Tennis Serve & Return Tips : Tennis Kick Serve

[XizelSF]

@MeltedButterCorp All pros use the continental grip or beyond (to the backhand side). Nobody uses the eastern forehand grip for serving since Boris Becker. Nadal CLEARLY uses continental.

[XizelSF]

@XizelSF His grip change was very small, but he changed TO continental from being more eastern backhand.

[snorcle1]

Thanks a million, for explaining the real technique "6-12 brushing ". Soon after I watched this video, I practiced for 2 hours, to get a 'kick' off it :). Super duper happy. I can now rely on my second serve, with continental. Will still need to work on getting a good speed along with it, though.

[cheezheadZZ]

gustavo . . "duhhh yahh i hit ball! i break stone!!! yahhh!!!"

[tsavxyooj]

i remember one of my matches i did a slice and the ball went way to the left and the other guy couldnt return it. HA!-

[temka892004]

gustavo is a faggot!

[jmlbloom]

nice serves but change your hair, son.

[Kiasko]

Everyone uses continental grip for serves but i use eastern. So im assuming im using the wrong grip but wen i try to use continental, it feels very uncomfortable. What do i do? Can i stick with eastern to serve?

[XizelSF]

@Kiasko Eastern FOREHAND or BACKHAND? Eastern forehand is a bad habit and should be discontinued ASAP. Eastern backhand is a good grip for spin serves.

[exactlythat]

@XizelSF haha xizel sf player lool

[sly741x]

@Kiasko i understand your problem and went through the same phase. I'm assuming u use the same grip that u use to hit a forehand and yes continental does feel awkward and the first time using it the ball probably flys in the wrong direction. This is because when u use this grip the biggest change is pronating (twisting) your wrist so that the racket face faces the area that you want to hit the ball at contact point. watch this video. /watch?v=M9jyuC1wMF8 if u are confused.

[fidalgo1987]

Bitch it looks da same!



[jtg998]

american twist serve?

[metal4eva666]

WTF HE MAKES IT LOOK SO EASY,damn i still have fucking inconsistant kickserves,i guess i 'll try tht method and slowly progress

[iownyou224]

I DONT CARE ABOUT DYLAN DOGG

[RKr894]

Greatt

[xBoneXBBoy]

if i get it consistant would i be able to use as a good 2nd? i want to do kick, but i have a really nice flat serve

[Enoyatta]

lol Shinji

[sarasmilepiano]

Great demonstration. A+

[merisa39]

I really like to see the different motion for slice and kick serve, it's helpful.

When we don't know these serves well, it's hard to know the difference and now I see it more than before. So for kick serve, during the fallow through the racquet is going outward, in the right and in the slice it is going toward the belly bottom as in a flat serve?

[tatsf226]

i think most beginners do not know how to toss ball, that is why their serve are not consistent.

[lickthatcow]

The Prince Of Tennis make u guys look like JB actually. .. not possible

[TheFatKid128]

w8 so is a kick serve pretty much like hitting a topspin serve? because of the raquet going from 6 to 12

[gewooneerlijk]

i am going from low to high but still get spin serve

[xbrando7]

this video is the video that I credit for teaching me how to hit the kick serve. Ever since I watched this first video, I've really become acclimated to the feel of the kick serve, and I never feel worried when hitting it as a second serve. Plus, i've learned how to add more power and place it better as well. Before this, I resorted to dinking my second serves over the net, but now I know what I'm supposed to do and it has become very consistent.

[ehollandhsd]

you use the continental serve

[69SKE69]

i'm sorry, but that last bit of advice was just terrible. Never change the toss for different types of serves. That just makes it more obvious for your opponent making the whole point of a kick serve worthless.

[TheAnonymousViewer]

@69SKE69 It's pretty much essential to change the toss for different serves. You'll find very few players (including serves) can hit multiple serves from the same toss. This is especially true when it comes to the kick serve, and the ball being behind the head is necessary to get the kick on it without hitting it in the net. The kick serve is most widely used as a second serve (given it's reliability when hit well) and won't come as a surprise even if disguised.

[nadman14]

@TheAnonymousViewer well i agree to an extent. it depends on how aggresive u want your kick serve to be. aggresive kick serves are tossed further into the court which disguises the serve a little more and gives a lot more power and spin but makes you make more errors.

[lureyourkidsinvan]

@69SKE69

Ignorant people should seal their mouths. So then why is it common knowledge to toss the ball slightly behind your head when hitting a kick serve.

[ZawShin]

@69SKE69 What are you talking about you have to change the toss by a little. How would you hit a kick serve when the ball is right in front of you or a slice serve? Yeah I don't think so. The point of a kick serve is so your opponent doesn't get a easy second serve its not supposed to be a weapon.

[wynniejoy]

Good tip, I'll be trying this next time on the court since serving is my weak point, so hopefully this wil work for me!

[kissluver]

FUCK YOU! non-sense.. god dammit

[saavedramarcelo]

Thanks for the video.

[westhamboi18]

@queenofcourt Anytime man, practice makes perfect.

[westhamboi18]

Yh a good tip, is to bend knees more and jump up into the kick serve like you would a flat serve, this will make it quicker and very effective, so practice driving up into the ball more, if you pinpoint that will also help.

[hattrickster33]

I prefer slice and shorter serves for my second serve because many players can actually attack the kick serve more than they would a slice.

[asianoutcast87]

I still need to work on the kick serve a lot. Of course, its always going in and bouncing high, but that is completely useless. Play somebody that knows how to play, and that person will squash your serve with a on the rise shot. The secret is, in this serve isn't all just topspin, its where you place it. A serve with passable spin on the line is more threatening than one with tremendous topspin on the middle of the box. That only applies to hard court though, clay makes it pop even more.

[falubii]

I use eastern on forehands and continental fore everything else.

[LindaW54]

good stuff

[hattrickster33]

some players just hammer every serve...even on second and they don't really care about spin

[13NickO37]

anybody know which grip would be better for this? i'm using the eastern but i'm not sure if i'm gettin the best results.

[neepathius]

@13NickO37 continental.

[evasivenose]

@neepathius continental good for most serves

[neepathius]

oh and i just wanted to let everyone know because it was not mentioned in the video, that he hits the ball at about 7o'clock to 2o' clock not 6 to 12, that will cause the ball to just lob & he also curves the racket around the ball in his serve to assure more pace to the serve and consistency

[neepathius]

i hit the ball according to what it'll let me do with it; someone hits heavy top spin i'll hit over the ball to nuetralize the bounce, or if someone hits short slow ball to net and it bounces 'below' net, then i'll pick it up with topspin and send it to the corner to set up for a volley

[neepathius]

oh and what is the difference between american kick and euro kick?

[neepathius]

u have to wait for the drop of the ball 1st on ur toss don't cha?, so that way the strings grab better, right? i use to have a good kick but im self taught mainly and am now trying to figure out theory though i am pretty damn good, not to brag, i used to hit the ball in the top right corner, that could be a good thing but i think i need to wait till the ball drops soo i can experience the 'snag' and lift the ball back up

[Alexandahls]

@neepathius. When hitting groundstrokes, do you still wait for the ball to drop down before hitting it so you can hear the beautiful sound of hitting? :-)

[neepathius]

@Alexandahls i play smart now where my only technique is just being able to 'play the ball,' whether flat,slice,topspin etc... if i get a slower ball to baseline i'll hit my style topspin which curves cuz they'll have  to run their shot or get outta the way!

[Alexandahls]

excellent. thanks :-)

[otto5996]

what kind of grip should i use?. I'm assuming continental.

[domoerigato]

I use a western grip for my topspin and for my kick serve. It's kindof difficult for my slices(main spin for me) but it makes it a lot easier for my backhand slice. so 3/4 isn't bad. I would suggest using a western grip for all around play. but if you do use a slice serve, use an eastern grip for the serve.

[fastfrogger]

wtf

[lilvietsolja]

I would say continental is nice, but what I have learned for more power is to move it to the left a little bit so the racquet is tilted outward a bit. I actually found this to be Really helpful in control and power despite it being a bit uncomfortable at the start.

[azncoolboii]

@lilvietsolja it's technically holding a single handed backhand grip, that's the grip you're talking about for more spin and power

[Hexelsfayt]

yes but you can feel free to tweek it a LITTLE to the lift or right to make it a bit more comfotable

[samirambo]

use wilson m45

[Guulke96]

@otto5996 i use the backhand grip for kick serve

[kabwalt]

@otto5996 good assumption



[rmrooster01]

A Kick serve with American twist can be a really effective 2nd serve. People I play against try to run around there backhand and hit my kick serve with there forehand, but when it has American Twist, it just makes it more difficult for them to hit a clean return. It works good on the ad side, hit it out wide.

[maryritajude]

what ugly service  ;)

[poolmasterz]

poo tastes like chocolate

[C4D2]

good to know...

[xiangdaoo]

but i quite get it...the serve part somehow looks same as the twist serve can anyone tel me pls? thnks

[KoreanMilkman2007]

wtf are you talking about?

[doodlemagik93]

I think the american twist serve is a combo of a slice serve and the kick serve...Not really sure though

[GueorguiJoukov]

A kick serve will jump straight after bouncing. An american twist will jump outward.

It means that both balls will come and will curve from right to left and will go down as well. Both, the kick serve will go forward and high; the twist will bounce high also, but will go from left to right after bounces.

A Kicker goes straight, a twsit actually bounces at the inverse of the curve you see.

All that changes is that a twist is hit a bit more sideways.

[DeathSlicern]

I also playing tennis :P

And i tryed out this serve on 3 matches.

It's great!

I didnt even train on it and it was really good.

Some Serve Ace and not many return ace. hehe :P Very Good serve!

[JLTRAIN233]

NICCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[thebeast976]

one day i was playying our number guy and my serves where dominating and i won the next day i played one of our jv guys and lost i just couldnt get them in

i play #2 btw

[thebeast976]

yeah high school we really have nothing in middle school

[TheRedsog]

والله نبقي ملخص حق مباراته مع روبريدو ( نقع ينطح نقع )

[Foshomyno]

ya that happens in video games too... i was powning some noobs on halo 3 one day and i was in the zone.. then the next day i was getting t bagged every second.. blows..

[liambannin]

It happens to EVERYONE in EVERY sport my friends, tiger woods, golfing LEGEND came 9th i think in the masters this year.

[mattsterr1234]

Does this guy understand that when you face away from the camera, that's also where your voice goes...??

[oathseeker]

i refer to that fizzle as "tennis slump" i get that too. : [

[y00nh0]

thats not a high bounce.

[Babolat3216]

He was simplifying how to do it...

[y03lt]

very very gud to learn

thanxxx.......

[coolioseven]

man...my flat serve is better...

[aznw1tpistol]

for overpronate, you use backhand eastern grip to do a kick serve

[FutureFederer23]

Kicks are very hard to master. I think. Anyone else?

[jamespark710]

yeshhhhhhhh VERY hard

[Drelza1]

yeah, but when u do it goes in, a lot.

[Prickle]

grip of the serve ?!? continental ?

[PrAsHeR900]

yeh continental is the right one

[Drelza1]

yup

[azngamer828]

anyone tell me where that toss is going to be if its on top of the head(face/body) or is it behind the head?

[purgatory13z]

Depends on who's teaching, but the easiest way I have heard of is throwing it parallel to the body (in relativity to the baseline) slightly to your left.(if you are a righty) birds eye view, the ball is the one to the left. Bending your knees and back to reach the ball there are what impart the sidespin to the ball that makes it kick out.

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[liampimp12341234]

dude the twist and kick are different.

[ryanhercules]

twist and kick is very similar shot... or I'll say its a same serve

[purgatory13z]

I like to think that (if you are a righty) a kick serve will jump to the right, while a "twist"(again, after several years of instruction, I have only informally heard of this name) will spin to the left in the same direction as a slice, but with bounce resembling a kick. This is a great second serve to have against lefties or to body serve into the backhand with. Federer uses it quite a bit in the deuce court.

[KoreanMilkman2007]

I think it works best in the ad court for rightys

[purgatory13z]

a kick serve does, but if you want to go out wide in the deuce court, a so called "twist" can be used.

[KoreanMilkman2007]

twist=kick...

[purgatory13z]

This is just the way I categorize it. There is a topspin serve, which goes higher over the net and bounces up. The kick is a topspin serve that goes one way, twist the other. I just call it that for simplification. Some people would just say topspin serve, it doesn't really matter.

[dioseolo]

Wrong. A kick serve can be either a twist serve or a topspin serve. The term "kick" derives from the fact that the ball bounces higher, which happens in both the twist serve and topspin serve.

[purgatory13z]

Arguably, you should try to learn how to hit all of your serves with the same toss. It's not realistic to do at first, but after understanding the principle of each of the main three serves(kick, slice, and flat, four if you include "twist") it's a reasonable goal. So I disagree with the idea of "locating your toss."

[didanhtennis]

I agree with Purgatory. Locating your toss will not only give away the serve but makes it really difficult to place that toss consistently at the location that supposed to be ideal for you to hit. You should try to hit all different serves with the same toss. It sounds crazy but it will be better on the long run because you don't tinker around with locations, just the way you swing or make contact with parts of the ball on different serves.

[gameplay0]

thats a great strategy. infact i use that same goal when doing my serves. i only have 3 serves. Slice, Topspin, Kick. my slice trails to the left, and kick trails to the right. so if i use this strategy it is really hard for the opponent to anticipate the direction the ball is going.

[KoreanMilkman2007]

there are only 3 serves...

[hypeblast]

thats a top spin serve!!!

[Gefilus]

:) I'd like to see that guys full power kick.

[Davecw1953]

how can you hit this ball a 6 o'clock when its going from left to right its 7 o'clock where you strike it, you would need a need spine if you tried to hit the ball at 6 ??? sorry just my opinion (also watch in slow motion at the strike point its 7 not 6

[Oreoclan]

Dude, if you knew the reality to all of this, nobody actually hits it at 7 and hits up. Nobody generates anything even close to a real topspin serve (Sampras was the closest, which explains how heavy his serve was).

Nobody has anything close to the capability of hitting the ball at 6 to 12. Like I said, Sampras was the closest and he has the best shoulder EVER for this kind of thing.