Children wouldn't believe their parents, if they were to teach them a religion; without lying through their teeth, mobilizing entire schools, bribery with transcendental occasion gifts, and diagonally collaborating with backward lying hierophant communities—a stupefying, unbelievable, propaganda mediatization, excising their fundamental human right to reason with the mind.
I don't thinj the attempts of schools to indoctrinate kids are actually successful unless the parents take part as well. I went to a faith school and was forced to spend endless hours listening to drivel about God. If anything, it made me less likely to believe. I am opposed to faith schools not because of indoctrination but because i do not like the idea of "religious" kids being favoured over non-religious ones for a place in a state funded school
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I wont be supporting such a lame anti Christian minority group of radicals. Who lump all religions into one pot as if they`re all the same. Dozens of my mates went with me to Catholic school and became atheists how is it they didn`t get " Indoctrinated"? Thats like saying straight off Christian kids don`t have freedom of thought and critical thought. Also you showed your true colours when you eventually let slip your true not so respectful thoughts about Christianity. Christian country
Many thanks for the comment, but I must ask a few questions of you.
The video is anti religious privilege in society, not anti Christian. Which part of the video makes you feel the concept is ‘anti Christian’?
You are quite correct; I have absolutely no respect for the concept of the idea of Christianity with regard to its tenets: why do you feel that I should have such respect; is this respect expected, or even demanded of us?
Well lets see whether this comment get`s past the censorship brigade.
Thanks for the reply.
You asked "Which part of the video makes you feel the concept is ‘anti Christian’?"
11:48 The Bible is a man made fantasy. 12:10 when asked Christians can`t define God.
You asked a Bishop are all faiths true.04:11 He is strung by political correctness I`m not and only the Abrahamic God is true. all other Gods are false.
As long as Christians are the majority there will be faith schools
Ian “The Bible is man made fantasy” is not an anti Christian statement; it is a statement of fact.
We should not let social groups persuade us to refrain from making factual comments, simply because they offend sensitivities.
I would gladly defend your right to personally accept the contents of the bible to be true; while at the same, I shall continue to campaign to stop religious organisations informing young children they are true; because, they are not!
The Bible was written by men inspired by God. Yes therefore it is man made but regarding this "Fact" that it is a fantasy. If you`re going to tell me that the Bible is not true then give me this fact or facts.?
I can give you facts to show that the Quran is not true. Can you disprove what was written in the Gospels?
Why do you believe that a children would be Brainwashed if they went to a Christian School? I wasn`t.
You wholly accept the Bible to be true; and at the same time dismiss the Koran as a fiction; and you went to a Christian school, but you were not indoctrinated?
@NOTORIUK No harm but you can beg all you want. I have given up my time to read the quran , Hadiths and Tafsirs and I know more about islam than most muslims in the world do. And when I say that I can prove irrefutable evidence that the quran is not God`s work I mean it.
Many of my Christian born friends went to the same Christian schools as myself and they never bothered with religion or belief in God so therefore we kids who attend Christian schools don`t end up brain washed.
Do we have to get this nit picky I meant friends who like me was born into a Christian family. I never said Christianity was a nationality? and its not a idea to Christians its a faith, A following of Christ whom we believe to be the second personage of the Trinity.
Going out to watch the match with your mates at the pub is a Idea.
@FeignofCordor the very idea of being anti-religious is having no respect for religion. naturally he's not going to be respecting christianity. and where is he showing himself to be specifically anti-christian? all children, at a young age, do not have critical thought, as they are developing such skills. indoctrination is striking while young minds are developing, allowing the parent or other significant figure to input their bullshit which will last through the stages of development.
Wake up people! We all know and understand about indoctrination. The reality is that we cannot do fuck-all about it....EVER! Ignorance breeds ignorance, that is how it works, and that is our impending downfall. Indoctrination is the same as a virus: as soon as the virus knows it is strong enough to take over your body and make you ill, the virus works as one entity and ur fucked! LOL!, We're all doomed anyway, so WTF! No point in making urself crazy about fuck-all solutions, have a nice day!
@hungrysquid 'No children are born in a vacuum. They are 'indoctrinated' either at home, or school, or by community, or by media'
That's a very good point. I was going to say that children should only be taught what can be factually proven but I'm not so sure that would work.We can't just ignore religion, so children should be taught about all faith and non-faith systems, including the bad bits and then we should sit back and let children make up their own minds..IN A PERFECT WORLD
also forced indoctrination poses the problem of willing starting children with a false belief so then they can later disregard it? Ever mind the psychological abuse that that child will have to go through?
My 10 year old son is in a state school in Wales, he has 1.5hrs music practise to do daily, 2hrs of homework a week to be done, both outside school hours. Why is he asked in school to waste time learning about, and singing hymns in praise to, someone else's imaginary friend?
This is NONSENSE. Yes, exposure to intense biblical study lead to my relinquishment of the Catholic faith (and my subsequent whole-hearted endorsement of monstrous avian pasta). However, assuming that forced indoctrination will lead everyone to question their faith is purely LUDICROUS. If it were true, as it has been for centuries, then WHY IS THIS STILL A FUCKING PROBLEM?!
Get religous OUT of schools, and OUT of government, in ANY capacity!
@Cyclopaexan Err... sorry.. bit of an edit, in lieu of alcoholic indoctrination. If it were true that indoctrination, which has existed for centuries, led to people questioning the basis of said indoctrination, why is it still a problem. And I also meant to say get RELIGION out of the schools and government, though I suppose getting the religious(or as I spelled it, religous) out of it would be a boon as well. :P Sorry for the incomprehensible yapping.
@hullranger Assuming you're talking about the guy at 2:04, he kind of has a point. Nothing will turn you into an Atheist faster than reading the bible.~
Children wouldn't believe their parents, if they were to teach them a religion; without lying through their teeth, mobilizing entire schools, bribery with transcendental occasion gifts, and diagonally collaborating with backward lying hierophant communities—a stupefying, unbelievable, propaganda mediatization, excising their fundamental human right to reason with the mind.
antuerius 2 days ago
I don't thinj the attempts of schools to indoctrinate kids are actually successful unless the parents take part as well. I went to a faith school and was forced to spend endless hours listening to drivel about God. If anything, it made me less likely to believe. I am opposed to faith schools not because of indoctrination but because i do not like the idea of "religious" kids being favoured over non-religious ones for a place in a state funded school
fecklessmovies 2 months ago
@FeignofCordor - Read the bible properly and you too will become an atheist.
Greyhound1405 2 months ago
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I wont be supporting such a lame anti Christian minority group of radicals. Who lump all religions into one pot as if they`re all the same. Dozens of my mates went with me to Catholic school and became atheists how is it they didn`t get " Indoctrinated"? Thats like saying straight off Christian kids don`t have freedom of thought and critical thought. Also you showed your true colours when you eventually let slip your true not so respectful thoughts about Christianity. Christian country
FeignofCordor 2 months ago
@FeignofCordor
Many thanks for the comment, but I must ask a few questions of you.
The video is anti religious privilege in society, not anti Christian. Which part of the video makes you feel the concept is ‘anti Christian’?
You are quite correct; I have absolutely no respect for the concept of the idea of Christianity with regard to its tenets: why do you feel that I should have such respect; is this respect expected, or even demanded of us?
Mike Lawrence
NOTORIUK 2 months ago 14
@NOTORIUK
Good initiative
We need more like these globally
sonykroket 2 months ago
@NOTORIUK
Well lets see whether this comment get`s past the censorship brigade.
Thanks for the reply.
You asked "Which part of the video makes you feel the concept is ‘anti Christian’?"
11:48 The Bible is a man made fantasy. 12:10 when asked Christians can`t define God.
You asked a Bishop are all faiths true.04:11 He is strung by political correctness I`m not and only the Abrahamic God is true. all other Gods are false.
As long as Christians are the majority there will be faith schools
Ian
FeignofCordor 2 months ago
@FeignofCordor
Ian “The Bible is man made fantasy” is not an anti Christian statement; it is a statement of fact.
We should not let social groups persuade us to refrain from making factual comments, simply because they offend sensitivities.
I would gladly defend your right to personally accept the contents of the bible to be true; while at the same, I shall continue to campaign to stop religious organisations informing young children they are true; because, they are not!
Mike Lawrence
NOTORIUK 2 months ago 5
@NOTORIUK
The Bible was written by men inspired by God. Yes therefore it is man made but regarding this "Fact" that it is a fantasy. If you`re going to tell me that the Bible is not true then give me this fact or facts.?
I can give you facts to show that the Quran is not true. Can you disprove what was written in the Gospels?
Why do you believe that a children would be Brainwashed if they went to a Christian School? I wasn`t.
FeignofCordor 2 months ago
@FeignofCordor
You wholly accept the Bible to be true; and at the same time dismiss the Koran as a fiction; and you went to a Christian school, but you were not indoctrinated?
I beg to differ.
NOTORIUK 2 months ago
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FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@NOTORIUK No harm but you can beg all you want. I have given up my time to read the quran , Hadiths and Tafsirs and I know more about islam than most muslims in the world do. And when I say that I can prove irrefutable evidence that the quran is not God`s work I mean it.
Many of my Christian born friends went to the same Christian schools as myself and they never bothered with religion or belief in God so therefore we kids who attend Christian schools don`t end up brain washed.
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@FeignofCordor
“Many of my Christian born friends”?
Christianity is not a nationality, it is an idea.
When humans are born, they are not capable of forming, or evaluating, ideas.
It is therefore impossible to born ‘a Christian’.
Only indoctrination can make you perceive this to be a possibility.
NOTORIUK 1 month ago
@NOTORIUK
Do we have to get this nit picky I meant friends who like me was born into a Christian family. I never said Christianity was a nationality? and its not a idea to Christians its a faith, A following of Christ whom we believe to be the second personage of the Trinity.
Going out to watch the match with your mates at the pub is a Idea.
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@FeignofCordor
Stop acting like you have a monopoly on being offended or being a victim
All reli-nonsense is nonsense, yours is just another bunch of stupid shit
Jebus is a lying zombie
sonykroket 2 months ago
@FeignofCordor the very idea of being anti-religious is having no respect for religion. naturally he's not going to be respecting christianity. and where is he showing himself to be specifically anti-christian? all children, at a young age, do not have critical thought, as they are developing such skills. indoctrination is striking while young minds are developing, allowing the parent or other significant figure to input their bullshit which will last through the stages of development.
ledzeppelinrools 2 months ago
Wake up people! We all know and understand about indoctrination. The reality is that we cannot do fuck-all about it....EVER! Ignorance breeds ignorance, that is how it works, and that is our impending downfall. Indoctrination is the same as a virus: as soon as the virus knows it is strong enough to take over your body and make you ill, the virus works as one entity and ur fucked! LOL!, We're all doomed anyway, so WTF! No point in making urself crazy about fuck-all solutions, have a nice day!
woodee54 2 months ago
21st century state-sponsored (and enforced) superstition. Wow, when will we (be allowed to) grow up?
oneoffraven 2 months ago
No children are born in vacuum. They are 'indoctrinated' either at home, or school, or by community, or by media.
hungrysquid 2 months ago
@hungrysquid 'No children are born in a vacuum. They are 'indoctrinated' either at home, or school, or by community, or by media'
That's a very good point. I was going to say that children should only be taught what can be factually proven but I'm not so sure that would work.We can't just ignore religion, so children should be taught about all faith and non-faith systems, including the bad bits and then we should sit back and let children make up their own minds..IN A PERFECT WORLD
TheFestivelights 2 months ago
if anyone wants to talk this out or any other secular issues i recommend going over to the Atheismuk Facebook page ;)
dirtykongjon 2 months ago
also forced indoctrination poses the problem of willing starting children with a false belief so then they can later disregard it? Ever mind the psychological abuse that that child will have to go through?
dirtykongjon 2 months ago
2:50 - FANNY
FixedNewsChannel 2 months ago
Get these stinking charlatans away from our children.
drumcircler 3 months ago
My 10 year old son is in a state school in Wales, he has 1.5hrs music practise to do daily, 2hrs of homework a week to be done, both outside school hours. Why is he asked in school to waste time learning about, and singing hymns in praise to, someone else's imaginary friend?
savedenewt 3 months ago 2
Excellent!! . . .
hughc023 3 months ago
what an idiot santa is. What evidence is there that indoctrination leads to atheism?
waksibra 3 months ago 2
@waksibra Hallelujah, brother wasabisibra!
This is NONSENSE. Yes, exposure to intense biblical study lead to my relinquishment of the Catholic faith (and my subsequent whole-hearted endorsement of monstrous avian pasta). However, assuming that forced indoctrination will lead everyone to question their faith is purely LUDICROUS. If it were true, as it has been for centuries, then WHY IS THIS STILL A FUCKING PROBLEM?!
Get religous OUT of schools, and OUT of government, in ANY capacity!
Cyclopaexan 2 months ago 10
@Cyclopaexan Err... sorry.. bit of an edit, in lieu of alcoholic indoctrination. If it were true that indoctrination, which has existed for centuries, led to people questioning the basis of said indoctrination, why is it still a problem. And I also meant to say get RELIGION out of the schools and government, though I suppose getting the religious(or as I spelled it, religous) out of it would be a boon as well. :P Sorry for the incomprehensible yapping.
Cyclopaexan 2 months ago
"It's an ecumenical matter" - Father Jack, Craggy Island
howler95uk 3 months ago
Is that second bloke being serious ?
howler95uk 3 months ago
is that first bloke being serious?
hullranger 3 months ago
@hullranger Assuming you're talking about the guy at 2:04, he kind of has a point. Nothing will turn you into an Atheist faster than reading the bible.~
dkamm65 3 months ago 2