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  • idiots

  • If the old testament no longer applies, then original sin also does not apply.

    Without original sin, Jesus's alleged role of a "savior" is greatly diminished.

  • Does the content of those math and science books actually change from year to year?

  • Well how else are we going to teach them that in America, knowledge has time limit, and if you don't have the money to pay for it, you can't have the knowledge? What, we're supposed to just TEACH people, and they remember it? THAT WOULD BE SOCIALISM!!! besides, everyone knows knowledge is evil, just ask God! He cursed us for all to eternal torture for trying to gain knowledge!

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  • on the last part: some of the 613 commandments of judism are directly related to the temple, and when its gone obviously its no longer required. other than that, many of the laws were excused out when the temple was destroyed and the newly formed rabbinic judism wanted to reform the religion and to give answers to the disappointed hebrews.

  • Another argument for private schools. They can require that the students have a Kindle & if they lose it they have to replace it. What are you going to do if a public school student pawns his Kindle & pretends somebody stole it?

  • But I liked using old books with scribblings and such in :P

  • Professing themselves to be wise they became utter fools...All science can do is look into the creation.

  • @HedeenJeff

    LOLnope.

  • A scientist who wants to work for good education.... And he's with the Republicans?

    I'm thinking he's on the wrong side there for his idea's. That's the group where a at least third of their voters or so is fundies. Y'know, the sworn enemies of education.

  • Great info I would suggest using GreenTextbooks . org

    Save Money, Save The Planet

    GreenTextbooks . org specializes in the recycling of textbooks, DVDs, CDs. Buying used textbooks not only saves you money, but cuts down on greenhouse gases caused by the manufacturing of new textbooks.

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  • votebotted?

  • It's a shame that most parents just don't give a damn enough about their kids to support their education and simply BUY them books instead of god damn fucking tv, cell phone, video game system, or whatever else they seriously don't need. God damn parents.

  • Atheists FTW!!

  • The laws given to Moses are part of a covenant between a tribal confederacy and their chief god, Jahweh. They don't apply to Gentiles, only to the children of Israel.

    The only covenant that applies to Gentiles is the Noahic covenant of Genesis 9:1-17.

  • @pirbird14 Which, of course, still wouldn't excuse a god fro creating laws and rules that are by any rational persons standards extreme, cruel, and capricious. Just because one set of rules might have applied to one people at one time would not excuse a god from having established those rules to begin with, and by those rules having defined itself as a wrathful, vindictive, abusive god.

  • @GermanChocolateCake

    Most gods back then were depicted as capricious if not downright wrathfull and in constant need of appeasement. Very different from the benign sky-daddy of modern times. The modern gods are just bland and shallow with no depth of human understanding.

  • @pirbird14 Kind or cruel, bland or capricious, they are all just fairy tales. The only thing these gods represent is the desperation of the human condition.

  • @GermanChocolateCake

    I think the gods represent the human need to better ourselves. The old gods were personifications of ideals to which humans aspired. When war comes, we want to be the best and we call on Mars, for instance. Fortunately, human understanding has advanced beyond religion and we have better insights into how to better ourselves.

  • @pirbird14 That's probably one aspect of it sure, but like the hydra, religion has many heads...and thus wears many hats (how's that for a mental image?)

  • The point is that The Old Testament was written to be obeyed in the context of the political situation of the time. Any historian or archeologist would probably agree that this passage isn't meant to imply the Old Testament no longer applies after Jesus, but that as new political situations arise, much of it the Old Testiment might no longer be relevant. It seems even the writers at the time understood that you cannot cling to a single unyielding document forever.

  • Much like we cant cling on the bible in general forever?

  • Why cant the schools just buy the books, and then the students turn the books in at the end of the year? If a book is damaged\lost the student will have to replace it...i have never had use for my high school books at a later point in time. money wasted.

  • Woops! Non-profit rules fail.

  • oh snap, a guy from Eagan! I was born in Burnsville!

  • True but looking back to old textbooks became sort of obsolete when the internet came by

  • Well in grade school, they spply you with text books. Some teachers let you take them home, some make you keep them in the class.

  • I would postulate, as a high school teacher, most of the students would never open their books after the course was over. I would say it would be a needless expense for taxpayers. The idea sounds great but the chances of most using it as a future reference are, imo, slim. Also, if a student is going on to higher levels of education, the prior texts are too basic to help them with the more indepth info they would be currently engaged in. I could see it working for lit but not math or science.

  • If the Old Testament is irrelevant, than God didn't "create the heavens and the earth" right?

  • Since when were the prophecies of the OT fulfilled? Jesus didn't fulfill all of the prophecies (in fact, most if not all of the ones he supposedly did fulfill would have been easy to make up)

    If you want to know which prophecies Jesus didn't fulfill just go to a Jewish source... if you want to find out what's wrong with your religion ask somebody of another religion after all.

  • WTF is wrong with that guy's eye brows?

  • The House bill to allow Texas students to keep old textbooks is a bill that deserves to be passed!

  • Cheap textbooks wouldnt be so bad, being able to take them home for reference and allow the school to buy new updated textbooks, Cheaper could be soft cover-- or black and white photos and things of that nature, but if they're harder to learn from they should uh, buy the expensive one and have the kids pay for it, or charge it in the initial school fee.

    anyways the second part of this video makes good points, but people of faith wont see said points.

  • In the UK we can just take them unless the school tells you to specially. I'd never get any decent reading done in school and we don't have many good libraries either so everything tends to be kept at home.

    A bookstore here is always a place to buy books, I know a big book store in some other countries will have places to sit, read and learn.

  • Genius. I love the idea.

  • It sounds like a great idea, but question: When you say "cheap textbooks" what does that really mean? Do they skimp a lot on the content included or say, make the books very text-oriented with few photos and illustrations? I mean frugality is great, but what about the old adage, "You get what you pay for" and "If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys"?

  • I think something as simple as not buying massive hardcovers would help.

  • Cheap text books don't tend to worsen in the quality of information, but they do suffer on layout etc and that makes them harder to learn from.

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