that was the real meninos da villa team before neymar f*cked it up with his childish and inmature arrogance which forced the stupid board of directors at Santos to back him up instead of showing respect to Dorival Junior, which cost Santos the chance to be Brasileirão champion
Nenhum de voc~es talves entenda mas o robinho não é simplesmente melhor que messi ou que qualquer outro ele é o futebol felicidade o futebol arte quando o robinho entra em campo le nunca entra pra jogar ele entra pra humilhar ele tem santos nas veias o futebol dele é arte é alegria e eu digo isso com orgulho robinho o rei !REI !
A.C Milan just bought up Robinho for 19 million euros, now with Zlatan, Dinho, Pato AND Robinho we have the best front line in the world. Do i smell a Champions League and Scudetto double?
i think barcelona could definitely be a mistake, but at the same time it could be his big breakthrough. if he does what he has to do, with this talent.. you could be hearing his name just as much as that of lionel messi. ibra to milan is a perfect move for him too. ronaldinho ibra pato attacking trio? the world better get ready. plus they say dinho is getting back to his weight from the barca days. I'm picking Milan to win the scudetto and to get to at least the quarters in the CL. GUNNERS4LIFE.
Big breakthrough? Robinho was the leading goalscorer behind poachers Nistelrooy and Raul at Madrid and second in assists to Guti. Robinho who was always a first pick for Brazil was the most influential attacking player for Brazil in the WC, and now the current captain of Brazil. He won the MVP award in the Copa America when Messi was playing for Argentina and according to Brazilian statistics, 70 % of goals scored for Brazil since his inclusion in the team came through Robinho.
@realrasmckhaile yes, big breakthrough. Have you heard robinho being mentioned as a possible fifa world player of the year award winner? not even close. looking at his level of talent, i don't call that making a big breakthrough yet. if he had a big breakthrough you would hear people talking about him as one of the best like lionel messi, c.ronaldo etc. he's obvioously very good, but why was he at santos for the past year? no, he has not made his 'big breakthrough' yet.
Robinho was the only Madrid player, along with goalkeeper Casillas, to finish in the top ten of the Ballon d'Or and FIFA World Player of the Year nominations for 2007–08. Robinho wanted to be at Santos, City never wanted him there. C. Ronaldo is overrated, yes he score goals, but part of his populaity has to do with his commercial aspect, he can sell jerseys and products. Argumentum ad populum, read the news, people are talking about him.
@realrasmckhaile I am not denying that Robinho had a good season in 2007-2008, but it was not an exceptional season. c.ronaldo and messi both are better players at the moment. say what you want about c.ronaldo, call him overrated, a lot of people don't like (including me), but don't try to deny that he is an incredible athlete and a very effective player. much more effective than robinho without a doubt. obviously he is famous, he also scores over 30 goals a season..
How could anyone play exceptional with Caciedo and Ireland? Is C.Ronaldo exceptional playing for Portugal, Messi for Argentina? No. They thrive around good players, Messi only plays good with Xavi and Iniesta. In the Copa America when Messi represented Argentina, it was Robinho who walked away with the MVP and to say that Robinho's performance was exceptionally better than Messi's would be a gross understatement. Brazil gave Portugal 6-2 Ronaldo was terrible.
@bibiadia He was at Santos because he was sick of Manchester City and City was also tired of him so he got back to his former club and reached the top 5 of the best players in Brazil. So I agree that he isn't yet on the top in Europe for the moment, but just wait a few months (if no injury). He is now stronger thanks to the premier league and more skillfull thanks to his return in Santos last season.
And now he is in Milan with his old mates Pato, Ronaldinho and Thiago Silva...
@Balthinho Got back to his former club and reached the top 5 players in Brazil? He was already top 5 in brazil before he went to madrid.. so going back to being the top 5 in brazil after not doing too well in the premier league isn't an accomplishment. I agree he isn't at his best yet. playing at milan with the rest of amazing attacking players will be fun to watch
The EPL isn't a litmus test for who is a good player. All the English players play in the EPL, but they suck terribly on the international stage an haven't accomplished anything in the last 4 decades. Forlan in the WC 2010 was better than every English player in the last 2 decades, but he 'flopped' in the EPL right? Was C.Ronaldo's performance better than Robinho's in the WC? Robinho got 2 man of the match performances while Ronaldo was terrible.
@realrasmckhaile I'm sorry when did I say that the EPL was a test for who is a good player? I'm just stating the facts. Robinho wasn't very good in the EPL and thats a fact. Second, the english national team sucks but the EPL is made up mostly of players who are not english.. so I don't know where you're going with that argument. Third, Diego Forlan did "flop" in the EPL and that is a fact. Fact: he left the epl 6 years ago, so I don't know why you're trying to compare it with WC10 performances
So what if Robinho wasn't good in the EPL, what are you driving at? Didn't he outscore Rooney in his debut season playing with the likes of Ireland and Caciedo and wasnt he injured for 3mths in his second season and then left in January? Why is it important who succeeds or fail in the EPL. The EPL is a terribly overrated league shoved down our throats by Rupert Murdoch. It's philosophy of football is to play with 'strength', 'desire', kick and rush and play long ball.
@realrasmckhaile Okay so now you're finally admitting that Robinho wasn't good in the EPL. At least we're getting somewhere. And that's like me saying so what if Robinho is good for the Brazil national team? Say what you want about the EPL but it is the top league in the world whether you like it or not along with La Liga. Its philosophy is to play with strength, desire, long ball? No, absolutely not. No professional league has a "philosophy".
What is your definition of not being good in the EPL? Was Robinho not good when he outscored Rooney in his debut season? Was he not good because he was injured for the first 3 mths of his 2nd season? Tell me what is YOUR definition of not being good in the EPL? At what point was Robinho not good for the EPL? All the English players playing in the EPL are 'good' for the EPL, but absolutely no other team in no other league wants them, so how good are they?
@realrasmckhaile Absolutely no other team in no other league wants English players who play in the EPL? Are you mental? You mean to tell me that no teams in any other leagues wanted to buy Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Joe Cole, Rooney, etc? Keep living in a world of your own if that makes you feel better..
The conundrum of bullshit you churn out is almost too convoluted to be dignified with a response. No other team aside from English teams wants English players and this fact is corroborated with every transfer season. If it wasn't for national nepotism English players would only be playing high school football. To give an appropriate description of your BS in complete sentences, we would
You see dementia is a behavioural problem caused by negative reinforcements. Rooney, Beckham, and Ronaldo * can only strut across a stage that exists only in the dreams of those gullible enough to believe that they are actually good. Your pseudological arguments is exhausting and nonsensical and we stopped talking about football when you said Beckham is better at freekicks than Juninho. You have overstayed your welcome and look you even left a shit stain on your guest couch.
@realrasmckhaile and to answer your question about C.Ronaldo and Robinho's WC performances.. No C.Ronaldo did not perform as well as Robinho in the WC which is a tournament which lasts 1 month. Messi did not do as well either. But both of them were being double or even triple teamed most of the time. Robinho is one of my favorite players but the bottom line is that at the moment C.Ronaldo and Messi are both more effective players than Robinho. more effective doesn't mean more talented or skilled
Which WC were you watching? Messi was terribly selfish in the WC, even the commentators pointed this out. If he was double or triple teamed he asked for it. Messi can only play good with Xavi, Iniesta and Dani Alves. This is the 2nd consecutive tournament where Robinho outperformed Messi. Robinho was very effective playing for Madrid, the 2nd highest scorer behind Raul and Nistelrooy and second in assists to Guti, for a winger who didn't start regularly.
@realrasmckhaile I was watching WC 2010. Messi can only play well with Xavi, Iniesta and Dani Alves? That's obviously not true.. And Messi outperforms Robinho everywhere else.. Robinho was very effective playing for madrid? Messi was about twice as effective. 2nd highest goal scorer? Okay Messi scored 47 goals in 53 games. I don't think there is much of an argument here. didn't start regularly? well who's fault is that..
.... and Ronaldo was never double teamed in the WC. He flopped terribly was totaly absent and scored a fluke of a goal. I admit Ronaldo and Messi are better goalscorers, but in the true capacity of a footballer I don't see them better than Robinho especially Ronaldo. All Messi has going for him is a close dribbling ability, while Ronaldo has a powerful and accurate shot.
@realrasmckhaile All Messi has going for him is close control? What a weak argument.. Its his dribbling style and it works. There is a reason why he was FIFA world player of the year. Ronaldo has a powerful and accurate shot? Sure, and it works, he scores goals. Messi and Ronaldo can both do everything Robinho can, and more, which is why they are more capable footballers. Top 2 rated players in the world in the past 2 years.. there is a reason.
Messi and Ronaldo is not near skillful as Robinho. Messi gets past his markers by kicking the ball past them, Robinho takes them on. In the true definition of skill, Messi is not skillful, he is a very good dribbler but he is not the one for 'taking on players'. Ronaldo is a joke I wouldn't even dare mention him. Messi outperforms Robinho playing for Barca and Barca alone, but there is a reason why Robinho is the first pick in the most succesful team in history.
@realrasmckhaile Look who's talking about blurring the lines between fact and opinion.. Messi does not take on players? That must be a sick joke. Messi is second to none in the world when it comes to one on one ability. "Messi is not skillful"? That's like saying the world isn't round... Robinho first pick in the most successful team in history? Is it Messi's fault he wasn't born Brazilian? Now you're trying to give Robinho credit for being Brazilian? Joke. Messi is first pick in the best club.
I am an avid watcher of La Liga. Messi does not 'take on' players. Messi runs around players, he dribbles past players, he beats players with speed. My definition of 'taking on players', would be what Robinho did with his Chilean marker or with the 2 Ecuadorian defenders, what he did with the Olympiacos defense. Did you fail reading comprehension, me trying to give Robinho credit for being Brazilian? Messi first pick, since Ronaldinho left right?
@realrasmckhaile Are you a retard\? You basically were giving Robinho credit for being Brazilian because you said he was 'first pick on the most successful team in history'.. And correct me if I'm wrong but I understood this as the Brazil national team. Last time I checked Messi does not qualify to play for Brazil, if he did he would be first pick on that team. What are you implying? That Messi isn't first pick on the Brazil team, but Robinho is? Are you gonna tell me next that pigs can't fly?
Again you show signs of poor reading comprehension, with the Brazil and first pick argument. I will not waste further time on that because it is obvious you could fail a Rorschach test.
@realrasmckhaile You are obviously retarded because you say one thing then immediately go against it. According to your argument this makes perfect sense. But clearly its too much for your undeveloped brain to handle. its fine.
@realrasmckhaile One example is when you mentioned Robinho being first pick for the Brazil national team in comparing him to Messi. This is obviously irrelevant because Messi isn't Brazilian. What were you implying? That is my question. Go sit down, in a quiet environment where you may actually be able to put decent thoughts together without too many distractions and when you are ready get back to me. I will be waiting. This should be interesting.........
You said Messi is the first pick for Barca, wasn't this irrelevant because Robinho doesn't play for Barca.
Ronaldhino since the 06 WC has never played better than Robinho. I am not biased to either players, I will sit here and say Ronaldinho was far superior to Robinho. Since the 06 WC and I have watched every single match, Robinho is always better.
@realrasmckhaile Okay now we are getting somewhere. Saying Robinho was first pick for Brazil was irrelevant, and me saying Messi is first pick for Barca is irrelevant as well.. I only said it so you could actually realize this. And what was the point of saying Messi was only first at Barca after Ronaldinho left? Ronaldinho was by far the best player in the world at his prime at Barcelona, and this includes with the Brazil national team.
@realrasmckhaile Messi definitely does take on players. He also dribbles past players, but he definitely takes players on. Why don't you give me more specific examples of when Robinho took on Chilean and Ecuadorian defenders? And yes, once Ronaldinho left. What's your point? Robinho first pick for Brazil? Yeah since Ronaldinho and Kaka got unfit right?
Messi does not take on defenders end of argument and we can agree to disagree on this. Only Ronaldhino plays the same position as Robinho so the Kaka argument doesn't make sense. Ronaldhino prior to the WC had a lovely season FOR MILAN but for Brazil his performances since the 06 WC is way below that of Robinho. I watched the entire qualifications and friendlies but Ronaldhino sucked for Brazil, hence the reason why Robinho was picked over him.
@realrasmckhaile Ronaldinho and Kaka don't play the same position? And you mean to tell me you pay attention to world football? Ronaldinho and Kaka both play as attacking midfield players. For Brazil his performances were way below that of Robinho? You mean in the few matches he was actually played in, where he in fact played better than Robinho? Robinho was not picked over Ronaldinho.. don't imply that Dunga had to take one or the other. You have a bad habit of implying nonsense.
Ronaldinho and Kaka don't play the same position, you are using the term attacking midfielder broadly. Kaka is a central attacking midfielder. Ronaldhino was and is always a left sided attacking midfielder. They tried playing Ronaldhino in the central trequartista role for Milan and it just didn't work. Ronaldhino asked to be excused from many games including the Copa America and has only scored 2 goals in competitive games for Brazil which were penalities in the Olympics.
@realrasmckhaile Ronaldinho and Kaka do play the same position. Though Ronaldinho can ALSO operate from the left side. For a lot of his time at Barcelona he was playing as a central attacking midfielder.
No, never. He was always on the left side, continue making an ass of yourself. Deco and Xavi operated in the midfield. Messi only became popular after Ronaldhino left. Since the 06 WC, I guess it affected him mentally, Ronaldinho's performances waned. According to Brazilian statisctics, 70% of goals scored for Brazil came through Robinho. Robinho is a playmaker first.
@realrasmckhaile hahahah you're the only one making an ass of himself. Deco, Xavi and Ronaldinho all operated in the middle you fucking clown. Yeah, believe it or not, its possible to play with 3 in the middle. Ronaldinho played center attacking midfield. Messi started becoming popular since the 2005-2006 season, and then even more so the season after when Ronaldinho in fact was still there. Get your facts straight. Robinho only started getting minutes after WC06... You fool.
The world thinks Ronaldo is good, this is a lie. The 'world' does not think he is good. He does have many fans, but to use the word 'world' is an outright fallacy, argumentum ad populum.
@realrasmckhaile Obviously I don't literally mean everyone in the world thinks Ronaldo is good. The fact that you even took that literally is shocking. But let me rephrase that: The vast majority of people who have knowledge about football can admit that C.Ronaldo is a high quality player.
The vast majority again sir, argumentum ad populum. You are in no position to speak for the vast majority. The only place I see people liking Ronaldo the fake one, is here on youtube. Never came across a single soul who likes him. Please learn how to argue. Ronaldo is a god goal scorer yes, we've been over this, but apart from that, the antics that he pulls of on the field which is described as skill by people who have no knowledge of footabll, is not skill.
@realrasmckhaile Well you sir, are in no position to speak for the people on youtube. And again, I never said that Ronaldo had amazing 'skill', we've been over this. But he is a better footballer than Robinho because he is more effective. You need to learn how to argue and to not do what you accuse others of doing, in other words, not be a hypocrit. Only on youtube you see people who think he is good? How about the best coaches in world football? Or do they not have knowledge of football either?
I wasn't speaking for the people on youtube, when I said only on youtube I see people who like Ronaldo. You definitely failed reading comprehension. Ronaldo is not a better footballer than Robinho. Your deciding factor that Ronaldo* is better is because he has scored more goals and won awards. Cannavaro won the Ballon D'or and player of the year as a defender and I can safely assume he was outscored by many forwards. Coaches have a way of being 'diplomatic', you should learn that.
@realrasmckhaile So who were you talking about then? The people that aren't on youtube? You might seriously be retarded after all. My deciding factor is not just that Ronaldo scores more goals, but that definitely adds to the argument. The fact that you're bringing Cannavaro who is a center defender into an argument involving wingers just shows you're running out of ideas. No kidding Cannavaro won't be scoring more than forwards... You're an idiot.
Loololl. You are the biggest idiot I have ever argued with. I said the only place I see people who say that Ronaldo is good, is here on youtube, that is not speaking for 'everyone' on youtube.
You made the point that Ronaldo and Messi is better because they score more goals and was voted the best. I used Cannavaro because in his capacity of his defensive abilities he was voted the best, you idiot.
@realrasmckhaile If you're telling me the only place you see people say Ronaldo is good is here on youtube I question where you get your info.
'In the capacity of his defensive abilities'. You idiot, how is this relevant in any way? I didn't need you to tell me that a central defender was awarded for his 'defensive' abilities. What is your point? Ronaldo and Messi play the same position as Robinho (attacking positions) and they contribute more to their respective teams. Its not rocket science
@realrasmckhaile You are truly a dumbass. And obviously I knew Cannavaro won the award... are you kidding? Cannavaro who is a defender obviously contributes with his defending, and in some cases defenders can contribute going forward. We are talking about players who play wing/forward. Are you going to measure their contributions based on how well they defend or how much they contribute going forward? Don't make this more complicated than it is. Its very simple.
Do not blur the lines between fact and opinion. That they were nominated was based on the majority opinion. Robinho is the most skillful player alive today. I admit Messi and Ronaldo are better goal scorers, but they are nowhere as skillful as Robinho. Robinho completely outperformed Messi in the Copa, and this is why Robinho walked away with the MVP award, and Robinho outperformed Messi in the WC and Messi sucks for Argentina, while Robinho is always Brazils most effective player.
@realrasmckhaile Okay the FIFA world player award is obviously based on opinion. But there is a reason why the majority vote went to Messi and Ronaldo. And I never said that Robinho was not as skillful if not more skillful/talented than those two. That is a different topic. What I said is that they are better footballers at the moment. You just keep mentioning tournaments here and there with national teams where Robinho outperforms them. How about everywhere else though?
I agree that Messi Ronaldo score more goals, I am not disputing this fact and I see where your definition of 'better footballers' has to be with 'who scores how much goals'. The only team Robinho has ever played for where he was wrongly accused for being a flop was in City. His mother was kidnapped and held for ransom in Brazil, so he left for Madrid. Madrid used him as a bargaining chip to get Ronaldo and he asked to leave. City was City plain and simple no explanation there.
@realrasmckhaile Okay, Robinho didn't do well at City for whatever reason. He had family problems etc. Yes Robinho was used in order to get C.Ronaldo but what's your point? And no my deinition for "better footballer" is not necessarily who scores more goals.
@realrasmckhaile Also Robinho is not the most skillful player alive today. Ronaldinho at the same club AC Milan is by far the most skillful player, along with Ronaldo (Brazilian) playing in Brazil now.
You might have a point about Ronaldhino, but I used the word 'this day'. Have you seen Ronaldo playing for Corinthians lately, as a matter of fact, he hasn't played for a couple of months. Ronaldo is on the brink of retiring, he is immobile , can't run for ten yards and plays a one- touch game of football. He might know what to do, but his legs can't do it.
@realrasmckhaile You actually used the word 'alive'. But okay we can count Ronaldo as being retired. Ronaldinho is the most skillful player in the world.
Ronaldinho is the most skillful player. I am still on my point about Ronaldo the fake one. Ronaldo has succeeded in fooling the world that he is skillful. The one good trick he has up his sleeve was introduced to the world by Denilson in the 98 WC. His stepovers are sub-par and it doesn't get him anywhere. The nonsense he does is for aesthetic purposes only, certainly not to get him past defenders. For me he doesn't define the word skill like Denilson, Neymar, Douglas Costa etc.
@realrasmckhaile Ronaldo the fake one. No, he is definitely not as skillful as Denilson or Robinho, etc. He is just a fantastic athlete, as he is exceptionally fast and strong. I'm not arguing that C.Ronaldo has beautiful stepovers or body fakes. No, he just beats players using speed and strength. I personally like Robinho more and yes he is more skillful, better footballer? Thats a different issue because people care about effectiveness and statistics.
Drogba would be defined as a world class great. Terrific goal scorer and that's about it. Is he the best dribbler, no, does he have the best vision, no, is he skillful enough to get past 1-2-3 defenders certainly no. I like Robinho because, he has the uncanny ability to get rid of his markers, not just dribble past his markers but to 'break their ankles' to 'take them on' and feed his teammates with the ball. He is the true definition of a good footballer.
@realrasmckhaile Yes Drogba would be defined as a world class great because he is highly capable of changing a game at any moment. A lot of people would say as of now he is a better footballer than Robinho as well. You're telling me you like robinho because he is tricky. Yes, I like Robinho for this reason as well.. But you are saying that because he can "break ankles" he is the best. I don't know about that. Funner to watch and more entertaining? Yes definitely, and I'm all for that.
According to Brazilian statistics provided by Dunga, 70% of goals scored for Brazil since Robinho's inclusion came through Robinho and this is the most succesful team in football history. I do not have a designated hatred for Messi, who I admit is a very good player, but Messi is nowhere as skillful as Robinho and his best performances are playing with Xavi, Iniesta and Alves and this statement can be corroborated by thorough research if you have the time. Ronaldo sucks.
@realrasmckhaile Okay, but according to statistics on any legitimate football website, Messi scored 47 goals in 53 games. Most successful team in football history? Yes, for national teams. But where do footballers play most of their football, clubs or national? You can't blame Messi for having good teammates. What about Robinho playing with Zidane, Ronaldo, Beckham, Guti, Roberto Carlos etc? How can Ronaldo suck when he consistently puts up world class figures? 42/49, 26/53, 33/35 goal to game..
Robinho is a winger/ playmaker has been since he was in Santos. There is a reason why Robinho had the second most assists to Guti for Madrid. The fact that he didn't start every game was because of a so-called "Galacticos policy" which has nothing to do with football, hence the explanation for Beckham's inclusion in the Madrid squad. Players play in Madrid to sell jerseys not because of what they can offer to the team.
@realrasmckhaile Fair enough. But if you call Robinho a winger/playmaker as opposed to a forward, you could easily say the same for both C.Ronaldo and Messi.
@realrasmckhaile Fair enough. But if you call Robinho a winger/playmaker as opposed to a forward, you could easily say the same for both C.Ronaldo and Messi. And don't hate on David Beckham just because a lot of people happen to like him outside of football. When Madrid bought him he was a top class player without a doubt. About the "Galazticos policy" Luis Figo was no longer there and Robinho was meant to fill that role.
Robinho is instinctively a playmaker first, hence the Brazilian statistics for his team and his assists for Madrid. Messi is instinctively a selfish player, majority of his goals is from assists from Xavi, Alves Iniesta and Keita. I am not taking anything from Messi with my next point. La liga isn't know for a defensive system of football, and apart from Barca, most defenders in La liga are sub-par. Messi romped through the likes of Getafe, Almeria, Malaga I mean c'mon.
@realrasmckhaile Messi is instinctively a selfish player? Sure, but if he can score 47 goals in 53 games I'm sure they don't mind him being 'instinctively selfish'. Robinho is a selfish player as well, for sure. He just isn't capable of scoring as much, even when he was playing with the likes of Zidane, Guti, Raul, Beckham (yes Beckham, arguably the most accurate footballer ever). Most defenders in La Liga are sub-par? Sure, but Robinho didn't do nearly as well when he was at Madrid..
Beckham most accurate. LOLOLOL. I would ask you what the hell you mean by accurate and if you mean freekicks, the best freekick taker is Juninho Pernambucano.
@realrasmckhaile Best freekick taker Juninho Pernambucano? HAHAHAH first he shows he's a retard and now he is showing signs of being a comedian as well. What the hell I mean by most accurate is freekick, crossing, long balls, shooting, etc. Its pretty explanatory for people with decent brain function.
You have the I.Q. of a paramecium. No one in their right mind will say Beckham is near a good free kick taker than Juninho. Look at what Juninho did to Oliver Khan and Valdez for Barca. Beckham my ass.
@realrasmckhaile HAHAH again, using specific examples? Why don't you list every freekick Juninho has ever taken that you think is impressive? Enlighten me. You are a dumbass, humans aren't supposed to be this stupid. Beckham is without a doubt a better freekick taker than Juninho. Its not even an argument.
Beckham better than Juninho, pious minds lends true to extraordinary nonsense. Your brain is less than 500 microns in diameter, what does this mean its dust. I would advise you to not clean your ears with ostrich feathers because it has a static charge. You are such an ass every time you open your mouth a suppository falls out.
@realrasmckhaile What are you an enlightenment thinker now? Really a suppository falls out everytime I open my mouth? HAHAH you make me laugh. You have lost this argument for like the 18th time. You dimwit.
Human cognition is well set up to process distinct unambiguous concepts but with a defunct IQ this process is entirely impossible. Have you ever considered donating your brain to maritime biology to be used as a floatation device? All your incoherent drivel is a result of years of suppressed dementia which has just now succeeded in passing from your unconscious to your conscious mind. Even Abe Lincoln had a brighter future when he picked up his tickets at the box office.
Beckham like C.Ronaldo is terribly overrated. Yes Robinho was bought to fill Figo's role, and yes he wore the 10. Yes Robinho was used a bargaining chip to get the player who was considered the best at the time.
Please, bibiadia. Tell me what is YOUR definition of Robinho 'not doing good for City', I am waiting.
@realrasmckhaile MY definition of Robinho 'not doing good for City' is that he did not do nearly as well as he was expected to. Sure he did better than the average player, but he was getting paid the most in the league. He was suppoosed to do much better than he did. And don't say its because he did not have a good team around him. Other players have done much better with worse teams before. For example: Carlos Tevez with West Ham..
He was getting paid more, so he is supposed to do better? That my friend is the dumbest argument I have ever heard. So Yaya Toure is expected to perform better than Silva and Balotelli right? When Tevez joined the team Robinho was injured and went on being injured for 3mths. When Robinho scored his 14 goals he was playing with Ireland and Caciedo etc. His team sucked. He left in Jan 010 2 mths after he recoverd from injury. Tevez is a headless striker, Robinho is a winger.
@realrasmckhaile "He was getting paid more, so he is supposed to do better" That is not what I said. Do you have the logic of a child? Think about it. Its not that he's supposed to do better because he was getting paid more... The idea is that there is a reason why he was getting paid so much, because more was expected out of him. You think they just pay certain players more than others because they just like them more? You think its a coincidence that star players get paid more than others? ...
Son, Madrid sold Robinho to the highest bidder as in an auction and his wages reflected that. It is not his fault that he got paid the most and he didn't want to be at City, the guy even said Chelsea at his City unveiling.
This is your homework. Go find out why Robinho fired his agent Wagner Ribeiro who got him his biggest contract just 2 weeks after he joined City.
@realrasmckhaile First of all I'm not your son. Second of all Robinho being sold to the highest bidder has nothing to do with how much they pay the player himself in wages. Even you should know that, come on now try to keep up a little bit. Oh did Robinho want to be at Chelsea instead? Poor guy. Is that the excuse you're making up for him for underperforming in the EPL? This is your homework.. Go find out why Madrid was desperate to throw Robinho out and get C.Ronaldo. Go on.. take your time.
Robinho never underperformed in the EPL. There was no desperation on Madrid's behalf to sell Robinho.
Your random and insightful musings is infused with the dangerous presence of severe schizophrenia, descernible to the educated and even those blessed with an IQ above room temperature. Waiting for you to post something worth reading, is like waiting for the bus in a city where you're not sure they have a bus line.
@realrasmckhaile No desperation on Madrid's behalf to sell Robinho? Its either you are a retard or you're living in another planet. Wow.. Did you come up with that simile all by yourself? Stop trying to sound educated when you are clearly a dumbass. Don't waste my time with any more of your retardation please.
@realrasmckhaile Beckham terribly overrated? Absolutely not. If anything Beckham is underrated. Robinho was brought in to fill Figo's role and he was not quite able to which is why he was replaced with C.Ronaldo, who did a better job at Madrid than he did. Plain and simple.
He was not quite able to, this sir is an opinion? Robinho was Madrid's 3rd highest scorer behind poachers Raul and Van Nistelrooy and the player with the 2nd most assists, behind Guti. With Robinho's help they won 2 La Liga titles, since he left they haven't won anything. Beckham is a joke of a footballer only good for crosses and free kicks. Robinho left Madrid and after a full season Ronaldo came, to sell jerseys, as pointed out by Madrid who recouped this transfer fee in a year.
@realrasmckhaile Sure its an opinion to some extent.. Technically I could say Michael Owen is the best player ever and I could say its an opinion, no? David Beckham a joke of a footballer? You sir are a joke. David Beckham is one of the most efficient players as he is a brilliant passer, he has a nice touch, and a great shot. Ronaldo came to sell jerseys? You keep mentioning Robinho being 3rd highest scorer.. News flash: Ronaldo was top scorer with 33 goals in 35 games. not as impressive huh?
Beckham I will not waste words talking about Beckham he is not even on the radar of a good footballer.
Yes Ronaldo scores more goals, you departed from this argument trying to convince me he is better than Robinho by saying the world thinks so, now you go back to him scoring goals. Ronaldo could score a billion goals, he will still not be half the footballer Robinho is, him and Drogba. Yes Madrid has a Galacticos policy, go research that.
Selfish players will score more goals, and this fact is highlighted when Ronaldo and Alonso argued over who should take a penalty. Ronaldo had the most goals in the team and he insisted on taking the penalty over Alonso, who just wanted one goal to his name.
Pelligrini said the whole time he was there he never spoke to Perez, and it was Perez who decided who should play. From this we deduce why Robinho never started every match, because Madrid is a corporation first.
@realrasmckhaile Selfish players will score more goals? That's a fact? Now you're just getting desperate with your arguments. Would Pellegrini have started Robinho every match? What's Perez's reason for not playing Robinho all the time? Also, if I remember correctly a lot of Madrid players accused Robinho of being too sefish of a player and playing for himself. Go research that real quick.
Since the days of Del Bosque, Schuster, Capello, Ramos and Pelligrini, it was the president who decides whjo should play. Does the president spend his days on the training field with the players? The ones who play are the popular ones you numbskull.
It is safe to say you elevate stupidity into an art form. Beckham 'accurate', your pseudological arguments is exhausting and nonsensical. You would exhaust a psychiatrist's list of diagnoses.
@realrasmckhaile LOOOL again with the metaphors and similes? Keep talking your bullshit. It just shows you have nothing more to say about the topic. This argument is over, and you have lost it. You certified retard.
@realrasmckhaile Oh a Galacticos policy? Did you figure that out all by yourself? Is that another excuse you are making for poor Robinho for not getting enough minutes at Madrid? Last time I checked Figo was gone and Robinho came in, but he was not good enough to fill those boots. Oh I'm sorry, the entire world doesn't think so.. just the people who matter like the people who decide on FIFA world player of the year, etc. You could convince yourself otherwise if that lets you sleep at night.
Your defining quality is your ability to post and post non stop, cardiac BS. How you manage to leave out most of the alphabet making your way from A-Z is truly remarkable.You argue with incongruent reason, perhaps you live in world that doesn't require 3 coherent sentences in a row, sentences that read like they were written by a random word generator. When subjected to that degree of stupidity our human instincts cry out in protest.
@realrasmckhaile LOOOL the fact that you aren't even talking about football anymore proves you lost this argument. Its alright, it happens. You win some you lose some. Better luck next time. I actually thought you had a valid point in what you were saying for about 2 posts, and then I realized you're just straight up retarded.
You just said Beckham is a better free kick taker than Juninho. We definitely aren't talking football anymore. If retardation is war you are fighting dirty.
Barcelona has a certain philosophy of football, and with this philosophy it brings the best out of players. Alves great for Barca, but his performances for Brazil, even though he was played out of his position was subpar. Messi who was too played out of his position IN THE WC subpar, and too in the qualifiers where he was played in his position. Robinho, always great for Brazil i.e. in his comfort zone and Milan bought Robinho based on his performances for Brazil not City.
@realrasmckhaile Yes Barcelona does have a certain philosophy of football, but no it does not necessarily bring the best out of players. Zlatan Ibrahimovic amazing at Inter, subpar at Barca. Also, yes Robinho is always great for Braziil, but you just said it yourself.. it is his COMFORT ZONE. Why do you say Milan bought him based on his performances for Brazil and not City? Maybe because they just know how much potential he has, especially playing with Dinho, Pato, and Ibra.
@bibiadia, realrasmckhail answered to you"How could anyone play exceptional with Caciedo and Ireland? Is C.Ronaldo exceptional playing for Portugal, Messi for Argentina? " ....Ibrahimovic with sweden etc...
Btw, Quitting Brazil at the top 5 and coming back 10years after and still being in the top 5 isn't easy, I'm talking about Brazil man! there's no country with more new skilled players each years! be honnest!
@Balthinho You think playing with Caciedo and Ireland is an excuse for Robinho not playing well? Not at all. There are many examples of players playing exceptionally without good players around them. C.Ronaldo Messi and Ibrahimovic all play better for their respective countries than Robinho did for city imo.
True Brazil is one of the leagues where most young talent comes from, but it isn't that high a level. Also, Robinho didn't leave Brazil and come back after 10 years!
@bibiadia but ronaldo messi and ibrahimovic dont play exceptionally well for their countries ronaldo has one goal in 2 years with portugal messi didnt even score at the world cup which his country struggled to get to and ibrahimovic wasnt even their but they all play a lot better at their clubs when they have payers like xavi, iniesta and alonso supporting them ;)
@goodall46 Hey, you are right. Maybe they don't always play great for their countries. But how about the players who have amazing players around them that do not play well at all? It goes both ways doesn't it. Players can play exceptionally well when they don't have good players around them and players can play badly even when they have world class players around them. By the way, did you see Messi vs Spain the other day? Incredible.
Messi just started playing well Argentina. Ronaldo is terrible for Portugal no argument there, but Dunga prior to the WC said Robinho has contributed to most of Brazil's goals. Messi has never played better than Robinho for country and this can be proved with the Copa America where both players represented their country and Robinho walked away with the M.V.P. award. Sublime goals against Italy and Ireland, 2 man of the match in the W.C. and even scored a goal.
@realrasmckhaile ronaldo is doing really good atm for portugal while onn the other hand messi is still playing like shit for argentina. Messi is a player who without the best possible team cant play good, thts why he only plays good at barca
It looks like he'll be going to Barcelona now that Ibrahimovic's going to Milan...I don´t know if he can fit there..he's "a bit too skilled",very individualistic,not really hard working and he loves to go out...I'm not sure,but I think it's a mistake from both Barcelona and him,because it's really difficult for him to succeed there.
I can´t remember any Brazilian player that succeeded in Europe after having to go back to Brazil because he struggled in European teams...
@anxofarmesto no he didnt struggle in european teams bro, he was the best in manchester city he didnt struggle, it was just the injury that slowed him down, and in real madrid he was a super player every single season, he just had a argument whit the coach. thats why he went to manchester city.
Before I answer I'd like to know if you're Brazilian or Portuguese...I'm guessing you are because of your name,and I wouldn´t like to answer in English when I can do it in your language...
Eu sou galego,mas estudei português e inglês desde menino.
Do Robinho quería dizer que nao triunfou no Madrid,nunca teve um ano realmente bom...era muito individualista e sempre tinha problemas na equipa...nao encaixaba bem e os companheiros nao tinham boa relaçao com ele,nom era tampouco um jogador de fazer muitos golos.
Fui uma decepçao no Madrid e no Manchester City fez um bom ano,depois marchou a Brasil e agora nao o querem na equipa...e nunca um treinador falou bem de Robinho...por algo é.
@anxofarmesto é assim mano, eu nao sei o que te dizer, eu sinceramente acho que ele jogou mutio bem no real madrid, mesmo sem fazer golos, agora claru que é importante ele se dar bem com os colegas mas acho que nao é culpa dele, ele parece ser boa pessoa, mas prontos eu compreendo o teu ponto de vista mas eu acredito bastante no sucesso do robinho e acredito nas suas capacidades.
He scored more goals in his first season at Man City than Rooney. It was in his 2nd season at City while he was injured then the English started calling him a flop, because his injury wasn't reported in the papers. He didn't play because he was injured for 3mths and the English thought it was because Hughes never wanted him to play and he left in Jan. Rooney just went 5 mths without scoring goals but the English still thinks he is god.
@realrasmckhaile good point, but its not all about the gols, cause what makes me watch robinho, its his magical feet. how he plays, how he dribbles, his teamwork, everything is amazing, how he scores, its just incredible, for me he didnt struggle in any team, its just because he got injury problems and was used to bring ronaldo to madrid as u said. but for me robinho is my favourite player right now
He only played in 2 European teams. If he was struggling in Madrid then why would Madrid use him as a bargaining chip to get Ronaldo who was considered the best at the time? Raul and Nistlerooy are strikers/poachers, so how is it they were the only ones to outscore Robinho who was a winger? How did he struggle to outscore Rooney in his first season? Do you expect an injured playing on the bench to score goals, he was injured for 3mths in his 2nd season and left in January.
ahhh......that music, STOP IT!!!
lironbenjamin 7 months ago
gay song.....
PUR3FOOTBALL 11 months ago
robinho plays better for his country than club! but has improved alot after going to ac milan right after his loan
EujinhoTV 1 year ago
ROBINHO FOREVER <3 <3
omarrobinho14 1 year ago
that was the real meninos da villa team before neymar f*cked it up with his childish and inmature arrogance which forced the stupid board of directors at Santos to back him up instead of showing respect to Dorival Junior, which cost Santos the chance to be Brasileirão champion
lobosgotmypension 1 year ago
Quem já ouviu essa música no youtube da um positivo !
GuilhermeNaldiCS 1 year ago 2
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devabm 1 year ago
Vejam esse --> /watch?v=LHc37va01IM
fynl480 1 year ago
BRASIL !!! *-*
TheRenanRbl 1 year ago
Nenhum de voc~es talves entenda mas o robinho não é simplesmente melhor que messi ou que qualquer outro ele é o futebol felicidade o futebol arte quando o robinho entra em campo le nunca entra pra jogar ele entra pra humilhar ele tem santos nas veias o futebol dele é arte é alegria e eu digo isso com orgulho robinho o rei !REI !
granzotti1 1 year ago
robihno on plays well in brazil or for brazil , because he is the heart of brazilian football
xxcococrazyxx 1 year ago
3:57 , ROBINHO = GOD
gatorulez 1 year ago
THX BRO MORE VIDEO OF ROBINHO THX
nani17ROoney10 1 year ago
robimho 100
gleidissp 1 year ago
robinho 100% melhor que messi
gleidissp 1 year ago
robinhooooooooooo the king
naserrobinho1 1 year ago
i beg you, please change the song...
olyiac 1 year ago
What's with the new gay music the original music fit the video so well.
awilliams121187 1 year ago
whats the name of the song??
dalessandrod10s 1 year ago
Messi > Robinho > C.Ronaldo
turupu 1 year ago
That one touch flick over the defender's head...holy jesus.
by63 1 year ago 10
good video but the song creeps me out
Ddz98 1 year ago
@Ddz98 its almost tha same song for every video of my fav player i watch, pretty annoying...
xSTEEZx 1 year ago
robinho > Messi + c.Rolando + Ibra
0031361 1 year ago
robinho had a great world cup
hope he does well in milan ,he has wasted a couple years of his career at city..
Ipwnnubz117 1 year ago
who is better cristiano ronaldo or robinho?
Ddz98 1 year ago
AC MILAN RULES AC MILAN RULES FC INTER SUCKS
dogieblitz 1 year ago
@dogieblitz lol inter suck goodn
bobcat4000 1 year ago
ROBINHO DEL MILAN
BINHO-PATO-IBRA-RONALDINHO SPETTACOLO MILAN
DOCmilanista 1 year ago
Welcome To A.C MILAN
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE is OURS this SEASON
RMPATO7 1 year ago
A.C Milan just bought up Robinho for 19 million euros, now with Zlatan, Dinho, Pato AND Robinho we have the best front line in the world. Do i smell a Champions League and Scudetto double?
soccer0wnag3 1 year ago 2
loo voglioo al milaan *__*
MILITIKO22 1 year ago
i think barcelona could definitely be a mistake, but at the same time it could be his big breakthrough. if he does what he has to do, with this talent.. you could be hearing his name just as much as that of lionel messi. ibra to milan is a perfect move for him too. ronaldinho ibra pato attacking trio? the world better get ready. plus they say dinho is getting back to his weight from the barca days. I'm picking Milan to win the scudetto and to get to at least the quarters in the CL. GUNNERS4LIFE.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Big breakthrough? Robinho was the leading goalscorer behind poachers Nistelrooy and Raul at Madrid and second in assists to Guti. Robinho who was always a first pick for Brazil was the most influential attacking player for Brazil in the WC, and now the current captain of Brazil. He won the MVP award in the Copa America when Messi was playing for Argentina and according to Brazilian statistics, 70 % of goals scored for Brazil since his inclusion in the team came through Robinho.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile yes, big breakthrough. Have you heard robinho being mentioned as a possible fifa world player of the year award winner? not even close. looking at his level of talent, i don't call that making a big breakthrough yet. if he had a big breakthrough you would hear people talking about him as one of the best like lionel messi, c.ronaldo etc. he's obvioously very good, but why was he at santos for the past year? no, he has not made his 'big breakthrough' yet.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Robinho was the only Madrid player, along with goalkeeper Casillas, to finish in the top ten of the Ballon d'Or and FIFA World Player of the Year nominations for 2007–08. Robinho wanted to be at Santos, City never wanted him there. C. Ronaldo is overrated, yes he score goals, but part of his populaity has to do with his commercial aspect, he can sell jerseys and products. Argumentum ad populum, read the news, people are talking about him.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile I am not denying that Robinho had a good season in 2007-2008, but it was not an exceptional season. c.ronaldo and messi both are better players at the moment. say what you want about c.ronaldo, call him overrated, a lot of people don't like (including me), but don't try to deny that he is an incredible athlete and a very effective player. much more effective than robinho without a doubt. obviously he is famous, he also scores over 30 goals a season..
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
How could anyone play exceptional with Caciedo and Ireland? Is C.Ronaldo exceptional playing for Portugal, Messi for Argentina? No. They thrive around good players, Messi only plays good with Xavi and Iniesta. In the Copa America when Messi represented Argentina, it was Robinho who walked away with the MVP and to say that Robinho's performance was exceptionally better than Messi's would be a gross understatement. Brazil gave Portugal 6-2 Ronaldo was terrible.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@bibiadia He was at Santos because he was sick of Manchester City and City was also tired of him so he got back to his former club and reached the top 5 of the best players in Brazil. So I agree that he isn't yet on the top in Europe for the moment, but just wait a few months (if no injury). He is now stronger thanks to the premier league and more skillfull thanks to his return in Santos last season.
And now he is in Milan with his old mates Pato, Ronaldinho and Thiago Silva...
Balthinho 1 year ago
@Balthinho Got back to his former club and reached the top 5 players in Brazil? He was already top 5 in brazil before he went to madrid.. so going back to being the top 5 in brazil after not doing too well in the premier league isn't an accomplishment. I agree he isn't at his best yet. playing at milan with the rest of amazing attacking players will be fun to watch
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
The EPL isn't a litmus test for who is a good player. All the English players play in the EPL, but they suck terribly on the international stage an haven't accomplished anything in the last 4 decades. Forlan in the WC 2010 was better than every English player in the last 2 decades, but he 'flopped' in the EPL right? Was C.Ronaldo's performance better than Robinho's in the WC? Robinho got 2 man of the match performances while Ronaldo was terrible.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile I'm sorry when did I say that the EPL was a test for who is a good player? I'm just stating the facts. Robinho wasn't very good in the EPL and thats a fact. Second, the english national team sucks but the EPL is made up mostly of players who are not english.. so I don't know where you're going with that argument. Third, Diego Forlan did "flop" in the EPL and that is a fact. Fact: he left the epl 6 years ago, so I don't know why you're trying to compare it with WC10 performances
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
So what if Robinho wasn't good in the EPL, what are you driving at? Didn't he outscore Rooney in his debut season playing with the likes of Ireland and Caciedo and wasnt he injured for 3mths in his second season and then left in January? Why is it important who succeeds or fail in the EPL. The EPL is a terribly overrated league shoved down our throats by Rupert Murdoch. It's philosophy of football is to play with 'strength', 'desire', kick and rush and play long ball.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Okay so now you're finally admitting that Robinho wasn't good in the EPL. At least we're getting somewhere. And that's like me saying so what if Robinho is good for the Brazil national team? Say what you want about the EPL but it is the top league in the world whether you like it or not along with La Liga. Its philosophy is to play with strength, desire, long ball? No, absolutely not. No professional league has a "philosophy".
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
What is your definition of not being good in the EPL? Was Robinho not good when he outscored Rooney in his debut season? Was he not good because he was injured for the first 3 mths of his 2nd season? Tell me what is YOUR definition of not being good in the EPL? At what point was Robinho not good for the EPL? All the English players playing in the EPL are 'good' for the EPL, but absolutely no other team in no other league wants them, so how good are they?
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Absolutely no other team in no other league wants English players who play in the EPL? Are you mental? You mean to tell me that no teams in any other leagues wanted to buy Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Joe Cole, Rooney, etc? Keep living in a world of your own if that makes you feel better..
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
The conundrum of bullshit you churn out is almost too convoluted to be dignified with a response. No other team aside from English teams wants English players and this fact is corroborated with every transfer season. If it wasn't for national nepotism English players would only be playing high school football. To give an appropriate description of your BS in complete sentences, we would
miss out on your random senselessness.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile so true. when u think about it there are really barely any english players who dnt play in the premier league
9ronaldo7drogba11 1 year ago
@bibiadia
You see dementia is a behavioural problem caused by negative reinforcements. Rooney, Beckham, and Ronaldo * can only strut across a stage that exists only in the dreams of those gullible enough to believe that they are actually good. Your pseudological arguments is exhausting and nonsensical and we stopped talking about football when you said Beckham is better at freekicks than Juninho. You have overstayed your welcome and look you even left a shit stain on your guest couch.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile and to answer your question about C.Ronaldo and Robinho's WC performances.. No C.Ronaldo did not perform as well as Robinho in the WC which is a tournament which lasts 1 month. Messi did not do as well either. But both of them were being double or even triple teamed most of the time. Robinho is one of my favorite players but the bottom line is that at the moment C.Ronaldo and Messi are both more effective players than Robinho. more effective doesn't mean more talented or skilled
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Which WC were you watching? Messi was terribly selfish in the WC, even the commentators pointed this out. If he was double or triple teamed he asked for it. Messi can only play good with Xavi, Iniesta and Dani Alves. This is the 2nd consecutive tournament where Robinho outperformed Messi. Robinho was very effective playing for Madrid, the 2nd highest scorer behind Raul and Nistelrooy and second in assists to Guti, for a winger who didn't start regularly.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile I was watching WC 2010. Messi can only play well with Xavi, Iniesta and Dani Alves? That's obviously not true.. And Messi outperforms Robinho everywhere else.. Robinho was very effective playing for madrid? Messi was about twice as effective. 2nd highest goal scorer? Okay Messi scored 47 goals in 53 games. I don't think there is much of an argument here. didn't start regularly? well who's fault is that..
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
.... and Ronaldo was never double teamed in the WC. He flopped terribly was totaly absent and scored a fluke of a goal. I admit Ronaldo and Messi are better goalscorers, but in the true capacity of a footballer I don't see them better than Robinho especially Ronaldo. All Messi has going for him is a close dribbling ability, while Ronaldo has a powerful and accurate shot.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile All Messi has going for him is close control? What a weak argument.. Its his dribbling style and it works. There is a reason why he was FIFA world player of the year. Ronaldo has a powerful and accurate shot? Sure, and it works, he scores goals. Messi and Ronaldo can both do everything Robinho can, and more, which is why they are more capable footballers. Top 2 rated players in the world in the past 2 years.. there is a reason.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Messi and Ronaldo is not near skillful as Robinho. Messi gets past his markers by kicking the ball past them, Robinho takes them on. In the true definition of skill, Messi is not skillful, he is a very good dribbler but he is not the one for 'taking on players'. Ronaldo is a joke I wouldn't even dare mention him. Messi outperforms Robinho playing for Barca and Barca alone, but there is a reason why Robinho is the first pick in the most succesful team in history.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Look who's talking about blurring the lines between fact and opinion.. Messi does not take on players? That must be a sick joke. Messi is second to none in the world when it comes to one on one ability. "Messi is not skillful"? That's like saying the world isn't round... Robinho first pick in the most successful team in history? Is it Messi's fault he wasn't born Brazilian? Now you're trying to give Robinho credit for being Brazilian? Joke. Messi is first pick in the best club.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
I am an avid watcher of La Liga. Messi does not 'take on' players. Messi runs around players, he dribbles past players, he beats players with speed. My definition of 'taking on players', would be what Robinho did with his Chilean marker or with the 2 Ecuadorian defenders, what he did with the Olympiacos defense. Did you fail reading comprehension, me trying to give Robinho credit for being Brazilian? Messi first pick, since Ronaldinho left right?
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Are you a retard\? You basically were giving Robinho credit for being Brazilian because you said he was 'first pick on the most successful team in history'.. And correct me if I'm wrong but I understood this as the Brazil national team. Last time I checked Messi does not qualify to play for Brazil, if he did he would be first pick on that team. What are you implying? That Messi isn't first pick on the Brazil team, but Robinho is? Are you gonna tell me next that pigs can't fly?
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Again you show signs of poor reading comprehension, with the Brazil and first pick argument. I will not waste further time on that because it is obvious you could fail a Rorschach test.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile You are obviously retarded because you say one thing then immediately go against it. According to your argument this makes perfect sense. But clearly its too much for your undeveloped brain to handle. its fine.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
What did I say then go against?
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile One example is when you mentioned Robinho being first pick for the Brazil national team in comparing him to Messi. This is obviously irrelevant because Messi isn't Brazilian. What were you implying? That is my question. Go sit down, in a quiet environment where you may actually be able to put decent thoughts together without too many distractions and when you are ready get back to me. I will be waiting. This should be interesting.........
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
You said Messi is the first pick for Barca, wasn't this irrelevant because Robinho doesn't play for Barca.
Ronaldhino since the 06 WC has never played better than Robinho. I am not biased to either players, I will sit here and say Ronaldinho was far superior to Robinho. Since the 06 WC and I have watched every single match, Robinho is always better.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Okay now we are getting somewhere. Saying Robinho was first pick for Brazil was irrelevant, and me saying Messi is first pick for Barca is irrelevant as well.. I only said it so you could actually realize this. And what was the point of saying Messi was only first at Barca after Ronaldinho left? Ronaldinho was by far the best player in the world at his prime at Barcelona, and this includes with the Brazil national team.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Messi definitely does take on players. He also dribbles past players, but he definitely takes players on. Why don't you give me more specific examples of when Robinho took on Chilean and Ecuadorian defenders? And yes, once Ronaldinho left. What's your point? Robinho first pick for Brazil? Yeah since Ronaldinho and Kaka got unfit right?
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Messi does not take on defenders end of argument and we can agree to disagree on this. Only Ronaldhino plays the same position as Robinho so the Kaka argument doesn't make sense. Ronaldhino prior to the WC had a lovely season FOR MILAN but for Brazil his performances since the 06 WC is way below that of Robinho. I watched the entire qualifications and friendlies but Ronaldhino sucked for Brazil, hence the reason why Robinho was picked over him.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Ronaldinho and Kaka don't play the same position? And you mean to tell me you pay attention to world football? Ronaldinho and Kaka both play as attacking midfield players. For Brazil his performances were way below that of Robinho? You mean in the few matches he was actually played in, where he in fact played better than Robinho? Robinho was not picked over Ronaldinho.. don't imply that Dunga had to take one or the other. You have a bad habit of implying nonsense.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Ronaldinho and Kaka don't play the same position, you are using the term attacking midfielder broadly. Kaka is a central attacking midfielder. Ronaldhino was and is always a left sided attacking midfielder. They tried playing Ronaldhino in the central trequartista role for Milan and it just didn't work. Ronaldhino asked to be excused from many games including the Copa America and has only scored 2 goals in competitive games for Brazil which were penalities in the Olympics.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Ronaldinho and Kaka do play the same position. Though Ronaldinho can ALSO operate from the left side. For a lot of his time at Barcelona he was playing as a central attacking midfielder.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
No, never. He was always on the left side, continue making an ass of yourself. Deco and Xavi operated in the midfield. Messi only became popular after Ronaldhino left. Since the 06 WC, I guess it affected him mentally, Ronaldinho's performances waned. According to Brazilian statisctics, 70% of goals scored for Brazil came through Robinho. Robinho is a playmaker first.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile hahahah you're the only one making an ass of himself. Deco, Xavi and Ronaldinho all operated in the middle you fucking clown. Yeah, believe it or not, its possible to play with 3 in the middle. Ronaldinho played center attacking midfield. Messi started becoming popular since the 2005-2006 season, and then even more so the season after when Ronaldinho in fact was still there. Get your facts straight. Robinho only started getting minutes after WC06... You fool.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Quote one Madrid player who said Robinho was selfish? Only Jose Mourinho now decides who starts for Madrid, from ever since this wasn't so.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Ronaldo is a joke? Yeah the rest of the world things so too....
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
The world thinks Ronaldo is good, this is a lie. The 'world' does not think he is good. He does have many fans, but to use the word 'world' is an outright fallacy, argumentum ad populum.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Obviously I don't literally mean everyone in the world thinks Ronaldo is good. The fact that you even took that literally is shocking. But let me rephrase that: The vast majority of people who have knowledge about football can admit that C.Ronaldo is a high quality player.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
The vast majority again sir, argumentum ad populum. You are in no position to speak for the vast majority. The only place I see people liking Ronaldo the fake one, is here on youtube. Never came across a single soul who likes him. Please learn how to argue. Ronaldo is a god goal scorer yes, we've been over this, but apart from that, the antics that he pulls of on the field which is described as skill by people who have no knowledge of footabll, is not skill.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Well you sir, are in no position to speak for the people on youtube. And again, I never said that Ronaldo had amazing 'skill', we've been over this. But he is a better footballer than Robinho because he is more effective. You need to learn how to argue and to not do what you accuse others of doing, in other words, not be a hypocrit. Only on youtube you see people who think he is good? How about the best coaches in world football? Or do they not have knowledge of football either?
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
I wasn't speaking for the people on youtube, when I said only on youtube I see people who like Ronaldo. You definitely failed reading comprehension. Ronaldo is not a better footballer than Robinho. Your deciding factor that Ronaldo* is better is because he has scored more goals and won awards. Cannavaro won the Ballon D'or and player of the year as a defender and I can safely assume he was outscored by many forwards. Coaches have a way of being 'diplomatic', you should learn that.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile So who were you talking about then? The people that aren't on youtube? You might seriously be retarded after all. My deciding factor is not just that Ronaldo scores more goals, but that definitely adds to the argument. The fact that you're bringing Cannavaro who is a center defender into an argument involving wingers just shows you're running out of ideas. No kidding Cannavaro won't be scoring more than forwards... You're an idiot.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Loololl. You are the biggest idiot I have ever argued with. I said the only place I see people who say that Ronaldo is good, is here on youtube, that is not speaking for 'everyone' on youtube.
You made the point that Ronaldo and Messi is better because they score more goals and was voted the best. I used Cannavaro because in his capacity of his defensive abilities he was voted the best, you idiot.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile If you're telling me the only place you see people say Ronaldo is good is here on youtube I question where you get your info.
'In the capacity of his defensive abilities'. You idiot, how is this relevant in any way? I didn't need you to tell me that a central defender was awarded for his 'defensive' abilities. What is your point? Ronaldo and Messi play the same position as Robinho (attacking positions) and they contribute more to their respective teams. Its not rocket science
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
So a defender doesn't contribute? You didn't know Cannavaro was voted the best, don't be afraid to admit that.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile You are truly a dumbass. And obviously I knew Cannavaro won the award... are you kidding? Cannavaro who is a defender obviously contributes with his defending, and in some cases defenders can contribute going forward. We are talking about players who play wing/forward. Are you going to measure their contributions based on how well they defend or how much they contribute going forward? Don't make this more complicated than it is. Its very simple.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
That's right, here is the only place I see people who are stupid enough to believe that Ronaldo is good. We can do this all day.
Out in the real world, where people with brains can see that Rooney sucks, we know that Ronaldo is terribly overrated.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Here is the only place? Really? Is that why C.Ronaldo is a FIFA world player of the year award winner? You fucking idiot.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Do not blur the lines between fact and opinion. That they were nominated was based on the majority opinion. Robinho is the most skillful player alive today. I admit Messi and Ronaldo are better goal scorers, but they are nowhere as skillful as Robinho. Robinho completely outperformed Messi in the Copa, and this is why Robinho walked away with the MVP award, and Robinho outperformed Messi in the WC and Messi sucks for Argentina, while Robinho is always Brazils most effective player.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Okay the FIFA world player award is obviously based on opinion. But there is a reason why the majority vote went to Messi and Ronaldo. And I never said that Robinho was not as skillful if not more skillful/talented than those two. That is a different topic. What I said is that they are better footballers at the moment. You just keep mentioning tournaments here and there with national teams where Robinho outperforms them. How about everywhere else though?
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
I agree that Messi Ronaldo score more goals, I am not disputing this fact and I see where your definition of 'better footballers' has to be with 'who scores how much goals'. The only team Robinho has ever played for where he was wrongly accused for being a flop was in City. His mother was kidnapped and held for ransom in Brazil, so he left for Madrid. Madrid used him as a bargaining chip to get Ronaldo and he asked to leave. City was City plain and simple no explanation there.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Okay, Robinho didn't do well at City for whatever reason. He had family problems etc. Yes Robinho was used in order to get C.Ronaldo but what's your point? And no my deinition for "better footballer" is not necessarily who scores more goals.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Also Robinho is not the most skillful player alive today. Ronaldinho at the same club AC Milan is by far the most skillful player, along with Ronaldo (Brazilian) playing in Brazil now.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
You might have a point about Ronaldhino, but I used the word 'this day'. Have you seen Ronaldo playing for Corinthians lately, as a matter of fact, he hasn't played for a couple of months. Ronaldo is on the brink of retiring, he is immobile , can't run for ten yards and plays a one- touch game of football. He might know what to do, but his legs can't do it.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile You actually used the word 'alive'. But okay we can count Ronaldo as being retired. Ronaldinho is the most skillful player in the world.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Ronaldinho is the most skillful player. I am still on my point about Ronaldo the fake one. Ronaldo has succeeded in fooling the world that he is skillful. The one good trick he has up his sleeve was introduced to the world by Denilson in the 98 WC. His stepovers are sub-par and it doesn't get him anywhere. The nonsense he does is for aesthetic purposes only, certainly not to get him past defenders. For me he doesn't define the word skill like Denilson, Neymar, Douglas Costa etc.
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bibiadia 1 year ago
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@realrasmckhaile Ronaldo the fake one. No, he is definitely not as skillful as Denilson or Robinho, etc. He is just a fantastic athlete, as he is exceptionally fast and strong. I'm not arguing that C.Ronaldo has beautiful stepovers or body fakes. No, he just beats players using speed and strength. I personally like Robinho more and yes he is more skillful, better footballer? Thats a different issue because people care about effectiveness and statistics.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Drogba would be defined as a world class great. Terrific goal scorer and that's about it. Is he the best dribbler, no, does he have the best vision, no, is he skillful enough to get past 1-2-3 defenders certainly no. I like Robinho because, he has the uncanny ability to get rid of his markers, not just dribble past his markers but to 'break their ankles' to 'take them on' and feed his teammates with the ball. He is the true definition of a good footballer.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Yes Drogba would be defined as a world class great because he is highly capable of changing a game at any moment. A lot of people would say as of now he is a better footballer than Robinho as well. You're telling me you like robinho because he is tricky. Yes, I like Robinho for this reason as well.. But you are saying that because he can "break ankles" he is the best. I don't know about that. Funner to watch and more entertaining? Yes definitely, and I'm all for that.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
According to Brazilian statistics provided by Dunga, 70% of goals scored for Brazil since Robinho's inclusion came through Robinho and this is the most succesful team in football history. I do not have a designated hatred for Messi, who I admit is a very good player, but Messi is nowhere as skillful as Robinho and his best performances are playing with Xavi, Iniesta and Alves and this statement can be corroborated by thorough research if you have the time. Ronaldo sucks.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Okay, but according to statistics on any legitimate football website, Messi scored 47 goals in 53 games. Most successful team in football history? Yes, for national teams. But where do footballers play most of their football, clubs or national? You can't blame Messi for having good teammates. What about Robinho playing with Zidane, Ronaldo, Beckham, Guti, Roberto Carlos etc? How can Ronaldo suck when he consistently puts up world class figures? 42/49, 26/53, 33/35 goal to game..
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Robinho is a winger/ playmaker has been since he was in Santos. There is a reason why Robinho had the second most assists to Guti for Madrid. The fact that he didn't start every game was because of a so-called "Galacticos policy" which has nothing to do with football, hence the explanation for Beckham's inclusion in the Madrid squad. Players play in Madrid to sell jerseys not because of what they can offer to the team.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Fair enough. But if you call Robinho a winger/playmaker as opposed to a forward, you could easily say the same for both C.Ronaldo and Messi.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Fair enough. But if you call Robinho a winger/playmaker as opposed to a forward, you could easily say the same for both C.Ronaldo and Messi. And don't hate on David Beckham just because a lot of people happen to like him outside of football. When Madrid bought him he was a top class player without a doubt. About the "Galazticos policy" Luis Figo was no longer there and Robinho was meant to fill that role.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Robinho is instinctively a playmaker first, hence the Brazilian statistics for his team and his assists for Madrid. Messi is instinctively a selfish player, majority of his goals is from assists from Xavi, Alves Iniesta and Keita. I am not taking anything from Messi with my next point. La liga isn't know for a defensive system of football, and apart from Barca, most defenders in La liga are sub-par. Messi romped through the likes of Getafe, Almeria, Malaga I mean c'mon.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Messi is instinctively a selfish player? Sure, but if he can score 47 goals in 53 games I'm sure they don't mind him being 'instinctively selfish'. Robinho is a selfish player as well, for sure. He just isn't capable of scoring as much, even when he was playing with the likes of Zidane, Guti, Raul, Beckham (yes Beckham, arguably the most accurate footballer ever). Most defenders in La Liga are sub-par? Sure, but Robinho didn't do nearly as well when he was at Madrid..
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Beckham most accurate. LOLOLOL. I would ask you what the hell you mean by accurate and if you mean freekicks, the best freekick taker is Juninho Pernambucano.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Best freekick taker Juninho Pernambucano? HAHAHAH first he shows he's a retard and now he is showing signs of being a comedian as well. What the hell I mean by most accurate is freekick, crossing, long balls, shooting, etc. Its pretty explanatory for people with decent brain function.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
You have the I.Q. of a paramecium. No one in their right mind will say Beckham is near a good free kick taker than Juninho. Look at what Juninho did to Oliver Khan and Valdez for Barca. Beckham my ass.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile HAHAH again, using specific examples? Why don't you list every freekick Juninho has ever taken that you think is impressive? Enlighten me. You are a dumbass, humans aren't supposed to be this stupid. Beckham is without a doubt a better freekick taker than Juninho. Its not even an argument.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Beckham better than Juninho, pious minds lends true to extraordinary nonsense. Your brain is less than 500 microns in diameter, what does this mean its dust. I would advise you to not clean your ears with ostrich feathers because it has a static charge. You are such an ass every time you open your mouth a suppository falls out.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile What are you an enlightenment thinker now? Really a suppository falls out everytime I open my mouth? HAHAH you make me laugh. You have lost this argument for like the 18th time. You dimwit.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile LMAO now you know my I.Q.? Keep going. What else do you know about me? You are a comedian. Take your gig somewhere else
bibiadia 1 year ago
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@bibiadia
Human cognition is well set up to process distinct unambiguous concepts but with a defunct IQ this process is entirely impossible. Have you ever considered donating your brain to maritime biology to be used as a floatation device? All your incoherent drivel is a result of years of suppressed dementia which has just now succeeded in passing from your unconscious to your conscious mind. Even Abe Lincoln had a brighter future when he picked up his tickets at the box office.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile HAHAH keep the funny jokes coming. Tell me more about Abe Lincoln and human cognition please. Haha you are embarrassing yourself.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Beckham like C.Ronaldo is terribly overrated. Yes Robinho was bought to fill Figo's role, and yes he wore the 10. Yes Robinho was used a bargaining chip to get the player who was considered the best at the time.
Please, bibiadia. Tell me what is YOUR definition of Robinho 'not doing good for City', I am waiting.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile MY definition of Robinho 'not doing good for City' is that he did not do nearly as well as he was expected to. Sure he did better than the average player, but he was getting paid the most in the league. He was suppoosed to do much better than he did. And don't say its because he did not have a good team around him. Other players have done much better with worse teams before. For example: Carlos Tevez with West Ham..
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
He was getting paid more, so he is supposed to do better? That my friend is the dumbest argument I have ever heard. So Yaya Toure is expected to perform better than Silva and Balotelli right? When Tevez joined the team Robinho was injured and went on being injured for 3mths. When Robinho scored his 14 goals he was playing with Ireland and Caciedo etc. His team sucked. He left in Jan 010 2 mths after he recoverd from injury. Tevez is a headless striker, Robinho is a winger.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile "He was getting paid more, so he is supposed to do better" That is not what I said. Do you have the logic of a child? Think about it. Its not that he's supposed to do better because he was getting paid more... The idea is that there is a reason why he was getting paid so much, because more was expected out of him. You think they just pay certain players more than others because they just like them more? You think its a coincidence that star players get paid more than others? ...
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Son, Madrid sold Robinho to the highest bidder as in an auction and his wages reflected that. It is not his fault that he got paid the most and he didn't want to be at City, the guy even said Chelsea at his City unveiling.
This is your homework. Go find out why Robinho fired his agent Wagner Ribeiro who got him his biggest contract just 2 weeks after he joined City.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile First of all I'm not your son. Second of all Robinho being sold to the highest bidder has nothing to do with how much they pay the player himself in wages. Even you should know that, come on now try to keep up a little bit. Oh did Robinho want to be at Chelsea instead? Poor guy. Is that the excuse you're making up for him for underperforming in the EPL? This is your homework.. Go find out why Madrid was desperate to throw Robinho out and get C.Ronaldo. Go on.. take your time.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Robinho never underperformed in the EPL. There was no desperation on Madrid's behalf to sell Robinho.
Your random and insightful musings is infused with the dangerous presence of severe schizophrenia, descernible to the educated and even those blessed with an IQ above room temperature. Waiting for you to post something worth reading, is like waiting for the bus in a city where you're not sure they have a bus line.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile No desperation on Madrid's behalf to sell Robinho? Its either you are a retard or you're living in another planet. Wow.. Did you come up with that simile all by yourself? Stop trying to sound educated when you are clearly a dumbass. Don't waste my time with any more of your retardation please.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Beckham terribly overrated? Absolutely not. If anything Beckham is underrated. Robinho was brought in to fill Figo's role and he was not quite able to which is why he was replaced with C.Ronaldo, who did a better job at Madrid than he did. Plain and simple.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
He was not quite able to, this sir is an opinion? Robinho was Madrid's 3rd highest scorer behind poachers Raul and Van Nistelrooy and the player with the 2nd most assists, behind Guti. With Robinho's help they won 2 La Liga titles, since he left they haven't won anything. Beckham is a joke of a footballer only good for crosses and free kicks. Robinho left Madrid and after a full season Ronaldo came, to sell jerseys, as pointed out by Madrid who recouped this transfer fee in a year.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Sure its an opinion to some extent.. Technically I could say Michael Owen is the best player ever and I could say its an opinion, no? David Beckham a joke of a footballer? You sir are a joke. David Beckham is one of the most efficient players as he is a brilliant passer, he has a nice touch, and a great shot. Ronaldo came to sell jerseys? You keep mentioning Robinho being 3rd highest scorer.. News flash: Ronaldo was top scorer with 33 goals in 35 games. not as impressive huh?
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Beckham I will not waste words talking about Beckham he is not even on the radar of a good footballer.
Yes Ronaldo scores more goals, you departed from this argument trying to convince me he is better than Robinho by saying the world thinks so, now you go back to him scoring goals. Ronaldo could score a billion goals, he will still not be half the footballer Robinho is, him and Drogba. Yes Madrid has a Galacticos policy, go research that.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile
Selfish players will score more goals, and this fact is highlighted when Ronaldo and Alonso argued over who should take a penalty. Ronaldo had the most goals in the team and he insisted on taking the penalty over Alonso, who just wanted one goal to his name.
Pelligrini said the whole time he was there he never spoke to Perez, and it was Perez who decided who should play. From this we deduce why Robinho never started every match, because Madrid is a corporation first.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Selfish players will score more goals? That's a fact? Now you're just getting desperate with your arguments. Would Pellegrini have started Robinho every match? What's Perez's reason for not playing Robinho all the time? Also, if I remember correctly a lot of Madrid players accused Robinho of being too sefish of a player and playing for himself. Go research that real quick.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Since the days of Del Bosque, Schuster, Capello, Ramos and Pelligrini, it was the president who decides whjo should play. Does the president spend his days on the training field with the players? The ones who play are the popular ones you numbskull.
It is safe to say you elevate stupidity into an art form. Beckham 'accurate', your pseudological arguments is exhausting and nonsensical. You would exhaust a psychiatrist's list of diagnoses.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile LOOOL again with the metaphors and similes? Keep talking your bullshit. It just shows you have nothing more to say about the topic. This argument is over, and you have lost it. You certified retard.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Oh a Galacticos policy? Did you figure that out all by yourself? Is that another excuse you are making for poor Robinho for not getting enough minutes at Madrid? Last time I checked Figo was gone and Robinho came in, but he was not good enough to fill those boots. Oh I'm sorry, the entire world doesn't think so.. just the people who matter like the people who decide on FIFA world player of the year, etc. You could convince yourself otherwise if that lets you sleep at night.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Your defining quality is your ability to post and post non stop, cardiac BS. How you manage to leave out most of the alphabet making your way from A-Z is truly remarkable.You argue with incongruent reason, perhaps you live in world that doesn't require 3 coherent sentences in a row, sentences that read like they were written by a random word generator. When subjected to that degree of stupidity our human instincts cry out in protest.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile LOOOL the fact that you aren't even talking about football anymore proves you lost this argument. Its alright, it happens. You win some you lose some. Better luck next time. I actually thought you had a valid point in what you were saying for about 2 posts, and then I realized you're just straight up retarded.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
You just said Beckham is a better free kick taker than Juninho. We definitely aren't talking football anymore. If retardation is war you are fighting dirty.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile You are talking about human instincts and reason. Who are you John Locke? You are a fool.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia
Barcelona has a certain philosophy of football, and with this philosophy it brings the best out of players. Alves great for Barca, but his performances for Brazil, even though he was played out of his position was subpar. Messi who was too played out of his position IN THE WC subpar, and too in the qualifiers where he was played in his position. Robinho, always great for Brazil i.e. in his comfort zone and Milan bought Robinho based on his performances for Brazil not City.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile Yes Barcelona does have a certain philosophy of football, but no it does not necessarily bring the best out of players. Zlatan Ibrahimovic amazing at Inter, subpar at Barca. Also, yes Robinho is always great for Braziil, but you just said it yourself.. it is his COMFORT ZONE. Why do you say Milan bought him based on his performances for Brazil and not City? Maybe because they just know how much potential he has, especially playing with Dinho, Pato, and Ibra.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia, realrasmckhail answered to you"How could anyone play exceptional with Caciedo and Ireland? Is C.Ronaldo exceptional playing for Portugal, Messi for Argentina? " ....Ibrahimovic with sweden etc...
Btw, Quitting Brazil at the top 5 and coming back 10years after and still being in the top 5 isn't easy, I'm talking about Brazil man! there's no country with more new skilled players each years! be honnest!
And I also hope the new Milan Ac will rock!
Peace dude!
Balthinho 1 year ago
@Balthinho You think playing with Caciedo and Ireland is an excuse for Robinho not playing well? Not at all. There are many examples of players playing exceptionally without good players around them. C.Ronaldo Messi and Ibrahimovic all play better for their respective countries than Robinho did for city imo.
True Brazil is one of the leagues where most young talent comes from, but it isn't that high a level. Also, Robinho didn't leave Brazil and come back after 10 years!
Respect bro!
bibiadia 1 year ago
@bibiadia but ronaldo messi and ibrahimovic dont play exceptionally well for their countries ronaldo has one goal in 2 years with portugal messi didnt even score at the world cup which his country struggled to get to and ibrahimovic wasnt even their but they all play a lot better at their clubs when they have payers like xavi, iniesta and alonso supporting them ;)
goodall46 1 year ago
@goodall46 Ibra has been a king the last games with sweden im a swede so i know.
hetsarN 1 year ago
@goodall46 Hey, you are right. Maybe they don't always play great for their countries. But how about the players who have amazing players around them that do not play well at all? It goes both ways doesn't it. Players can play exceptionally well when they don't have good players around them and players can play badly even when they have world class players around them. By the way, did you see Messi vs Spain the other day? Incredible.
bibiadia 1 year ago
@goodall46
Messi just started playing well Argentina. Ronaldo is terrible for Portugal no argument there, but Dunga prior to the WC said Robinho has contributed to most of Brazil's goals. Messi has never played better than Robinho for country and this can be proved with the Copa America where both players represented their country and Robinho walked away with the M.V.P. award. Sublime goals against Italy and Ireland, 2 man of the match in the W.C. and even scored a goal.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago 10
@realrasmckhaile I agree lol robinho is quality ;)
goodall46 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile ronaldo is doing really good atm for portugal while onn the other hand messi is still playing like shit for argentina. Messi is a player who without the best possible team cant play good, thts why he only plays good at barca
grandtheftauto4IV 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile he scored 2
jdotman09 1 year ago
It looks like he'll be going to Barcelona now that Ibrahimovic's going to Milan...I don´t know if he can fit there..he's "a bit too skilled",very individualistic,not really hard working and he loves to go out...I'm not sure,but I think it's a mistake from both Barcelona and him,because it's really difficult for him to succeed there.
I can´t remember any Brazilian player that succeeded in Europe after having to go back to Brazil because he struggled in European teams...
anxofarmesto 1 year ago
@anxofarmesto no he didnt struggle in european teams bro, he was the best in manchester city he didnt struggle, it was just the injury that slowed him down, and in real madrid he was a super player every single season, he just had a argument whit the coach. thats why he went to manchester city.
sousa920 1 year ago
@sousa920
Before I answer I'd like to know if you're Brazilian or Portuguese...I'm guessing you are because of your name,and I wouldn´t like to answer in English when I can do it in your language...
anxofarmesto 1 year ago
@anxofarmesto sou portugues mano, falas bem ingles
sousa920 1 year ago
Eu sou galego,mas estudei português e inglês desde menino.
Do Robinho quería dizer que nao triunfou no Madrid,nunca teve um ano realmente bom...era muito individualista e sempre tinha problemas na equipa...nao encaixaba bem e os companheiros nao tinham boa relaçao com ele,nom era tampouco um jogador de fazer muitos golos.
Fui uma decepçao no Madrid e no Manchester City fez um bom ano,depois marchou a Brasil e agora nao o querem na equipa...e nunca um treinador falou bem de Robinho...por algo é.
anxofarmesto 1 year ago
@anxofarmesto é assim mano, eu nao sei o que te dizer, eu sinceramente acho que ele jogou mutio bem no real madrid, mesmo sem fazer golos, agora claru que é importante ele se dar bem com os colegas mas acho que nao é culpa dele, ele parece ser boa pessoa, mas prontos eu compreendo o teu ponto de vista mas eu acredito bastante no sucesso do robinho e acredito nas suas capacidades.
sousa920 1 year ago
@sousa920
He scored more goals in his first season at Man City than Rooney. It was in his 2nd season at City while he was injured then the English started calling him a flop, because his injury wasn't reported in the papers. He didn't play because he was injured for 3mths and the English thought it was because Hughes never wanted him to play and he left in Jan. Rooney just went 5 mths without scoring goals but the English still thinks he is god.
realrasmckhaile 1 year ago
@realrasmckhaile good point, but its not all about the gols, cause what makes me watch robinho, its his magical feet. how he plays, how he dribbles, his teamwork, everything is amazing, how he scores, its just incredible, for me he didnt struggle in any team, its just because he got injury problems and was used to bring ronaldo to madrid as u said. but for me robinho is my favourite player right now
sousa920 1 year ago
and he is not very individualistic, he is skilled, and he makes amazing teamwork too
sousa920 1 year ago
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He only played in 2 European teams. If he was struggling in Madrid then why would Madrid use him as a bargaining chip to get Ronaldo who was considered the best at the time? Raul and Nistlerooy are strikers/poachers, so how is it they were the only ones to outscore Robinho who was a winger? How did he struggle to outscore Rooney in his first season? Do you expect an injured playing on the bench to score goals, he was injured for 3mths in his 2nd season and left in January.
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