I would recommend 7.62x39mm round with an 8g bullet fired at 720m/s that has around 2,100j of energy. Or a 5.56x45mm round with a 4g bullet weight fired at 940m/s has around 1800j of kinetic energy. The main problem with 5.56 is kinetic energy transfer, not kinetic energy itself. Any of the newer 7.62 stuff made from 1967 to now makes bad wounds. 7.62 JSP, JHP, and ballistic tip rounds like V-MAX.. That V-MAX 7.62x39 is awesome!
@semiautoriflelover1 put what to rest? what would that prove? reliability vs accuracy? the AK is minute of man out to 300m any further they will use a vss, svd, or a pkm, or even a KORD 12.7mm. average engagements are 200-300m that was the whole reason we dropped 30/06 and 7.62 NATO as our standard rifle round in favor of 5.56, because it works within 2-300m and we can carry more rounds, same reason the russian went with 5.45.
look at vietnam, us with M16a1s with 20 rd magazines loaded with 16rds,(so that the mags would last longer) facing NVA and VC with ak 47s with 30rd mags and superior reliability, why did they win fights? Fire superiority!!!!!! Why did we win fights, close air support!!!! What does that tell you? I know the ARs are better now and more reliable, but the new AKm-74s are also more reliable than their predecessor and much more accurate.
@theunsuspecting Is there some thing wrong with you? Who cares about all that shit, I will out shoot you with your own favorite rifle, the AK74, I own one. Post your video showing target before and after without cheating like all AK parrots do and we can have a bet. You know how many people have been killed by the hand of the 5.56 round through an M16 over the last 50 years? Dead is dead. You seriously think you can out shoot me with a handgun offhand? Talk is cheap, make a shooting video.
@semiautoriflelover1 WHO estimates that 200,000 people die per year worldwide at the hands of the AK, meaning that it has killed more people in the past 50 years than any other weapon.
@theunsuspecting You know how many people have been killed by a M16/M4? Way more than with AK74 and 5.45 round. I don't have any sand in my state, no jams with my AR15.
@timothychong48 I guess you learned that from playing Call of Duty. I own AK47, AK74, VZ58, AR15, you have no videos so you're most likely a 15 year old midget farmer who plays games and learns about guns.
@semiautoriflelover1 How the fuck did I learn that from Call of Duty? That game is a piece of shit for kids. Stop making stupid accusations about someone when its really about yourself. Wow, you own those guns, I dont give a shit about what firearm you own. It's illegal to own a firearm from where I currently in, so you cant say things about you having owned a firearm and not me. In reality, you dont see many terrorists armed with 74's, they mostly use 47's and they lack proper training.
@theunsuspecting The United States didn't lose one single major battle in Vietnam, My Father and Uncle were there, they killed VC like you and stacked them up for sandbags. Kill count was 1.1 million VC/NVA vs 58,000 Americans(43,000 combat related). All you parrots do it talk, forget all that, let's have a shoot off with AK74s standing then handguns at any distance you want. bench shooter lol, 70% of my videos are offhand.
@semiautoriflelover1 I would have to be vietnamese to be VC, yeah my family fought in nam too. and regardless of the major battles, the north defeated the south and the US. and took over the whole country, the US failed its mission, therefore lost like the french before them. and they did not even have Air power naval power, or advanced weapons. kind of like now in afghanistan. its a pointless war.
@FullmetaljacketJ Really? If the command running the Vietnam war did the correct things that war could have been won, now go run in traffic and get killed.
@semiautoriflelover1 you need to take into account that probly 75% of those killes were from planes or helicopters, and then another 15% of these 'VC/NVA' were just civillians. the war was lost becasue no matter how many bombs were dropped, the little rats couldnt be driven from their holes, and no one would dare go in after them, that would be suicide. i dont care about major battles, the US lost the Vietnam war, it was them that chased us out.
@SNIPERSTEVE420 Let's talk about a current war, the USA kicked the living shit out of the assholes with AKs in Iraq, any time they had a head to head battle the guys with AKs are fucking toast in no time, the AK didn't win shit.
@semiautoriflelover1 im not going to argue ARs vs AK, its stupid, its apples to oranges. i love them both. but if one thinks AKs are crappy, innacurate or in any way junk, it just shows how little one knows.
@SNIPERSTEVE420 I own AKs and ARs so I know all there is needed to know about accuracy, reliability and function. My favorite is when guys comments while having never fired the different rifles. I can out shoot 90% of youtube with an AK, check out my video shooting AK74 at 100 yards, I had 5 rounds inside 1".
@SNIPERSTEVE420 I don't know why some people think that AK's are not accurate, it really just depends on your goals or what you are trying to do with the gun. I have seen people screwing around hip firing the gun all crazy, and I have seen trained people shooting an AK properly and it is not unheard of to get 1-3'' groups at 100 yards with open sights and milsurp. I have seen people get that and better. Its just that every movie starring an AK-47 the shooter just sprays and gets a 25% hit ratio.
@SSSDiaz7 i have hit 3" groups or better at 100 yards with iron sights on 3 of my AKs. and thats with cheap tula ammo. most people dont have the knowledge or means to zero the sights on an AK rifle so they think they are innacurate. they pull it out of the box and start shooting and cant hit nothing and think its the rifle. if a person cannot hit a man sized target at 300meters, consistantly, with a good AK then they do not know how to shoot.
India's Soviet bloc weaponry has handed Pakistan's NATO bloc weaponry their ass in every single war they have ever been in. That is if you would like to compare two relatively equal opponents. Comparing a super power, to a country that underwent an eight year long war of attrition with their neighbor, then annihilation by a UN force in 1991 and over a decade of the most stringent sanctions in human history isn't much of a competition. Go punch a baby.
Oh and saying the US didn't lose Vietnam is like saying the Soviets didn't lose in Afghanistan. It's called the "imperialist shuffle." They enter the country with stated goals and once they realize their goals are unattainable i.e. wiping out of the Mujahideen for the Soviets or Vietcong & NVA for the US, they change their goals in an attempt to save face.
The Soviets never lost a "battle" in Afghanistan either. They lost plenty of smaller engagements and their enemies had no reason to engage them in encounters where their mechanized forces would give them an advantage.
when the tolerances are machined to be looser than snooki's gaping vagina any rifle will feed when gunked up, it trades off accuracy for reliability but that isn't always a bad thing given the AK-47's track record
Although I am an AK fan, i bet that everything you just said was a lie. As simple as that. Its just "I can shoot, I win tournament - The guy who is noob, can not shoot, has AR and was last place" .... Cmon man, this was poor!
@ahyhijooooo the idea was from russia but russia doesnt make AK47s anymore other than for their military OR as saiga rifles and those are brought to america to be turned into ak47s.
@esh325 well if you wanna be technical yeah but they still produce akm's and those are exported as hunting rifles and then are converted to normal akm rifles.
@Grunt922 They don't make the AKM either. The Saigas are based off the 100 series. Main components between an AKM and Saiga will not even interchange, like the bolt and bolt carrier. Therefore, they are different rifles.
@esh325 akm rifles are still assembled according to the original ak blueprints, like inter ordnance and century international arms to name a few create those rifles out of new and used parts.
@godzilla1463 The AK-103 is not really an AKM. It's more like an AK-74 chambered for 7.62x39. You can't even interchange bolts between the AK-103 and AKM.
the AK-47 love's mud dirt sand.It was made by the devil.that is why it is so mean!the gun is 60 year's old.And it will be around for 60 year's or more!
I also want to add that I personally come from a Soviet background (was born in an ex-Soviet republic) and have a great deal of respect for Russian military technology. I just don't think this reliability thing should be blown way past the real-life possibility to make a case for the AK. because of the reliability thing the M-16 has been considered as second to AK by many, but the reality is that the US army prefers it to the AK because of other factors. I don't think it's just patriotism.....
@mardamek1 the fact that its a reliable weapon isnt the determinator that its the best assault rifle known to man. theres several other things besides this. sure they aint the most accurate weapon out there but the accuracy isnt that bad unless ur tryin to hit something from about 500 or 1000 yards off but still the accuracy isnt as bad as some people like to believe. and it also has pretty good stopping power with the 30 caliber round it shoots compared to the 223 rounds m16s shoot
I get the whole thing about reliability and why the AK is so respected, but I don't think that alone should be the determinator as to whether it's the best machine gun or not. I mean, in the battle field, yes, there is the danger of some dirt getting into the mechanism, such as sand particles, but this test is really over the top. Plus, what real soldier would not clean his gun knowing how much depends on it? And please, don't tell me he's gonna be in battle for so long, that he won't have time.
so everybody thinks the m16/ar15 is better huh? DUMB-ASSES. the ak47 is by common sense twice as powerful, but as you know, not accurate. still not good enough? try a 7.62 ak47 and you'll get the point so stfu if you think the ak is weaker than the m16/ar15..etc.
People slam the accuracy of these but fail to realize that the bullet caliber is slightly larger than .308 (7.62). The cheap Blazer and other cheap ammo that most people use, is utilizing .308 bullets. These result in less accuracy.
The AK is still not the most accurate weapon but good ammo helps a lot!
@BigAgitator the .308(7.62x51) and 7.62x39 are the same diameter bullet just a different length. The .308 is a more accurate round than the one fired by the AK (7.62x39). However recoil is heavier with the .308 which makes it harder to make accurate follow up shot.
I found a way to make the AK fail! I went the "it's an AK after all" rout and the last time I cleaned mine was probably in 1997... It doesn't like going for more than a decade without being cleaned/oiled/dusted so the last time I shot it the bolt was slicking to the rear, and not on an empty mag either!
@armani1860 infact new russian ak have very little recoil and one has none at all(dont get confiused about it because it has benn made in two callibers the russian 5.45x39mm and 5.56x45mm
@rongdisk23 it takes a extremly high amount of bad luck to get that to happen realy and most likeliy thing to happen is to get the cartrige case stuck in that place where the case exit
The guys dissing AR's and AK's please stop the 2 guns were made for different reasons, and with one being budgeted and one being expensive. One being loose and one being tight. One using necked down down crap casings and one being a brand new "no one knows about yet" round. One to be a prolithic legendary firearm to one being the preffered special units rifle. There 2 totally different rifles, compare a G3 and a FAL or something.
@TomsGuns hehe, yeah man, my AK jammed up on me and i didn't use any mud, dirt or anything like that. lots of things can cause jams even in an ak. they are really reliable but every gun can malfunction for whatever reason :D
First requirement for a combat weapon, it has to go bang every time you pull the trigger, doesn't matter if it can shoot 0.5 MOA at 800yds if it doesn't go bang every time. That's where the AK series scores highly, it goes bang every single time, even when dirty, even in hostile conditions, and is accurate to MOM (minute of man) at average combat ranges. The same can't be said of anything built on the AR action.
I have a busmaster ar 15 with 16 inch barrel and a Bulgarian ak74. In many tests that I have done my ak comes out on top when it comes to the grouping that I get at 250 yards. There is a pretty big difference.
the ak-47 isnt made for accuracy, its made for random firing at the enemy in large numbers without jamming. The ar-15 was made for accuracy so it is more prone to debris and dirt
That's not true, becuase despite all the stupid rumors, AKs can be very accurate, just as accurate as an AR. Also the AR is a durable and reliable firearm.
they usually arent accurate though considering they are made in large numbers and the milling is rough. Im sure there are top of the line ak-47s that are very accurate. If you are shooting semi it is probably much more accurate but you are allover on full auto with one
That is true, but if you are comparing accuracy you shouldn't look at the surplus ones, it wouldn't be a fair comparison. Both the AK and the AR are great weapons systems, they have their different uses and their different advantages.
well you arent gonna find the average russian soldier with a non surplus better ak-47 unless he bought it himself which is unlikely. and the AR are surplus to the us military
you should try the RUSSIAN Ak74M. My friend and i were at a shooting range and we were hitting 2 1/2 inch grouping at 200yards. Ak assualt rifles are accurate, you have to buy the right ones. I still dont have a russian one though, that was my uncle's. He payed 750 for it. I have a Romanian AKM 7.62. It has a East German Folding Stock which I love. I get like a 4 inch grouping at 200yards. meh.. Not bad for romanian.
pretty moot point to argue which one will make you more dead imo... but if your a civie it's pretty much a non-factor because we can have hp's and sp rounds. I can't remember the last time I shot any fmj ammo through my ak
This is why the AK47 is one of the best guns ever designed. There may be more powerful and more accurate weapons out there, but an AK will never let you down.
People say the same about the 1911 too. But not all of them run 100%. When it comes down to it, what I have the most experience with and trust my life to the most is either Sig handguns or properly built AR15s. Neither my sig nor my RRA have ever jammed once.
The Reason the AK is so reliable is because it was meant to be dismantled with gloves on and have it be easy to fix with gloves on. But because it had the room for gloves it gave up accuracy.
Now I hear some people wanting the M16/Ar15 to have a larger bullet for better stopping power but that means that it loses accuracy and it will cost more.
Plus the AK-47 is a "Machine gun" type of weapon where as the M16 is more of a rifle
P.S. nice Name you have "AssualtRifle"/Sturmgewehre
The AK is reliable mostly because of its extremely loose tolerances. It has large, simple, easy to access parts and controls. It's also cheaply made with a relatively low standard of quality. It's a product of post WWII era Soviet thinking which was using a massive army firing quickly and moving quickly to overwhelm their opponents. They learned this from the Germans (blitzkrieg).
My name means "storm rifle" which plays into the whole blitzkrieg theory, or "lightening war". :)
@NoviceInLife seriously you talk as if you know half a shit about germany, but you don't know what Hitler's Blitzkrieg was?....Wow, practice your lieing alittle more kid.
@Sturmgewehre i believe it was also the term hitler gave the MP-44. because it fired a full size round instead of a pistol round, he named it the "Storm rifle"
vergeib mein englisch bitte, ich spreche deutsch ein bisschen, aber ich kann über gewehren nicht sprechen auf deutsch. ich bin Amerikan von Die USA haha
How do you figure going larger is less accurate? that's assinine... The 6.5 Grendel and the 6.8 SPC are MORE accurate... they fire flatter. If larger was less accurate then explain why many snipers are now using .308 AR15 weapons?
The 7.62x39 may have a bigger bullet, but the 5.56x45 has a much nastier set of ballistics. When the 5.56 strikes tissue, it tumbles. And as it tumbles, it fragments, causing massive internal damage. With a bigger bullet, it may knock someone down, but you have a higher chance that it will simply pass through the target. Also, both weapons were designed to be effective at about the same range. The AK74 has a bullet similar to the 5.56; the 5.45x39.
AK's better. you fail to realize the direct gas imingement system on m16 sucks and the ak is just incredibly reliable. and the ak has at least SOME penetration power where the m16 has NONE which is critical for an urban environment
I know that the AK is more reliable; I actually prefer them over the AR type rifles. What I was talking about were the BULLETS that the individual weapons fire, not the weapons themselves. The 7.62x39 has more knockdown power, but the 5.56x45 does some really nasty things when it strikes human tissue. The 5.45x39R has a similar effect.
Yes the 5.56 does tumble when it hits flesh but much less so than in previous model M16's. In Vietnam, the rifling in the barrel was very minor, thus causing a less stable bullet. This is what led to the overhyped talk about the 5.56's insane damage. Yes, it still does do damage, but not nearly as much as most people believe
5.56 are only effective at or above a velocity of 2700fps, when it drops below this is lacks the kinetic energy to "shatter" on impact with soft tissue, below 2700fps it passes straight through, like getting shanked with a long screwdriver, the 5.45 7n6 is very unique, it is an fmj with a hollow cavity behind the nose, then a lead plug in the center, the round tumbles end over end in soft tissue, and has a long hardened steel penetrator in the back 1/2, good for wounding and penetrating.
@semiautoriflelover1 we know this because it is the result of testing, yeah a screwdriver to the head, lights out, a .22lr to the brain will do it too. How many people have you got with headshots, I know your a ubber bad ass ninja tree sniper. No doubt that ARs are accurate, but combat shooting has nothing to do with setting at a bench and shooting paper plates at known distances, its about shooting moving man sized targets that think, plan and shoot back.
@theunsuspecting I shot two people before with my glock 22 .40 cal, 1 died, anymore stupid questions? I can out shoot you standing at any distance with handgun or rifle, post your videos standing at 100 and 200 with rifle and handgun and we can have a contest. Good luck, you'll need it.
@semiautoriflelover1 was it a head shot at 100 yards? well I only shoot standing unless its with my rem short action, so that wont be a problem, what will we be shooting at?
@theunsuspecting How do you zero a scope retard if you don't shoot supported? You zero your iron sights on AK74 standing lol. offhand shooting with handguns and rifles is good for me, how much money do you want to bet on this?
@semiautoriflelover1 i dont have a scope on my pistol or AK, I only need to on my 700, which i shoot supported. Ok so what distances and what targets, how many rounds from each? i will be using a M&P9, 17 rd capacity. what are the parameters of the test?
@semiautoriflelover1 how do you want to do this contest, lets do multiple targets at various distances with both pistol and rifle together, kind of like a 3 gun stage without a shotgun, or with one if you want.
@theunsuspecting Why don't we put a target at 100 yards and show target, then run back to bench then pick up rifle(AK74) and fire 10 shots standing? Then try same thing with handgun, with heart rate up.
@NoviceInLife - there is nothing inherently inaccurate about larger bullets. It is the opposite actually. Larger bullets are less affected by the wind and if pushed to the same muzzle velocities, will keep a flatter trajectory.
AR uppers chambered in 7.62, 6.5, and 6.8 are just as accurate, if not more so, as the 5.56. The accuracy comes from the tighter tolerances of the AR platform.
@NoviceInLife well the problem comes in the shape of the m-16 not having any takedown power, and your theory about a bigger caliber being less accurate is ill founded. i suggest you study up on the 6.8 round and the weapons that shoot them, like the PSD.
@scids225 He probably meant AK as in the newer Ak-74m and up which have a more similar round and have less recoil and better accuracy but still have the 47's durability and reliability.
If only it was also accurate and had better sight mounting options, it would be the perfect weapon. Oh well, can't have it all. I want to get one eventually...
Yeah, I don't care for the stock made for midgets either. But in the end it does what it needs to do. It can easily hit a man sized target at 200 to 300 meters which is more than enough in terms of practical combat accuracy. I still prefer the M16, but the AK is a great rifle.
Yah, I LOVE the M16/AR's ergonomics, HATE it's small little miniature round, but whatever, it is very very accurate and easy to shoot. My favorite is the FAL though. In love with everything about that weapon. :-)
Rather reliable sources. (Veterens who give speeches at my war museum) claim that M16 is a vastly inferior gun as an active field weapon when it comes to range and especially reliability, As a proponent, what's your take on that?
They don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about, nor do they realize this is 2009 and not 1969. The M16 as it was initially introduced was a shitty firearm, mainly because of the powder type used in 5.56 of the period. Today, it's superior to about any other platform available, which is why we've stuck with it.
@Sturmgewehre Thank you. The debate seems to rage on and on about the inherent accuracy (or non-accuracy) of the AK platform, but when the chips are down and dust is settled, the AK DOES what it was DESIGNED to do. Sure, there are tweaks, bling, and build quality that can help make it a *little* more accurate, but overall it's meant to put holes in man-sized torsos at ~300m effectively. :)
@UberR3D It's not just the poor sights, the weapon is also built to extremely loose tolerances. There is also a whole lot of barrel flex and a lot of stuff interfering with that barrel flex for it to be consistent. You CAN build an accurate weapon based on the AK design, but the majority of them simply are not built that way. I'm not dissing the weapon, it's good for what it's built for, but it's not the be all end all weapon so many people seem to think it is...
@UberR3D Um... you're not going to notice flex... unless you can slow down time. ALL barrels flex while firing, even the most accurate weapons. The difference is how much flex and if anything interferes with the flex. If nothing interferes with the flex, it'll flex the same way everytime, which means the shots will be consistent. Thus why free floating barrels are the way to go for accurate rifles. Very heavy barrels eliminate a lot of the flex, but add on weight.
@slagman5 Ooooooh no i knew that i thought like im holding 2 sides in ym hand and i feel that little *tinge*, im retarded lol sorry. But yes free float is awesome, especially with a 16" bull barrel :)
@UberR3D Hehe, it's hard to describe through words I guess. And I'm not saying ALL AK's are inaccurate either. Just typically. There are always exceptions to the rule. I'm sure there are AR15/M16's that are very poor in accuracy compared to how they are typically...
Not an AK-47, but good video anyway (I think I saw the muzzle breaker of the -74 and post 74 models on the end, but I only got a brief look, so I might be wrong. Doesn't matter for the internals anyway.)
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I would recommend 7.62x39mm round with an 8g bullet fired at 720m/s that has around 2,100j of energy. Or a 5.56x45mm round with a 4g bullet weight fired at 940m/s has around 1800j of kinetic energy. The main problem with 5.56 is kinetic energy transfer, not kinetic energy itself. Any of the newer 7.62 stuff made from 1967 to now makes bad wounds. 7.62 JSP, JHP, and ballistic tip rounds like V-MAX.. That V-MAX 7.62x39 is awesome!
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US army test show that the HK416 jams roughly every 258 rounds in an extreme dust environment
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I hope the Russians invade the USA so we can put this to rest.
semiautoriflelover1 2 months ago
@semiautoriflelover1 put what to rest? what would that prove? reliability vs accuracy? the AK is minute of man out to 300m any further they will use a vss, svd, or a pkm, or even a KORD 12.7mm. average engagements are 200-300m that was the whole reason we dropped 30/06 and 7.62 NATO as our standard rifle round in favor of 5.56, because it works within 2-300m and we can carry more rounds, same reason the russian went with 5.45.
theunsuspecting 2 months ago
look at vietnam, us with M16a1s with 20 rd magazines loaded with 16rds,(so that the mags would last longer) facing NVA and VC with ak 47s with 30rd mags and superior reliability, why did they win fights? Fire superiority!!!!!! Why did we win fights, close air support!!!! What does that tell you? I know the ARs are better now and more reliable, but the new AKm-74s are also more reliable than their predecessor and much more accurate.
theunsuspecting 2 months ago
@theunsuspecting Is there some thing wrong with you? Who cares about all that shit, I will out shoot you with your own favorite rifle, the AK74, I own one. Post your video showing target before and after without cheating like all AK parrots do and we can have a bet. You know how many people have been killed by the hand of the 5.56 round through an M16 over the last 50 years? Dead is dead. You seriously think you can out shoot me with a handgun offhand? Talk is cheap, make a shooting video.
semiautoriflelover1 2 months ago
@semiautoriflelover1 WHO estimates that 200,000 people die per year worldwide at the hands of the AK, meaning that it has killed more people in the past 50 years than any other weapon.
theunsuspecting 2 months ago
@theunsuspecting You know how many people have been killed by a M16/M4? Way more than with AK74 and 5.45 round. I don't have any sand in my state, no jams with my AR15.
semiautoriflelover1 2 months ago
@semiautoriflelover1 Thats because most terrorists dont use the 74, they use the 47 dumbfuck.
timothychong48 1 month ago
@timothychong48 I guess you learned that from playing Call of Duty. I own AK47, AK74, VZ58, AR15, you have no videos so you're most likely a 15 year old midget farmer who plays games and learns about guns.
semiautoriflelover1 1 month ago
@semiautoriflelover1 How the fuck did I learn that from Call of Duty? That game is a piece of shit for kids. Stop making stupid accusations about someone when its really about yourself. Wow, you own those guns, I dont give a shit about what firearm you own. It's illegal to own a firearm from where I currently in, so you cant say things about you having owned a firearm and not me. In reality, you dont see many terrorists armed with 74's, they mostly use 47's and they lack proper training.
timothychong48 1 month ago
@theunsuspecting The United States didn't lose one single major battle in Vietnam, My Father and Uncle were there, they killed VC like you and stacked them up for sandbags. Kill count was 1.1 million VC/NVA vs 58,000 Americans(43,000 combat related). All you parrots do it talk, forget all that, let's have a shoot off with AK74s standing then handguns at any distance you want. bench shooter lol, 70% of my videos are offhand.
semiautoriflelover1 2 months ago
@semiautoriflelover1 I would have to be vietnamese to be VC, yeah my family fought in nam too. and regardless of the major battles, the north defeated the south and the US. and took over the whole country, the US failed its mission, therefore lost like the french before them. and they did not even have Air power naval power, or advanced weapons. kind of like now in afghanistan. its a pointless war.
theunsuspecting 2 months ago
@theunsuspecting We could have ended the war in 1 year if the people at the top were doing the right things, that was why the war was a failure.
semiautoriflelover1 2 months ago
@semiautoriflelover1 Nether of your arguments are valid Shut the fuck up.
FullmetaljacketJ 2 months ago 2
@FullmetaljacketJ Really? If the command running the Vietnam war did the correct things that war could have been won, now go run in traffic and get killed.
semiautoriflelover1 2 months ago
@FullmetaljacketJ Fuck you, I hope you get hit by a car and die.
semiautoriflelover1 1 month ago
@semiautoriflelover1 stfu kiddo. Seriously.
PatTheRiot 2 months ago
@semiautoriflelover1 you need to take into account that probly 75% of those killes were from planes or helicopters, and then another 15% of these 'VC/NVA' were just civillians. the war was lost becasue no matter how many bombs were dropped, the little rats couldnt be driven from their holes, and no one would dare go in after them, that would be suicide. i dont care about major battles, the US lost the Vietnam war, it was them that chased us out.
SNIPERSTEVE420 1 month ago
@SNIPERSTEVE420 Let's talk about a current war, the USA kicked the living shit out of the assholes with AKs in Iraq, any time they had a head to head battle the guys with AKs are fucking toast in no time, the AK didn't win shit.
semiautoriflelover1 1 month ago
@semiautoriflelover1 im not going to argue ARs vs AK, its stupid, its apples to oranges. i love them both. but if one thinks AKs are crappy, innacurate or in any way junk, it just shows how little one knows.
SNIPERSTEVE420 1 month ago
@SNIPERSTEVE420 I own AKs and ARs so I know all there is needed to know about accuracy, reliability and function. My favorite is when guys comments while having never fired the different rifles. I can out shoot 90% of youtube with an AK, check out my video shooting AK74 at 100 yards, I had 5 rounds inside 1".
semiautoriflelover1 1 month ago
@semiautoriflelover1 haha i was watching your vids yesterday. you blocked me. cowards block.
SNIPERSTEVE420 1 month ago
@SNIPERSTEVE420 I don't know why some people think that AK's are not accurate, it really just depends on your goals or what you are trying to do with the gun. I have seen people screwing around hip firing the gun all crazy, and I have seen trained people shooting an AK properly and it is not unheard of to get 1-3'' groups at 100 yards with open sights and milsurp. I have seen people get that and better. Its just that every movie starring an AK-47 the shooter just sprays and gets a 25% hit ratio.
SSSDiaz7 1 month ago
@SSSDiaz7 i have hit 3" groups or better at 100 yards with iron sights on 3 of my AKs. and thats with cheap tula ammo. most people dont have the knowledge or means to zero the sights on an AK rifle so they think they are innacurate. they pull it out of the box and start shooting and cant hit nothing and think its the rifle. if a person cannot hit a man sized target at 300meters, consistantly, with a good AK then they do not know how to shoot.
SNIPERSTEVE420 1 month ago
@semiautoriflelover1
India's Soviet bloc weaponry has handed Pakistan's NATO bloc weaponry their ass in every single war they have ever been in. That is if you would like to compare two relatively equal opponents. Comparing a super power, to a country that underwent an eight year long war of attrition with their neighbor, then annihilation by a UN force in 1991 and over a decade of the most stringent sanctions in human history isn't much of a competition. Go punch a baby.
Zalmai702 1 month ago
@Zalmai702
Oh and saying the US didn't lose Vietnam is like saying the Soviets didn't lose in Afghanistan. It's called the "imperialist shuffle." They enter the country with stated goals and once they realize their goals are unattainable i.e. wiping out of the Mujahideen for the Soviets or Vietcong & NVA for the US, they change their goals in an attempt to save face.
Zalmai702 1 month ago
@Zalmai702
The Soviets never lost a "battle" in Afghanistan either. They lost plenty of smaller engagements and their enemies had no reason to engage them in encounters where their mechanized forces would give them an advantage.
Zalmai702 1 month ago
when the tolerances are machined to be looser than snooki's gaping vagina any rifle will feed when gunked up, it trades off accuracy for reliability but that isn't always a bad thing given the AK-47's track record
falloutforever88 3 months ago
How did you find an Ak47 in a pond, what if there was poopysin in that pond
BagelBen98 3 months ago
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Although I am an AK fan, i bet that everything you just said was a lie. As simple as that. Its just "I can shoot, I win tournament - The guy who is noob, can not shoot, has AR and was last place" .... Cmon man, this was poor!
Robbe19 3 months ago
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Robbe19 3 months ago
People are so damn stupid. STFU AND LEARN SOMETHING BEFORE YOU SPEAK. This is rampant in the gun community...a bunch o' friggin' retards. Good video.
RockyMountainPrepper 3 months ago
it says that he had a dust cover
xXGEN3RALXx 3 months ago
ohh america you just got own
ahyhijooooo 4 months ago
@ahyhijooooo this was in america...fired by an american, with a gun that was assembled in america.
Grunt922 3 months ago
@Grunt922 so...
ahyhijooooo 3 months ago
@ahyhijooooo so how did america get owned x.x
Grunt922 3 months ago
@Grunt922 as far as i know ak-47 is made in russia ..so...........
ahyhijooooo 3 months ago
@ahyhijooooo the idea was from russia but russia doesnt make AK47s anymore other than for their military OR as saiga rifles and those are brought to america to be turned into ak47s.
Grunt922 3 months ago
@Grunt922 Russia hasn't made the AK-47 in at least 1952 years.
esh325 3 months ago
@esh325 well if you wanna be technical yeah but they still produce akm's and those are exported as hunting rifles and then are converted to normal akm rifles.
Grunt922 3 months ago
@Grunt922 They don't make the AKM either. The Saigas are based off the 100 series. Main components between an AKM and Saiga will not even interchange, like the bolt and bolt carrier. Therefore, they are different rifles.
esh325 3 months ago
@esh325 akm rifles are still assembled according to the original ak blueprints, like inter ordnance and century international arms to name a few create those rifles out of new and used parts.
Grunt922 3 months ago
@Grunt922 Yeah, they make the AKM. The Russians don't though.
esh325 3 months ago
@esh325 ever heard of the AK-103? lol
godzilla1463 3 weeks ago
@godzilla1463 Of course I have. I plan on buying something like it some day (SGL21)
esh325 3 weeks ago
@esh325 all that is is a modified AKM so yes Russia still makes them
godzilla1463 3 weeks ago
@godzilla1463 The AK-103 is not really an AKM. It's more like an AK-74 chambered for 7.62x39. You can't even interchange bolts between the AK-103 and AKM.
esh325 3 weeks ago
so now try same with m16
RUSsianPATRIoT34 6 months ago
the AK-47 love's mud dirt sand.It was made by the devil.that is why it is so mean!the gun is 60 year's old.And it will be around for 60 year's or more!
redneckman211 7 months ago
@redneckman211
Only a lifespan of 120? That's still not enough! :D
Simple, cheap and effective guns live forever!
1337soldiahs 7 months ago
Long live the Norinos!
oldannyboy37 7 months ago
The AK47 gets abused more then an Alcoholics wife....
GunZmaster223 7 months ago
Nice ass lol
ITSBRANDENYAEY 7 months ago
I also want to add that I personally come from a Soviet background (was born in an ex-Soviet republic) and have a great deal of respect for Russian military technology. I just don't think this reliability thing should be blown way past the real-life possibility to make a case for the AK. because of the reliability thing the M-16 has been considered as second to AK by many, but the reality is that the US army prefers it to the AK because of other factors. I don't think it's just patriotism.....
mardamek1 8 months ago
@mardamek1 the fact that its a reliable weapon isnt the determinator that its the best assault rifle known to man. theres several other things besides this. sure they aint the most accurate weapon out there but the accuracy isnt that bad unless ur tryin to hit something from about 500 or 1000 yards off but still the accuracy isnt as bad as some people like to believe. and it also has pretty good stopping power with the 30 caliber round it shoots compared to the 223 rounds m16s shoot
johndeereman567 8 months ago
I get the whole thing about reliability and why the AK is so respected, but I don't think that alone should be the determinator as to whether it's the best machine gun or not. I mean, in the battle field, yes, there is the danger of some dirt getting into the mechanism, such as sand particles, but this test is really over the top. Plus, what real soldier would not clean his gun knowing how much depends on it? And please, don't tell me he's gonna be in battle for so long, that he won't have time.
mardamek1 8 months ago
@mardamek1 If you're crawling through mud, a good amount of it can get into the action.
esh325 6 months ago
@armani1860 Hell ya you can get AN AK in .223 and it will be just as accurate as an AR-15 except I like the sites on the AK better.
PJagermann 8 months ago
@PJagermann ak's chambered for .223 seem to have problems cycling (example: my saiga .223 sometimes goes rouge and fires full auto)
shotgunn9 8 months ago
@shotgunn9 That's a not a normal functioning AK, and you should get it fixed.
esh325 8 months ago
@shotgunn9 you better destroy that rifle really fast before the ATF find out you have it. you will still get 15 years just the same.
Southern661 8 months ago
Reminds me of those old timex adds ....Takes a lickin and keeps on tickin
Brewfu 9 months ago
@Pill88Dickle it's better to say cod not C.O.D. watch?v=9uNxRcGy0Io&feature=youtu.be
whatuwantmom 9 months ago
@Pill88Dickle wtf is C.O.D.??? sorry, but God is my god
whatuwantmom 9 months ago
Nice the only good gun I would want when I reach age 19
Punkmastaflex97 10 months ago
very nice
AK47powpow 10 months ago
in my opinion if the m16 was as reliable as the ak 47 it would probably be the best gun (in my opinion of course)
NSProductions30 11 months ago
cool no dislikes, ima be the first!!! jking :P
toxaris71 1 year ago
so everybody thinks the m16/ar15 is better huh? DUMB-ASSES. the ak47 is by common sense twice as powerful, but as you know, not accurate. still not good enough? try a 7.62 ak47 and you'll get the point so stfu if you think the ak is weaker than the m16/ar15..etc.
whatuwantmom 1 year ago
the other day when i went shootin i threw my ak in the dirty snow and left it to cool down and then picked it up and just unloaded on a couple boards
ENTERMYDEATHMASK 1 year ago
what problems do all people have with the aks accuracy?
you can hit a persons chest on 500 meters just using iron sight..
can you imagine how much 500 meters are?
"m16 hits a person on 800 meters bla bla.."
this is not real.. in a battle situation you will never be that calm that you can use a weapons full potential...
even your puls will make this impossible!
300 meters are far enough...
and aks high reliability is caused by the high ammount of gas
the dirt has simply no chance =)
gazakind 1 year ago
People slam the accuracy of these but fail to realize that the bullet caliber is slightly larger than .308 (7.62). The cheap Blazer and other cheap ammo that most people use, is utilizing .308 bullets. These result in less accuracy.
The AK is still not the most accurate weapon but good ammo helps a lot!
BigAgitator 1 year ago
@BigAgitator the .308(7.62x51) and 7.62x39 are the same diameter bullet just a different length. The .308 is a more accurate round than the one fired by the AK (7.62x39). However recoil is heavier with the .308 which makes it harder to make accurate follow up shot.
RGPlayer87 1 year ago
I found a way to make the AK fail! I went the "it's an AK after all" rout and the last time I cleaned mine was probably in 1997... It doesn't like going for more than a decade without being cleaned/oiled/dusted so the last time I shot it the bolt was slicking to the rear, and not on an empty mag either!
Bushmaster73 1 year ago
@armani1860 infact new russian ak have very little recoil and one has none at all(dont get confiused about it because it has benn made in two callibers the russian 5.45x39mm and 5.56x45mm
sveqete96 1 year ago
if u put a bunch of crap in your gun will it still have good accuracy?
dwarftn1996 1 year ago
@dwarftn1996 It will probably decrease the accuracy.
SavageArms357 1 year ago
Why don't the US and Canadian military use the AK47?
amazingdany 1 year ago
@amazingdany
because its accuracy isnt good.plus it uses the 7.62 round,nato use the 5.56
rangers11000 1 year ago
@rangers11000 thats a plus the 5.56 is crap
assym2006 1 year ago
@amazingdany because of an embargo and the fact that ak are russian guns not us and us wants an thier gun or a nato desinged gun
sveqete96 1 year ago
@amazingdany
out of principle
tsxws 1 year ago
lol you could have taken the sling off first... xD
Ronald3570 1 year ago
Ya gotta love the ak
DominantDominoes 1 year ago
is there any possible way to jam that gun, with out intentionaly doing it?
rongdisk23 1 year ago
@rongdisk23 getting too much dirt or sand down near the trigger will jam it up. Look for videos on youtube with AK sand test.
bllw69 1 year ago
@rongdisk23 it takes a extremly high amount of bad luck to get that to happen realy and most likeliy thing to happen is to get the cartrige case stuck in that place where the case exit
sveqete96 1 year ago
The guys dissing AR's and AK's please stop the 2 guns were made for different reasons, and with one being budgeted and one being expensive. One being loose and one being tight. One using necked down down crap casings and one being a brand new "no one knows about yet" round. One to be a prolithic legendary firearm to one being the preffered special units rifle. There 2 totally different rifles, compare a G3 and a FAL or something.
UberR3D 1 year ago
omg, AKs still jam. The real reason for its famous reliability is that it shoots covered in dirt and mud. But that doesn't mean it wont jam
TomsGuns 1 year ago
@TomsGuns hehe, yeah man, my AK jammed up on me and i didn't use any mud, dirt or anything like that. lots of things can cause jams even in an ak. they are really reliable but every gun can malfunction for whatever reason :D
TheScorchedOne 1 year ago
@TomsGuns My friend's Romanian AK jams without the help of mud or sand, lol. Think he got a lemon. :-P
slagman5 1 year ago
First requirement for a combat weapon, it has to go bang every time you pull the trigger, doesn't matter if it can shoot 0.5 MOA at 800yds if it doesn't go bang every time. That's where the AK series scores highly, it goes bang every single time, even when dirty, even in hostile conditions, and is accurate to MOM (minute of man) at average combat ranges. The same can't be said of anything built on the AR action.
DepakoteMeister 1 year ago 15
@DepakoteMeister
Actually, that's a straight up fallacy.
Immortal91Technique 3 months ago
The afghans clean their AKs by knotting their shoelaces, dipping them in oil and sliding them through the AK barrels. They're doing it wrong.
looks like they don't need to clean it. xD
hencrazy 1 year ago
amazing!
bebe4235 1 year ago 2
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why is his gun in mud?
leslieip1993112 1 year ago
@leslieip1993112 its a reliability test
PS3WPRODUCTIONS 1 year ago 3
No it's just how AK's are usually stored
illegalusername 1 year ago 4
@jrmym2
I have a busmaster ar 15 with 16 inch barrel and a Bulgarian ak74. In many tests that I have done my ak comes out on top when it comes to the grouping that I get at 250 yards. There is a pretty big difference.
AgoobyGOOBER 2 years ago
the ak-47 isnt made for accuracy, its made for random firing at the enemy in large numbers without jamming. The ar-15 was made for accuracy so it is more prone to debris and dirt
baconator490 2 years ago
That's not true, becuase despite all the stupid rumors, AKs can be very accurate, just as accurate as an AR. Also the AR is a durable and reliable firearm.
acidburn134 2 years ago 4
they usually arent accurate though considering they are made in large numbers and the milling is rough. Im sure there are top of the line ak-47s that are very accurate. If you are shooting semi it is probably much more accurate but you are allover on full auto with one
baconator490 2 years ago
That is true, but if you are comparing accuracy you shouldn't look at the surplus ones, it wouldn't be a fair comparison. Both the AK and the AR are great weapons systems, they have their different uses and their different advantages.
acidburn134 2 years ago
well you arent gonna find the average russian soldier with a non surplus better ak-47 unless he bought it himself which is unlikely. and the AR are surplus to the us military
baconator490 2 years ago
you should try the RUSSIAN Ak74M. My friend and i were at a shooting range and we were hitting 2 1/2 inch grouping at 200yards. Ak assualt rifles are accurate, you have to buy the right ones. I still dont have a russian one though, that was my uncle's. He payed 750 for it. I have a Romanian AKM 7.62. It has a East German Folding Stock which I love. I get like a 4 inch grouping at 200yards. meh.. Not bad for romanian.
grunticus09 2 years ago
If you want to be more impress, fill that AK up in sand It's still gonna shot!!!!
naciremad 2 years ago
@naciremad wrong.
jrmym2 2 years ago
OMG... Is that your AK47?? It's gonna be such a pain to clean it... lol!!!
vascularcylinder 2 years ago 2
No not really just take of all the parts and throw em in clean water there you go a clean AK47 or don't clean it at all still works
SMGJohn 2 years ago
pretty moot point to argue which one will make you more dead imo... but if your a civie it's pretty much a non-factor because we can have hp's and sp rounds. I can't remember the last time I shot any fmj ammo through my ak
TX1790 2 years ago
This is why the AK47 is one of the best guns ever designed. There may be more powerful and more accurate weapons out there, but an AK will never let you down.
AnimeFanatic5602 2 years ago 57
there aint none
OSETINKAVKAZ12INCHES 2 years ago
People say the same about the 1911 too. But not all of them run 100%. When it comes down to it, what I have the most experience with and trust my life to the most is either Sig handguns or properly built AR15s. Neither my sig nor my RRA have ever jammed once.
skyhop 2 years ago
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OneHotPorsche944 2 years ago
The Reason the AK is so reliable is because it was meant to be dismantled with gloves on and have it be easy to fix with gloves on. But because it had the room for gloves it gave up accuracy.
Now I hear some people wanting the M16/Ar15 to have a larger bullet for better stopping power but that means that it loses accuracy and it will cost more.
Plus the AK-47 is a "Machine gun" type of weapon where as the M16 is more of a rifle
P.S. nice Name you have "AssualtRifle"/Sturmgewehre
NoviceInLife 2 years ago
The AK is reliable mostly because of its extremely loose tolerances. It has large, simple, easy to access parts and controls. It's also cheaply made with a relatively low standard of quality. It's a product of post WWII era Soviet thinking which was using a massive army firing quickly and moving quickly to overwhelm their opponents. They learned this from the Germans (blitzkrieg).
My name means "storm rifle" which plays into the whole blitzkrieg theory, or "lightening war". :)
Sturmgewehre 2 years ago 6
I know what it means but to Storm is to Assault so I made the Automatic translation
By the way, what is your Blitzkrieg Theory
P.S. Don't go speaking to me in German I know too little to hold a conversation with accuracy
NoviceInLife 2 years ago
It's not my theory, Nazi Germany came up with it. Just Google "blitzkrieg" and you'll learn all there is to know.
Sturmgewehre 2 years ago
@Sturmgewehre Blitzkrieg auf englisch ist "Lightning War"
jdizzy01 1 year ago
@NoviceInLife Blitzkrieg is how Germany ripped France a new asshole. It's basically the predecessor of "shock and awe"
k4n31985 1 year ago
@NoviceInLife seriously you talk as if you know half a shit about germany, but you don't know what Hitler's Blitzkrieg was?....Wow, practice your lieing alittle more kid.
KevinWirt 1 year ago
@Sturmgewehre i believe it was also the term hitler gave the MP-44. because it fired a full size round instead of a pistol round, he named it the "Storm rifle"
vergeib mein englisch bitte, ich spreche deutsch ein bisschen, aber ich kann über gewehren nicht sprechen auf deutsch. ich bin Amerikan von Die USA haha
jdizzy01 1 year ago
How do you figure going larger is less accurate? that's assinine... The 6.5 Grendel and the 6.8 SPC are MORE accurate... they fire flatter. If larger was less accurate then explain why many snipers are now using .308 AR15 weapons?
HatrXx78 2 years ago 3
When I say larger I also mean Large in caparison to the Gun
NoviceInLife 2 years ago
id rather have a 5.56 round chambered for an ak-47
such as the galil rifle
aaronchungrulez 2 years ago
The 7.62x39 may have a bigger bullet, but the 5.56x45 has a much nastier set of ballistics. When the 5.56 strikes tissue, it tumbles. And as it tumbles, it fragments, causing massive internal damage. With a bigger bullet, it may knock someone down, but you have a higher chance that it will simply pass through the target. Also, both weapons were designed to be effective at about the same range. The AK74 has a bullet similar to the 5.56; the 5.45x39.
AnimeFanatic5602 2 years ago
AK's better. you fail to realize the direct gas imingement system on m16 sucks and the ak is just incredibly reliable. and the ak has at least SOME penetration power where the m16 has NONE which is critical for an urban environment
vordonez12 2 years ago
I know that the AK is more reliable; I actually prefer them over the AR type rifles. What I was talking about were the BULLETS that the individual weapons fire, not the weapons themselves. The 7.62x39 has more knockdown power, but the 5.56x45 does some really nasty things when it strikes human tissue. The 5.45x39R has a similar effect.
AnimeFanatic5602 2 years ago
Yes the 5.56 does tumble when it hits flesh but much less so than in previous model M16's. In Vietnam, the rifling in the barrel was very minor, thus causing a less stable bullet. This is what led to the overhyped talk about the 5.56's insane damage. Yes, it still does do damage, but not nearly as much as most people believe
vordonez12 2 years ago
From what I've read on tests done with the 5.45x39 is that it's fragmentation abilities are no where near the 5.56x45.
The AR with a Gas piston system is probably one of the better weapon systems out there.
I still love AK's though. They're nice, hardy weapons.
ssbmpalyer2010 2 years ago
5.56 are only effective at or above a velocity of 2700fps, when it drops below this is lacks the kinetic energy to "shatter" on impact with soft tissue, below 2700fps it passes straight through, like getting shanked with a long screwdriver, the 5.45 7n6 is very unique, it is an fmj with a hollow cavity behind the nose, then a lead plug in the center, the round tumbles end over end in soft tissue, and has a long hardened steel penetrator in the back 1/2, good for wounding and penetrating.
theunsuspecting 2 years ago
@theunsuspecting
Sadly your point is well stated with the M4. Short barrel completely screws the effectiveness of the 5.56.
ssbmpalyer2010 2 years ago
@theunsuspecting How would you know this? Have you ever shot anyone? ARs are accurate, 1 shot to head, lights out.
semiautoriflelover1 2 months ago
@semiautoriflelover1 we know this because it is the result of testing, yeah a screwdriver to the head, lights out, a .22lr to the brain will do it too. How many people have you got with headshots, I know your a ubber bad ass ninja tree sniper. No doubt that ARs are accurate, but combat shooting has nothing to do with setting at a bench and shooting paper plates at known distances, its about shooting moving man sized targets that think, plan and shoot back.
theunsuspecting 2 months ago
@theunsuspecting I shot two people before with my glock 22 .40 cal, 1 died, anymore stupid questions? I can out shoot you standing at any distance with handgun or rifle, post your videos standing at 100 and 200 with rifle and handgun and we can have a contest. Good luck, you'll need it.
semiautoriflelover1 2 months ago
@semiautoriflelover1 was it a head shot at 100 yards? well I only shoot standing unless its with my rem short action, so that wont be a problem, what will we be shooting at?
theunsuspecting 2 months ago
@theunsuspecting How do you zero a scope retard if you don't shoot supported? You zero your iron sights on AK74 standing lol. offhand shooting with handguns and rifles is good for me, how much money do you want to bet on this?
semiautoriflelover1 2 months ago
@semiautoriflelover1 i dont have a scope on my pistol or AK, I only need to on my 700, which i shoot supported. Ok so what distances and what targets, how many rounds from each? i will be using a M&P9, 17 rd capacity. what are the parameters of the test?
theunsuspecting 2 months ago
@semiautoriflelover1 how do you want to do this contest, lets do multiple targets at various distances with both pistol and rifle together, kind of like a 3 gun stage without a shotgun, or with one if you want.
theunsuspecting 2 months ago
@theunsuspecting Why don't we put a target at 100 yards and show target, then run back to bench then pick up rifle(AK74) and fire 10 shots standing? Then try same thing with handgun, with heart rate up.
semiautoriflelover1 2 months ago
@NoviceInLife - there is nothing inherently inaccurate about larger bullets. It is the opposite actually. Larger bullets are less affected by the wind and if pushed to the same muzzle velocities, will keep a flatter trajectory.
AR uppers chambered in 7.62, 6.5, and 6.8 are just as accurate, if not more so, as the 5.56. The accuracy comes from the tighter tolerances of the AR platform.
KurNorock 1 year ago
@NoviceInLife well the problem comes in the shape of the m-16 not having any takedown power, and your theory about a bigger caliber being less accurate is ill founded. i suggest you study up on the 6.8 round and the weapons that shoot them, like the PSD.
matwizard 1 year ago
@NoviceInLife rubbish the FAL SLR is very and fires a bigger round than both the AK 47 and AR15 I will take a SLR over either any day.
assym2006 1 year ago
@NoviceInLife i talked to a russian who said that the ak being less acurate than m16 was absolute bullshit
scids225 1 year ago
@scids225 He probably meant AK as in the newer Ak-74m and up which have a more similar round and have less recoil and better accuracy but still have the 47's durability and reliability.
Rolly17 1 year ago
@scids225 Why don't you fire both like I have and find out instead of just being a parrot.
semiautoriflelover1 2 months ago
@NoviceInLife Well, larger calibers don't have to sacrafice accuracy, it's all about the tightness of the chamber and bore. Like the m468
DONTdoSMACK 1 year ago
@NoviceInLife are you retarded? seriously?
tehw000000t 1 year ago
If only it was also accurate and had better sight mounting options, it would be the perfect weapon. Oh well, can't have it all. I want to get one eventually...
slagman5 2 years ago
Yeah, I don't care for the stock made for midgets either. But in the end it does what it needs to do. It can easily hit a man sized target at 200 to 300 meters which is more than enough in terms of practical combat accuracy. I still prefer the M16, but the AK is a great rifle.
Sturmgewehre 2 years ago
Yah, I LOVE the M16/AR's ergonomics, HATE it's small little miniature round, but whatever, it is very very accurate and easy to shoot. My favorite is the FAL though. In love with everything about that weapon. :-)
slagman5 2 years ago
Rather reliable sources. (Veterens who give speeches at my war museum) claim that M16 is a vastly inferior gun as an active field weapon when it comes to range and especially reliability, As a proponent, what's your take on that?
TheLaxinator 2 years ago
The guys talking are still alive are they not? So it can't be that bad.
tripmatt1 2 years ago 3
They don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about, nor do they realize this is 2009 and not 1969. The M16 as it was initially introduced was a shitty firearm, mainly because of the powder type used in 5.56 of the period. Today, it's superior to about any other platform available, which is why we've stuck with it.
skyhop 2 years ago 2
True dat
Llepsdog 2 years ago
Actullay politics and money is why it still here.
spetsnaz1 2 years ago 2
but is more expensive
terryevangustafson 2 years ago
@Sturmgewehre Can you make a video standing and shooting at 300 meters with an AK and hitting the target easily? Say a half man target.
bllw69 1 year ago
@Sturmgewehre Thank you. The debate seems to rage on and on about the inherent accuracy (or non-accuracy) of the AK platform, but when the chips are down and dust is settled, the AK DOES what it was DESIGNED to do. Sure, there are tweaks, bling, and build quality that can help make it a *little* more accurate, but overall it's meant to put holes in man-sized torsos at ~300m effectively. :)
voodoomanboy 1 year ago
@slagman5 I dont think the gun it self is inaccurate, i think its just the poor sights. But thats my opinion on it.
UberR3D 1 year ago
@UberR3D It's not just the poor sights, the weapon is also built to extremely loose tolerances. There is also a whole lot of barrel flex and a lot of stuff interfering with that barrel flex for it to be consistent. You CAN build an accurate weapon based on the AK design, but the majority of them simply are not built that way. I'm not dissing the weapon, it's good for what it's built for, but it's not the be all end all weapon so many people seem to think it is...
slagman5 1 year ago
@slagman5 i dont notice flex at all, the new AK i picked up (Bulgarian ak74) can shoot 2" at 100 no problem (but that just might be my gun, idk).
UberR3D 1 year ago
@UberR3D Um... you're not going to notice flex... unless you can slow down time. ALL barrels flex while firing, even the most accurate weapons. The difference is how much flex and if anything interferes with the flex. If nothing interferes with the flex, it'll flex the same way everytime, which means the shots will be consistent. Thus why free floating barrels are the way to go for accurate rifles. Very heavy barrels eliminate a lot of the flex, but add on weight.
slagman5 1 year ago
@slagman5 Ooooooh no i knew that i thought like im holding 2 sides in ym hand and i feel that little *tinge*, im retarded lol sorry. But yes free float is awesome, especially with a 16" bull barrel :)
UberR3D 1 year ago
@UberR3D Hehe, it's hard to describe through words I guess. And I'm not saying ALL AK's are inaccurate either. Just typically. There are always exceptions to the rule. I'm sure there are AR15/M16's that are very poor in accuracy compared to how they are typically...
slagman5 1 year ago
@slagman5 the AK-105 would be good for you then....
TheForeignCanadian 1 year ago
Not an AK-47, but good video anyway (I think I saw the muzzle breaker of the -74 and post 74 models on the end, but I only got a brief look, so I might be wrong. Doesn't matter for the internals anyway.)
LucanJacups 2 years ago
Since I own it, I'm pretty sure I know what I have. It's a Chicom 7.62x39 side folding AK47 with a muzzle brake I put on it.
Sturmgewehre 2 years ago
ya it's an AK
trytocall911 2 years ago
ROFL try that with an m16 or ar 15 lol score one for the ak!! great video