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  • The Moral Law isn't arbitrary. It is an extension of natural that teaches us how to exercise our free will without falling out of harmony with nature and reaping the natural consequences (pain, suffering, disease, genetic degradation, ect.) Most people reject or are completely ignorant of this, and then they wonder why the world is filled with human suffering and evil. They would rather ridicule the truth and invoke the natural consequences that accept it.

  • @EqualAndFree We're not against science. Evolution is not science it is a religion AND antagonistic to real science. Hence the reason why the facts are suppressed or ignored that prove evolution impossible.

  • @EqualAndFree Yeah...and?

  • @slaves4christ yes and... if all these evidences are not to be taken into account because they only represent a "figurative" form of language, why do you quote other sayings when it's convenient and goes according to what SCIENCE EXPLAINS? Isn't it all figurative? So if the bible says Christ's the son of God, why isn't this figurative as well?

  • @SophiasHeir How do you tell when a person today is speaking figuratively or literally? It's usually pretty easy.

    In the Bible, it's usually pretty easy to tell if someone speaking figuratively, like when it says Jesus is a door, a lamb or a lion. When it is recording history, it is pretty straight forward. When it is using poetry, colorful language, apocalyptic language, you can usually tell right away. But being familiar w the author of the book, the setting, as well as the whole Bible helps.

  • @slaves4christ Nobody in the bible says "Now I'm being figurative" and "now I'm being serious". They leave all conclusions TO YOU. It's ambiguous and completely subjective to assume they are talking in literal way. So, how do you assume your opinion of what's figurative is to be taken seriously and my opinion of what's figurative is totally irrelevant?

  • @SophiasHeir Nobody says "Now I'm being figurative" in our culture, but most people know intuitively when someone is speaking figuratively, don't you agree?

  • @EqualAndFree The Bible elsewhere says that the earth is a sphere and that it hangs on nothing, while retarded Greeks etc said it was flat and sat on the backs of turtles.

  • @EqualAndFree Are you purposely spewing this bologna, or are you really not that bright?

    Everyone knows that the bible say Jesus was the Son of God was performing a miracle, not teaching us how to fix medical problems.

    As for the earth being built on pillars, have you have heard of figurative language? Do you chastise people for their scientific negligence when they say it's raining cats and dogs and you don't find felines and canines plummeting to their deaths?

  • People who don`t listen to priests Deuteronomy 17;12... Fornication Leviticus 21:9

  • To be fair, The Bible is quite a good fictional story, maybe in a thousand years people will take Harry Potter just as seriously. Or the Star Wars films : 'And Obi Wan said to thee "These aren't the droids you're looking for" doth parting the stormtroopers and thus they escaped to the Millenium Falcon'. New Hope Chapter 3 Verse 16.

  • @robk243 Sorry it`s not a good fictional story. It`s not even fit to be told in kindergarten. The greatest miracle of our times is, that supposedly educated people still give any credence to the writings of goat-herders from 3,000 years ago.

  • @ndzoko Come on! I don't give any credence to the bible, and i'd hate for anyone to believe that i was some kind of fundamentalist christian, but you can't tell me after watching Jason Donovan in 'Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat' that those goat herders can't spin a damn good yarn...

  • Why would this intelligent designer create a bout 2 million toxins ? Why would he create virusses, parasites etc, causing about 2 million illnesses ? Why would he distribute the landmass over the globe in a manner, worse than a picture of Picasso ? Why would he create about 2 million wayward asteroids and meteorites threatening our very existence ? Why plate tectonics ? etc etc. Doesn`t look very intelligent to me !!

  • @ndzoko If there is no God, why is there love and how did it come about? Why does logic exist? Why do we have a sense of morality? What is the purpose in living? What does it matter what we do and why do you care if someone believes in God if they're just going to go out of existence in a few decades?

  • @slaves4christ Love, morality, goodness started in the family. Just figure a family with no morality, no love, no goodness, how long will it survive ? And as social life grew, as tribes evolved ,that morality and love to a lesser degree, extended to the tribe. etc. You see ,it is not so difficult to understand were love and morality come from. You need no god for that. That is also why people without a god are as moral as believers. Look at the Buddhists, they have no god. .

  • @ndzoko Most of those things are a result of the fall - the curse because of sin. You can't know if these things are intelligent if you don't know the Creator's purpose. No asteroid or meteorite will have hit us unless God wants it to. Plate tectonics and the distribution of landmass are due the fountains of the deep breaking open, beginning the global flood which included many larges scale catastrophicl geological events, possibly also the reason dirt, rocks & ice are flying through space.

  • @slaves4christ My dear slave. Tell me how the creation of all those toxins and agents causing disease are the result of sin. Well than, you are absolutely 100% sure there is a creator, but your can`t answer the questions why he created all this nasty stuff harmful to humans. Doesn`t he have the elements under his control ? What is he doing up there ?The global flood is plain nonsense. Not even a kindergarten kid can believe such nonsense.

  • @ndzoko My dear heathen, what gives you the idea that God wants us to live in paradise right now? God cursed the creation as a result of sin. Is that hard to understand. Did your daddy ever punish you when you did wrong? If he let man live forever, we'd be living forever in our sin. But God has a better plan. There are incredible amounts of evidence for the global flood.

    (see next post)

  • @slaves4christ If you don't think there's evidence for a worldwide flood, see these video on my channel:

    Startling Evidence That Noah's Flood Really Happened - Michael Oard

    Worldwide Geologic Evidence of the Flood - Dr. Thomas Kindell

    Creation Today: Worldwide Evidence of a Worldwide Flood (uploading now)

  • @slaves4christ Did your daddy ever punish you when you did wrong? My dear slave, did you daddy ever tell you if you don`t obey, if you don`t believe in me, I am going to torture you FOR ALL ETERNITY ? What a LOVING father !!!!!!!!!!

  • @ndzoko A just judge will not let crimes go unpunished.

    But have you ever heard of JESUS! This loving God came down to earth TO TAKE THE PUNISHMENT FOR YOU!!

  • @slaves4christThis loving God came down to earth TO TAKE THE PUNISHMENT FOR YOU!!>>>> Unfortunately my dear, there isn`t a shred of evidence. Please give me ONE piece of irrefutable evidence for the salvation story. Thank you.

  • @ndzoko loving God came down to earth TO TAKE THE PUNISHMENT FOR YOU!!>>>> That is exactly like the arsonist saving people for the fire he himself has set.

  • @slaves4christ Human justice is immensely more just as god`s justice. Human justice has a scale of crimes and a corresponding scale of punishments. throwing in" mitigating circumstances," parole etc. But this heavenly father has only one punishment. Every non-penitant petty thief or rapist go in the same pot ; hell. But the repentant mass-murderer gets a ticket to heaven. Go figure !!!

  • @ndzoko You speak out of ignorance. God has different levels of punishment in hell. Humans don't have justice - giving murderers & rapists 5-10 years in jail instead of execution. Locking thieves in a cage rather than paying restitution. Putting people in a cage for years for killing an animal, but no punishment for killing a baby.

    Only a fool would reject God's amazing grace. But he doesn't just take a murderer to heaven. He changes him from the inside out - makes him into a different person

  • @slaves4christ You make me laugh. Show me those levels of punishment in hell, with any evidence you have to make such a claim. Thank you.

  • @slaves4christ God has different levels of punishment in hell.>>> I presume the mass-murderers are at the bottom of the pit. right ? Would you mind showing me your evidence for this nonsense. Thank you.

  • @slaves4christ Hahahaha: Levels of punishment in hell. I figure ,you believe in Dante`s presentation of hell. where sinners are punished with torturing the organ of their body they misused. Rapists are tortures by poking(for all eternity) pitchforks into their genitals etc etc. Where in your holy bible, do they explain those levels of torture ?? Are you denying my claim that a repentant mass-murderer goes to heaven ?

  • @ndzoko "But he doesn't just take a murderer to heaven. He changes him from the inside out - makes him into a different person" <--- Listen to those words.

  • @Stianchez The christian god is a killer :Power of your love :How great is god ?Witches, kill them. Homosexuals, kill them.fortunetellers, kill them. those who don`t listen to priests, kill them. those hitting their dad, kill them. those who curse their parents, kill them, adulterers, kill them. fornicators, kill them. people who believe in other religions, kill them. non-believers,kill them. fals prohets ,kill them. blasphemers, kill them. those who work on the Sabbath, kill them.

  • @ndzoko If you create something, you are free to destroy it. God created us, he justly destroys the wicked.

    When would like these people to die? 20-30 years later? What would that do, other than spread their evil like yeast leavens a batch of dough? They were going to die and go to hell anyway.

    Where do you get the parts about not listening to priests, and about fornicators?

  • @slaves4christ If god does what he wants with his creation, then don`t call him a "loving father". A loving father does not do whatever he wants. A god who murders people for minor, insignificant ,infractions is not a loving god but a tyrant. Read your bible. The christian god is a murderous one.

  • @slaves4christ Regarding the global flood: just answer me one question. How did the author of the bible know the WHOLE earth was flooded. They had no clue the world is a sphere, and even if they knew, they had no way to go and look at the other side of the world if it was flooded. Nor did they have the means to communicate with somebody on the other side, because they all drowned. Just tell me HOW HE KNEW THE WHOLE WORLD WAS FLOODED ?

  • I am a former evolutionist.

    It was after viewing the evidence, or lack thereof, for the evolution myth that I abandoned evolutionism. And that was while I was attending a liberal university.

    Great video.

  • That finishing statement is so profound. I love it. "Somebody will impact the worldview of our students; It may aswell be me".

    Amen.

  • @SaveTheSnakes They've been 'trying' to have an 'impact' since the 70s with this crap, since the 'evidence' supporting it hasn't changed since. This was the case where you Christians were laughed out of court by the world's combined knowledge which completely embarrasses those such a ridiculous notion. Science isn't agenda based, this garbage is. Deception? = IT'S A CONSPIRACY! You guys are obviously nuts.

  • the existence of a nonsensical being named god is the greatest deception of all time. christians are the punchline of the joke of christianity.

  • This guy is absolutely brilliant. He uses impeccable logic, chooses excellent citations, and speaks with authority. I don't think any of the leading evolutionary "scientists" can hold a candle to him. The best presentation on creation vs. evolution I have yet seen. Evolutionism is bunk science and most have been duped.

  • @BachScholar>>> Why does this intelligent creator, create life, let it blosssom in the womb, to cut it short event before birth ? 4,500,000 still births yearly worldwide ? Why does this intelligent creator create life, let it love and be loved, to undo his creation in the first year of life ? about 5,000,000 deads in the first year of life worldwide. Doesn`t look very intelligent nor LOVING to me!!

  • @BachScholar Any logic that begins with 'The Bible says...' clearly isn't good logic. I don't think any of the leading creationist 'bible bashers' can show any evidence for their claims other than that some magical fairy story says so. And i'm clearly very impartial as i thought Jesus Christ Superstar was an excellent film.

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