"The Vikings" F 104G Starfighter German Navy's Demo Team

[1torock]

It would be an honor to crash in such a plane...

[sifumauriziomantis]

...y love 104

[dieselscience]

Great post but to TRULY appreciate the F-104 you have to see and HEAR it in person. There is something visceral about the roar of that 'missile with a man in it.'

[MrRammsteinKicksAss]

to end the Viking discussion: One of the most important Viking settlements was found in northern Germany where today is Schleswig. This town was called Haithabu. Google it if you don't trust me

[aysat]

1:05 holy shit!!!!!

[canals22]

...coolest aircraft ever...

[dtan359]

this F104G was not an aircraft, this was a rocket which has been told to behave like an aircraft, so difficult to bridle like a wild mustang, great bravo to the pilots who had this ability to fly this real "starfighter".

[Armafly]

Nice video. Thanks.

[corrodesthefilm]

Back when you could get close to the action. I understand the safety implications but they just fly too far out nowadays.

[zimmermann10]

Responder a este vídeo... BY FAR THE BEST AEROBATIC JET TEAM OF THE WORLD!

[60sFrank]

Waaaw, this is a really great video!!!

I 've only seen Belgian Zippers flying when I was young. She is the most beautifull aircraft the Belgian Airforce ever had.

Does anyone know about a video of the Belgian Aerobatic team "The Slivers"? I would really love to see them flying.

Thanks for posting this great video!

[Enricomomb]

Grande Sandro!!!!!

[DerMessermann]

awesome display.

[grazyarnie]

Once I had a smalltalk with Axel Ostermann, one of the Viking Pilots of the German Navy. He assured me, that the pilots loved the Starfighter, the only thing which mad him upset was the "pilots-error" phrase at the end of some of the accident reports.

[lordofbore]

Great vid thanks for posting!!!

[slivers49]

Dear Buddy Beeck

first of all congratulations for your career and I feel very honored to have received

your involvement and your info to my videos of the Vikings.

I had already noticed the mistake, but unfortunately, remedy, should I remove and fix the video, but lose 70,000 visions ... patience.

Many greetings and yet my compliments for having flown with the Starfighter ... my love!

Alessandro Zucchelli alias Slivers49

[wbeeck]

Hi everybody,

the titel of this film clip is wrong! Its not the Demonstration Team of the German Air Force, its the German Navy flying here !!! And the Pilots belong to my former Squadron. See the web under buddybeeck.de and my films here on YouTube, (search for: wbeeck) showing me during my pilot trainig in the USA on the T-37, T-38 and the F-104G. FLY NAVY greetings, Buddy Beeck, ex. 1./MFG2

[tubernation1]

NO disrespect to these pilots, and the F-104 is probably my favorite cold-war plane, NOTHING sounds like an F-104. But you have to admit, it's a little funny that an airshow of F-104's consists of high and low speed flyby's. At least as shown in this video. (Mostly really high speed!) Because that's what they were made to do, fly fast. With those tiny wings, the turning circle must have been huge! Great to find this video. Thanks!

[zimmermann10]

Esses pilotos brasileiros são incríveis! O AMX até que não se saiu mal!

[faltwolf]

Die sind beim mfg 2 oft so tief geflogen das ir die köpfe einzogen und unseren muni bulli festhalten mußten

[AtopaMesa]

scenic area

[dugystube]

Nice Routine.

[jonnibiscuit]

Fake as a three dollar bill.

[Peerndio]

Great stuff! Thanks for posting!

[jobotronic]

imho the saab draken was not only the technical better airplane, it also looked way better... i love the wing-integrated inlets... very smart design. the f 104 looks all right from the side but from other angles i find it somehow cartoony / funny.

[Pikschwarz]

@jobotronic tja, ist halt Geschmackssache. Ich find die Saab Draken nicht schön, sieht absolut plumb aus irgendwie!

[DelNegro10]

ein möder von pilots!

[RainerBrueck]

Egal, wie die Kommentare lauten: Die 104 war das schönste Flugzeug, das die Luftwaffe je hatte...

[Prof1989]

@RainerBrueck Da kann ich dir nur zustimmen, schön ist sie. Aber leider zu gefährlich für die, die sie fliegen.

[Melchersson]

@Prof1989 "The Vikings"? I have never heard of German vikings!

[WingmanAlpha]

One word: Kawoooooooooosch!

[pathyskeeter]

Incredible routine!!! 

[wiesenbefeuchter]

Say it in English!

[lassecfc]

The Vikings?????????? 

[Fritztoons]

@lassecfc

Yes, the Vikings. had been a German Navy display team.

[lassecfc]

@Fritztoons funny to call a german team "Vikings" 

[Fritztoons]

@lassecfc

Well, im born north of the river Elbe and that had been Viking area as well. Marineflieger airfields are in the middle of the ancient Viking areas. That is not only a privelige of the modern Danish state. we should understand this as a partly shared history within the ancient borderlines.

[AmdiT]

@Fritztoons And we are proud to have you german as allies! But yes it is true....many Marinefliegers airfields are actually on former Viking/danish soil in Germany. Slesvig -Holstein in Northern Germany was e.g actually Danish until the war in 1864. Greeting aus Dänemark.

[Pikschwarz]

@lassecfc In northern Germany began the Viking territorium

[lassecfc]

@Pikschwarz not true !!!!!!!!!

[lassecfc]

@Pikschwarz Saxons was german people. not real vikings

[nolifemerc]

@uluuluululu did the f104 ever land on carrier

[AeonVoom]

@nolifemerc you're american right? you think navy+aviation=carrier landings? WRONG - the german navy's fighter wings been coastal defense and ASW.

[mrjugger]

@uluuluululu totally wrong . its an interceptor, designed for speed and high rate of climb. it has no dog fight capability ..it was just design to get upstairs as quickly as possible and deliver anti aircraft missiles at USSR nuclear bombers ..its short wing give less drag but not much turning stability, and the massive jet engine gives the thrust (not a rocket motor)...

[Tahititoutou]

@uluuluululu Yes : il was actually (and appropriately) nickmaned "The missile with a man in it". A remarkable achievement in aerodynamics for its time! A strong contribution to the reputation of Kelly Johnson and the Skunk Works!

[ericn69]

really a plane for big boys, and other big balls pilot, who dare to fly low with such a high wing loading plane!!!

[Badger071]

The starfighter always looked best in german markings. Damned its sexy! It got an unjustified status as a widow maker in Luftwaffe. Over 200 lost, but Germany had in all 916 starfighters. By comparision Denmark had 56 and we lost 13! You do the math! Greetings aus Dänemark

[DevSolar]

@Badger071 The F104 was a good interceptor. But the F104G was a lousy compromise, pressing an interceptor into roles it was never designed for (even doubling as a fighter-bomber). This also made pilots push the F104G into *maneuvers* it was never designed for - resulting in high-speed stalls and other nasty stuff. The F104G WAS a widow maker. Albeit a sexy-looking one.

[Badger071]

@DevSolar I agree. My point was, that it was not only a problem(Widowmaker) in Luftwaffe, but a problem for many countries operating the 104 incl. Denmark. Unfortunately there was a lot of politics involved. The swedish draken (which we had in Denmark together with the 104) or french Mirage might have been a better choice, but the US had the money and good deals .

[Feuerschaf]

The Starfighter was a good plane for low level flying due to it's small wing area. It's no coincidence that the Starfighter holds the speed record at low level.

[Idratherbeflying89]

That was awesome. I especially like the opposing high speed pass into the vertical.

[pdutube]

I love the Starfighter and the Germans flew them right on the edge! The surrounding terrain is beautiful. It would make a great back drop for some air to air footage.

[Yaghnam]

Awesome display by the sexiest aircraft ever built.

[essai75]

How this plane can fly?

In the 60's the mirage iii would be the better choise for german air force but this widowsmaker was chosen for political reasons.

[ghm389]

That would have been cool to see, can't do that anymore...Shitty

[A666Wiesel]

The probaply best German pilots of our Navy Fighter Wings are critized by a youtube user. I love it.

[mpoukoma]

classic F-104. landing too fast. Most of the accidents happened during landing

[abwo47]

I do remember The Vikings very well from airshows in Holland in the 80's. Their 'up and under' was spectacular.

[justforever96]

I wish they had their wingtip tanks on. I think the Starfighter looks best that way. In fact, it almost looks funny without it!

[paceflight]

@justforever96 Hah, every fighter pilots dream is to punch off those tanks and start pulling hard! Awesome Video, thanks!

[justforever96]

@paceflight Well, the tip-tanks aren't the same as drop tanks...they can't be dropped in flight, and supposedly they don't affect performance noticeably. I just think the F-104 looks...odd without them. When you put tanks on the wings, it looks even more like some Buck-Rogers spaceship. A pair of Sidewiders looks okay on the wingtips too, but I like the tanks better. It looks naked with nothing on the tips. And they discovered that the tanks actually helped it's stall characteristics a bit.

[83rrsou]

@justforever96 My dad was a Zipper IP for 6 years and he absolutely loved that A/C! This coming from a fellow who racked up a bazillion hours in the F-86. For me it was a real privilege to see & hear the F-104 during my teenage years.

[justforever96]

Holy shit! That was awesome! Those are some ballsy fucking pilots! But watch at like exactly 1:38 (but start before, it's a landing run, with on jet landing and one flying slowly above. Watch at 1:37 and after, I swear the flying plane drops like ten feet suddenly, like he almost stalled it. Maybe it's just hte camera, but it looks like that to me! Anyway, cool video.

[cyberarmy007]

Das Schauflug-Team "Vikings" der Bundeswehr-Marineflieger hatte seinen letzten Auftritt mit Starfightern 1986 beim Flugtag des JG 74 in Neuburg a. d. Donau.

[HawgRyder1]

F-104s were the "widow makers" and these guys were incredibly insane flying like that!

[justforever96]

@HawgRyder1 The F-104 was only a "widowmaker" when you tried flying it slowly...i.e. during landing! As long as you were in the air and kept your speed up (not a problem with an F-104!) it flew pretty nicely, although it had a turning radius a little bit bigger than Texas. As long as you don't fly into the ground, you're okay. Too bad flying low-level nuclear strike practice missions over Germany involves poor visibility, high speed and low altitude...dangerous in any plane, not just the F-104

[jurgenmanfred]

this is sweet...i remember as a kid watching 104s buzzing my house....i was 11 years old at that time...and now 55

[Scheltokeeper]

Nicht nur in den 60ern :-) Für mich persönlich der schönste Kampfjet überhaupt. Bis heute. Sound und Optik sind einfach legendär, auch wenn die Kiste eigentlich nicht so der Hit war (Waffenzuladung, Reichweite, Allwettertauglichkeit).

[7kamenz3]

Der schönste Kampf Jet in den 60ern.

Erinnere mich noch gut an die hässlichen Kommentare in unseren ostdeutschen Zeitungen und die Häme bei jedem umgekommenen Piloten.

Das Video, eine Grußerweisung für jeden von ihnen.

[mostrogolf22]

We had them in the Puerto Rico Air National Guard. F104B and C models returning from Viet Nam. My Favorite Aircraft. The Germans did a very good job keeping it alive for so long, so did the Italian Stormo, the Spanish, Thiland, Japan, Greece, Pakistan, Canada, Belgium. It was a well loved Jet. J79's ROCK!!!

[joeroma80]

che spettacolo!

era proprio un bellissimo aereoplano

[44SirLoopalot]

Still one of the most impressive planes in history.

The rocket with a man in it!!!

[DerMessermann]

very  nice high speed performance with original sound. great!

[phonix032]

man i love that roar !!!!

[grallaceandvomit]

einfach nur geil!

von the vikings nie was gehört!

hat irgend einer angaben oder nen link zu dem thema?

[Nolene73]

Die Dinger flogen früher ständig bei uns. Durch ihr ohrenbetäubende Geheul unverwechselbar. Die weckten gerne meine kleinen Brüder im Mittagsschlaf auf. :-)

[49diver]

Die Kutscher hatten ihren Spaß und wir armen Flightschweine konnten die Mühlen wieder klarkeulen. Trotzdem habe ich die Kisten geliebt. Besonders den Sound ( Wolfsgeheul ). Kernige Aufnahmen. Vielen Dank.

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[wolfgangbosch]

war 3 jahre waffenmechaniker an der maschine.bin froh das ich diese aufnahmen gefunden habe.

[HeidiLandRover]

Absolutely brilliant! I remember The Vikings from airshows in the eighties - definitely the highlight of the day. It's nice to see footage of them WITHOUT cheesy music too.

[cerviniaman]

Superb!

[1313kl1313]

seen it yesterday! lets chat

lovin this video!! leave me a comment Yw

[Scheltokeeper]

Was für eine Höllenmaschine!

Einer meiner Lieblingsjets. Jedoch schlecht im Luftkampf. Pakistanische F-104 hatten keine Chance gegen indische Mig-21.

[ecrids]

tief und zügig,sehr schön

[ianrkav]

The German Airforce lost a lot of these aircraft in accidents when other operators didn't! Anyone know why?

[wegfdfhz]

Other operators did lose planes and pilots-the Spanish Air Force was i believe, the only operator that didn't suffer any losses. The West German Air Force was the principle user of this aircraft initially, so they would be likely to lose more. However, the WG Marines (The Vikings Display Team) didn't experience the same misfortune, possibly because teething troubles with the aircraft had been ironed out, operating perameters and maintenance proceedures had been better organised.

[DerMessermann]

The germans modificated the f-104. After that modification they called them GF-104. There were many reasons for all the crashes. Many modifications, wrong ejection seats, not originally devices, too much weight etc etc ...

[ianrkav]

ok thanks for that.

[germansascha]

@ianrkav i think its because they've tried to turn it into a fighterbomber... or something it just wasn't build for.

[ianrkav]

@germansascha Yes. It was originally an interceptor but the conditions changed and its role was adapted as a strike aircraft. Laden with bombs and flying at low level wasn't its primary design and many crashed, mainly on landing!

[Mustang1204]

What a rocket...fast as hell.

[vanass01]

MFG2 for ever :)

[glueckspils1]

The Title of the video is incorrect of course, as the vikings were the display team of the GERMAN NAVY !

Otherwise a graet clip !

[vipppl]

The best video of Starfighter flight ever!

[stoneweapon]

Great Video. I find faster planes more exciting in flying displays than the boring verticals performed the newer fighters. They showed why the pilots liked the F104 althought it was known to be unsafe in the GAF.

[cajunhornet60]

GREAT airplane...my GOD the 104's were fast...

[AdrianNtart]

when was this video taken? there are tornados so it cant be so old

[jurgenmanfred]

sad

[DerMessermann]

woooooow! i love the sound!

[F104gfan]

Die F104G is einfach Geil

[DerMessermann]

"war" geil ;)

[gripen68]

Cool video - thanks for posting, I love the F-104. What year was that?

[JuergensMashup]

1986, the last season of the Vikings.

[panavia2]

I was 2 Years Member of the German Naval Wing 2, but Tornado Generation!! Very Nice Video, Thx !!! 5*

[chrigui]

Grazie per avere condiviso con tutti questa RARITA'!!

jetflydemoteam

[hkny73]

Vikings are German Navy's demo team not Luftwaffe.BTW awesome video.thanks for the uploading

[airshowparty]

Top Video!

Seen the "new" Starfighters Demo Team at Jacksonville Beach this year.

Greetings

Jens