Nader and the Democrats

[Claronium780]

I don't get why so many people seem to be in such DEFENSE of the big corporations (especially in America) if 75 % of think corporations have too much power?

[donotfret]

Awesome

[DontFlatterUrselfSon]

The AmeriKKKan people fail to understand, that there is a long evil snake with a live "head" on it. Once U cut the head off that snake, then it rest of it can't operate properly. Hope U all get my drift N stop the riff raff. WAKE-UP b4 its 2 late.

[churchmn]

"The imperialist Gore also had AMerican soldiers enforcing "no flyzones" in iraq, treading on their national soveriengty. Again for reasons that have nothing to do with America's safety. ITs all about INTERVENTION and IMperial ambitions."

Again, check the videos on my channel, particularly about Iraq, Pakistan, and Iran for the real story. What you just said above had nothing to do with imperialism, though that is a separate agenda. We went into both countries for oil. PERIOD.

[AINTMYAMERICA]

BY the way it was clinton/gore who voted to sanction the Iraq people during the 90's that resulted in 500,000 deaths due to starvation. However Saddaam Hussein didnt miss one meal. The imperialist Gore also had AMerican soldiers enforcing "no flyzones" in iraq, treading on their national soveriengty. Again for reasons that have nothing to do with America's safety. ITs all about INTERVENTION and IMperial ambitions. in 1776 we signed the DEclaration of INDEPENDENCE NOt "inter-dependence"

[AINTMYAMERICA]

My thing is why should AMericans have to put up with the "lesser of two evils", or rather "the evil of two lessers? Ive been told over and ovr how this is the greatest democracy the world has ever seen. WHich is laughable in the face of this corrupt one-party system in D.C. If this was a real democracy would washington d.c. actually reflect the diversity of viewpoints in this country. Asking us to choose between dem and republican is offensive. They are IMPERIALIST puppets for puppetmasters

[tomanyasses]

democrate would of won had they got nader on there side butt they wanted to much to be like the rebublicans and not change just like obama doing now ,he's no change hes going to bring the same crap.

[tomanyasses]

save america and real americans vote mccain

[poop121]

haha

[buzzadler]

this "real news network" is not really real news. it DOES provide a different viewpoint than the mainstream, and thats a GOOD THING, but as someone who is studying politics 12 hours a day, i can see very clearly that this network also has its own distorted dare i say slightly "ignorant" agenda

[churchmn]

Sorry, folks. I just can't take a chance like that again. Ron Paul would be my favorite, but even though I'm not happy with Obama, I WANT MY VOTE TO COUNT AGAINST McCAIN. You can say what you like, but we already took a chance on Nader in 2000, and we ALL lost out.

[AINTMYAMERICA]

WHy dont you "republicans" and "democrats" see that voting for one IS VOTING FOR THE OTHER! lol! SO youll vote for obama? That is voting for Mccain! VOte for who you want. Thats what FREEDOM is! Obama=mccain 1.Open borders 2.Patriot act 3.FISA bill/government spying 4.Imperialism/Military-industr­ial complex 5.Nafta and sendin jobs overseas 6.Corporate cheerleaders 7.Unconstitutional federal reserve. 8. Funding iraq war. 9. $700 billion of taxpayer money to wall street

[churchmn]

In 2000 Nader's 3% of the vote put Bush in office. Back then the slogan should have been:

NADER = BUSH

The main issue is to make your vote count for something; otherwise, why bother voting. I'm not going to waste my vote again. If voting AGAINST the person you DON'T want is your only realistic option, DEAL WITH IT!

[AINTMYAMERICA]

IN 2000 AL gore won the most votes! lol! This "free and democratic" country is the only country in the world where you an get the most votes and still lose! Got that? It wasnt naders fault. But who cares anyway? AL gore is the Same as Bush! lol! You claim to be voting against Mccain? How? Barack Obama is going to do the SaME thing as MCcain! lol! HOw are you voting against Mccain by voting for someone who is going to do the same thing? An obama presidency IS A MCCAIN presidency.

[churchmn]

"This 'free and democratic' country is the only country in the world where you an get the most votes and still lose! It wasn't Nader's fault. But who cares anyway? AL gore is the Same as Bush! lol!"

You say "lol" quite a bit. If your comment is true, what on earth are you laughing about? YOU JUST ADMITTED YOUR VOTE DOESN'T MATTER! So why bother with Nader?

NOTE: There IS a difference between Neolibs and Neocons. Even though they have similar goals, they try to achieve them differently.

[churchmn]

By the way, do you think Al Gore would have us in Afghanistan and Iraq right now? There's NO WAY that would have happened the way it did. While I don't like either party, this world would have been way different right now if Nader had stayed out of politics in 2000.

[AINTMYAMERICA]

YEs AL gore would of Invaded Iraq just as he and clinton sent troops to somalia, haiti, kosovo, bosnia and slaughtered thousands for no reason other than IMPERIALISM and the NEW WORLD ORDER agenda. what did somalia have to do with AMerica? NOthing! BUt 18 americans fell dead. Far away from home. AL gore,Obama, Bush, and mccain care not about the CONSTITUTION. THey care about GLOBALISM and MILITARISM. Are you an AMerican or A Globalist war-monger? That is the question.

[churchmn]

Even though Gore and Clinton were both groomed by the Bilderberg society, neither was a member of (or had connections to) the PNAC, which was the REAL source of both wars. Both parties have their own agenda and imperialistic goals, but they do not have the same backing. Also, many members of the PNAC have dual Israeli citizenship, and they weren't partial to Gore or Clinton. I have to get back to work, but check out the vids on my channel if you want to know what both wars are REALLY about.

[AINTMYAMERICA]

So you would rather take a vote from someone like nader or baldwin and give to obama? Keep in mind every voe for Mcbama is a vote AGAINST ralp nader or Chuck baldwin. YOu calim to be voting agisnt Mccain but you are really voting aginst Nader! It is people like you who distort the true meaning of democracy. If i thought my grandmother was the best candidate shed giet my vote. Its my vote and I vote for whom I want. NOT VOTING is a vote!I would rather NOT vote than give an extra vote to mcbama

[churchmn]

You're a little mixed up! No one's taking a vote FROM your precious candidate because no one's taking him seriously after the last time he ran! NADER ISN'T A REAL CANDIDATE. If I wanted to waste my vote, it'd vote for RON PAUL, not Nader.

[Lansky54]

If you're not going to play ball with the owners of America, then you're NOT going to get elected to anything more than the local school board.

[sonicspy79]

"Equal opportunity Corruption!" beautiful. Why can't Ralph Nader be our president? He's the only candidate looking out for the people, The republicans and democrats let this disaster happen and took bribes (their campaign contributions) now who will they represent? Nader doesn't take money from corporate criminals! I love Ralph Nader, I wish he could get his hands into this mess we might not be looking forward to a bread line and hyper inflation.

[greyhoundfriend123]

I really respect Ralph Nader. He worked all his life in the public's interest. Yet the masses never cared or listened. I imagine he will spend the rest of his life trying to educate the people.

[billybbob18]

Turn off your TVs NOW

[daloamta]

holy shit ..... yea agreed ..... this is gona sound stupid but is nader still running for office ????? im old enough to vote but when i try to see who is still running i get nothing but obama and mccain........... so if someone could just let me kno if nader is running for the 08 elections i kno who im voting for ................

[whippoorwillss]

Nader is running for this 08 election. he is on the ballet in 45 states and is a write in canadate in the other 5 states. google him at votenader(dot)org

[billybbob18]

That is the same mentality that keeps the rich cocksuckers in power.

The false dichotomy of the left/right mentality

perpetuated by the media.

[dylanofwomen]

too much logic, too much truth.. must turn on FOXNEWS...

[Lucem2]

As always, Nader makes lots of sense.

To much logic to resonate with the ignorant and complacent populace.

[FartheadOgre]

I'll vote for Nader simply because he has the strongest chanting name. Let's compare...

O-ba-ma! O-ba-ma! (hmm, not very strong. Ends on a gasping ahhh.)

Mc-Kin-ney! Mc-kin-ney! (a little better, but still not very powerful)

Mc-Cain! Mc-Cain! (defnitely not, chanting this is like making yourself puke)

Na-der! Na-der! (oohh, yes! This is the one! Feel that? Oh so powerful!!!)

[xtcpa]

Clear common sense as usual from our GREATEST AMERICAN. AND THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF OUR UNITED STATES...

Perseverance for all to see. What a glorious example of logic and courage.

[dstorey36532]

Vote Nader/Gozalez!!

[trakkaton]

USans agree with what Nader is saying. That's why 99% do not vote him. USans are stupid.

[ble86n]

Go Ralph!

[bareda8]

I believe that nothing is as the way it seems in America but MTV.

[federali84]

preferential/instant run-off voting and proportional representation is the only way to create viable third parties.

[fgrod]

Why doesn't this guy try to become a Sr. democratic advisor instead of coming out every 4 years to score some more donations for his hopeless campaign. Is he just an election whore or what? Why not go for Congressman somewhere that's progressive. I love what he says.

[SKClouD]

Why don't simply change the american political system so that the people don't have to vote for the same 2 parties in the next 150 years. Ofcourse you can vote for other people but as you see it doesn't make a lot of sense in that system right now.

[trakkaton]

The elite ain't gonna change the elite.

They are their own favorite team, believe me.

[natem20]

to be the best you must learrrrnn the best

"No one can stop an idea when the time has come" victor hugo

[georgezimmer]

Watch this one, it's NOT A CONSPIRACY VIDEO. Indisputable evidence of corporate control.

watch?v=8wH9trnrbKM

[fknugly222]

I'm not blaming Nader for warcrimes I'm blaming him for splitting the left vote. Well, look what happened when you voted for the candidate you believed in,...we got the one that destroyed america. YaY Nader!

[BuelahMan]

I can't believe some ppl are this goddamned stupid.

[mcbowler]

We are screwed. Anyways, gotta start somewhere so I suggest we start with the federal reserve. Watch "the money masters" so you will get my point.

[overmind25]

The only way to have freedom is to crush all states and destroy coporations that try to rule over others with violence instead of selling products in my opinion.

[overmind25]

Plus having an intelligent public that has a understanding of indiviual rights/liberities and a sense to help their fellow human and fellow creature.

[overmind25]

*an understanding

[xawesomexelix]

"democracy is voting for the candidate you believe in, not the one you fear the least"

that is the smartest thing i've read here on youtube about voting democratically... too bad we're not really a true democracy, but rather the illusion of it.

[oz22verizon]

vote nader!!

[marissacalderon]

America is so FUCKED. Woman wanted to vote Hilary because she was a woman, now McCain's VP is Palin... A WOMAN! He picked her to appease the hurting Clinton voters. African Americans are voting Obama because he is African American. Doesn't anyone have a fucking BRAIN anymore?! Instead of voting for someone because of race or sex. Vote because of POLITICS, that is why they are running, to run our politics! I cannot stand the idiots of American anymore.

NADER08!

[rapesickal]

fucking right! hit the nail on the flat part.

[iKnowYouSeeThis]

every word... Go Nader.

[PassionOfGeist]

NADER 2008!

[szatmar666]

Well said ella, Nader talking about pragmatism and progressivism is like listening to president bunny pants talk about foreign policy. "the tried out progressive duo"..LOL what a joke! they are neither progressive nor "tried". Nader could easily win a congressional race or even a senate seat or a governorship. If he was truly interested in improving the human condition through gov, which is what progressive means, he should 1st get his ass into an elected office so we can see what he's made of!

[burningice17]

Many of the things that we blame Bush for, we can also blame Obama considering his vote enabled the corrupt policies to take place. I think there are a lot of people that demand their candidate actually hold positive policy views.

Everyone that thinks spoiler needs to recognize that in the 8 years since the 2000 elections that neither the democrats nor the republicans have made any effort to enact instant runoff voting for presidential elections. Either way, I'm not wasting my vote on Obama.

[rell127]

Thats just show you how much he actually not serious i think he just a center of attention he seems that all he like

[MikeNobodyIsHere]

Nader for U.S. Attorney General!!!

[madashelldude]

hehe, US Attorney General?! Nader?! LOL, that's funny. How about FBI chief he's probably on their payroll already, why not just make it public ;)

the only thing Nader has done since he started running 4 pres is attack the dems credibility from the left, something the GOP would be desperate to get somebody do for them because it fractures their opposition. i wish all the Naderite lemmings would take 5 min and look up wiki for "progressivism" and Robert La Follette, the founding father of it.

[marissacalderon]

How are Democrats different from Republicans? Oh, they LIE better. The president is only as powerful as his congress and house. And the Democrats have been the majority of both since 2005. And what has changed? What has "progressed"? NOTHING! The Democrats have done the Republicans the favors and covered up their illegal activities with Patriot Act and FISA, which Obama voted for BOTH! So if you want to vote someone because of their "speeches" go ahead. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

[madashelldude]

u clearly need 2 dig a little deeper cause u have no clue about what's going on in politics. 1st, the dems have a slim majority in the house, not the senate, and that's since 2006. technically they have the majority in the senate 2 but w Liebermann and now Kennedy out they are the minority in votes. they have many bills that are filibustered by repugs like universal single payer healthcare HR 676. instead of whining and making stuff up you should vote 4 a real candidate so progress is made.

[marissacalderon]

Kucinich, who is a better man and Democrat than Obama, wrote the single payer health care HR, and Obama opposed it. Kucinich wrote the 36 articles of impeachment, and Obama opposed it. Obama's voting history is almost identical to McCains. opencongressDOTorg. That's what lost Kerry the election is 2004, because his voting record was identical to Bush's. Obama could have been a LEADER and voted against bills like Patriot Act and FISA, but he didn't. He isn't a leader, he is a republican FOLLOWER.

[madashelldude]

1. Kucinich endorsed Obama because he is a real progressive: he believes in improving people's lives through elected office and 4 that u first have to get elected. Nader is just a clown and a divider who never got elected to anything in his life.

2. HR 676 single payer is authored by John Conyers, not Kucinich.

3. Obama is in the SENATE, Kucinich is in the House!!! HR is a House Resolution, u dumbass!

[marissacalderon]

youtube . com/watch?v=7sI2_Ejz4D4

KUCINICH and Conyers. Kuciniched endorsed the Democratic party, he is a loyal Democrat, not a Democan like Obama. You can call Nader a clown because you have no argument. He has fought for more rights of Americans than Obama could dream of. Obama is a civil rights lawyer and he has voted for Patriot Act and FISA which takes away our civil rights, what a great resume. Obama is a corrupt politician.

[madashelldude]

No, Kucinich specifically endorsed Barack Obama, he clearly said his name. Also, that's right: he IS a loyal democrat! He is that for a very good reason, something that Nader supporters just can't get through their thick skull.

[marissacalderon]

Well, for your information, Howard Dean personally ASKED Nader to run as a Democrat and INVITED Nader to join the party. But Nader has more dignity than that. Let's see we've had Clinton, who gave us NAFTA and HMO's, which can be blamed for the situation today with jobs and health care systems. Then we have the Democrats that would rather be followers of the Republicans than an actual opposition. Sorry, but I am not voting the lesser of two evils. You will still get less and EVIL.

[Ve3tah417]

stop fucking lying i have him on film endorsing obambi

[Ve3tah417]

I am referring to the ufo party whore aka dennis

[sam0fisher666]

Ve3tah417: you need professional help, your brain is seriously f-d up.

[Ve3tah417]

right...

[FactoryAutomation]

And he never attacked the GOP's credibility.

Dumbass.

[MuslimGhost]

Since Ron Paul has dropped out I think I will be voting for Nader.

[AscendingGodlessness]

Do we have a choice?

[MuslimGhost]

Not really but its nice to pretend that we do

[BuelahMan]

Nader is a patriot and far more worthy of the office of the President than either Obama or McCain.

Americans must be the most gullible people on the face of the earth.

[rell127]

i wouldn't say that a true patriot would juge on skin color

[fknugly222]

Out of all the good Nader has done in the past, he will be remembered as the person who split the vote in both 2000 and 2004 to make way for america's worst president ever.

[BuelahMan]

Not by me.

It was that asshole, Bush (and the 46% of Americans) who foiled those elections.

There is a difference.

[fknugly222]

Not by you but by every other American that thinks all the bloodshed could have been avoided. I like Nader, I understand what kind of good he's done, but i'm not gonna kid myself and say he was'nt responsible for splitting the left vote. He's completely responsible.

[BuelahMan]

Every other American?

Really.

Last count was about 50,000,000 that voted for Bush. I guess those people had nothing to do with Bush's election? Right?

(shaking my head at ignorance)

[fknugly222]

You're acting like W. was elected. I don't see how you can safely say how many people voted for who considering Sen. Katherine Harris exempted over 50,000 eligible voters from the state of Florida alone, and to say Nader's votes could'nt have made an impact is idiocy. The votes obviously did'nt do Nader any good, it was selfish for him to put himself over the american people. I think your blind allegiance is ignorant "buelahman". I wont be responding to you again. Knock yourself kiddo.

[BuelahMan]

My point, you stupid dickhead, is that Nader had a small % of votes compared to Bush.

If you are going to use the "election was stolen" game, then how can you, in a sound mind, still blame Nader.

Now, please don't respond to me any longer, like you promise. You are too fucking stupid for me to bother with any more.

[ThirdEyeTattoo]

It's not difficult for me to understand, whether or not W. stole the elections he would'nt have been able to if Gore had Naders votes. Makes sense to me.

BM, you make this thread look uninformed. Try to keep up.

[BuelahMan]

OK, so the 50,000,000 votes George got doesn't matter?

Anyone who believes the myth is a fucking idiot. And it is an issue with your ignornace, not mine.

Someone who was "informed" would be forced to acknowledge that George Bush ran in the race and gathered DAMN near as many votes as Gore.

If the votes WERE manipulated to give W a win, it wouldn't matter how many Nader got.

Uninformed? Please.

At least acknowledge the information I just gave you. Otherwise, you look "uninformed".

duh.

[ThirdEyeTattoo]

I'll explain why you're a fkn idiot and i'll show my work. You're a 47 yr. old schmuck that is trolling this thread, arguing to your hearts content anyone who sais something you disagree with while calling them names. Noone can argue that Gore would'nt have won if he had Naders votes. It's that simple. Try to keep up.

[BuelahMan]

I am arguing (apparently with the most ignorant fucker I have encountered on YouTube) that the 50,(FUCKING)000,000 votes that the dumb fuck Bushies cast for Bush is what got him elected. It was not the miniscule amount of votes that Nader got that elected Bush.

Only the most stupid asshole Gore dick sucker could say as much as your dumb ass remark.

ThirdEyeTattoo intimates your desire for that third eye. They call the third eye the pee hole on a dick.

Very telling.

[fknugly222]

Are you still talking shit? Funny to hear an old fart like yourself call anyone stupid. Get a life,...ASS.

[fknugly222]

Let me leave you with what i thought was common knowledge. "Some Democrats blame third party candidate Ralph Nader for taking the election away from Gore. Nader received some 97,000 votes in Florida. According to the Washington Post, national exit polls showed that "47% of Nader voters would have gone for Gore if it had been a two-man race,and only 21% for Bush." Applied to Florida would've left Gore with 24,000 votes over Bush. The sad thing is excepting these 2 issues, I mostly agree w/you.

[thathitthespot]

taking the election away from? I thought voting was because it isn't finished, til we the People decide...

[PeaceCzar]

Hey Dipshit.

Try blaming the 7 (count em, SEVEN) other candidates on the Florida ballot in 2000 that "took" enough votes to tip the election to Bush.

Try blaming Buchanan for taking 3000+ plus votes for Gore in Palm Beach County (he admits 98% were for Gore)

Try blaming Gore and the Democrats for being pussies and not truly demanding a full, state-wide recount.

BLAME Bush and his cronies for stealing the damn thing.

But blame Nader? Please. Don't be such a petty, intellectual coward.

[ThirdEyeTattoo]

Hey retard. I can count,..try reading before you open your mouth, those votes pale in comparison to 24,000 votes that would have won Gore the election. I have just as much reason to be pissed at the american fks that voted for W. Blood is on their hands. But don't tell me Nader was'nt responsible for splitting the vote.

[PeaceCzar]

Classic cop-out approach.

Reductionary logic at its finest.

You're still operating with the assumption that Nader's votes BELONGED to Gore, which is elitist and pathetic.

Let's just quote Nader on this one...

HEY EVERYONE, LOOK AT THE POLITICAL BIGOT!!!

ThirdEyeTattoo is a political bigot!!!

And you know what, you are. Nader earned those votes, they belong to him.

There's only a "split vote" if you operate in political binary. And that's a pretty crude language.

[fknugly222]

I agree with what you're saying concerning political binary as bullshit. Nader's votes did indeed belong to him. With that same logic I don't see how anyone can deny that it was his votes that put W. in office.

If it came down to Nader not getting his votes vs. over 30,000 dead soldiers not to mention over half a million dead children in Iraq, guess which one i'd do without.

[whippoorwillss]

Gore didn't even win his home state of Tennessee. plus I don't think you would complain about Henry Ross Perot "spliting the votes" to lean a win for Bill Clinton...now would you. Eat your own words digest them and grow up to be less of a political bigot.

[sonicspy79]

Gore won by 500,000 popular votes and still Bush won, this is what is called Election Fraud. The Electoral College makes the call after the gerimandering of boundaries which decide which candidates will win. The point is these officials are not representing the views of their constituents. It has absolutely nothing to do with Ralph Nader, do you think if he had gotten more he would have won? 1/2 a million votes wasn't enough, what do you think? Bush had powerful friends who got him in.

[NaderRaider]

It's so sad to know that there are people that actually believe the Political Bigotry of the media. Ralph did not ruin the elections in 2000 & 2004. The democrats did a fine job of ruining it on thier own. Besides the fact that the democrats that some of the dems that committed fraud to ruin Ralph's run in several states by filing frivolous lawsuits have been indicted & are going to prison with sentences of as much as 300 years. Do a google search on "BonusGate" for more info.

[NatureLegalized]

Instead of trying to pick as close to the Real Deal, or as far from the danger, just

go Ahead and pick The Real Deal himself NADER!

please don't be sheeple anymore following wanktard wingjerk nutters

[ferrariModenas]

America run by big companies, president is a puppet he has no power, it is a delusion that you think you have a government, you don't.

[FrankCastlez]

president is a puppet he has no power

all the liberals have said that Bush had the power to take us to war...which is it!

[THENAk3DTRUTH]

Obama seems like a pretty good republican to me. If I wanted to vote republican I would just vote for McCain!

Nader the *spoiler* just stole my vote from the republicans! I will never vote for a democrat who talks and votes like a republican.

Don't waste your vote on a wanna be republican like Obama!

Vote for Ralph Nader!

[pmccarthy001]

I'm pleased to see you're interviewing Nader. I agree with most everything he wants to do. As you may have implied, however, if Nader is to be taken as a credible "complete" candidate, I think he has to address foreign policy issues. Perhaps you could also interview the Green Party candidate, Cynthia McKinney. There's also the Libertarian Party of America,... but, I think Fox News pretty much gets their message out, so...

[tattypatty]

Paul/Nader 08

[SolNinja]

although the man is right in so many ways,

he fails to understand that he stands No chance of national election and will only pull votes away from Obama (a far beter choice than mccain)

I voted for Ron Paul in the Primary, but if I do that in the National than the vote would go to mccain, so thus I am forced to support Obama

[BuelahMan]

You regurgitate the Dem talking points, well.

[efectomariposa93]

Yes, and isn't it much because of all the blatant lies you've been fed since 9/11?

But waking up isn't enough.

[mudylafeet]

Democratic National Corporation = Puke

GOP = Vomit

R Nader + R Paul? Never happen

[chopin65]

Nadar is exactly right.

[Patriot4Liberty1776]

Hell yeah -- Keep speaking it Nader more and more people are waking up