Inside Story - Political Turmoil in Pakistan - Feb 26 - Part 1

[chick5581]

That was really put nicely together. How'd you do that? I need to learn how to do compilations on video. I want to make one for my graduating class.

[sz130]

once taliban come into power they ill be fkin u and ur mums giving u a dose of opiumum and many zaidhamids will joining them lol

[svbhatia12345]

fucker zaid humaid, r u sleeping inside ur mums asshole,

speak now u fucker

[SikhSoIdier09]

Qur'an,Surah 24,orders Mullah2flog man&woman if there is a Male Paki Muslim witness that they had illegal sex;it also mentionsAllah forgives if they stop fucking.Prophet Mohammad(pbuh) mentioned in Hadis that father should flog mother&daughter because he owns them both&it is mothers duty2raise dauhter. Father&son must make vidoes of the flogging &then they should flog each other's logs. Marrying is not a good solution because once you have children you cannot fuck in front of them.Insha'Allah.

[pokermaster10]

Reading some comments by Pakistanis on this page, it's clear to me why Pakistan has become a failed country.

While their country hangs on the cusp of disaster, Pakistanis still seem to be fixated on India & keep believing in the falsehoods which have been fed to them since birth.

If believing that India has the same problems as Pakistan, helps Pakistanis sleep better at night, good for them but the reality is quite different. Unfortunately, by the time they realize, it'll be too late!

[wileythecoyote]

its a descent into utter chaos.

[rangbajmaseeha]

pakistan has gone to the dogs

[kronikwarrier]

The Taliban leader recently threatend to take over every inch of Pakistan or atleast "we will try" were his comments. Davidinfo13 is from the state of disillusion. India sure has problems. Major ones at that. However not an inch of India is being ruled by any outlaws or separatist. When it comes to unity I bet we Indians might not be great with showing it however if some1 tries to disintegrae us or break us we will by god run them over and rout them which I am sure we have demon in te past in..

[knnan]

Yes, you said right ! India has problems because it is large and complex yet it stands by unity in diversity unlike in Pakistan. Yes, Indian unity was so evident when the Kargil conflict took place...so what happened in Pakistan could not be imagined in India. India does not create demonic systems like Pakistan in the form of the Taliban !

[mirpur1999]

fuck nawaz and zardhri. booth are fucking corrupt one way or the other.

Imran Khan should be pakistan's new leader

[inselaffe1967]

Pakistan...Home of ALL International Terrorism.

[pakistani635]

son of a bitchh motherfukkerrrr goo sukk ur momm

[inselaffe1967]

Ha ha ha ha. Upset because the Taliban run your shitty country? ha ha ha ha

[gnabeel]

You must be Indian scumbag :p

[inselaffe1967]

No mate I am British so i know first hand how backward the Pakistanis are. If you are not beating your daughters to death or murdering your wife you are blowing innocent people up. the sooner we fucking Nuke pakistan the better the world will be.

[YTvb]

The FACT is...

even after 60 yrs, Pakistan does not even have it's political foundation set.

The only argument for it's very existence is "hate India"...

.. it's just a question of time before things get from bad to worse....

[ptjoshi]

After listening to both participants, I as a neutral observer of pakistan, from India, can say that this time injustice has been committed on Nawaz Sharif.

[punjabrakha]

PPP Punjab di dushman hay, mera sara punjabi parawaan nal request hay ka sara katha ho jawo aur punjab da dushmanaan pehchano, Nawas sharif da naal ral ka Punjab di hifazat karo, wekho baki subiya wich kis tarha duja lokaan na apna apna soba di hakumat bana rakhy hay, tah punjab wich sirf punjab di hakumat kiyoon nahi, Punjabi parawoo apni takut no samjho werna yah punjab dushman log Punjab wich Punjabiyaan da jeena mushkal kerdain gay,

Jiyaa Punjab and Pakistan

Punjab Dushmana di maan di kus

[wideawake123]

Politics in Pakistan: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

Political turmoil and instabilty is a perfect breeding ground for Islamic Fundamentalist groups like the Taliban, any treaty with them is national suicide. It's a shame that Sharif is being banned. I see it as manipulation of the Judiciary by the Gov. I'm sure the Taliban has been charged with offenses, yet the Gov. has given them entire regions. Pakistan's policy is to appease the Taliban out of fear, but silence peaceful dissent.

[sameer9900]

no wonder American and Afghanistan are trying for reconciliation wnith Taliban

[wideawake123]

Let's hope Pakistan gets it's act together quickly. As I stated any treaty with the Taliban is national suicide.

[EsotericDesi]

Pakistan will eventually destroy itself... It's a nation built on hate...

[davidinfo13]

India is worse and will destroy itself first

[digitalcntrl]

Really? I don't see large swathes of Indian territory in the hands of psychopathic militants. I don't see its economy totally unravelling. And certainly don't see it having a coup every few years to install some tinpot dictator.

[davidinfo13]

India has the largest number of seperatist groups within it than any other country in the world. Look it up. Dozens of christians just got slaughtered recently by hindu militants. Ethnic, religious, regional and other forms of strife between groups is common in India. Doesn't take much for that whole thing to blow up and India knows it too

[digitalcntrl]

Considering India is second most populated country that does not mean much. Besides it is not the number of separatist groups that matter but rather the amount of problems they all create.

And If what you are saying about strife in India is true why has not Indian State lost control of its territory in the last 60+ years or have the system colloapse?

You compare that with Pakistan were it does not control huge swathes of itself, suffers from constant coups .

[davidinfo13]

There are vast territories in Canada, Russia and many countries around the world that are not under direct control of their respective governments, ..you think those countries are out of control too? It's called resource management. The border regions of Pakistan is a vast area that is hard to patrol. Even the US can't control its own boundaries and millions enter every year. You're being silly if thats your case against Pakistan

[digitalcntrl]

Huh? No one is challenging Canadian, Russian, or American sovereignty in any of your instances, some simply do not heavily patrol their vast tundra since virtually no one lives there.

In Pakistan on the hand you have entire swathes of territory that are relatively populated that have been surrendered to the taliban, the taliban collect taxes and perform other state functions. Now you are seeing an expansion of Talibistan into Swat, where the army seems incapable of defending its people.

[knnan]

Countries with vast territories have least population unlike the multi cultural, multi ethnic, multi lingual, multi- religious and so on in complex diversity as in Europe. India is like a mini-europe, but with the population, the challenge to its economic added to it by the complex diversity poses a major challenge and it has survived well within the fabric of democracy- this is admirable and unique!

[kethmanhallik3]

Considering the massive popultion of India and its ethnic diversity, separatist movements are all but inevitable. But the Indian government is in control of its territory and is able to engage with the rebels using democratic channels. Sustained violence to achieve any goal cannot be justified and the Indian government has stuck to its stand whle-heartedly. Instead of fixing its own problems Pakistan only gloats at the fact that the situation in India is not hunky-dory.

[davidinfo13]

India is not violent? Go tell that to a punjabi sikh, gujurati muslim or christians in orissa.

India is more socially vulnerable than Pakistan. The link that ties every hindu, sikh, muslim or christian in India is a weak one and for legitimate reasons. A major war with Pakistan would be the end for India as a country. Pakistan has problems too of course, but it's not the same. The vulnerabilities are in different ways

[kethmanhallik3]

Please peel your eyes and read carefully. Where did I mention that India is NOT violent internally? I am openly conceding that there are many seperatist groups. The point I am trying to make is that the Indian government is not cowing down to sustained violence and giving in to their demands. Unlike Pakistan giving in to the Taleban in Swat. And if you remember your history, it was a major war with India which ended Pakistan as a country, not the other way around.

[davidinfo13]

What does your posts have to do with my point? Pakistan may have problems which have arised due to what the Americans are doing in Afg, but the source of these problems are external to civil society. The problem with India is much more fundamental. Indian society itself is fatally flawed. When India falls, it'll be at the hands of "indians". A phrase written by a journalist sympathetic to India comes to mind, "Oh India, what has thy children done unto thee?"

[kethmanhallik3]

There was also another report written by a reporter by the times of london during the 1967 general election. "This will surely be India's fourth, and last, general election". April 2009 will see India's 15th general election. Doomsday predictions about India's unity have been around ever since 1947. There are many internal conflicts; absolutely true. But thinking of India disintegrating like erstwhile Yugoslavia or Pakistan is stretching the imagination way too far.

[mehwish92]

your view is quite simplistic. Granted India has many, many internal problems. But it would be fatal to claim that all of Pakistan's problems are external. What about Balochistan Separatist movement? Minority issues in Pakistan are just as grave in Pakistan as they are in India.

You'd be surprised how similar Pakistan and India are, in terms of their problems. It is a pity, however, that on top of all that, Pakistan also has to deal with external conflicts.

[davidinfo13]

Obviously I did not say that Pakistan does not have internal political problems. The point is that Pakistan is mostly the same in terms of religion. India is not. And it's not a country that has proven itself stable socially. You're not going to see tens of thousands of sikhs slaughtered like you saw in India some years ago. Both countries are extremely vulnerable, just in different ways.

[mehwish92]

to set records straight, about 4000 Sikhs were murdered. As much as I condemn it, and 4000 is a huge number, lets not exaggerate and say 10 000's.

I myself am a Muslim, and I know what Muslims have gone through in India. But I myself can also see the change coming about in India. The only threat to this peace between Hindus & Muslims is Hindutva groups.

As for Pakistan, I'm sure you know about blasphemy law, the state of christians & hindus in pak is also dismal.

both shud wake up now

[quirky524]

Dear David, you could not have been more worng, India is very strong and growing, while all its neighbours seems to be whithering away, India seems poised to expand and prosper.

[knnan]

Pakistan giving in in SWAT is a strategy- a ISI and Pakistani Army combine as against the civilian govt. The Army did not fight what the ISI created earlier having its sympathies yet, the pressure of the US was overbearing so by working out the surprise silly deal the army does not have to fight yet; stop the Taliban their and impress the US that they there are in control. Final analysis: a dummy strategy, but devious and undermines Pakistan within!

[knnan]

Well, when push comes to shove all are together. Yes, India is basically non-violent - Sikhs, Muslims, Christians and Hindus all live in harmony and if their is any problem..blame the political parties who drive a wedge to colonise to create a vote bank- which is serious and stupid. The people of India stand united and war with Pakistan will unite India more and see the annihilation of Pakistan !

[quirky524]

In a large country like India, few incidents have happened and its all forgotten here. Only outsiders like you remember them. People of India have made peace and moved on.

[oceanbound222]

Within the next year, the US will claim Pakistan is out of control and will then go in and take over the gov't and steal all their nuclear technology. That is the American/Izraeli goal !!

[addictfan]

Why should that be an American or Israeli goal? I'm not saying your wrong, I do believe the US wants to have more influence in Pakistan. But the nukes are in military control. I think Pakistan would have to openly work with taliban fighters and openly support terrorism for the US to justify going into Pakistan. Which might not be too far off considering the deal made with the Swat region warlords. But a war in Pakistan seems strategically impossible. Thats a whole other ball game.

[oceanbound222]

You asked, so I will tell you. Izrael will never tolerate any Muslim country to be strong and powerful. PERIOD. Thus, izrael is doing everything in its power to destabalize Pakistan so the Americans can come in and take over. Don't be so naive to think that everything that is going on is so easy to see. What is really going on is totally undercover and covert. That is on the surface is what they want us to believe, aka spin or propaganda !!

[addictfan]

I think u get me wrong here, i agree with you, Israel doesn't want any Muslim country to be modernized to western standards. I'm actually in the camp believing the mumbai attacks were planned and executed by mosad intelligence to wreck pakistan indian relations. My only disagreement would be that american public wouldn't go for another war, especially in pakistan. But obama's first ordered deaths in his pres was airstriked in pakistan, maybe the pub would go for it in a terrorist attack happened

[oceanbound222]

I don't think there will be a war. The US will put in a "care-taker" gov't in Pakistan. This new gov't will be controlled by US/Izraeli puppets.

This possiblity is being talked about by many sources with insider knowledge. This week it was reported on Informed Comment - Global Affairs. google it.  It was in a story about Swat.

[addictfan]

Maybe your right. But then again toppling governments and instating puppet regimes is an old US ploy. I'm afraid we would receive a horrible amount of what the CIA calls "blow back". I want to say your wrong, but I know what you say could be true, it's just horrifying to imagine a new proxy war in Pakistan where I'm sure we would see Pakistani youth being called to join in the fight in the homeland and abroad.

[addictfan]

Quick question for you oceanbound. Let's just say US did go to war in Pakistan and try to instate a new regime, this would be an obvious disaster and war could not be maintained in both Afganistan and Pakistan, the borders would be impossible to defend in my opinion. My question to you is that if this happened do you think it could be push for a united Muslim semi superpower state in the region? Or if US left Afganistan do you think Pakistan would push to bring it under Pakistani control?

[oceanbound222]

I don't have a crystal ball so I cannot predict the future, but the future should be determined by the region itself, not by US military force.

[DMPineau]

Actually we know how to make nukes now too.

[KhmerD0g]

paki is in turmoil big time.