@Mrmtjones Wow you have no research skills. All you have to do is look for it and you'll discover that so called "animals" have specific parts of their territory where they make their "dirt" They do not "crap all over themselves" unless they are ill or scared. Maybe sometimes because most animals do not walk on two legs and live by instinct rather than conscious decisions and cannot avoid tracking some "dirt" onto their pelts/bodies. Also "animals" do not kill eachother in the way humans do. 50?
@Mrmtjones Your the one who needs to calm down. I have kept this argument peaceful up until now. You are the one who has shown signs of being not calm. I was trying to say that we were stupid in a sense that the so called human was not a title to be proud of, but that was 2 months ago and I was stranger than now. So thank you for proving my point of "not proud to be human" and you should also be thanked for supportnig this channel. Every-time you come back here to reply you give them $0.10....
@Baboonaiih first of all, every click is not $0.10. second of all, why would I care if they did get $0.10? I love newscientist.
and THIRD I was the one just makin jokes and you had to go and write two whole freaking paragraphs. Humans are the most amazing things in the observable universe. isn't that obvious?
@Mrmtjones You call those jokes? I call that trolling. Even if I'm the one trolling you.... HA! Punk eat that! Those apples are darn tasty! But really, you call those jokes? When you post something online it is not like I can HEAR sarcasm or read your thoughts. You're just a little retarded, kid.
I cant help but thinking that the ethics of this event are slightly awry... I am mindful of the pain that these poor creatures have experienced in the name of scientific or rather technoligical advance....
You know, that monkey does't look too uncomfterble, I mean its eating marshmellows. I don't think eating marshmellows with an oversized, extreamly strong metal arm is much of a hell.
Wow my comment was completely turned into some kind of philisophical or religious remark. iwas just pointing out examples with out opinion... to think...or to feel as if we are lords of anything is selfish and maybe those people need pain and suffering
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How is this even remotely cruel? People have pet monkeys. Do you think dogs should be free of there owners? Of course not! Dogs love their owners. This monkey is probably well kept, and loved. After all, they are feeding it marshmallows. And the expirement here isn't hurting the monkey in any way. Plus, he's helping us create a new prosthetic arm. What's worse: A) giving a "pet" monkey sweets in return for testing an arm, or B) having some 15 year old go through life without an ar
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But proportionally, monkeys already have more upper body strength than humans. They'll be unstoppable with cyber-mega-robot arms. They'll be able to hurl poo with deadly force!
@zbotto They've been borging monkeys for years now. Scientific American did a writeup on walking experiments at Duke University with back in 2008. Google is your friend!
@zbotto I was just @ the University of Michigan looking into going there for biomedical engineering and one of the senior research people explained the science of it (they used this video as an example of one aspect of stuff they do) . It is totally LEGIT stuff.
Guys need to stop feeling for the monkey. Seriously. You benefit every day from the efforts of people who did things you may or may not have liked before you were born and in the future. This world has so much to thank for science like this. This kind of research will change how we interact with electronics, networks, communication. This monkey is doing more for humanity than most of US ever will. You shouldn't feel sorry, you should be jealous. He's far more valuable than you know.
Yeah, you might not. But what about the man in Iraq who lost both arms in an explosion? Maybe he would like to eat a banana one day out of his own will too. How about the capability for people to drive better, or operate machinery at a distance by just thinking about it? How would you like to imagine a picture someday and draw it on a screen for all to see? Understanding the way the brain interacts with the body, will help us interact with future technology and the world itself.
@strikerk Just like there was more techonolgical advancements after the nazis experimented on the jews. Pain and suffering is the price for technology! WOOT!
@MochizMuM Pain and suffering is the price of living. When you die, a child is born. Hopefully that child is born with something in this world that you yourself did not have. That's the progress and evolution of society. We are the lords of our domain~ and if we don't take control of it, then we leave life in the realm of superstition and chance.
@Blahb27 primitive feelings? f can´t be primitive only how u act is crucial. even revenge isn´t primitive it is essential for the sense of social justice.
apart from that i wrote that people which are a danger for the society should be used for experiments so that the costs they are producing could be cancelled and they also bring an advantage for other people. it would be more effective too. you could do this voluntary accord to more privileges for example.
@moxigen Well dr. Mengele, no matter how you wrap it, I'm still going to disagree with you. It's still unethical to discard thousands of human beings regardless of circumstance.
@Blahb27 keep it technical. i am not mengele and i don´t endorse what he has done! there is a big difference between useless torture of innocent people and target oriented medical research. in your mind animals are inferior living being or what?! today we still use sentient creatures instead of cell cultures just because it is not ethically correct to use these human cells. that is primitive! in my mind a mouse or an ape have more rights to live without pain than a human like dr. mengele and co.
@moxigen That's not true. Wherever possible, non-concious alternatives are used, even if those are way more expensive than a test animal.
Besides, what's so wrong about my comparison? He selected on an ethnic group, you select on a group who alledged did something wrong. Both groups could easily contribute a lot to society, but wouldn't be given the chance by being used for research. If you don't like the Mengele comparison, perfectly understandable, than it's time to change viewpoints.
@Blahb27 oh sure you would rehabilitate a man who had raped and killed your daughter so that he can be a productive member of the society. if you don´t understand the different between the torture of someone only because he belongs to any group of people and someone like above..between innocent and guilty people..you should review your mind.
i know examples were cell cultures has been used, but also some were scientist criticised public that it was prescribed to use animals instead of cells.
@strikerk in order to be successful in anything, you need to be able to see both sides of a story. all anyone else is saying is that the monkey doesn`t give a shit about the great things that this work is doing, because he doesn`t have the cognitive ability to understand it, same reason humans are able to take advantage of him in using him in experiments such as this one. so yeah, its perfectly okay to feel sorry for him AND be proud of the advances made because of him.
Because government have deemed human testing unethical and hence illegal. Too bad because there are people, like me, who would volunteer in a heartbeat. I WANT TO BE A CYBORG!!!!
to say cloning or robotics is "unnatural" is a fallacy, because everything is "natural" if created by humans, which are "natural" beings. who is to say it is not our right to use the tools before us?
It says implanted. Monkeys are religous Icons in some places. This is torture. And they do have feelings and emotions. Humans aren't that great dude. In fact animals show more compassion on a whole than humans. Your just too tied up in believing what other people say. I would rather be on a planet with only animals. Than to have no animals on a planet with only people. People screw up everything. Humans are clueless of nature and just make stuff up as they go. Clueless. cow
Humans aren't that great? Get a fucking clue. We are dominant because we are by far the most intelligent and innovative species on the face of the planet, and yeah, we are the most capable of showing compassion, too.
Show me a study that shows a single animal species that is "more compassionate" than a human being, because right now, you're just coming off as a bitter nerd who got beat up in High School and has problems letting go of the past.
No they ain't. In fact humans are the biggest liars there are. They use a belief system to create a wall of deceit against anything that is better than them. You don't dominate anything you useless punk. They all are more compassionate than humans even snakes and scorpions. Snakes don't have freezers full of meat. In fact they live such a docile lifestyle they sustain on less meat than a human. You meat eating freak. They were doing fine before they made humans. Their sacrifice.
Humans are the "biggest liars there are" because we have the brain capacity to do so. The idea of a snake or scorpion being able to show even a shred of "compassion" with their limited cognitive abilities literally made me laugh out loud. Animals can't express themselves to the extent that we do, but there is definitely deceit in the animal kingdom, unintentional or not.
Too bad you'll never recognize that, because you're a self-hating douchebag. You don't eat meat? Nobody gives a fuck.
So inanimate objects can have emotion but not animals. The animals I dont' eat care about it. Whether you can ever prove any of your self applied theories or not is irrelevant. Your episodes of wild kingdom or animal planet will never have truth about life. The truth would ruin all theories. Thus making humans unnecessary which is the truth. Your unnecessary. No matter how important you try to make yourself. This planet DOESN'T need humans.
you do realize that you yourself is in fact a human? you're saying that you're unnecessary, unless you're some kind of super robo monkey that got loose and learned to talk shit on youtube. maybe you dont realize that the cellphone in your pocket or the computer that you're using was created by these so called unnecessary meat eating freaks of humans. why dont you go tell a lion somewhere to quit eating meat and tell me what he says...
@easymacncheez Life on planets. Must be easy for a human like yourself. Not having your DNA messed with by a being from another planet. Say for instance that all life on earth died several times over infinity. The other planets also had life and died enough times. Meanwhile while everything is dead one of the other planets land here and screw with our life forms that are laying dormant. Life form meaning their intelligence can find our beginnings and alter them into things like animals.
@easymacncheez And you end up in that cage or zoo or experiment or dinner table only seeing all of you children slaughtered by someone like yourself. Then what Mr. Live on what other people tell you the truth is. We live in the middle of nowhere on a planet.And all dirt in the universe is from things that have died. That means all planets at one time had life.And before they died by whatever means they tinkered with other planets just because they wondered what if.Next time you'll be in a cage
so what you are saying is that we are cannibal aliens from another planet sent here to destroy life with experimentation, zoo's and dinner? i have heard many different ways we got here and i choose to believe things for myself by living and learning. beliefs are always changing but facts stay the same. if everything is dead, no life on earth, how would they experiment on dormant life? dormant life cant exist if everything is dead.
Another planet in our solar system came here. To alter our life forms. They altered the DNA of humans to become animals. Only we weren't around. And if you don't believe life can't come from dirt. Where does dirt come from. Dirt comes from things that have died. But there are still elements in the dirt that contain things that can produce life. That is where life comes from and where it goes. The process of life starts all over again when everything dies. Just another way.
@krrrruptidsoless "And all dirt in the universe is from things that have died." Shut up your bullshit theorys or show us some facts .... if you dont know what are you talking about dont talk at all...
That's unfair of you to say. On a small scale, many other animals contribute to the degeneration of an environment. Mostly insects, like ants and locusts. Relatively speaking, the planet in its entirety is no less influential to universal environment than a small patch of forest being grazed by a colony of termites. Humanity isn't special. We're just an animal, and trust me, just because Cows haven't invented to automobile, doesn't mean humanity is unnatural for doing so. It's our nature.
@Schilcote There was a guy 4 to 5 years ago doing this. In other words you don't need monkeys, humans are doing this. A guy volunteered to have this done and it was working on him. So this is unnecessary on animals. In fact they had a hand made and the guy was moving the fingers.
@Schilcote So you know how a monkey thinks. The plates in peoples heads came from necessity because of accidents and things. How many people do you know that would say sure put a plate in my skull that is working properly to see if I can move a freakin robotic arm. The inserts in the monkey are for some stupid ass experiment. Put them in your brain if you need this so badly. I have you scheduled for tomorrow. Have fun.
Enough animal testing. There was a guy that volunteered himself for this a couple of years ago. So why the monkey who didn't. Now you have just created a psychosis in this monkey. They will unplug him and he won't feed himself. He will look at others arms and think he can move them. Oh the humanity. Stop animal testing.
@krrrruptidsoless uhm, are you aware that this is an invasive test? that means they opened his skull and put microchips on his brain to read the signals. they hid it quite good in this video.
It's a fucking monkey ffs, stop being such a bleeding heart. This monkey would have had absolutely nothing to contribute to the world had it not been for its taking part in this groundbreaking experiment. Whiny hippies like you do nothing but complicate things needlessly.
If you're so worried about "saving" the bloody animals from this testing, why don't you sign yourself up in their place?
so because the monkey contributes nothing to society it is worthless? what have you contributed to society? if you havent contributed anything, then are you as 'worthless' as the monkey?
to me it is about the fact that the monkey is a being as well, not a lifeless object for us to manipulate.
I HAVE contributed to society, unlike those who have spent their lives rallying against technological progress by typing misinformed rants opposing animal testing on the internets. The animals that are used for testing aren't a part of an endangered species, and they're treated much better than they would be if they had to fend for themselves in the wild. They're given food and shelter by these "awful" humans, whereas fellow monkeys would more than likely steal their food and leave them to die.
i didnt say you havent contributed to society, i said 'if' 'cause you are a complete stranger.if someone kept you locked up in a cage with food, would it be better than living your life, where other humans could attack you and compete against you? i didnt say anything about stopping technological advancement, the point im stressing is that these monkeys have lives too, and in the post you made it seemed like you were referring to these beings are completely dispensable and otherwise worthless.
I think its awesome, eventually we will have the little electro nodes in our brains on small plates and can control stuff wirelessly, by 2020 this shit could be possible...
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loving the craftily placed metal bar that hides the fact the top half of his skull missing and there's a ribbon cable going into a (poorly) placed set of circuits wired on the monkeys brain (you'll find the pics if you google them)
there's two sides of the coin.
Guinea pigs will die if you give them penicillin, which for mankind was a massive leap foreward in medicine.
Yet that didnt stop us using guinea pigs to test thalidomide which was fine for them, look how that one turned out for us...
so what? you saying we need to test on humans? i don't know about you but i have a life that i don't want cut short by experimental stuff. you go for it if you want but i'm willing to toss a couple lemmings in the way to get a ballpark on things.
For many scientists the gold standard is getting published, which in turn generates grant money. Animal research is often used precisely because results can be manipulated (ie, animal research proves and disproves cigarettes cause cancer depending on whose funding the study; UCLA or Philip Morris) Animals endure having their brains sawed open, being paralyzed, burned, infected with disease, force fed chemicals etc- no law requires sedation and scientists claim it interferes with results.
They've been doing this experiment for years with no practical application for humans: they've been able to cure cancer in rats for decades; the problem with animal research is results don't extrapolate to humans because we are too dissimilar; even in the case of primates who share 99% our DNA but not enough to be relevant to humans. Chimpanzees can't get the same strain of HIV humans do, yet we continue to try and infect them and extrapolate results.
how is having electrodes implanted in his brain not mean or painful? To the people who think its not painful then why don't you volunteer to cut your skull open and put metal electrodes in your brain with no anaesthetic?
not mean because the electrodes dont really have to be very big, they could be as thin as human hair. And where does this video say they did not use local anasthetic? Thats all youd need for any brain surgery, they do not put you under for brain surgery, they keep you talking while the doctor works so they know he hasnt diced up special parts of your brain, like motor function or 3d thinking. Its very cool and could be a huge gain for those who need prosthetics.
Even if this were actually true, nobody would do brain surgeries without sedation, since things in pain generally move around. Even if you tie them down, they still twitch. Brain surgery is perhaps the most precise surgery there is (your instruments need to be guided by a frame that's actually screwed to the patient's skull), so nobody would risk the monkey twitching and messing up the work that's been done so far.
Fuck you, New Scientist for promoting such wasteful, horrific experiments. This frankenstein science is unethical, not to mention pointless. How about a follow up experiment implanting electrodes in the researchers brain? Dickhead.
Pointless? I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of where new technology comes from. How do you suppose knowledge learned from experiments like this could be used? Fully functional robotic replacement limbs for people who have lost their arms and much more.
Will humans ever have the kind of real humility & selfessness & respect for the others needed to avoid making the frank n stein option the preferred outcome...?
It seems in its brain the right hand is "connected" with the robotic arm. Whenever the monkey grabs the food, it turns the right hand clockwise shortly before the robotic "fingers" close. So it doesn't seem there to be a fifth "limb control center", but it's a reuse. Maybe with more training and time to let the brain "rewire" it can really be independent.
GOOD POINT PrinceDime. They intentionally don't show the top of the head because they've hacked it open and and implanted a shitload of wires.
You can actually see the wires suspended above the monkey's head throughout the clip. The dangling gray wires move in sync with the monkey as he turns his head.
Although I do agree that animal experimentation is unpleasent it is also very needed. If hooking a monkey's brain to a car battery is going to help amputees in ten years I have only one thing to say, "The red is positive and the blue is negative".
I like how they discreetly block the camera's view of the top of the monkey's head so the viewer can marvel at this technological feat without having to see the distressing tubes and shit sticking out of its skull.
No it is not the end of the world, it is the end of the world as we know it. The transhumanist future, the Singularity, is coming faster each and every day. Before long I predict a branching of life akin to the precambrian explosion, however unlike that great branching of life this one will not be dictated by the demands of survival, this new Evolution Revolution will be dictated by our will, our desires. We will be able to become what we choose to be as opposed to being what we are.
I do not mean AI singulatiry, I mean Technological Singularity in relation to the tranhumanist agenda. Biotech, AI is a factor and in this case cyberbiotics. Hooking our brains directly to computers is a massive step forwards toward the goal for techno-godhood.
I am in full support of transhumanism. I believe we must embrace the coming of the Singularity, technological and sociological evolution of man has far outpaced our biological development, to our detriment. The only viable options to resolve this issue is to embrace ludditism and go backward reversing tech/social advancement to match our biological level or to go forward and advance our biology to match our other areas of advancement. That which does not adapt is ultimatly doomed to extinction.
That is right on the ball. Similar to a hypothesis I had about transhumanism through nanotech "pseudo cells" that will eventually replace our biological cells. They will be adaptive, and constantly updated via the internet and extending our lifespans indefinitely.
That is the concept of Homo Superior, a blending of man and machine to the point there is no divisible line, organic mechanical cells. Isaac Asminov proposed that idea quite some time ago, that man was a proephet of sorts, The Island, I Robot, AI were all based on his writings. Phenomenal
love how she said marshmello
Saar0s 3 days ago
Thumbs up if you are a monkey and you think a robot arm that feeds you marshmallows is a cool idea!
shellsuitstrangler 4 months ago
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Baboonaiih 5 months ago
@Baboonaiih lol ur dumb
0MGitZCHAZ 5 months ago
@0MGitZCHAZ :P Yep
Baboonaiih 4 months ago
@Baboonaiih Your not going to get many thumbs up, i don't think animals use youtube....
ItsQuin 4 months ago
@Baboonaiih i'm pretty sure animals crap all over themselves and I can think of about 50 animals off the top of my head that kill each other.
Mrmtjones 3 months ago
@Mrmtjones Wow you have no research skills. All you have to do is look for it and you'll discover that so called "animals" have specific parts of their territory where they make their "dirt" They do not "crap all over themselves" unless they are ill or scared. Maybe sometimes because most animals do not walk on two legs and live by instinct rather than conscious decisions and cannot avoid tracking some "dirt" onto their pelts/bodies. Also "animals" do not kill eachother in the way humans do. 50?
Baboonaiih 3 months ago
@Baboonaiih hahaha calm the fuck down dude. save your anti-human bullshit for somewhere else and stop using it to get thumbs up you fucking whore
Mrmtjones 3 months ago
@Mrmtjones Your the one who needs to calm down. I have kept this argument peaceful up until now. You are the one who has shown signs of being not calm. I was trying to say that we were stupid in a sense that the so called human was not a title to be proud of, but that was 2 months ago and I was stranger than now. So thank you for proving my point of "not proud to be human" and you should also be thanked for supportnig this channel. Every-time you come back here to reply you give them $0.10....
Baboonaiih 3 months ago
@Baboonaiih first of all, every click is not $0.10. second of all, why would I care if they did get $0.10? I love newscientist.
and THIRD I was the one just makin jokes and you had to go and write two whole freaking paragraphs. Humans are the most amazing things in the observable universe. isn't that obvious?
Mrmtjones 3 months ago
@Mrmtjones You call those jokes? I call that trolling. Even if I'm the one trolling you.... HA! Punk eat that! Those apples are darn tasty! But really, you call those jokes? When you post something online it is not like I can HEAR sarcasm or read your thoughts. You're just a little retarded, kid.
Baboonaiih 3 months ago
my monkey is augmented
ostolero 7 months ago
Now i can finally get a new arm...this real one is not workin right
maniacalsnowball 8 months ago
i bet the dislikers are god worshipers
wahtehhell 9 months ago
god can't help amputees but science can
8peregrint8 9 months ago
I cant help but thinking that the ethics of this event are slightly awry... I am mindful of the pain that these poor creatures have experienced in the name of scientific or rather technoligical advance....
thestrid82 9 months ago
@thestrid82
"technoligical advance" huh?
Wow. You do know that it's just a couple electrodes right? It's doesn't hurt the monkey and it's being well fed with treats for around 8 hours a day.
OntDinRS 8 months ago
i wonder what the monkey is thinkin
elliments 10 months ago
You know, that monkey does't look too uncomfterble, I mean its eating marshmellows. I don't think eating marshmellows with an oversized, extreamly strong metal arm is much of a hell.
LifeInABox100Years 10 months ago
FUCK I WANT A ROBOTIC ARM HELL YAH
tehcexymeowmix 10 months ago
0:44 homer simpson?
ShadowGKCP 11 months ago
Wow my comment was completely turned into some kind of philisophical or religious remark. iwas just pointing out examples with out opinion... to think...or to feel as if we are lords of anything is selfish and maybe those people need pain and suffering
MochizMuM 11 months ago
reminds me of big bang ohhh yeah just like a real hand (looks at hand gets dirty idea) 5 mins later hands worn out
FTPGONZ 11 months ago
this is the way of the future
gotubeogle 1 year ago
and the next time, he learn to grab a big mac, tv controller, and grow fat and useless.
AWOL i mean
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@MsAmethyst246 and tell me exactly HOW this is cruel?
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How is this even remotely cruel? People have pet monkeys. Do you think dogs should be free of there owners? Of course not! Dogs love their owners. This monkey is probably well kept, and loved. After all, they are feeding it marshmallows. And the expirement here isn't hurting the monkey in any way. Plus, he's helping us create a new prosthetic arm. What's worse: A) giving a "pet" monkey sweets in return for testing an arm, or B) having some 15 year old go through life without an ar
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lutherarao 1 year ago
as long as we don't end up with a 28 days later scenario i'm g for this lolz
you go monkey!
Guinessroxs 1 year ago
But proportionally, monkeys already have more upper body strength than humans. They'll be unstoppable with cyber-mega-robot arms. They'll be able to hurl poo with deadly force!
mindcontrolmonkey 1 year ago 17
It wont be long before the taliban have robot monkey suicide bombers!
mmaaxx1198 1 year ago
@mmaaxx1198 yeah, or the italians
polosecki 1 year ago
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fake and physiologically impossible
zbotto 1 year ago
@zbotto They've been borging monkeys for years now. Scientific American did a writeup on walking experiments at Duke University with back in 2008. Google is your friend!
toktorill 1 year ago
@zbotto I was just @ the University of Michigan looking into going there for biomedical engineering and one of the senior research people explained the science of it (they used this video as an example of one aspect of stuff they do) . It is totally LEGIT stuff.
cvillefootball33 1 year ago
So that's what happened to Annie's Boobs. At least they're not feeding him cheap Caviar.
CuervoBlack06 1 year ago
Guys need to stop feeling for the monkey. Seriously. You benefit every day from the efforts of people who did things you may or may not have liked before you were born and in the future. This world has so much to thank for science like this. This kind of research will change how we interact with electronics, networks, communication. This monkey is doing more for humanity than most of US ever will. You shouldn't feel sorry, you should be jealous. He's far more valuable than you know.
strikerk 1 year ago 44
@strikerk how is this going to advance how we interact with electronics? i dont know about you, but i dont want electrodes implanted in MY brain.
dieselboy87 1 year ago
@dieselboy87
Yeah, you might not. But what about the man in Iraq who lost both arms in an explosion? Maybe he would like to eat a banana one day out of his own will too. How about the capability for people to drive better, or operate machinery at a distance by just thinking about it? How would you like to imagine a picture someday and draw it on a screen for all to see? Understanding the way the brain interacts with the body, will help us interact with future technology and the world itself.
strikerk 1 year ago
@strikerk The monkey is a true hero! For sure.
brunofporto 1 year ago
@strikerk
yeah! besides, since when do monkeys not like marshmellows? NOM NOM NOM
QuipyGirbo 1 year ago
@strikerk Just like there was more techonolgical advancements after the nazis experimented on the jews. Pain and suffering is the price for technology! WOOT!
MochizMuM 11 months ago
@MochizMuM Pain and suffering is the price of living. When you die, a child is born. Hopefully that child is born with something in this world that you yourself did not have. That's the progress and evolution of society. We are the lords of our domain~ and if we don't take control of it, then we leave life in the realm of superstition and chance.
strikerk 11 months ago
@strikerk yea be respectful the monkey overlords are coming into power.
duvalbob 10 months ago
@strikerk in my mind they should also use child abuser, murderer and so on. so they would be useful in a kind.
moxigen 8 months ago
@moxigen Real civilization only starts when people can get over primitive feeling of vengeance like you're writing down there.
Blahb27 7 months ago
@Blahb27 primitive feelings? f can´t be primitive only how u act is crucial. even revenge isn´t primitive it is essential for the sense of social justice.
apart from that i wrote that people which are a danger for the society should be used for experiments so that the costs they are producing could be cancelled and they also bring an advantage for other people. it would be more effective too. you could do this voluntary accord to more privileges for example.
if u would use disabled u were right.
moxigen 7 months ago
@moxigen Well dr. Mengele, no matter how you wrap it, I'm still going to disagree with you. It's still unethical to discard thousands of human beings regardless of circumstance.
Blahb27 7 months ago
@Blahb27 keep it technical. i am not mengele and i don´t endorse what he has done! there is a big difference between useless torture of innocent people and target oriented medical research. in your mind animals are inferior living being or what?! today we still use sentient creatures instead of cell cultures just because it is not ethically correct to use these human cells. that is primitive! in my mind a mouse or an ape have more rights to live without pain than a human like dr. mengele and co.
moxigen 7 months ago
@moxigen That's not true. Wherever possible, non-concious alternatives are used, even if those are way more expensive than a test animal.
Besides, what's so wrong about my comparison? He selected on an ethnic group, you select on a group who alledged did something wrong. Both groups could easily contribute a lot to society, but wouldn't be given the chance by being used for research. If you don't like the Mengele comparison, perfectly understandable, than it's time to change viewpoints.
Blahb27 7 months ago
@Blahb27 oh sure you would rehabilitate a man who had raped and killed your daughter so that he can be a productive member of the society. if you don´t understand the different between the torture of someone only because he belongs to any group of people and someone like above..between innocent and guilty people..you should review your mind.
i know examples were cell cultures has been used, but also some were scientist criticised public that it was prescribed to use animals instead of cells.
moxigen 7 months ago
@strikerk in order to be successful in anything, you need to be able to see both sides of a story. all anyone else is saying is that the monkey doesn`t give a shit about the great things that this work is doing, because he doesn`t have the cognitive ability to understand it, same reason humans are able to take advantage of him in using him in experiments such as this one. so yeah, its perfectly okay to feel sorry for him AND be proud of the advances made because of him.
slushpuddle11 1 month ago
Lol at the sneaky camerangle in order to hide the big-ass cable coming out of the back of the monkey's head.
dkyx 1 year ago
sucks for the monkey
2Nyce4dagame 1 year ago
róbcie sobie eksperymenty na ludziach!!!
tullia11 1 year ago
awesome!!
1Mafioso4 1 year ago
jesus christ. fuckin bestards
socialPUREchaos 1 year ago
hell yeah i want a giant robot arm .... but i also want it the lazer cannon option
midgety1 1 year ago
poor animals i hope they are not kilking them
StL87 1 year ago
What the hell. A monkey can do it, but we can't? Why can't we see the big bulky machines? Huh?
TheGamaSannin 1 year ago
wtf
waltwhitman92 1 year ago
poor monkey )
OXOTHUK101 1 year ago
0:10 - 0:13...monkey's expression...LOL
amucotty 1 year ago
Why does it take weeks for monkeys to learn this, but it would "still take years" for humans?
masterxilo 2 years ago
human brains are more complex...also it would take years to justify human testing.
jackbeep22 1 year ago 3
Did they cut the monkey's arm off or did they just stick electrodes to it?
Phyerbyrd 1 year ago
Because government have deemed human testing unethical and hence illegal. Too bad because there are people, like me, who would volunteer in a heartbeat. I WANT TO BE A CYBORG!!!!
peacenlove4every1 1 year ago 3
@masterxilo
Try giving the humans boobs instead of marshmellows and they will learn it in about 4 minutes.
Jaiyeson 1 year ago
I know can believe anything
leviterande 2 years ago
to say cloning or robotics is "unnatural" is a fallacy, because everything is "natural" if created by humans, which are "natural" beings. who is to say it is not our right to use the tools before us?
Necromonger27 2 years ago
There are more meanings to the word "natural" my friend.
ObliviuxProductions 2 years ago
your words confuse me ima read through em again oh......i got da words but wtf r u tryin 2 say o.o
asdasasefasd 2 years ago
LOL
"i am Cyborg Monkey "
"bow before my robotic limbs!!!"
themanofpower125 2 years ago 2
This is soo cool.
lankablanc 2 years ago
@Schilcote
It says implanted. Monkeys are religous Icons in some places. This is torture. And they do have feelings and emotions. Humans aren't that great dude. In fact animals show more compassion on a whole than humans. Your just too tied up in believing what other people say. I would rather be on a planet with only animals. Than to have no animals on a planet with only people. People screw up everything. Humans are clueless of nature and just make stuff up as they go. Clueless. cow
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
Humans aren't that great? Get a fucking clue. We are dominant because we are by far the most intelligent and innovative species on the face of the planet, and yeah, we are the most capable of showing compassion, too.
Show me a study that shows a single animal species that is "more compassionate" than a human being, because right now, you're just coming off as a bitter nerd who got beat up in High School and has problems letting go of the past.
GrayRace82 2 years ago
@GrayRace82
No they ain't. In fact humans are the biggest liars there are. They use a belief system to create a wall of deceit against anything that is better than them. You don't dominate anything you useless punk. They all are more compassionate than humans even snakes and scorpions. Snakes don't have freezers full of meat. In fact they live such a docile lifestyle they sustain on less meat than a human. You meat eating freak. They were doing fine before they made humans. Their sacrifice.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
Humans are the "biggest liars there are" because we have the brain capacity to do so. The idea of a snake or scorpion being able to show even a shred of "compassion" with their limited cognitive abilities literally made me laugh out loud. Animals can't express themselves to the extent that we do, but there is definitely deceit in the animal kingdom, unintentional or not.
Too bad you'll never recognize that, because you're a self-hating douchebag. You don't eat meat? Nobody gives a fuck.
GrayRace82 2 years ago
@GrayRace82
So inanimate objects can have emotion but not animals. The animals I dont' eat care about it. Whether you can ever prove any of your self applied theories or not is irrelevant. Your episodes of wild kingdom or animal planet will never have truth about life. The truth would ruin all theories. Thus making humans unnecessary which is the truth. Your unnecessary. No matter how important you try to make yourself. This planet DOESN'T need humans.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
You are batshit insane, you know that?
GrayRace82 2 years ago
you do realize that you yourself is in fact a human? you're saying that you're unnecessary, unless you're some kind of super robo monkey that got loose and learned to talk shit on youtube. maybe you dont realize that the cellphone in your pocket or the computer that you're using was created by these so called unnecessary meat eating freaks of humans. why dont you go tell a lion somewhere to quit eating meat and tell me what he says...
easymacncheez 2 years ago
@easymacncheez Life on planets. Must be easy for a human like yourself. Not having your DNA messed with by a being from another planet. Say for instance that all life on earth died several times over infinity. The other planets also had life and died enough times. Meanwhile while everything is dead one of the other planets land here and screw with our life forms that are laying dormant. Life form meaning their intelligence can find our beginnings and alter them into things like animals.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
@easymacncheez And you end up in that cage or zoo or experiment or dinner table only seeing all of you children slaughtered by someone like yourself. Then what Mr. Live on what other people tell you the truth is. We live in the middle of nowhere on a planet.And all dirt in the universe is from things that have died. That means all planets at one time had life.And before they died by whatever means they tinkered with other planets just because they wondered what if.Next time you'll be in a cage
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
so what you are saying is that we are cannibal aliens from another planet sent here to destroy life with experimentation, zoo's and dinner? i have heard many different ways we got here and i choose to believe things for myself by living and learning. beliefs are always changing but facts stay the same. if everything is dead, no life on earth, how would they experiment on dormant life? dormant life cant exist if everything is dead.
easymacncheez 2 years ago
@easymacncheez
Another planet in our solar system came here. To alter our life forms. They altered the DNA of humans to become animals. Only we weren't around. And if you don't believe life can't come from dirt. Where does dirt come from. Dirt comes from things that have died. But there are still elements in the dirt that contain things that can produce life. That is where life comes from and where it goes. The process of life starts all over again when everything dies. Just another way.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
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@krrrruptidsoless "And all dirt in the universe is from things that have died." Shut up your bullshit theorys or show us some facts .... if you dont know what are you talking about dont talk at all...
cirvis240 2 years ago
That's unfair of you to say. On a small scale, many other animals contribute to the degeneration of an environment. Mostly insects, like ants and locusts. Relatively speaking, the planet in its entirety is no less influential to universal environment than a small patch of forest being grazed by a colony of termites. Humanity isn't special. We're just an animal, and trust me, just because Cows haven't invented to automobile, doesn't mean humanity is unnatural for doing so. It's our nature.
Virginityrocks 2 years ago
@Schilcote There was a guy 4 to 5 years ago doing this. In other words you don't need monkeys, humans are doing this. A guy volunteered to have this done and it was working on him. So this is unnecessary on animals. In fact they had a hand made and the guy was moving the fingers.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
@Schilcote So you know how a monkey thinks. The plates in peoples heads came from necessity because of accidents and things. How many people do you know that would say sure put a plate in my skull that is working properly to see if I can move a freakin robotic arm. The inserts in the monkey are for some stupid ass experiment. Put them in your brain if you need this so badly. I have you scheduled for tomorrow. Have fun.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
pobre monito :(
ElyUNFV 2 years ago
too much aminal test, right?
longtada 2 years ago
Enough animal testing. There was a guy that volunteered himself for this a couple of years ago. So why the monkey who didn't. Now you have just created a psychosis in this monkey. They will unplug him and he won't feed himself. He will look at others arms and think he can move them. Oh the humanity. Stop animal testing.
krrrruptidsoless 2 years ago
@krrrruptidsoless uhm, are you aware that this is an invasive test? that means they opened his skull and put microchips on his brain to read the signals. they hid it quite good in this video.
but this monkey is going nowhere aftrer this test
ZivkoC 2 years ago
It's a fucking monkey ffs, stop being such a bleeding heart. This monkey would have had absolutely nothing to contribute to the world had it not been for its taking part in this groundbreaking experiment. Whiny hippies like you do nothing but complicate things needlessly.
If you're so worried about "saving" the bloody animals from this testing, why don't you sign yourself up in their place?
GrayRace82 2 years ago
so because the monkey contributes nothing to society it is worthless? what have you contributed to society? if you havent contributed anything, then are you as 'worthless' as the monkey?
to me it is about the fact that the monkey is a being as well, not a lifeless object for us to manipulate.
diddlybop 2 years ago
I HAVE contributed to society, unlike those who have spent their lives rallying against technological progress by typing misinformed rants opposing animal testing on the internets. The animals that are used for testing aren't a part of an endangered species, and they're treated much better than they would be if they had to fend for themselves in the wild. They're given food and shelter by these "awful" humans, whereas fellow monkeys would more than likely steal their food and leave them to die.
GrayRace82 2 years ago
i didnt say you havent contributed to society, i said 'if' 'cause you are a complete stranger.if someone kept you locked up in a cage with food, would it be better than living your life, where other humans could attack you and compete against you? i didnt say anything about stopping technological advancement, the point im stressing is that these monkeys have lives too, and in the post you made it seemed like you were referring to these beings are completely dispensable and otherwise worthless.
diddlybop 2 years ago
Incredible.
TonyBtheEG 2 years ago
I think its awesome, eventually we will have the little electro nodes in our brains on small plates and can control stuff wirelessly, by 2020 this shit could be possible...
Phoxly 2 years ago
curse robots.
annabell759 2 years ago
For progress, sacrifices are made. That monkey doesn't look like it's suffering (unless you consider sugary treats torture)
Lijacote 2 years ago 2
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loving the craftily placed metal bar that hides the fact the top half of his skull missing and there's a ribbon cable going into a (poorly) placed set of circuits wired on the monkeys brain (you'll find the pics if you google them)
there's two sides of the coin.
Guinea pigs will die if you give them penicillin, which for mankind was a massive leap foreward in medicine.
Yet that didnt stop us using guinea pigs to test thalidomide which was fine for them, look how that one turned out for us...
smeghead666 2 years ago
so what? you saying we need to test on humans? i don't know about you but i have a life that i don't want cut short by experimental stuff. you go for it if you want but i'm willing to toss a couple lemmings in the way to get a ballpark on things.
anonymous549 2 years ago
Well, you think the ribbon cable is a bad idea, do you? How do you expect the signals to get transferred, hm? wirelessly?
TheImposer 2 years ago
THATS AWESOME
and i love the music in the end and the beggining
ipwnz123 2 years ago 3
For many scientists the gold standard is getting published, which in turn generates grant money. Animal research is often used precisely because results can be manipulated (ie, animal research proves and disproves cigarettes cause cancer depending on whose funding the study; UCLA or Philip Morris) Animals endure having their brains sawed open, being paralyzed, burned, infected with disease, force fed chemicals etc- no law requires sedation and scientists claim it interferes with results.
FriedaFoxworth 2 years ago 2
a shit load of stuff interferes with results. would you like to volunteer for something like this? if not then shut your trap.
anonymous549 2 years ago
They've been doing this experiment for years with no practical application for humans: they've been able to cure cancer in rats for decades; the problem with animal research is results don't extrapolate to humans because we are too dissimilar; even in the case of primates who share 99% our DNA but not enough to be relevant to humans. Chimpanzees can't get the same strain of HIV humans do, yet we continue to try and infect them and extrapolate results.
FriedaFoxworth 2 years ago
O___O where can I buy one of these marshmalllow eating monkeys?
kudohazama 2 years ago 13
lol ebay
noggyd120 2 years ago
there is too much inteligence in monkeys, to practice these sort of experiments. You heartless bastards
COD4no1 2 years ago
how is having electrodes implanted in his brain not mean or painful? To the people who think its not painful then why don't you volunteer to cut your skull open and put metal electrodes in your brain with no anaesthetic?
FriedaFoxworth 2 years ago
not mean because the electrodes dont really have to be very big, they could be as thin as human hair. And where does this video say they did not use local anasthetic? Thats all youd need for any brain surgery, they do not put you under for brain surgery, they keep you talking while the doctor works so they know he hasnt diced up special parts of your brain, like motor function or 3d thinking. Its very cool and could be a huge gain for those who need prosthetics.
Blue24U 2 years ago
how do u know they put no anaesthetic? i never thought of that , although i dont think that would humane. ???????? so many questions ???????
bannaloverx25 2 years ago
He said no law requires sedation.
Even if this were actually true, nobody would do brain surgeries without sedation, since things in pain generally move around. Even if you tie them down, they still twitch. Brain surgery is perhaps the most precise surgery there is (your instruments need to be guided by a frame that's actually screwed to the patient's skull), so nobody would risk the monkey twitching and messing up the work that's been done so far.
littlegrabbiZZ9PZA 2 years ago
Not mean but it shows monkeys are smart.
myg0tpurepunk 2 years ago
Fuck you, New Scientist for promoting such wasteful, horrific experiments. This frankenstein science is unethical, not to mention pointless. How about a follow up experiment implanting electrodes in the researchers brain? Dickhead.
FriedaFoxworth 2 years ago
Stupid hippy.
deridex120 2 years ago 2
Pointless? I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of where new technology comes from. How do you suppose knowledge learned from experiments like this could be used? Fully functional robotic replacement limbs for people who have lost their arms and much more.
sirachman 2 years ago
@ FriedaFoxworth how the hell is this a wasted experiment? This could be an awesome breakthrough for people who lost there arms. Or are paralized.
rutix 2 years ago
Will humans ever have the kind of real humility & selfessness & respect for the others needed to avoid making the frank n stein option the preferred outcome...?
phucknose & sometime hoo-cares...?
BOREDUMBAS 2 years ago
human nature will never change. as a result, scientific breakthroughs are just something people are going to have to get used to.
deridex120 2 years ago
BIG DEAL
Even i can move something with the power of the mind if i be STARVING
What these guys do with the monkeys that's absurd.
Johngu1tar 2 years ago
LOL prove it.
sirachman 2 years ago
That is so damn cool :o.
I am 16 now, so i guess i will see much more of this in my lifetime :)
TanTanz1992 2 years ago 3
or jou may get killed by robo monkey mutants. AND stuff like that.
WHATFUCKLOL 2 years ago
It seems in its brain the right hand is "connected" with the robotic arm. Whenever the monkey grabs the food, it turns the right hand clockwise shortly before the robotic "fingers" close. So it doesn't seem there to be a fifth "limb control center", but it's a reuse. Maybe with more training and time to let the brain "rewire" it can really be independent.
polyatheist 2 years ago
I really would love to see the monkey throttle the scientist with the arm. Now that would be entertainment.
BHT195 2 years ago
That looks easy. And they say it'll take us more time to get used to it when we have a bigger brain, humans rock
BluePyromaniac 2 years ago
ccccccccccccccooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllll
Mulch96 2 years ago
the monkey is fine and this is more important anyway.
sharpie443 2 years ago
yea fuck scientist. why you dont test it yourself?
brementube 2 years ago
POOR MONKEY!!!
FUCK SCIENTIST
byomark 2 years ago
SCOOR FIENTIST MUCK PUNKEY
ShallowThoughts 2 years ago 5
hahahahha
rikklaw 2 years ago
for gods sake, stop mistreating the poor animals....
peterscoop 2 years ago
Theres talk about using this technology in the new Nintendo Wii thats coming out soon
DeathrowNZL 2 years ago 2
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what the fuck? Upside down?
manateeman1 2 years ago
poor monkey!
DMCpro6944 2 years ago
OH NO THE MONKEY IS RETRIEVING MARSHMALLOWS AND EATING THEM!!
You Bastards!!!
neo93536 2 years ago 5
lol totallykenapwn.
caligrapher 2 years ago
Haha! good one :)
daivondays 2 years ago
Seriously... he is obviously not in pain. and he get free marshmallows out of it.
i'd damn near do it myself if i liked marshmallows as much as he does.
neo93536 2 years ago 2
does anyone knows if this research is in any sci journals?
Nades129 2 years ago
You mean like NewScientist? ;)
BlkRider 2 years ago
This is amazing news.
GuyGuysly 2 years ago 2
the planet of the robo apes is coming!
snarper 3 years ago
Lol
AZURA888 3 years ago
Surely this robo monkey will destroy us all!
professors84 3 years ago 13
lololol
gettoroc 3 years ago
some serious technophobe
ps3jamesman666 2 years ago 2
why dont they show the top of the monkeys head huh. MUTHAFUCKAS
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
GOOD POINT PrinceDime. They intentionally don't show the top of the head because they've hacked it open and and implanted a shitload of wires.
You can actually see the wires suspended above the monkey's head throughout the clip. The dangling gray wires move in sync with the monkey as he turns his head.
Masowai 3 years ago
omfgs :O
Jptoutant 3 years ago
Monkeys Rule!
Heck Monkey Robot are way cooler!
Hooray for science! Robotic Prosthesis rocks!
No more Plastic arms and legs!
moonsugarsnorter 3 years ago
Marshmallows make great motivation for monkey robots.
Psychochaos3 3 years ago 3
Yeah, you got to hate those handicaped poeople.
Elvenass 3 years ago
great vid again,love this channel, makes me feel smart
lazymornings 3 years ago 3
poor poor monkey i hate you smart assholes
chigebu 3 years ago
I know they probably didn't even make it a new skull cap. But I dont know how they can even put the things in the monkey like that.
SoraRoxasdude1 3 years ago
Although I do agree that animal experimentation is unpleasent it is also very needed. If hooking a monkey's brain to a car battery is going to help amputees in ten years I have only one thing to say, "The red is positive and the blue is negative".
popecorkyxxiv 3 years ago 2
I like how they discreetly block the camera's view of the top of the monkey's head so the viewer can marvel at this technological feat without having to see the distressing tubes and shit sticking out of its skull.
unsightly 3 years ago 5
lol yea
SoraRoxasdude1 3 years ago
wow the end of the world is not at far away
croteaum 3 years ago
No it is not the end of the world, it is the end of the world as we know it. The transhumanist future, the Singularity, is coming faster each and every day. Before long I predict a branching of life akin to the precambrian explosion, however unlike that great branching of life this one will not be dictated by the demands of survival, this new Evolution Revolution will be dictated by our will, our desires. We will be able to become what we choose to be as opposed to being what we are.
popecorkyxxiv 3 years ago
And this is a bad thing why? Also, why the hell would you even MENTION singularity? that has nothing to do with the transhumanist hypothesis.
spence111 3 years ago
I do not mean AI singulatiry, I mean Technological Singularity in relation to the tranhumanist agenda. Biotech, AI is a factor and in this case cyberbiotics. Hooking our brains directly to computers is a massive step forwards toward the goal for techno-godhood.
popecorkyxxiv 3 years ago
Ok, I see what you are getting at. Just one questions. Are you for or against transhumanism in the grand scheme of things?
spence111 3 years ago
I am in full support of transhumanism. I believe we must embrace the coming of the Singularity, technological and sociological evolution of man has far outpaced our biological development, to our detriment. The only viable options to resolve this issue is to embrace ludditism and go backward reversing tech/social advancement to match our biological level or to go forward and advance our biology to match our other areas of advancement. That which does not adapt is ultimatly doomed to extinction.
popecorkyxxiv 3 years ago 2
That is right on the ball. Similar to a hypothesis I had about transhumanism through nanotech "pseudo cells" that will eventually replace our biological cells. They will be adaptive, and constantly updated via the internet and extending our lifespans indefinitely.
spence111 3 years ago
That is the concept of Homo Superior, a blending of man and machine to the point there is no divisible line, organic mechanical cells. Isaac Asminov proposed that idea quite some time ago, that man was a proephet of sorts, The Island, I Robot, AI were all based on his writings. Phenomenal
popecorkyxxiv 3 years ago
Not true. They have been doing this for many years with humans.
Lawyerdude 3 years ago 5