@godisanegro her point was not that she wants to live in a nanny state. the point was she wants to live in a society with compassion, not one where all relations are transactional
Unfortunately, we have hollowed out our ability to make things. High taxes drove businesses overseas to places like RED CHINA, with their poisionous products. No we didn't do it, politicians like Bill Clinton did. He got money for his 96 Prez run from Red China. Then, as Prez he signed NAFTA and all those jobs left here and Mexico and went to China. Then tens of millions of illegals flooded us and China became our banker. What a deal!
Rhutenia, do you shop at Wal Mart? Do you shop online to save money? Do you only buy local goods made in America? We don't have to buy imported goods, but people do and then complain about NAFTA. Everyone wants to make more money, but thinks everyone else makes too much. People have shopped each other out of good paying jobs, for junk they don't even need.
How do you keep a people down? You 'never' let them 'know' their history.
The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after Little Big Horn, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read, and visit site/history, rescue at pine ridge. com
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She has NEVER spoken the truth of 9/11. Why do you applaud her for this very minor point? She is a participant in the atrocities because she won't say a word of truth. 9/11 was mostly planned and executed by dual-citizen Israelis like Dov Zakheim and by Mossad agents. Of course, Cheney and Bush were involved as well, but the Mossad agents lived in the WTC rent free for over a month before 9/11. They were explosive experts, not art students. See Dancing Israelis. LEARN SOMETHING, unlike Toni M.
While I disagree with many of Toni Morrison's positions, she is completely right here when she says "we were not to be called on as citizens, only as consumers." Our modern society is becoming an increasingly apathetic, materialistic society, and in some ways it feels like the government at the time preferred it that way. One can only hope that things will improve, especially if such a tragedy were to strike again.
Totally agree with Tori! We have been and always looked at as consumers, especially black consumers. Stay thirting for the "fads" and your brain is mush from all the "advertising" of things NOT to focus on the real-ities of reality.
great point---but the biggest fear was the fear of destroying the economy, and capitalism, and therefore the response to ....SHOP! 911 was about citizenship by 'extension'---citizens were by standarers who got into the way. The only thing citizens could do was join to army to the enemy where facts were distorted.
@pearpeas: You're right, and Morrison addressed this when she mentioned that part of the purpose of telling people to go out and shop after 9/11 was to keep the economy strong, thereby foiling part of al-Qaeda's purpose of destroying it. HOWEVER. the point was that was all that was said by the government - there was no mention of other acts of good citizenship such as checking on those around you.
No-- I don't agree that either. I would not attempt to tell people how to most nobly expresses their patriotism. That action (or lack of action) is the choice of the citizen. I think its more accurate to say that the message of the government after 9-11 was "live your life," or "Don't let the the terrorists disrupt your way of living."
Are you a libertarian? I just want be clear on your ideological perspective.
But the particular expressions of "live your life" that the government encouraged post 9-11 was to go shopping. Morrison suggests that that's not necessarily a bad thing. The problem is when being a consumer defines a call to patriotic duty.
Citizens choose to do what they want, no doubt. But market values should not primarily inform how government "leaders" regard the citizenry.
I don't want the government to come check on me, and make sure I'm okay. I don't look to the government when my life gets bumpy. My family and friends know the state of my life, and they don't need anyone to tell them when to ask me if I'm okay. If you were waiting for the government to tell you to check up on your mother after 9-11 something is wrong. Her point is flawed.
@godisanegro i see what she's saying, but I never thought twice about it when people were saying go out and consume again - Of course people are checking up on their families, after that tragedy the government should not have to tell you that - THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING! People forget that this is a capitalist country and the efficency of the market is crucial to our development and advancement - without it we would be destroyed just like the terrorists wanted us to!
Greetings! in the name of the Lord Jesus who is God most High.
Toni Morrison spoke the truth concerning the government's response to 9/11. But I disagree with the affirmation that God is a negro which is a lie. For God is a spirit.
God bless you always! in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
I wish you would seek to know where I'm coming from before offering condemnation. Just like we both agree with Morrison, we may agree on more (about God) than you think.
Greetings! in the name of the Lord Jesus who is God most High.
God is neither black nor white nor confined to any color under the sun. God is a spirit! And those whom seek to identify as a particular color then they are not serving the one true and living God of all creation.
God bless you always! in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
If God is a negro, and God is love, than I'm a negro I guess. Ok.
Toni, baby, u rock. The sentiment that came through your books is all in this vid. If you ever do a vanity search and see this. Love ya. Thank you so much. Beloved.
Dow Chemical, heart and brains of US manufacturing and marxets is in trouble
so is the American dollar and destiny as decider of world affairs
but the American way of life will never end even with all of its mistaxes, the United States is still too powerful to ever permanently xnoc out, but we need greater accountability
what is tragic is that people are not able to think. people react to their feeling's the way they are told is best, because your average person is completely not in touch with thier feeling's. they have feelings but know idea why or were they come from.
Personally I don't consider blacks as fully human. Seriously. IQ tests show on average that blacks have lower score. Evolution states that blacks are the missing link between apes and human.
Blacks were the first "People" but whites and Asians had to adapt to harsh environments, which strengthened their intellect. Ever notice that blacks resemble gorillas? same color, sloped forehead, fat lips, and flat nose. It's not just a coincidence. Not every race is exactly the same. Not PC, but true.
This minor point is presented well. This little bit of thinking is not comparable to the enormous thoughts produced by 9/11 truthers like Richard Gage. This is the time for black America to stand up, and they will not, because they would have to align with whites against the elites. I will go so far as to call blacks traitors. They want money and bourgeois jobs. And if you speak the truth about 9/11, you will be fired, harassed, laughed at, and watch listed.
Do you really think that this is ALL she had to say about 9/11? Click the link in the video description to see if the says anything else that you might agree with.
He's just trolling for controversy. You saw he made no reply. But this is what's truly sad about this country. Its so full of weak minds, so much like Rome before the fall.
Kind of a softball, but yeah. The US government doesn't think of us as citizens, to them we're "Americans", and what are shown as the most 'American' qualities in comparison to other peoples' qualities? Militarism, unabiding faith and rampant consumerism. Not thoughtfulness.
Toni Morrison is a living legend. Half of the people who have posted on this video have not even read her books so go say that mess on a KKK message board. Of course, you anglo, patriachal, oppressive, run from the real issues and turn everything into some propaganda-fueled quest to make others seem inferior in your weak attampt at feeling power asses will never understand her work. She has no poilitical affiliation, she speaks from the heart and the soul-something none of you have
Toni morrison is smart ,but cornel west is an idiot..She put a profound yet simple viewpoint out there and it works w, but if anybody's seen any of cornel west's speeches, he 's unnecessarily dramatic in his speeches and fails to bring anything compelling in terms of originality.
I respectfully disagree Professor West inspires with his work and although he seems a little lofty at times his genius is definitely Dickensian in character. There is NO ONE else who's words are more poetically inspiring to date. Name someone or anyone for that matter on the right wing who has that command of the language or moral authority in his tone. It is not arrogance but Lincolnesque. This is a great man. Mrs. Morrison is a great woman.
I agree. Well said. We need more people who have the power of observation, and less people who only react out of fear due to their own intellectual inferiority complex.
OH please man. THAT is the TRUTH!!! Start watching the news every day, find news stories of what was happening during 9/11, and the research how this country's economic system works. IF Americans stopped shopping on the week of 9/11, it would have been a HUGE stock market crash.
Amen, Tony and Cornel. We made no sacrifices, except the bodies and lives of 3300 American young people, our future, and the tens of thousands wounded who will never live life the way they were supposed to.
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Absolute thumbsucking bedwetting liberal gibberish! Why am I surprised though, look who she is allied with, Cornel West, the chairman of the "Blame America First Assn.". Hey Cornel if America is that bad then Delta is ready when you are uh my BrothahMan! Get out my face you jive ass triflin' muhFuckah!
Shit! She speaks truth. I was there. I lived through that troubled period and I recall exactly what our president demanded of us. He asked us for the courage to spend and defend. What about our neighbors? ANd are we ok ourselves? Nothing doing! Don't ask, don't tell. Just spend and kill.
Does anybody know where I can find the full length conversation?
melancholicme 4 months ago
So she is saying that no one stated that those directly affected by 9-11 were to check on their loved one's safety? I find that hard to believe.
MrBlackhaw 5 months ago
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esparzafgqn 5 months ago
She's a little too fluffy for me, politically.
PaperTiger261 6 months ago
Is there no limit to how much we can push people around before they get to punch back?
dcspaced 1 year ago
@godisanegro her point was not that she wants to live in a nanny state. the point was she wants to live in a society with compassion, not one where all relations are transactional
hyndm 1 year ago 9
@hyndm agreed
godisanegro 1 year ago
@godisanegro much thanks for posting the video
hyndm 1 year ago
lol...black people
MrSkate4weed 1 year ago
@MrSkate4weed skate4weed...lol the name sayz it all..... ignant people
MrHumpdawg 1 year ago
check out my Toni's Morrison Monologue / The Song of Solomon - Guitar by melissa kalinsky
whosmel 1 year ago
lol that interviewer looks ridiculous.
Kyanlikethepepper 1 year ago
I'm hoping there's more to this interview.
TSquared2001 1 year ago
this is great--where do I see more of this discussion?
used2beewindsock 2 years ago
Unfortunately, we have hollowed out our ability to make things. High taxes drove businesses overseas to places like RED CHINA, with their poisionous products. No we didn't do it, politicians like Bill Clinton did. He got money for his 96 Prez run from Red China. Then, as Prez he signed NAFTA and all those jobs left here and Mexico and went to China. Then tens of millions of illegals flooded us and China became our banker. What a deal!
Rhutenia 2 years ago
Rhutenia, do you shop at Wal Mart? Do you shop online to save money? Do you only buy local goods made in America? We don't have to buy imported goods, but people do and then complain about NAFTA. Everyone wants to make more money, but thinks everyone else makes too much. People have shopped each other out of good paying jobs, for junk they don't even need.
gloriasangreal 2 years ago 2
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How do you keep a people down? You 'never' let them 'know' their history.
The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after Little Big Horn, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read, and visit site/history, rescue at pine ridge. com
poshportia62 2 years ago
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She has NEVER spoken the truth of 9/11. Why do you applaud her for this very minor point? She is a participant in the atrocities because she won't say a word of truth. 9/11 was mostly planned and executed by dual-citizen Israelis like Dov Zakheim and by Mossad agents. Of course, Cheney and Bush were involved as well, but the Mossad agents lived in the WTC rent free for over a month before 9/11. They were explosive experts, not art students. See Dancing Israelis. LEARN SOMETHING, unlike Toni M.
neverbeenfree 2 years ago
While I disagree with many of Toni Morrison's positions, she is completely right here when she says "we were not to be called on as citizens, only as consumers." Our modern society is becoming an increasingly apathetic, materialistic society, and in some ways it feels like the government at the time preferred it that way. One can only hope that things will improve, especially if such a tragedy were to strike again.
jennieblue22 2 years ago
of course they wanted everyone to continue to consume. because once you continue to live a lie, there are no questions to ask.
missteek08 2 years ago 2
She nailed it, that is totally right. A lot of people felt that way-- and expressed it in other ways.
lazarus0202 2 years ago
Totally agree with Tori! We have been and always looked at as consumers, especially black consumers. Stay thirting for the "fads" and your brain is mush from all the "advertising" of things NOT to focus on the real-ities of reality.
rjhodge77 3 years ago
great point---but the biggest fear was the fear of destroying the economy, and capitalism, and therefore the response to ....SHOP! 911 was about citizenship by 'extension'---citizens were by standarers who got into the way. The only thing citizens could do was join to army to the enemy where facts were distorted.
pearpeas 3 years ago
@pearpeas: You're right, and Morrison addressed this when she mentioned that part of the purpose of telling people to go out and shop after 9/11 was to keep the economy strong, thereby foiling part of al-Qaeda's purpose of destroying it. HOWEVER. the point was that was all that was said by the government - there was no mention of other acts of good citizenship such as checking on those around you.
jennieblue22 2 years ago
I know that there's more to this. Great point Toni made.
TSquared2001 3 years ago
hmm
heres22 3 years ago
No-- I don't agree that either. I would not attempt to tell people how to most nobly expresses their patriotism. That action (or lack of action) is the choice of the citizen. I think its more accurate to say that the message of the government after 9-11 was "live your life," or "Don't let the the terrorists disrupt your way of living."
tedlicious 3 years ago 2
Are you a libertarian? I just want be clear on your ideological perspective.
But the particular expressions of "live your life" that the government encouraged post 9-11 was to go shopping. Morrison suggests that that's not necessarily a bad thing. The problem is when being a consumer defines a call to patriotic duty.
Citizens choose to do what they want, no doubt. But market values should not primarily inform how government "leaders" regard the citizenry.
godisanegro 3 years ago
I don't want the government to come check on me, and make sure I'm okay. I don't look to the government when my life gets bumpy. My family and friends know the state of my life, and they don't need anyone to tell them when to ask me if I'm okay. If you were waiting for the government to tell you to check up on your mother after 9-11 something is wrong. Her point is flawed.
tedlicious 3 years ago
So you would agree that a call to consumerism is the most noble expression of patriotism?
godisanegro 3 years ago
@godisanegro i see what she's saying, but I never thought twice about it when people were saying go out and consume again - Of course people are checking up on their families, after that tragedy the government should not have to tell you that - THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING! People forget that this is a capitalist country and the efficency of the market is crucial to our development and advancement - without it we would be destroyed just like the terrorists wanted us to!
lol21432 1 year ago
@godisanegro
chrishanna236 1 year ago
Greetings! in the name of the Lord Jesus who is God most High.
Toni Morrison spoke the truth concerning the government's response to 9/11. But I disagree with the affirmation that God is a negro which is a lie. For God is a spirit.
God bless you always! in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Marquest Burton
Truthknower 3 years ago
Thanks for replying.
I wish you would seek to know where I'm coming from before offering condemnation. Just like we both agree with Morrison, we may agree on more (about God) than you think.
godisanegro 3 years ago
Greetings! in the name of the Lord Jesus who is God most High.
God is neither black nor white nor confined to any color under the sun. God is a spirit! And those whom seek to identify as a particular color then they are not serving the one true and living God of all creation.
God bless you always! in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Marquest Burton
Truthknower 3 years ago
So.........what's your take on the video?
godisanegro 3 years ago
If God is a negro, and God is love, than I'm a negro I guess. Ok.
Toni, baby, u rock. The sentiment that came through your books is all in this vid. If you ever do a vanity search and see this. Love ya. Thank you so much. Beloved.
JohnAsInJohn 3 years ago
sounds good to me!
godisanegro 3 years ago
I remember yelling to the tv when Giuliani said that. I am so 100 percent with her.
TracyInsomiac 3 years ago
911 the greatest talxing point ever
fascinating story
total damage to us economy
not that great
total damage of bush admins policies
that great
in any case it was one helluva shoc to Dow 36 000
of 1990s
now dow chemical is not that great nor is US manufacturing the lifeblood of our beloved country
8data 3 years ago
Dow Chemical, heart and brains of US manufacturing and marxets is in trouble
so is the American dollar and destiny as decider of world affairs
but the American way of life will never end even with all of its mistaxes, the United States is still too powerful to ever permanently xnoc out, but we need greater accountability
8data 3 years ago
Racism is idiocy
911 is still the great story of all American lives
Academics are Amusing
8data 3 years ago 2
Toni versus Condi
8data 3 years ago
Mrs. Morrison nipped it right in the butt: despite the tragedy of 9-11, all America STILL thinks about is the Almighty Dollar. Now THAT IS tragic!!!!
ursa41 3 years ago 2
what is tragic is that people are not able to think. people react to their feeling's the way they are told is best, because your average person is completely not in touch with thier feeling's. they have feelings but know idea why or were they come from.
wagfinpis 3 years ago
Very free and intellectual minds.. i admire the both of them
shammyshity 3 years ago 8
Cornel looks like he's quite the consumer. I wonder how much that suit cost, and how much he was paid for this "conversation."
DukeUniversity08 3 years ago
if he made a list of all the things he is in order of were his daily priorties are i am sure i am a consumer would not be any were near the top.
wagfinpis 3 years ago
Toni Morrison is a beautiful person.... Very deep point indeed...
ellonche 3 years ago 12
completely uncalled for
squirmypuppy 4 years ago
Toni Morrison is a very beautiful human being.
wuz352 4 years ago
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Personally I don't consider blacks as fully human. Seriously. IQ tests show on average that blacks have lower score. Evolution states that blacks are the missing link between apes and human.
Blacks were the first "People" but whites and Asians had to adapt to harsh environments, which strengthened their intellect. Ever notice that blacks resemble gorillas? same color, sloped forehead, fat lips, and flat nose. It's not just a coincidence. Not every race is exactly the same. Not PC, but true.
minnesotaviking22302 3 years ago
shes right
borntobelegend 4 years ago
This minor point is presented well. This little bit of thinking is not comparable to the enormous thoughts produced by 9/11 truthers like Richard Gage. This is the time for black America to stand up, and they will not, because they would have to align with whites against the elites. I will go so far as to call blacks traitors. They want money and bourgeois jobs. And if you speak the truth about 9/11, you will be fired, harassed, laughed at, and watch listed.
neverbeenfree 4 years ago
Do you really think that this is ALL she had to say about 9/11? Click the link in the video description to see if the says anything else that you might agree with.
godisanegro 4 years ago
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This incoherent hag deserved her Nobel Prize like Elvis deserved his black belt.
creeen1775 4 years ago
what was incoherent about this statement?
godisanegro 4 years ago
Not only was it coherent but profound. Your own ignorance should not be blamed on her. Take responsibility for you lack.
virgoice 4 years ago
I think her message is pretty clear: american capitalism doesn't CARE about anyone. a person's worth is only estimated in how much money he has.
apexpark 4 years ago
He's just trolling for controversy. You saw he made no reply. But this is what's truly sad about this country. Its so full of weak minds, so much like Rome before the fall.
iArsalan 4 years ago
Elvis was a black belt?
4ourthofjuly 4 years ago
Great autor... Love "Sula".
p4pisces1977 4 years ago
Kind of a softball, but yeah. The US government doesn't think of us as citizens, to them we're "Americans", and what are shown as the most 'American' qualities in comparison to other peoples' qualities? Militarism, unabiding faith and rampant consumerism. Not thoughtfulness.
PrezAlex 4 years ago
Toni Morrison is a living legend. Half of the people who have posted on this video have not even read her books so go say that mess on a KKK message board. Of course, you anglo, patriachal, oppressive, run from the real issues and turn everything into some propaganda-fueled quest to make others seem inferior in your weak attampt at feeling power asses will never understand her work. She has no poilitical affiliation, she speaks from the heart and the soul-something none of you have
Amarie4911 4 years ago 4
Toni morrison is smart ,but cornel west is an idiot..She put a profound yet simple viewpoint out there and it works w, but if anybody's seen any of cornel west's speeches, he 's unnecessarily dramatic in his speeches and fails to bring anything compelling in terms of originality.
maverickcul 4 years ago
I respectfully disagree Professor West inspires with his work and although he seems a little lofty at times his genius is definitely Dickensian in character. There is NO ONE else who's words are more poetically inspiring to date. Name someone or anyone for that matter on the right wing who has that command of the language or moral authority in his tone. It is not arrogance but Lincolnesque. This is a great man. Mrs. Morrison is a great woman.
cyclopticeye 4 years ago
I agree. Well said. We need more people who have the power of observation, and less people who only react out of fear due to their own intellectual inferiority complex.
jeruke 2 years ago 2
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Cornel West is one scary nigger!
buzzin1975 4 years ago
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corneil west face looks like the back side of my nuts, you jungle bunnies
plantbiochemist 4 years ago
your intelligence blows me away.
aipoihte 4 years ago 2
First, he is not a nigger.
Second he is only scary to you because he's a smart black man!
CivilR10 4 years ago 4
The lady makes a good point.
I live in NYC, and they were telling us to
"Go out and shop, take in a Broadway play"
...a few days after the devastation.
Verdenfell 4 years ago
OH please man. THAT is the TRUTH!!! Start watching the news every day, find news stories of what was happening during 9/11, and the research how this country's economic system works. IF Americans stopped shopping on the week of 9/11, it would have been a HUGE stock market crash.
donovonc 4 years ago
Her point is that we are not ONLY capitialist consumers. We are Americans and capable of much more than shopping as way to help our country.
fjenkins1 4 years ago 3
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Another politically-correct anti-white hatemonger.
LawrenceErnie 4 years ago
how is that anti white? or hatemongering? or politically correct? Did we even watch the same video?
fjenkins1 4 years ago
right this dude is crazy. she only spoke about 911
dski1 4 years ago
Not a thang has changed.
Clacci34 4 years ago
Amen, Tony and Cornel. We made no sacrifices, except the bodies and lives of 3300 American young people, our future, and the tens of thousands wounded who will never live life the way they were supposed to.
Except, of course, Republican children.
actor212 4 years ago
Truth crushed to the earth is redemptive. Cornell came is 1619, you arrived in 1620. Who needs to catch Delta, Brotha?
roseatlanta56 4 years ago
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Absolute thumbsucking bedwetting liberal gibberish! Why am I surprised though, look who she is allied with, Cornel West, the chairman of the "Blame America First Assn.". Hey Cornel if America is that bad then Delta is ready when you are uh my BrothahMan! Get out my face you jive ass triflin' muhFuckah!
toonzboss 4 years ago
Her point cuts deep. Deeper than we know.
metavoice 4 years ago
Shit! She speaks truth. I was there. I lived through that troubled period and I recall exactly what our president demanded of us. He asked us for the courage to spend and defend. What about our neighbors? ANd are we ok ourselves? Nothing doing! Don't ask, don't tell. Just spend and kill.
diepiriye 5 years ago
Go shopping. Don't think. Don't question anything.
PatriciaYee 5 years ago
Beloved is one of the top 6 or 7 greatest novels in American literature.
tg343441 5 years ago
you damn right. she uses perfect details. damn this lady is deep and cute. sike nah but she's cool in my book
dski1 4 years ago