Death Penalty - The cost of execution versus life in prison

[Itazura960]

Why? Because our prisons are overcrowded. Sure lets make more prisons at the cost of billions and or let private prisons come up instead. If an inmate is 100% guilty like Ted Bundy was, limit his amount of appeals and sentence him to death already.

It is like this video guy completely disregarded that fact.

[artgeek12583]

Yes, I know this is an older video, but I happen to be doing research on the Death Penalty/Capital Punishment.

I am for it 100%, BUT I would would rather them be put on trial for the Death Penalty if they are to speed up the process. It honestly should not take 10-15 years to come up with a decision to this. Take Jeffrey Dahmer for example... People like him deserve to get the Death Penalty.

[leestauf]

To fools who claim it's better to free 100 guilty murderers than to wrongly convict one innocent person, it's a fact that someone who has gotten away with murder has a high chance of committing murder again. So if only 10% of those 100 guilty who are freed commit murder again, you then have 10 more innocent people murdered versus one "possibly" innocent one. Sounds like a high price to pay just so you can feel Superior.

[JohnCurtisFolkerts]

If it costs more to kill someone than to keep them alive for life in prison then that signifies a problem with the legal system.

[Southernsnowchik]

Speaking from what I've learned in my criminal sociology class here... Yeah, more expensive due to how many appeals a prisoner's allowed in certain states.That's why Texas has the most executions per year; prisoners are only allowed one appeal. To add, Americans love the death penalty because of the hype from the media. "Get seriously tough on crime w/ executions or no parole," etc. And If politics and money had no hand in corrections, I'm 100% positive that our viewpoints would change. Sad, eh?

[rouellette1111]

we send people to jail because they did something wrong, so their time in jail is their consequesce aka punishment. That is how we teach our children between what is right and what is wrong. Therefore, a murderer is put to jail because he took another life, his punishment is life in prison, if we just kill him, does he learn a lesson, what are we teaching our kids? Is it morally right just because he took a human life, does it mean we can? thought question

[leestauf]

It is much cheaper to execute a murderer ( a 20 cent bullet) than to feed and house them for life. It does cost much more tho to let sick, demented bleeding heart liberals and their lawyers drag things out legally with endless appeals. I am always amazed that there are idiots out there that have so much compassion for true monsters versus the innocent victims they have destroyed.

[ShroomFuu86]

@leestauf they are lawyers, they have only compassion for their own greed.

[Southernsnowchik]

@leestauf, It's actually not cheaper to execute them. It's a DP trial, and will eventually rack up about $2.3 million to get through to an execution. Keeping them in prison for 40 years or so in a max security prison would be three times as less. Keep in mind that financial stats differ from state to state.

[leestauf]

@Southernsnowchik Did you even read my post? Give them one appeal within a year, and they had better make it a good one. Then, a 20 cent bullet will be the alternative to housing, feeding, educating them and providing a life time of endless appeals in expensive attempts to be freed on idiotic technicalities. These creatures are cancers on the human body, infecting others by their very existence. Tell me, what do you do with cancer cells?

[Southernsnowchik]

@leestauf I did. Doesn't matter because there's only one or two states that now offer death by firing squad. Most now see lethal injection as being more of a humane way of killing, and firing squad pretty barbaric and passe. Plus, some CO's don't want to do it, even if it is part of a collective punishment process. Just stating the facts here... To answer you on cancer, prisoners get free medical treatment on anything, such as chemo. If not, it's seen as cruel and unusual punishment. :\

[leestauf]

@Southernsnowchik You completely missed the point. The violent murderers are the cancer cells. What do you do with cancer cells? Pull them from your diseased lung and put them in your toe hoping they'll get better while giving them additional time to destroy more healthy cells? Or, do you destroy them before they can infect more healthy cells?

[Pllye]

@leestauf Agreed to the last word.

[92RedRevolver]

@leestauf I hope you are amazed at the pain and suffering such actions would cause to the family and friends of those who've suffered grave miscarriages of justice which cost them their life.

[leestauf]

@92RedRevolver How about the pain and suffering of the victims? To fools who claim it's better to free 100 guilty murderers than to wrongly convict one innocent person, it's a fact that someone who has gotten away with murder has a high chance of committing murder again. So if only 10% of those 100 guilty who are freed commit murder again, you then have 10 more innocent people murdered versus one "possibly" innocent one. Sounds like a high price to pay just so you can feel Superior.

[92RedRevolver]

@leestauf Um...stop making up statistics in your head. Hypothetical situations played off real situations is incredulously bad form.

Anyway, they're not being freed. They're being punished in a way that's not a result of barbaric, caveman ways of thinking. And lol @ 'just so you can feel superior. Your holier-than-thou attitude is pretty shocking. You do not know so much you can guess other people's actions before they've been committed. Reasonable doubt isn't enough.

[theporksicle]

There was some man on TV, I think he was in Tennessee although it could have been Alabama (don't think it was Texas as they didn't have LWOP until recently), and he killed his mother over a petty argument over a girlfriend of his and received a life sentence (with parole in presumably 25 or 30 years), killed someone else in jail and get life without parole and it was only when he killed another person that get got the death penalty.

It cost 3 people their life- should have only cost 1.

[tothemax01]

It's very simple: monsters should be killed. The left does not agree with this, they automatically prefer the relativist stance of 'killing a killer still makes you a killer', and thus it is immoral. This is favoured of course, because it allows a superior level of social degeneration, by nullifying or reversing concepts like 'guilt', 'responsibility' and 'justice'. The error is easily fixed - A: killing a killer is moral killing, B: killing a non-killer is immoral (and punishable by A).

[shobizz03]

i think some americans like the death penalty because they feel its a equal deed the prisoner would have to pay for the crime he committed if you ask me its wrong simply because to wrongs does'nt make a right if you are a child of god and you truly believe that the god you follow is a forgiving god then you should be forgiving to who are we as people to murder a murderer that makes us murderers to

[warchild1488]

@shobizz03

So they shouldn't even go to jail in the first place then. They should just be forgiven outright? I'd vote for anyone running on that ticket.

[Joseph565112]

Why would it be a deterrent? Both the DP and LWOP are simply the end of line for sadistic killer....either way they die in prison.

Cost? Look at what the U.S. tax payer foots the bill for, how many billions are given to Israel and spent in the mid-east alone? The amount cited is really miniscule given the application.

There does need to be a reform in both the imposition of the DP, as well as the following appeals process, no doubt about that.

[phsydekick]

Its a punishment and a deterent. There are people who will not mind having a roof over their head, square meals, etc, etc so its not much of a deterent to them, but its a punishment that rids the world of a killer, but if it is a deterent, especially if garuanteed death penalty, then I am all for it. Its not about cost, its about protecting the people like MamaPojo pointed out. Almost no measure is inhumane if it protects the freedoms of the people.

[amberthebutterfly]

Americans probably think the death penalty is cheaper than forcing criminals to live in prison for life. Also, some criminals are really really horrible, so some people might think they deserve to die.

[doscastlevaniafreak]

I agree 100% with MamaPojo. Personally, I think it should be 3 or more. I "like" the death penalty because some people don't care about human life, and they just go around killing. It (the penalty) strikes fear into at least some of them, and curbs them from their desire to kill. Also it keeps them from escaping.

[jeremyvill]

Some people just plain deserve the death penalty. there're so many people out there (like the ones who got a family member killed by someone) who wanna take there anger out and just plain want them dead....prison isnt enough for them.

[loganflogan]

Americans like the death penalty because it remains hella fuckin' balls-to-the-wall awesome.

[mythistocles]

The death penalty is "totally badass."

[MamaPojo]

if someone is convicted once for more than 3 murders: Kill them. If they are found guilty 3 times for rape or murder: Kill them. I am tired of people saying someone is too crazy to understand why they are being killed.. ut's not about them understanding it, IT'S ABOUT STOPPING PEOPLE WHO ARE KILLING PEOPLE. It is NOT inhumane to protect the lives of others when someone continually proves they do not have any reservations for the value of human life.

[kefer123622]

Roast em and lay em down in an unmarked grave.

[unionplumberscrack]

We need to streamline the DP appeals process, take those funds and finance an independent, objective, third party agency with the sole purpose of proving guilt or innocence through DNA, forensics, ect. Their should also be an inpartial, third party DP "Board" if you will to again review the trial, evidence, ect. to take a case by case review of every capital case. If after all that conviction still stands... thirty days for the offender to get his affairs in order.

[ggcpres]

and 70% of facts and figures are totally made up

[ShadowStrikerNlNJA]

Cuz it's quote "hella fukin balls to the walls awesome"

[MsDreamer22]

this is why our economy cant thrive becuase of these extreme legal fees... kill them for 10cents and pat 1.1 million to his lawyer ... get a law student or someone fresh from law school theyll gladly take the job for whatever youoffer. i dont want to pay to keep a murderer alive.

[Malachiore]

So basicly the only reason why it is more expensive is because the law can't make up their minds? Why spend like 10 years to get to the point where you could have gotten in a month or so?

[Alxscode]

Kill em all.

[ranman92509]

I don't believe this guy! As with most idiots, he is manipulating the numbers to fit his opinion. Who the hell are you to criticize America. Enjoy your Communist countries, keep your opinions to yourselves and if you're in this country and saying that crap... get the hell out; you dont deserve the freedoms others have fought for.

[kngru]

What about the freedom of speech? Your "keep your opinions to yourselves" fits best for dictatory countries. It does not for "the land of the free..."

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. " -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall

[ranman92509]

Dont you think i have the wright to be offended when people bash my country? And that i would like it to stop? Nice try trying to put me in "my place" by quoting free speech. I used my free speech to levae a comment that offended you, just like the people here have offended me. Will you atleast agree that it costs tens of millions of dollars to build each new pison to house the extra people as they arrive, i think he forgot about that.

[kngru]

I was not offended in anyway. I just disagree when people say nobody has the right to criticise something or say their opinions.

[ranman92509]

Ok, thats fine. Sometimes i get worked up to quickly about things and i loose my cool. I just get a little bit angry when i feel that free speech isnt shared equally for every body in this great nation. I do have a bit of an anger problem and i get hot headed almost instintly and for that i appologize. I havnt figured out how to install spellcheck on everything so if i misspell please forgive me.

[ranman92509]

No comment back? Its funny you should throw free speech in my face. Where was Don Imus's freedom of speech. Where was Sinefelds freedom of speach? It seems people on your side of the isle only stand up for free speech when it benifits you, when you want to be offensive, but when i say something that you dont like you try to shut me down.

[someman7]

freedom to kill a murderer because it's too expensive to provide him with basic human rights. yeah, that's what your "founding fathers" fought for. i'm going to stay in my country (not communist btw), since i have no interest of forfiting my freedoms as well as my nation at your borders. however, it's still you who is saying crap.

[Largo64]

Some Americans want the death penalty because it gives them what they like to call a sense of justice being done. I'm more inclined to believe that they have a sense of revenge.

[awalkinggod]

To answer your question, it is because they're stupid.

I'm very much against the death penalty. There are an abundance of great arguments against the death penalty, but this isn't one of them. This is a much better economic argument against how inefficient government spending is. Also it is an argument about how screwed up our so-called "correctional system" is.

[shellcracker7]

We like the death penalty because dead criminals usually do not commit additional crimes. The exorbitant cost of lawyers is a serious problem that affects our entire legal system. It is an incredibly wasteful system designed by lawyers to enrich lawyers at the expense of taxpayers and people seeking justice. And most politician/lawyers seem to be unmotivated to fix that problem. Judge Isaac Parker would not have spent 3 million dollars on someone like Brian Nichols.

[CopyRezo36]

Bah, utter nonsense. If the system is abhorently expensive, so much that it makes the death penalty a burden, then that is the problem in itself. Why DOESNT it just take 10c to kill a convict the court has already determined is an unwanted person? I've heard enough "Society made me do it" stories.

[TheNameOfThings]

Copy because we make MISTAKES! That's what appellate courts are for. Where were you during 5th grade social studies?

[twizelby]

americans like the death penalty because EVERYONE wants to see people get whats coming to them. almost no one thinks about the cyclical system of poverty it causes and denounces any plans of prisoner reformation. we have a revolving door policy for prison that only trains better criminals because we are selfish and think to often in the present rather then for future generations

[flipflopae]

I think its because people are so far removed from the actual process of it that they don't really think about it. They think death is a fair way to punish somebody who took another life. You made a very good point in one of your other videos by saying that the executioner becomes a murderer. That means that every execution actually creates another murderer and essentially keeps their number the same.

[Janilenae2007]

well there have been execution performed by mechanical firing squads so you could b an accomplise but u could plee bargain im sure lol

[Jkun]

Because they are "mostly" stupid enough to just want it for kicks, and setting that aside, they are pretty much extremists if you look at it from a non american point of view (please note, I am not directing this to EVERY american, so unless you actually read this and still have something good to say, stay quiet)

Take the fact that you could get a friggin shotgun FOR FREE, when opening a new bank account...I mean like...what...the ..... FUCK..

~Jkun~

[donletidiotruinurday]

can u cite your sources???