It needed to be picked straight up with a crane so as not to roll it over on its engine. Totally wrong way to do this!!! Place I worked at had one flip over in a wind storm. We used a cherry picker off a large salvage truck and it worked perfect because it picked it up high enough.
look on 2:04 and on. It is very clear the sole guy trying to hold the left wing down needs help to keep it down so it flips with that wing down but the two lazy aholes standing next to him don't want to move a finger and help him. I Flipped a few myself with wing down technique but one man is not enough. Was this in the USA?
sad,the guy most likely,was just like the rest of us,build your own plane and fly it,pure excitment.I think deep down we all know,things can go wrong real quick
The pane is an RV-4 powered by a Lycoming 0-360. Plane is an experimental kit built. The owner/pilot, Clifford Lamb, completed the plane in 2001. The RV-4 is designed with a very sturdy roll bar to protect the crew in a nose-over. The owner/builder modified this on his plane so that it was much lower (looked better). The modified roll bar only came up to the pilot's shoulders. He was fatally injured. This accident, like most in General Aviation, is a direct result of fuel starvation.
You can tell these goobers are not aircraft recovery experts. After NTSB finishes onsite investigation (control surface continuity, fuel quantiy, if any), first remove the wings, then use a cherry picker and load the fuselage onto a flatbed then strap the wings on. Take to secured NTSB inspection site for further inspection and engine teardown.
as a pro tow driver them dudes some fools bad recovery total Fail i dont even think they had a plan god just pick it strait up,plus my boss would flip if i dressed that way at a recovery job (pro)
All you do in a situation like this is connect at the CG point about a third of chord back from wing leading edge. It will not twist then. A similar thing applies to persons. The vertical GG of a person is at roughly belt level. To steady an unsteady person hold their waistband. Requires little effort. All Physiotheraphists know this.
There truck has a recovery boom on it . It can reach out far and quite high. They had the right pick point they just needed to get as close to directly over the tail as possible Then the truck could stand it on its nose pull away slow and lay it down softly. Had they actually stood the aircraft in the manner attempted it would have had an even greater fall then the corn dog eating cousin fuckers managed to demonstrate
winch, boom, wire rope does not equal smart as these buffoons have the understanding of mechanical forces of a 7 year old girl. Agreed, sad to see people died in that lovely RV4 but tough to see a fricking idiot giving it a lesson in stupid. Lay a 5 ft stick on the ground tie a 15ft rope to the far end pull it over the close end, sit on the ground and pull the rope holding it just 2 feet in the air and see if you can stand the stick up dumb ass. It will lift then rotate wow.
new small planes have airbags. unfortunately, useless, greedy FAA doesn't mandate airbags in ALL small planes. if airbags, collision avoidance system and BRS parachutes were made mandatory in ALL small aircraft, MANY people would have lived to see another day...its really a shame FAA does nothing.
Yeah, lives'd be saved all right because nobody'd be able to afford the planes anymore. Regulations do NOT always save lives, just drive up costs. The #1 cause of crashes is pilot error. No regulation or safety gear can stop that.
Judging by the fact that it is an aluminum low-wing tandem aircraft with hershey bar wings, it is most likely an RV. My guess, based on searching NTSB reports in that location and general time, is that it was an RV-8. The planes N number is N863Y, based on the NTSB accident database.
Holy Crap! I've never seen a bunch of wankers put out some much crappy information. I don't know what kind of plane it is, but I'm not going to show my ass by offering up so much crap.
You guys are all wrong on the aircraft ID. Clearly the paint scheme indicates it as a Handley-Page P-40E Peashooter from the Vietnam era. These also fought in the First Gulf war, also contributed to the Norwegian's winning the Battle of the Coral Sea.
These also trained John Denver how to fly a Rutan Model 61 Long EZ....
You all think you know what your aircraft recognition....You're all clowns!
the drawbacks of nosedraggers are far greater in a situation like this. the nosegear of an rv8a would never stand up to a landing site like we see here. in all honesty the van's series of aircraft are absolutely terrible for off field and emergency landings, they should be doing nothing but pavement landings. they just can't handle rough strips and soft terrain without flipping. fantastic cross country and aerobatic planes though.
there are situations where nosedraggers are more sutible than taildraggers. other than training. And in rv's the trikes are the real taildraggers. many rv6a have drug the tail wehreas the taildraggers have somethin to protect the tail.
Hi, I work for a company that does airplane crash recoverys all the time. The airplane is a Luscombe. The guys had no idea what they were doing. We fliped over a plane just like this one last year during EAA in Oshkosh, and did no damage to the plane. When you know how to do it, ther will be no farther damage to the aircraft
sorry!malibusunny you are wrong that is not a luscombe.a luscombe is a high-wing plane,this is clearly a low-wing plane looks like an rv experimental.
Sorry, you're wrong again. Mustang II is a side by side airplane, not tandem seating. The wings on a Mustang II are tapered along the last 8 feet, while this wing is a constant chord wing. Also, the Mustang II main gear comes out under the wing bolted on to the front of the main wing spar, this main gear is off the firewall. I know the Mustang II as I'm building one. I'm voting that it's an RV.
i liked the new intro and i really liked the end title! interesting watching them try to flip over . . . i have no idea, besides what they did or getting a crane, how to flip that over lol. nice shots!
no no no no
moogsoyoloo 5 months ago
It needed to be picked straight up with a crane so as not to roll it over on its engine. Totally wrong way to do this!!! Place I worked at had one flip over in a wind storm. We used a cherry picker off a large salvage truck and it worked perfect because it picked it up high enough.
Sstantial 8 months ago
A serious case of overkill with the recovery equipment. It's not really that hard to do.
SteveD328 8 months ago
Did anyone Die???
Creamsodagirl11 10 months ago
Might of been salvageable before these clowns had a go a righting it!
EvilTwinTT 10 months ago
RIP poor Pilot. But they from recovery are stupid :(
bessybessy 1 year ago
look on 2:04 and on. It is very clear the sole guy trying to hold the left wing down needs help to keep it down so it flips with that wing down but the two lazy aholes standing next to him don't want to move a finger and help him. I Flipped a few myself with wing down technique but one man is not enough. Was this in the USA?
CFITOMAHAWK2 1 year ago
Why don't ya get the two dick heads just standing there watching to help the other two guy's to hold the wingtips level???
carlosmurphy4u 1 year ago
sad,the guy most likely,was just like the rest of us,build your own plane and fly it,pure excitment.I think deep down we all know,things can go wrong real quick
inagod 1 year ago
do u have eney old vx's...i lovee them and realy want 1 sooo badly
pilot1115 1 year ago
The pane is an RV-4 powered by a Lycoming 0-360. Plane is an experimental kit built. The owner/pilot, Clifford Lamb, completed the plane in 2001. The RV-4 is designed with a very sturdy roll bar to protect the crew in a nose-over. The owner/builder modified this on his plane so that it was much lower (looked better). The modified roll bar only came up to the pilot's shoulders. He was fatally injured. This accident, like most in General Aviation, is a direct result of fuel starvation.
wesjdevans 1 year ago
@wesjdevans Most accidents in GA are caused by a loss of control/pilot error during manuevering flight, not fuel mismanagement.
FlightLevelHeaded 1 year ago
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0ldjunk 1 year ago
You can tell these goobers are not aircraft recovery experts. After NTSB finishes onsite investigation (control surface continuity, fuel quantiy, if any), first remove the wings, then use a cherry picker and load the fuselage onto a flatbed then strap the wings on. Take to secured NTSB inspection site for further inspection and engine teardown.
falcon1163 1 year ago
drongos!
BonKunU 1 year ago
as a pro tow driver them dudes some fools bad recovery total Fail i dont even think they had a plan god just pick it strait up,plus my boss would flip if i dressed that way at a recovery job (pro)
nomedmon 1 year ago
Pick it up by the prop.Thats strong and stable.
middsteve 1 year ago
that was painful watching them trying to flip it over... multiple fail
EveryWhichWayButStew 1 year ago
Perhaps f the two useless pricks, standing with their hands on their hips, gave a hand to hold the wingtips, they might have had a chance.....?
unapro3 1 year ago
Probably not really a high energy impact. But was most likely head trama by looking at the plane and it's position. Sad for the pilot.
techserv1028 1 year ago
These idiots can't flip this thing back over? Time to find another profession
shiftinthrutime 2 years ago
rv-4 or rv-8?
sblack48 2 years ago
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Small Gas power planes should be banned in the city limits.
therealstory1 2 years ago
Nope!
AV8R4HM 2 years ago
All you do in a situation like this is connect at the CG point about a third of chord back from wing leading edge. It will not twist then. A similar thing applies to persons. The vertical GG of a person is at roughly belt level. To steady an unsteady person hold their waistband. Requires little effort. All Physiotheraphists know this.
gunsandroses1111 2 years ago
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Looks like two monkeys trying to fuck a football...
carlosmurphy4u1 2 years ago
There truck has a recovery boom on it . It can reach out far and quite high. They had the right pick point they just needed to get as close to directly over the tail as possible Then the truck could stand it on its nose pull away slow and lay it down softly. Had they actually stood the aircraft in the manner attempted it would have had an even greater fall then the corn dog eating cousin fuckers managed to demonstrate
glass29tractor 2 years ago
winch, boom, wire rope does not equal smart as these buffoons have the understanding of mechanical forces of a 7 year old girl. Agreed, sad to see people died in that lovely RV4 but tough to see a fricking idiot giving it a lesson in stupid. Lay a 5 ft stick on the ground tie a 15ft rope to the far end pull it over the close end, sit on the ground and pull the rope holding it just 2 feet in the air and see if you can stand the stick up dumb ass. It will lift then rotate wow.
glass29tractor 2 years ago
google the registration of the aircraft and you'll get the full information of brand,type,owner...
BOYCOT4YT 2 years ago
Man all that hard work to make that plane and those idiots just keep droping it!
davetileguy 2 years ago
when will small planes have airbags?
davetileguy 2 years ago
new small planes have airbags. unfortunately, useless, greedy FAA doesn't mandate airbags in ALL small planes. if airbags, collision avoidance system and BRS parachutes were made mandatory in ALL small aircraft, MANY people would have lived to see another day...its really a shame FAA does nothing.
lavakava 2 years ago
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D7st 2 years ago
Yeah, lives'd be saved all right because nobody'd be able to afford the planes anymore. Regulations do NOT always save lives, just drive up costs. The #1 cause of crashes is pilot error. No regulation or safety gear can stop that.
eimb1999 1 year ago
Sad!
infowarrior67 2 years ago
Rans RV-4 and it doesn't look fatal.
infowarrior67 2 years ago
blunt force trauma to the head.
VX2100DV 2 years ago
@infowarrior67 Its a Van's RV-4, Not Rans
619viewloader 1 year ago
@infowarrior67 Your one of those dicks that think humans are made of steel,
SHUT YUR FACE AND BOB FOR AN APPLE !!
Oh and WAKE UP !!
SkuIICrusherGhost 2 months ago
It looks like an Extra with Wheel covers.
virginianboy1012 2 years ago
they should have clipped the wings and rolled it.they had to clip them anyway to get it on a truck or trailer.
robby844 2 years ago
rv-4 thats a fact i live on an airport in yelm right next to were this happened the guy who said 1/2 scale is f-ing retarded
mikez750 2 years ago
did he died?
DidHeDied 2 years ago
NO FUCKING SHIT.you proved your a full blown retard and you have now been reported.
robby844 2 years ago
Airplane was basically intact-canopy and pilot struck rock or high spot-too bad we are so fragile next to metal and earth.
johnnyjet33030 2 years ago
It looks like a 1/2 scale aircraft
Sharma17 2 years ago
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This is Sad Video.
The dead pilot probably built that plane so it has some of his essence on it.
If they bring it back to life, it will be like that Ghost car Christine!
I wouldn't fly in that plane even if my life depended on it becuase it will probably now be a HAUNTED PLANE!!! :\
EasternMerchant 2 years ago
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EasternMerchant 2 years ago
Looks like an RV-4
uspilot92 2 years ago
This video should be called 'Red necks who don't understand basic physics try to right plane'.
sixmagpies 2 years ago
Judging by the fact that it is an aluminum low-wing tandem aircraft with hershey bar wings, it is most likely an RV. My guess, based on searching NTSB reports in that location and general time, is that it was an RV-8. The planes N number is N863Y, based on the NTSB accident database.
mcjon77 2 years ago
Im voting rv4 and sinse its a experimental u can paint it anyway u want. Theres lotsa rv's panted like warbirds.
lowwpassjr 3 years ago
OMG I can't believe how silly this exercise is. I assume one of the guys there is from the NTSB.
RobertGary1 3 years ago
Holy Crap! I've never seen a bunch of wankers put out some much crappy information. I don't know what kind of plane it is, but I'm not going to show my ass by offering up so much crap.
GutpileCharlie 3 years ago
You guys are all wrong on the aircraft ID. Clearly the paint scheme indicates it as a Handley-Page P-40E Peashooter from the Vietnam era. These also fought in the First Gulf war, also contributed to the Norwegian's winning the Battle of the Coral Sea.
These also trained John Denver how to fly a Rutan Model 61 Long EZ....
You all think you know what your aircraft recognition....You're all clowns!
scottieshea 3 years ago
Thank you for the stats.
VX2100DV 3 years ago
The plane is an RV-4 tail number N6596X.
av8rdav 3 years ago
hey VX2100DV that airplane is an rans rv8.
knifeedge63 3 years ago
Thank you. It's the first and only time so far that I've seen this make/model.
VX2100DV 3 years ago
He meant Van's RV-8. It's a very popular kit plane, one of the most popular actually.
itsumonihon 3 years ago
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@knifeedge63 Its a Van's RV-4, Not Rans
619viewloader 1 year ago
drawback from a lowwing taildragger,,,,you flip them and theres not any roll protection,,and it breaks your neck.
tailwheelflier 3 years ago
the drawbacks of nosedraggers are far greater in a situation like this. the nosegear of an rv8a would never stand up to a landing site like we see here. in all honesty the van's series of aircraft are absolutely terrible for off field and emergency landings, they should be doing nothing but pavement landings. they just can't handle rough strips and soft terrain without flipping. fantastic cross country and aerobatic planes though.
itsumonihon 3 years ago
a nosedragger??????? WTF?
hjlkfhyjdl 3 years ago
aka tricycle gear airplane
itsumonihon 3 years ago
Also called a "training wheel".
RobertGary1 3 years ago
there are situations where nosedraggers are more sutible than taildraggers. other than training. And in rv's the trikes are the real taildraggers. many rv6a have drug the tail wehreas the taildraggers have somethin to protect the tail.
lowwpassjr 3 years ago
Physics for idiots.
bbtapb 3 years ago
why dont they just back over the god damn thing, there not doing a very good job righting it!
stetsito72 3 years ago
oh dear
SteamLocomotives1994 3 years ago 2
they´re trying to finish the airplane
igehring 3 years ago
these guys are bozos
hopntod 3 years ago 2
the airplane is an RV 4 kit built
cessnaflyer123 3 years ago
sorry I was wrong, it's a Rv 6 or 7. I jumped to comclusions. For somereason I saw it as a high wing. sorry
malibusunny 3 years ago
Hi, I work for a company that does airplane crash recoverys all the time. The airplane is a Luscombe. The guys had no idea what they were doing. We fliped over a plane just like this one last year during EAA in Oshkosh, and did no damage to the plane. When you know how to do it, ther will be no farther damage to the aircraft
malibusunny 3 years ago
sorry!malibusunny you are wrong that is not a luscombe.a luscombe is a high-wing plane,this is clearly a low-wing plane looks like an rv experimental.
TRANSFORMER2508 3 years ago 2
are you retarded..."its a luscomb" no it not you dumb ass
nmfan99 3 years ago
RIGHT ! these wankers destroyed it completely now!i would file an official complaint and put them responsable for 10 million USA $ in damage.
2HEXJUMPER 3 years ago
Nice footage! Too bad the towing operator had no idea what he was doing. It would have made the video even better.
GordyMari 3 years ago
Why only show half the event, did they get it upright or not??
unapro3 4 years ago
Eventually they did. Unfortunately I couldn't stay until then. It was late in the afternoon and I needed to get the footage to Seattle.
VX2100DV 4 years ago
Sorry I was wrong. The plane is a Mustang II non certified.
xgi36 4 years ago
Thank you. Two new models I'd never heard of . Being non certified, is the Mustang considered a kit plane?
VX2100DV 4 years ago
Sorry, you're wrong again. Mustang II is a side by side airplane, not tandem seating. The wings on a Mustang II are tapered along the last 8 feet, while this wing is a constant chord wing. Also, the Mustang II main gear comes out under the wing bolted on to the front of the main wing spar, this main gear is off the firewall. I know the Mustang II as I'm building one. I'm voting that it's an RV.
swooshcmk 3 years ago
The aircraft is a Mooney , certified and not a kit plane.
xgi36 4 years ago
moneys dont have fixed landing gears
clinton252 3 years ago
i liked the new intro and i really liked the end title! interesting watching them try to flip over . . . i have no idea, besides what they did or getting a crane, how to flip that over lol. nice shots!
AuntBee09 4 years ago
Thank you. I'm now using Apple's Final Cut Express HD so the titles and graphics should continue to evolve.
VX2100DV 4 years ago
:) nice job as always.. Not sure what kind of plane it is.. sorry! Like the new intro and outro ;)
kayyouman 4 years ago
Thank you!
VX2100DV 4 years ago