A police state would be fine, as long as it at least was benevolent. A system which sole aim is the welfare of the people. The aim of this system is simply to protect this system. Circular and wonderfui.
I should have you arrested for expressing disloyalty to The Party. ;)
Seriously, what are you saying? You feel that laws shouldn't be enforced rigorously? If you're a criminal, then I bet you wouldn't like to live in a police state I guess.
Exactly, in a police state, all your liberties are gone, so freedom of speech would make you a criminal. Yeah, police states are GREAT. Everybody loves North Korea :)
Well, not necessarily ALL of your liberties! Just a few of them that you do not need so much. Things you'd also be happy to give up for the greater good, order and security!
Didn't your Benjamin Franklin say :"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Happiness. All Glory to The Party!" ?
(or maybe that's just what the historic documents are GOING to say when we're done with them ;) )
Actually no, he said "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." The exact opposite of what you said. You seriosley sound like a communist right now. I don't want a government telling me what I can or can't do. Look at some police states right now. North Koreans can't even leave their country, Don't even get me started on China and Soviet Russia. Can someone please back me up on this?
Did you read my entire post? I think it was rather obvious that I misquoted him purposely for the sake of humour. :)
No, not a communist. For example, a communist would believe that all men are equal in a very unusually literal sense of the word. No, you were right the first time.
Hahahha, that was the first time anyone actually asked to be backed up by someone during a debate in which I was somehow involved. Like I'd change my mind because two people were saying something instead of one :).
Listen to the quote Benjamin Franklin said, it's truth. You actually believe we should give up our liberties for security from the state? Who will protect us from the state then? Seriosley, look at North Korea, is that what you want? Human rights are gone in police states. You don't have the freedom to leave your country, you can't speak out against your totalaritian government, the government picks out the jobs for you. That's bullshit, fuck the government.
The people have to start standing up for each other and defend each other and take down the cops when they abuse their power. We have to send a message. The people outnumber the cops. It's time they realize that.
they are incapable at all.. y cant u guess see.. no leader gain support by criticising other party... however other then show others wat they are capable of... they onli show people they can rebel...
slowly win the supporters CSJ. one day even the officers would be ur supporters.. YOUTUBE is a media tat i believe one day would be closed to SDP. find a new media soon
SDP are not angry people but jst frustrated. Every step they take they get fined or arrested. In Singapore if u want to be a bankcrupt from a millionare, Just join an party against PAP.
That the SDP will do a better job than them?do we prefer a government like SDP,who are such angry/weird people..At the end of the day,the government can't please everyone.So it's up to you whether you will choose to be pleased or to be like the angry people(SDP)wasting your life away being angry and against the government(who has done an admirable job,you disagree?).EVEN IF one day it's not the PAP to rule Singapore,i would CERTAINLY NOT want Mr Chee Soon Juan and SDP to.
keep on asking "what charge, what charge" dont even know that it is illegal to hold protest withouy a permit. If you think you are being singled out then stand for elections and make youself heard. But no cant do that cause public wont vote for you.
The Police State? Yes! We are happy being like this. What can democracy do but give us trouble? Do you want us to end like like all the corrupted countries that has embraced 'democracy'? Would you be willing to trade one stable government for another 'democratic' one and lose out on security, economic growth, education etc? Make your choice you hypocrites.
No corruption in Singapore? Lee Kuan Yew is minister mentor, his stupid son is PM and his daughter-in-law is using our reserves. Big time corruption is all over.
Peaceful protesters? Are you all blind to the amount of commotion they are making in that video? Unnecessary repression? Not when these protesters are creating so much commotion and trouble out in the street for nothing despite being told repeatedly not to.
who is minding the minders..??..
power corrupts.. absolute power .. etc.. well U know the rest..
the constitution and our rights must be protected.. not allowed to be whittled away by any passing govt.. benevolent or not..
gathme 2 years ago
what makes you think that the PAP is benevolent.. is it just bcos they say so..??..
gathme 2 years ago
A police state would be fine, as long as it at least was benevolent. A system which sole aim is the welfare of the people. The aim of this system is simply to protect this system. Circular and wonderfui.
slauge 2 years ago
Fucking nazi, I can care for myself, thank you. I don't need a police state "looking out" for me
johntallen2 2 years ago 4
I should have you arrested for expressing disloyalty to The Party. ;)
Seriously, what are you saying? You feel that laws shouldn't be enforced rigorously? If you're a criminal, then I bet you wouldn't like to live in a police state I guess.
slauge 2 years ago
Exactly, in a police state, all your liberties are gone, so freedom of speech would make you a criminal. Yeah, police states are GREAT. Everybody loves North Korea :)
johntallen2 2 years ago 2
Well, not necessarily ALL of your liberties! Just a few of them that you do not need so much. Things you'd also be happy to give up for the greater good, order and security!
Didn't your Benjamin Franklin say :"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Happiness. All Glory to The Party!" ?
(or maybe that's just what the historic documents are GOING to say when we're done with them ;) )
slauge 2 years ago
Actually no, he said "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." The exact opposite of what you said. You seriosley sound like a communist right now. I don't want a government telling me what I can or can't do. Look at some police states right now. North Koreans can't even leave their country, Don't even get me started on China and Soviet Russia. Can someone please back me up on this?
johntallen2 2 years ago
Did you read my entire post? I think it was rather obvious that I misquoted him purposely for the sake of humour. :)
No, not a communist. For example, a communist would believe that all men are equal in a very unusually literal sense of the word. No, you were right the first time.
Hahahha, that was the first time anyone actually asked to be backed up by someone during a debate in which I was somehow involved. Like I'd change my mind because two people were saying something instead of one :).
slauge 2 years ago
Listen to the quote Benjamin Franklin said, it's truth. You actually believe we should give up our liberties for security from the state? Who will protect us from the state then? Seriosley, look at North Korea, is that what you want? Human rights are gone in police states. You don't have the freedom to leave your country, you can't speak out against your totalaritian government, the government picks out the jobs for you. That's bullshit, fuck the government.
johntallen2 2 years ago 2
Shocking! Absolutely shocking that they arrested that man for nothing. Even more shocking is that no one did anything.
iamjacobnz 2 years ago
The people have to start standing up for each other and defend each other and take down the cops when they abuse their power. We have to send a message. The people outnumber the cops. It's time they realize that.
brukaz73 2 years ago
we live in a police state
ne0nsurf 2 years ago
Be professional
If you think you are fighting for our rights
Do it professionally not like a hooligan.
chanhonam007 3 years ago
Democracy is dying all over the world, including the U.S. which claims to be a free country.
I don't know if there is really anything we can do about it as long as most people refuse to open their eyes.
0rip0 3 years ago 3
they are incapable at all.. y cant u guess see.. no leader gain support by criticising other party... however other then show others wat they are capable of... they onli show people they can rebel...
fujilar 3 years ago
slowly win the supporters CSJ. one day even the officers would be ur supporters.. YOUTUBE is a media tat i believe one day would be closed to SDP. find a new media soon
fyekr 3 years ago
SDP are not angry people but jst frustrated. Every step they take they get fined or arrested. In Singapore if u want to be a bankcrupt from a millionare, Just join an party against PAP.
fyekr 3 years ago
That the SDP will do a better job than them?do we prefer a government like SDP,who are such angry/weird people..At the end of the day,the government can't please everyone.So it's up to you whether you will choose to be pleased or to be like the angry people(SDP)wasting your life away being angry and against the government(who has done an admirable job,you disagree?).EVEN IF one day it's not the PAP to rule Singapore,i would CERTAINLY NOT want Mr Chee Soon Juan and SDP to.
obededom 3 years ago
Please stop the rape!
enikisser 3 years ago
Keep that democracy flame burning.
AdaStyle 3 years ago 3
They deserve it. A group of hypocrite always say want to speak for us. Pls, many Singaporean are happy here. We dont need Your help
jfs6875 3 years ago
Sorry but I had to point out the irony here, why are you speaking for 'us'. You may be happy but not everyone is.
lysjanvier 3 years ago
SDP is just plain horrible and incorrigible. How dare they attempt to challenge the invincible forces?
Singaporeans desire and need oppression. So let's just shut up and huddle in our cowardly little corners.
crazycoolidge 3 years ago 2
keep on asking "what charge, what charge" dont even know that it is illegal to hold protest withouy a permit. If you think you are being singled out then stand for elections and make youself heard. But no cant do that cause public wont vote for you.
ips6301 3 years ago
What permit? Did PAP CASE have permit to hold its rally?
beng2002 3 years ago 6
The Police State? Yes! We are happy being like this. What can democracy do but give us trouble? Do you want us to end like like all the corrupted countries that has embraced 'democracy'? Would you be willing to trade one stable government for another 'democratic' one and lose out on security, economic growth, education etc? Make your choice you hypocrites.
derfuhrer1984 3 years ago
No corruption in Singapore? Lee Kuan Yew is minister mentor, his stupid son is PM and his daughter-in-law is using our reserves. Big time corruption is all over.
beng2002 3 years ago 8
Derfuhrer's being sarcastic about singapore's situation, actually.
lysjanvier 3 years ago
wow ,not all are happy dude.
sovietforever 3 years ago 2
Such is the state of the corrupted Singapore Police Force.This reminds me of the Rodney King Incident.
CeeCorp 3 years ago
Peaceful protesters? Are you all blind to the amount of commotion they are making in that video? Unnecessary repression? Not when these protesters are creating so much commotion and trouble out in the street for nothing despite being told repeatedly not to.
mahawarrior 3 years ago
"and trouble out in the street for nothing despite being told repeatedly not to"
They say jump..u say how high.
PDLHH 3 years ago
it's strange that channelnewsasia didn't feature this and instead showed so much protest in TIBET.
leetahsar 3 years ago
Singapore is gone..
FrozenIdent 3 years ago
SHAME ON YOU PAP!!!
hotshibuya 3 years ago
Again, another sad day for Singaporeans. Please remember that the world is watching.
AdaStyle 3 years ago 3
Again, another sad day for Singapore.
AdaStyle 3 years ago 2
Sickening...
HenryWindgates 3 years ago 2
Sickening...
HenryWindgates 3 years ago 2
er...huh?
apjr5566 3 years ago