Typical example of an educated fool. "You can't stop it anyway" - does that apply to anything? What kind of argument is this? Is this how the last generation of activists saved our asses - by sitting on the couch, making up excuses? And then the notion of the intelligent ruling us - I guess he rather talks about "ruthlessness", not "intelligence". An intelligent person would refuse power, but what do we have, ruling the planet? CIA thugs, banksters, Zionist cannibals, corporate killers.
@trakkaton The argument against "you can't stop it anyway" doesn't apply to artificial intelligence. The first AI to reach human level intelligence is expected to rapidly increase its own intelligence by orders of magnitude within a few days or weeks. And it would likely want to prevent other competitive AIs from developing. It will be the first and possibly the last separate AI.
Trying to prevent it would only mean some group secretly rushing to develop some kind of AI and getting it all wrong
1. You don't have a clue what the first AI would do.
2. You just contradicted yourself. If an AI can be developed by a single group, a single AI can't stop this. You have no clue what you yourself are thinking.
3. Research is a collaborative, international process. NO single group can make such a decade-spanning progress of international networks on its own if those refuse to take part.
4. The current ethics-technology mismatch will be our end if further widened.
@trakkaton 1. First human level AI could do a lot of things, but one of the things will almost undoubtedly be growing its ability to learn, because learning is common to all humans from children to elderly. Once an AI thinks faster than we do, we lose control.
2. A single group can develop a human level AI, even if its a flawed one. Which is why it needs to be done sooner by a large group that will do it right.
3. I disagree. Breakthroughs happen. AI breakthrough in the wrong hands would be bad.
@trakkaton My opinions are based on current research and activity in neuroscience, artificial intelligence, robotics, and world economics. What are your opinions based on?
Research towards orbital satellites was deeply secretive and competitive.
Research towards nuclear weapons was deeply secretive and competitive.
The first successful airplane was developed by a single group.
The internet was developed by a single organization.
@trakkaton I agree with you completely that we have a huge ethics technology divide. It's a technological arms race. Each country trying to develop better technology to be more productive. Even third world countries using last weeks technology to jump into competitive range within the technological race to productivity.
Mix capitalism + semi socialism + exploitation + 6 billion people + instant world wide communication + higher technology + surveillance = nasty, very nasty.
JOHN FRUSCIANTE
smarfling 1 month ago
Joe Rogan needs to get this guy on the podcast.
tallifornia90210 8 months ago
Just enjoy the ride :-)
importfilta 1 year ago
"May know if I'm hungry or want to take a shit" LOL
this guys a good chap
seeriktus 1 year ago
Typical example of an educated fool. "You can't stop it anyway" - does that apply to anything? What kind of argument is this? Is this how the last generation of activists saved our asses - by sitting on the couch, making up excuses? And then the notion of the intelligent ruling us - I guess he rather talks about "ruthlessness", not "intelligence". An intelligent person would refuse power, but what do we have, ruling the planet? CIA thugs, banksters, Zionist cannibals, corporate killers.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton The argument against "you can't stop it anyway" doesn't apply to artificial intelligence. The first AI to reach human level intelligence is expected to rapidly increase its own intelligence by orders of magnitude within a few days or weeks. And it would likely want to prevent other competitive AIs from developing. It will be the first and possibly the last separate AI.
Trying to prevent it would only mean some group secretly rushing to develop some kind of AI and getting it all wrong
regemo 1 year ago
@regemo
1. You don't have a clue what the first AI would do.
2. You just contradicted yourself. If an AI can be developed by a single group, a single AI can't stop this. You have no clue what you yourself are thinking.
3. Research is a collaborative, international process. NO single group can make such a decade-spanning progress of international networks on its own if those refuse to take part.
4. The current ethics-technology mismatch will be our end if further widened.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton 1. First human level AI could do a lot of things, but one of the things will almost undoubtedly be growing its ability to learn, because learning is common to all humans from children to elderly. Once an AI thinks faster than we do, we lose control.
2. A single group can develop a human level AI, even if its a flawed one. Which is why it needs to be done sooner by a large group that will do it right.
3. I disagree. Breakthroughs happen. AI breakthrough in the wrong hands would be bad.
regemo 1 year ago
@regemo
I don't want to witness any more of your unfounded claims/ baseless opinion/ inability to respond to logical arguments. You had your chance.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton My opinions are based on current research and activity in neuroscience, artificial intelligence, robotics, and world economics. What are your opinions based on?
Research towards orbital satellites was deeply secretive and competitive.
Research towards nuclear weapons was deeply secretive and competitive.
The first successful airplane was developed by a single group.
The internet was developed by a single organization.
But you accuse me of not being logical? lol
regemo 1 year ago
@trakkaton I agree with you completely that we have a huge ethics technology divide. It's a technological arms race. Each country trying to develop better technology to be more productive. Even third world countries using last weeks technology to jump into competitive range within the technological race to productivity.
Mix capitalism + semi socialism + exploitation + 6 billion people + instant world wide communication + higher technology + surveillance = nasty, very nasty.
regemo 1 year ago
they finaly caught the geco cavman
crazycasy 1 year ago 3
Pleeeeaaaseeeeeee post the whole thing!
I love Goertzel. he's like the stoner Dr. Steve Brule of the singularity.
search his Multiverse blog for "dream."
PropensityWaveJr 1 year ago 6