Bernard Poolman, cultleader of Desteni, EXPOSED

[Marbus0]

Bernard Poolman seems similar to Alister Crowley.

[patsyd80]

Would love to not wash my cock for a week and then ram it in the mouth of that chick with the bald head. Well least I can do the first part but I doubt Ill meet the baldy chick. What the hell is destini anyway?

[paranapoleon]

the presentment (music, chosen pictures) is in the style of boulevard news: not serious, not intelligent, not objective.

u suck

[bhertzbe]

I'm way into the chick.

I must meet her. It is my 'Desteni'. ;)

Get it - I'm destenned to be with her

Too bad Dr. Landy is dead. He'd be the only one who could snap her out of her fake trance.

But still, she is way hot, and I would like to meet her, no joke. Can anyone help me make that happen.

[Play671]

I always see that bald people, for them dreams are impossible and they allways have tyranny

[ELIAXTRO]

Cults are pathetic, but when it comes to Destonians... well...

they're extra pathetic.

[madJedi1]

WOW at last ..someone else who noticed these people.. Yup its a scam..

they claim to be nice people .. but IF you ask a question that they dont like they BAN your subscriptions.

The scariest part is how devotees will hoarde together and attack you if you disagree with there beliefs.. a hurtful, spiteful and destined to crumble group of fools

[Listendudeok]

@madJedi1 The incredible phenomenon about Desteni is that no matter what, even if Poolman commanded his followers to tattoo themselves in green all over and jump from a bridge, they would just do it, or at least support all of his absurd non-coherent outpourings. Why? What is there to find in absurd nonsense? It is mindboggling. But then again, only very naive, mentally of emotionally unstable people adhere to Desteni. They are about 100 core members, since years. Not getting anywhere. A cult.

[Listendudeok]

@madJedi1 If you didn't already notive: youtube has permanently banned all main Desteni channels, as well as deleted 3000+ videos! There is a reason for that. Desteni is a scam based on an illegal MLM or pyramid selling scheme. Desteni tried to move to Vimeo, but they got even stricter guidelines. No bogus fraud promotions. Desteni followers are convinced the outside world is some corrupt matrix, and our laws and rules don't apply to them. Crazy mad stuff. They are missing all bullshit detectors

[DavidTDuncan]

I have actually MET Bernard Poolman, in the flesh. He is not a preacher of hate, or a cult leader, because Desteni is not a cult. Desteni is a group of people who actually CARE and are dedicated to bringing about a new world to stop all abuse, all starvation, and all of the shittiness that is in this world at the moment, and I assure you that this is all there is to it. There are no hidden motives. You judge him and assume with no factual basis AT ALL in ANYTHING you say here. So fuck off.

[Listendudeok]

@DavidTDuncan You are really wrong, and "fuck off" is out of place here. You are the one being trapped already by a typical mindcontrol cult. If you don't fear critical thinking, if you want to grow some bullshit detectors, visit Ordo Templi Aurora's youtube channel, or the Rick Ross Cult Education Forum. Desteni is a scam. 

[DavidTDuncan]

@Listendudeok You can only trap yourself. "Trapping" people has nothing to do with Desteni. I mean the whole point is to free yourself from your own trappings that you have allowed within yourself. If you could understand that then you would understand what Desteni is all about. It is too bad that you don't at the moment. It is about freeing yourself of your ego and self-interest - if you don't get that then you are lost within your own ego. You do that to yourself. But I will look at the links.

[DavidTDuncan]

@DavidTDuncan Watch the video "Destonians and Self-Forgiveness" - it is a very clear perspective of what we are doing.

[Listendudeok]

2) @DavidTDuncan Poolman? How can you be so sure about "mindcontructs"? Poolman want to turn you into his mental slave; in a further step, you will hand over your money for bogus courses, for nothing at all. Desteni is going nowhere, since years. The members appear to be mental and emotionally unstable people, vulnerable people, who put all their hopes in a con. If you are serious, still open-minded, and really interested about freeing the mind, read "Cults in our midst - the hidden menace".

[DavidTDuncan]

@Listendudeok Bernard never turned anyone into a mental slave or has the intention to - that is completely missing the point - the point is self-responsibility and learning to become self-directive. If people are looking up to Bernard and becoming dependent on him then they have to wake up and start directing their own lives. About the members, it looks like you haven't met many yet - they are amongst the most self-assured, courageous and caring people I have met.

[Listendudeok]

3) @DavidTDuncan Like I said, if you still have got independenet thinking brain cells, you will be amazed at the accordances described in this great book about mindcontrol cults by Margaret Thaler Singer. It seems Bernard Poolman, the leader on top of this pro-profit, capitalistic, privately owned little scam called Desteni, with its hidden financial records, just looked up how to manipulate vulnerable, naive folks into the fold. Desteni is almost a parody of a cult! Hair shaved off already?

[DavidTDuncan]

@Listendudeok I will have a look at the book. But you are still missing the point about Desteni, wrongly assuming that it is a 'cult'. About making money - I don't think there is anything outrageous about what they do. We live in a world where you need money to be able to eat and live, day by day. Hidden financial records? OK then, why don't you give me all of your financial records? Don't be ridiculous. And no, I still have my hair. That was more to do with overcoming self-definition and fears.

[Listendudeok]

1) @DavidTDuncan "But you are still missing the point about Desteni, wrongly assuming that it is a 'cult' - Please. You don't seem to be either stupid, nor illiterate. Desteni is almost a parody of a cult to the rest of the world apart from those more of less 100 core members; a number which has not changed since years, although Desteni had 3000+ videos here on Youtube, which were deleted! There is a reason for that. It is not because of the "evil system", but because Desteni is a SCAM, a LIE,

[Listendudeok]

2) @DavidTDuncan Desteni is based on a MLM or pyramid selling scheme; those are illegal in most countries. Youtube also banned the main Desteni channels.Then Desteni moved to "Vimeo", and got banned there as well, because the Vimeo guidelines are even stricter than youtube. No illegal MLM or illegal pyramid selling schemes allowed! That is not because the "system" is "evil", but because Desteni sells crap to people! It is a trap! It is really amazing how nothing seems to save you from being had.

[Listendudeok]

3) @DavidTDuncan You must be very careful: as you begin to adhere to the fold, you will develop some kind or pride, and will be ashamed when finally getting the picture that this scam is a mindcontrol/manipulative trap by a fraudster without any compassion or mercy for vulnerable, naive people who have a weak spot for esoterics. The deeper you go, the more you will fight against truth seekers and sceptical people with common sense, because you will be too ashamed to give up. Seriously.

[Listendudeok]

1) @DavidTDuncan You are making a fundamental mistake: you confound the pretentions to get rid of "trappings" by the scam of Desteni with real riddance of "trappings". Your random pretentions about my persona (someone you don't know) is also peculiar for people being influenced by a mindcontrol cult. "Lost within my own ego"? And what about you? Are you lost within Bernard Poolman's ego? I really don't hope so. How can you just blindly repeat the Matrix-myth propagated by some random guy like

[DavidTDuncan]

@Listendudeok Giving up your ego and giving up the ideas you have about yourself, which are not real, has always been here and available, long before Desteni. I understood this a little even before finding Desteni, but found that Desteni presented the tools to actually doing this very specifically and with much more understanding than I had ever seen. It is not so much about Desteni as it is about finding who you really are as life, instead of forever existing as a false illusory self.

[DavidTDuncan]

@Listendudeok 2) That is the basic premise of Desteni. I haven't started the I Process yet but it goes deep into how we have constructed ourselves as the mind, so you can understand clearly how it works and free yourself of the constructs. You don't understand the liberation there is when you free yourself of these constructs and breathe as yourself. Understand - I would be doing this already if I had understood how to do this myself, without Desteni - because it has always been here.

[DavidTDuncan]

@Listendudeok Desteni isn't the ONLY WAY to get rid of the trappings within yourself. It is simply that Desteni is a group of people who really understand their shit, and provides very clearly brilliant tools in order to do this. Self-forgiveness has always been here. The ability to give up your ego has always been here. But never has the understanding of specifically how to do this for real ever been so clearly presented. If you can't see this then don't judge Desteni, because you don't get it.

[0rdoTempliAurora]

@DavidTDuncan Numerous forums, blogs and YT videos have debunked Desteni and their scam 'equal money system'. There's a thread on Desteni over 100 pages long at the Cult Education Forum. Countless commentators, including ex-members of well-known cults, the Church of Scientology and Jehovah's Witnesses have identified Desteni as a destructive cult.

What you've written here to try and counter this is repeat basic information found on Desteni-run websites.

[DavidTDuncan]

@0rdoTempliAurora Dude, I write from my own experience. I have applied breathing, letting go, forgiveness and see that it works, and opens me up to myself. It's as simple as that. The tools that have been provided by Desteni I have found extremely useful in supporting me to do what I was working on doing before I even found Desteni in the first place, which is giving up ego and becoming who I really am. I was always interested in this. It's not my problem that you don't get it.

[0rdoTempliAurora]

@DavidTDuncan But I do get it. I know exactly what you're talking about.

If the "tools provided" were not of some use to people then they would not be any use in providing them. That much is obvious.

[Listendudeok]

7) @DavidTDuncan publicly harrasses and humiliates a young woman in front of the camera, always safely hiding himself, of course. Because the demands absolute openness of any members, he demands absolute control over your life, relationships, even to intimacy. He mocks her, asking her stupid questions, then asking her about her sexual preferences. If she likes threesomes. If she masturbates. Etc. I know SimulacronX, and he's got the videos archived. Desteni removed them afterwards, because

[Listendudeok]

8) @DavidTDuncan in Germany for instance, you could get sued for sexual harrassment for this bullshit. Are you really sure you know Desteni well? You will see: the more you get lured in, the more you will distract the attention towards this cult at all costs. Transparency seems to be a big problem at Desteni. Why don't you just try to read about all this crazy story at the Rick Ross Cult Education Forum? Why is it such a problem for you to understand there are scammers and fraudsters?

[DavidTDuncan]

@Listendudeok I will respond to your comments in a few days. Still lots of misunderstanding here, unfortunately.

[Listendudeok]

@DavidTDuncan It seems to me no matter what, you will stick to mr Poolman. I don't understand. But to each his own. I am happy, and free, and by all common sense, I mean well, and I just see non-coherent stuff at Desteni, absurd pretentions, or trite methods of self-improvement. It seems logical that Bernard Poolman is a manipulative fraudster. No other ways to tell it, and again, I don't mean to be offensive. I tried to bring it home to you. Like others said, Desteni has been debunked.

[cojobo34]

@DavidTDuncan Agree with this. The PRACTICAL SELF APPLICATIONS offered at Desteni (for FREE btw) have helped me find BALANCE, Stop THOUGHTS (which are ROOT of EVIL and ALL DIS-EASE) Stop EMOTIONS and EGO--therefore Stop being SELFISH, and Embrace TRUTH and EQUALITY/LOVE THY NEIGHBOR--All of these things/techniques/Ideas are found in OTHER PLACES as well, but Desteni and Bernard rooted out the Selfishness motives in them, and offer BRUTAL HONESTY that most people/ego's cant handle.

[F0reseer]

@cojobo34 It's ridiculous to not be selfish. our primary drive for survival is self-preservation. sure overly selfish can be terrible, but you don't need anyone to tell you that. Stop thoughts, emotions and ego? sounds identical to Zen Buddhism to me. A word of warning: if you don't use it, you lose it (I'm talking about the thoughts and emotions...you know, the things that make us human.)

[DavidTDuncan]

@0rdoTempliAurora I don't care about these 'debunkings', by hundreds of people who don't get it themselves. All I can say is that the tools provided are effective and they work, and I have realized through my own application that what Desteni is sharing is real. I have actually BEEN to the Farm over there - there is nothing cult-like about it. I bet none of these 'debunkers' have. I am in awe of how much of a fuss has arisen purely out of misunderstanding and jumping to conclusions.

[0rdoTempliAurora]

@DavidTDuncan There hasn't been any misunderstanding. Everybody already knows the techniques employed by Desteni are real. The whole point of them is that they can have certain effects.

[Listendudeok]

9) @DavidTDuncan Do you really need the trite proposals ("breathing", "equality", "equal money") of some random, obscure guy with an isolated farm (also typical) to feel better about yourself? How come you defend this, pardon me please, utter nonsense crap cult? Have you got no bullshit detectors at all? Can anyone walking down the street talk you into self-improvement techniques? Desteni has been debunked a long time ago by many, many people, blogs etc. How come you don't get it at all?

[Listendudeok]

10) @DavidTDuncan If you're so in love with Desteni, at least, please, for your own sake, just don't hand over your money to them. It will just disappear. Once for instance, Poolman called his sheeple to hand over money for some "second farm" to purchase. But it never happened. There is no second farm. The money by his willing disciples just disappeared into the hands of him, the absolute leader on top, and his family. Do you understand? Last but not least, let me quote the following:

[Listendudeok]

12) @DavidTDuncan This could also be Bernard Poolman, because he quite exactly sounds the same. Could you please dwell in this, think about it, again, for your own sake? You do realise those poor victims of the notorious "Peoples Temple" cult also thought about bettering themselves, to get rid of "system" trappings, to better the world? That hey really believed in "Equality" as well? That the leader Jim Jones also admired Hitler, Manson and others like Bernard Poolman? Please try. Best, L.

[Listendudeok]

4) @DavidTDuncan Like OrdoTempliAurora (one of the best Desteni-debunking channels, go check it out! - All the truth about the scam of Desteni, all the truth behind the real ideology in this mindcontrol cult). Or visit the pros: the Rick Ross Cult Education Forum. Very important thing: the main rule to lure people into such cults is to make absolutely sure that the victim does not notice anything, does not notice any change. Like you are alrady convinced. I have to repeat myself a bit, but

[Listendudeok]

5) @DavidTDuncan do you realise there are scams, cults, criminals, manipulators in this world? You do realise mindcontrol cults exist? Why don't you join the cult of Scientology? Not so modern and trendy anymore? Because Scientology resembles Desteni a lot. Desteni also specialises in self-improvement. You also do realise some guys can just PRETEND things, without any substance behind it? Do you know that Bernard Poolman (the totalitarist commander of Desteni - talking about EQUALITY)

[Listendudeok]

6) @DavidTDuncan is an avid admirer of Adolf Hitler? In the series "I AM HITLER" and "In the Dimensions" I think it was called, Poolman visits Adolf Hitler "in the dimensions" an helps him forgive himself for his crimes! That is not only absolutely ridiculously absurd, but also really repulsive. In "The Jew in every man", Poolman openly declares his antisemitism. The longtime fighter against this cult, youtube user "SimulacronX", features informations about a video here, where Poolman

[DavidTDuncan]

@Listendudeok The whole point of Desteni is to give people the tools to free themselves of their own ego and mindconstructs which is not who you really are, and to change the world system to that which actually supports all beings. It is simply a group of people who are doing these things. It isn't a cult. If you understood what it means to let go of ego and start to be who you really are as life, then you would understand the material. Give yourself a chance.

[JohnnyThund3r]

Notice how she keep repeating, and repeating the same things over and over again? Yeah, these people are totally mind controlled. Now their pushing for chip implants.

[dcompiler]

Super lame video. Turn down the fucking volume.

[willie1490]

ahahahaha all this hate on him,

pre-program design into thinking what a psychopath is suppose to look like,

ahahahahahahahah fuckin puppet bitch ass slaves to the elites ahahahahaha

ahahahahahahifdsjbfjbasjbvjbaj­bvahahahahahahahahahaha

[felicityknickerhead]

I hate the music and the Demonizing that runs through this post...so childish! it says more about the person who posted it than anything else...offensive

[cojobo34]

TRUTH is Desteni is not a for-profit corp--Ive never sent money, and had access to all of the vidz right here on youtube.. Bernard does not display emotional/spiteful anger, he displays intolerance to selfishness and egos from robots like you, who are scared shitless about facing yourself outside of your own ego. The MESSAGE of Desteni is EQUALITY and ONENESS, how you get there is your choice, but practical applications and self-forgiveness are offered. But you want to be special, not equal.

[Machew4Life]

@cojobo34 very cool dude, very true

[Listendudeok]

@cojobo34 You are so wrong. Desteni is a hardcore brainwasing cult. For the reality behind this cult, visit Ordo Templi Aurora's channel, or SimulacronX, or the pros, the Rick Ross Cult Education Forum. Poolman is a Hitler-hero-worshipping egomaniac who hates the Jews. They are indeed only interested in your money by selling bogus courses. Desteni is based on an illegal pyramid selling scheme, or MLM scheme called "Desteni I Process". That's why they got kicked out from Youtube and Vimeo. Wakeup

[carnivourlocust]

@Listendudeok 1st people: you need to know that there are millions of people advertising their products through yt and they don't get banned. I think that you've misunderstood all of this. does it really matter if he's a fraud or if he's a cult and all of that shit ... what truly matters is the message. and NO ... I not for nor against anything. I'm just saying: this world already IS fucked up ... and YOU PEOPLE try to save it from those who fight for YOUR asses? you just cannot comprehend shit!

[Listendudeok]

@carnivourlocust Alright, stick to some "save the world" or "oh the world is so unjust for letting people starve and we must change it message. How original and non trite, eh? The message is used to lure guys like you in, who got no bullshit detectors on, don't know how mindcontrol cults work, who are very, very naive. I am serious about this. Are you aware there are cults out there at all? Dont' tell me you stick to any obscure guy telling you he wants to save the world, just like that, please.

[Listendudeok]

@carnivourlocust Look, it's so very simple: Desteni is a SCAM. Period. If you don't get it, I'm sorry for you. Desteni, in reality, you know, behind the cheap words, have hurt a lot of people already. Scientology, do you know them? They also pretend to save the world. Will you advert and stick to all 7000 brainwashing scam cult out there? Please don't tell me so. You can't just believe anything coming your way to fool you. Desteni is an old story by now, and almost everyone gets it is a scam.

[carnivourlocust]

@Listendudeok hmm I'll give it a thought ... anyways ... thank you for you effort ... for replying to my comment. I have this issue ... everything they say ... I understand and agree with it because lots of things they say ... it is the truth ... but when I was about to join them they wanted money ... well of course ... everything is based on money today but ... I just don't know because in one way ... they appear true, but in the other way, they appear fraud. why do YOU address them as a fraud?

[Listendudeok]

@carnivourlocust Words are cheap. Just because someone tells some words, does not mean he means well and is good. I'm sure you follow me so far. Please visit Ordo Templi Aurora's channel for the truth behind this scam. You may also take a look at the Rick Ross Cult Education Forum, the pro's in all things destructive groups, sects, cults, scams, and brainwashing. All the story of Desteni is to be found there. Other channel: SimulacronX. Believe me, Desteni is not honest.

[xerato3]

@Listendudeok Are you familiar with the concept of channeling? Nothing new under the sun..; and who in the name speaks about a cult..she's just a girl channeling, beings she channels can be channeled by anyone having the ability to trance-channel..

[cojobo34]

@Listendudeok Truth is you dont have the balls to be honest with yourself about anything, and are completely brainwashed by your own ego. I feel sorry for you kiddo. Youve become a mind robot, and youre too selfish to give a shit about anything but your own artificial desires. Waking up is realizing that we are all One Here, and that the only solution to this miserable piece of shit of a world we all created is to take responsibility, be honest about it, face ourselves, and get to Equality.

[Listendudeok]

1) @cojobo34 So I "don't have the balls to be honest with myself about anything", I am "completely brainwashed", "kiddo", "mind robot", "selfish", "artificial desires", and it is a "miserable piece of shit of a world"? Apparently, you can only resort to personal attacks, offending me, yet you don't know me at all. You urgently need to look behind the curtain of random people coming your way pretending things. Words are cheap, you know. The scam of Desteni is not going anywhere, since years.

[Listendudeok]

2) @cojobo34 Are you aware Desteni is a typical capitalist, pro-profit, privately owned company with a leader on top with absolute say over everything? Talking about equality. Financial records are hidden. As you offend and attack me for warning people about one of the worst results of free capitalism, which is a scam like Desteni for instance, taking money for nothing, taking time, souls, lives, you are doing what cults do best: you divide and separate people. That is the blueprint of all cults

[Listendudeok]

3) @cojobo34 For your own sake: for the whole truth behind that typical mindcontrol and scam called Desteni, please visit Ordo Templi Aurora's youtube channel, or the Rick Ross Cult Education Forum. As opposed to this repulsive cult fraudster Bernard Poolman, I do this for free, because I mean good. It is about you. What I don't understand: why do you guys just adhere to some random guy coming along, babbling about "equality" etc., and just believe anything so naively? Grow bullshit detectors.

[Listendudeok]

@cojobo34 Oh and I forgot to tell youtube deleted 3000+ Desteni videos as well. They are not getting anywhere. Your attitude is hilarious: imaginge some random obscure asshole coming along telling you he wants to save the world, equality and blah blah, and you just buy it. Come on. PS: Desteni is indeed a pro-profit, typical capitalistic, privately-owned business. Financial records are hidden. There are about 7000 mindcontrol cults out there, which one will you choose? They all pretend the same.

[cojobo34]

@Listendudeok Youtube deletes a lot of videos that do not conform to that of the Corporate Capitalist interests they adhere to, so Im not suprised by that bud. I have considered many religions and ideas from many people, but none of them can actually be applied practically, and more importantly, none of them actually consider whats best for EvERYONE on earth, only a select few and their bank accounts. ive never sent money to desteni, yet i would bc they stand for a solution for everyone.

[Listendudeok]

@cojobo34 To "consider what's best for everyone on earth", you can only get into politics. It's the only way. If you only could see behind the curtain of that little scam called Desteni, which is going nowhere, since years. You accuse youtube of "Corporate Capitalist interests"? Youtube is primarily a platform to display videos, by everyone. But in the reality of the outer world, there are laws, and rules. You are not allowed to steal, rape, etc. Desteni is based on an illegal pyramid scheme.

[Listendudeok]

2) @cojobo34 Are you actually aware at all that Desteni is a typical capitalist, privately owned, pro-profit business with hidden financial records? That there's one leader on top with absolute say over everything? Please think about it, for your own sake. Desteni has hurted lots of people already, alienating them, separating them from friends, family, society, their lives, their money. I'm really sorry you are not aware about mindcontrol cults, and exploitation. Read "Cults in our midst". Book.

[AyeSkyeTech]

isolation is the best way to keep people in slavery.

and he (bernard poolman) seems to be doing a good job at that.

[chewmais]

@ desteni u mad bro? Lol

[uchihaclan95]

If this is true then why do all members of Desteni have emotions and complete control over themselves?

[elhomosatirus]

he looks like hanibal lecter

[AyeSkyeTech]

@elhomosatirus Definately Hannibal Lector

[solex4plescar]

....i think you missed out the main statement of desteni where desteni members decided they will do whatever it takes to establish a better world for all, because nobody else is. being opposed to that or disagreeing with that just states that you are selfish and are apparently not interested in a better world for all beings, so you will do whatever it takes to stop desteni.

[nenabonitalasabrosa]

its not true what you say about the women, i have already check it , you are liying

[nenabonitalasabrosa]

are you aware of what you are saying? bernard wants people to be enslaved in a farm?...you have a to go to check your self men, you have lot of fear on you, take it easy alright? lol

[SimulacronX]

FUCK DESTENI

[RooneyHimself]

To any Destonians commenting on this Video in the future

What's gotten you guys all pissed off all of a sudden? D you beLIEve that if you put in enough effort, that Youtube will bow down to your demands, or are you living out Bernard Poolman's bitter commands.

Also, Bernard won't get nearly as far on Vimeo as he did on Youtube, you can bet your life on that one right there

[Chansulus]

@RooneyHimself Bernard Poolman has the energy of the earth in him we serve him with all are love and light spirit .be near him his energy will heal your weary harts

[RooneyHimself]

@Chansulus

I think you don't understand who your talking to.

I am relaxed, too relaxed, if you ask me, and I'd very much like a job(or several), without going through all the hassle of paperwork and all that other junk. Put simply, it's "NO STRINGS ATTACHED"

Is this message clear enough for you?

[808pablo]

keep living in fear and you will never conquer fear and stand up for a better world. All of you drown in your own fears and shit that your own mind is creating. you have all SCAMMED yourselves. with your on self deception. fools you are and live fools you shall die for no one but yourself and ourselves create our fate.

[808pablo]

pussies all of you, drowning in your own shit. the only way to change this world is change ourselves. as long as you all talk shit over youtube, talk shit about others, talk shit about humans, and what ever you think of etc. you will only continue to fill this world with shit that comes from your ass and mouth. why are excuses like assholes? because everybody has one. everyone here on this planet is responsible for the current existing conditions of earth. keep living in fear pussies.

[No1warp9]

@808pablo [keep living in fear pussies]

Are you still using or relying on money for anything...for food, clothing, shelter, internet, shaving lotion for your head, etc? If so, you're no different than the rest of us enslaved, misguided, 'fearful pussies' Let's see all you desteni folks put your rhetoric to the test, face your fears, and stop using money. Poolman and his naive and acrimonious followers have nothing on the wisdom and knowledge of indigenous groups who still live off the land.

[808pablo]

have you ever asked yourself what is not a scam in this world? practically everything. you are a fool. Desteni is just a group of people giving themselves a purpose and meaning much like every other human being and group on this planet. No matter how much you try to escape or rebel, existing on this planet fucks over everyone. and who has created all the scams and fucked up shit on this planet? human beings. all of you are stupid pussies. Oh im scared desteni is evil!

[TheLovesoul1]

i'd like to watch the world burnΥΦΥ○◎

[808pablo]

people like you are the reason why the interent is full of crap becuase you have so much crap in your mind that you just have to let out because it eats away at your mind that you just have to post for all the world to see. you contribute to the crap of this world. crap is how you live crap is how you die. next time you take a shit in the toilet take a good look at it BECAUSE IT CAME FROM YOU. good night everyone.

[SimulacronX]

@808pablo Aehm... dude, Desteni is a dangerous scam. That's all. I think you haven't quite got it together here. But it's real simple: It is a scam, just like Scientology. They, btw, resemble Desteni a lot.

[808pablo]

all you guys do is talk shit about people over the internet and cyber bully. go read a book or paint a fucking picture. go do something constructive with yourselves. all of you are losers who are obsessed/ possessed with the thoughts of hating on desteni and trying to figure out who bernard poolman is. shame on all of you. the gods frown upon you all, and the demons you have created are eating you alive and you have no idea that you are creating them. haha all of you have failed.

[808pablo]

besides anybody with a face can make a demonic or evil looking expression. how do you know he wasnt just joking around when he took this pic? people post pictures of themselves making evil faces all the time. not to to mention stupid drunk or stoned face photos. you guys are dumb for making fun of him. you are the ones that are fucked up. ignorant faggots making fun of people just living their lives and making a living like every other living being on this planet.

[808pablo]

why do you hate desteni so much? they are no different from you they are human too. break down the word culture. CULT ture. all forms of religion are cults, all counties are cults with their own CULTures. gangs and cults rule the world you fools and your just another person giving yourself meaning and your own power by hating on someone or something to make yourself seem more Superior. what did desteni do to you personally?

[Stardomchild]

I don't mean to judge anyone but this guy does have cold eyes and really looks demonic.

[Stardomchild]

@EasternMerchant That's true and you are right - sorry to judge this man by one photo.

[ishotninobrown001]

all hes trying to do is mimic cats like JJ, CM, and MW...i mean come mr poolman is it really worth it it always starts with the dude who cant get a girl in school nor get laid on prom night in addition to not making the high school football team cause u were jus too dam skinny i mean come on man come on man come in the hood with that shit instead of a cult it would be a 187 on your ass fuckin lame

[phREaker419]

Whoa. He looks like Hannibal Lecter.

[SimulacronX]

I hope the fucker ends up in prison.

[tmafkap]

@brigandscholar Poolman digs his own grave, with a little help from his cult.

[tmafkap]

@brigandscholar Cuz he ain't that important, that's why. Wouldn't perform a three day voodoo feast just to kill a barking dog that disturbes your siesta, would ya?

[greenghost2008]

oh its alittle bald "CHICK" oh man ok I feel more secure in my sexual orientation.

[No1warp9]

@RooneyHimself Send me a pic and I'll ask her.

[No1warp9]

@fzappa007 So you must believe the world we live in today is not chaotic and anarchistic already? Look around you. This planet has never before experienced such a level of human destructiveness as it is today. Money allows insane people to rule the world...and to destroy and create as much mayhem as is desired...and still get away with it because they're "rich & famous", "the President", "top CEO", "famed investor & banker", "the president/founder of X Corporation", or "brilliant businessman".

[southanjuna]

For me Desteni explains exactly in what shit I am/we are and it offers a (the) solution.

If you are not willing to see this it is your problem.

THIS is my choice.

[No1warp9]

@southanjuna You don't need Desteni/Poolman or some guru to explain why human society is the way it is. Any fool can figure that out. It is not because war & violence is in our true nature that human history seems to repeat itself, but because the trusting majority blindly and persistently follows the rule of a cunning minority. By eliminating the monetary system & all governing bodies, and cooperating globally, humanity can be on its way to creating a paradise on earth.

[southanjuna]

@No1warp9 and what is your proposal to reach that goal of paradise on earth? Do you really have better suggestions?

[No1warp9]

@southanjuna It's not my place to tell people what to do. It's up to them. Achieving paradise on earth is a global effort, and no one should be in a position to govern over anyone. However, a good START would be for people to stop looking for a leader to follow...stop voting, stop listening to politicians/presidents/etc., refuse military service, refuse destructive & wasteful jobs, refuse vaccines & medical drugs, refuse to eat junk food/GMO's/packaged foods, buy wisely, live simply...etc..etc.

[southanjuna]

@No1warp9 And how long you estimate will it take with your "method" to create heaven on earth?

[No1warp9]

@southanjuna [And how long you estimate will it take with your "method" to create heaven on earth?]

Instantly. The power elite are nothing without the people's support & labor. They NEVER really mattered. How will they impose their will upon anyone if we simply stop participating in their make-believe world? Walking off the job is a great example of how much power people have. It's important first, however, that people refuse military service. This will remove their power to enforce rules.

[southanjuna]

@No1warp9 Sounds like a practical instant solution. ^^

[fzappa007]

@No1warp9

you're an idiot, no really you are, your "method" will produce NOTHING but CHAOS and ANARCHY you fucking moron.....go work on desteni's farm you retard with other mokes just like you.

[No1warp9]

Poolman wants to start his own civilization...of course with himself as King. He also believes in micro-chipping everyone, and that our fears about the chip are irrational. What does that tell you?

[southanjuna]

@No1warp9 It tells me that our fear about the chip is irrational. We as humanity decide if we want to microchip us - it's up to us. When we fear microchip we simply fear ourselves.

[No1warp9]

@southanjuna And what does it tell you about those (like Poolman) who want to microchip everyone?

[ChristianStahl666]

@No1warp9 Firstly, nobody wants to microchip anyone except maybe our current governments. Secondly, If one look at it with no emotional influence or fear one has to admit that micro shipping has practical values - that's why it is already used to chip dogs for example. And if one look at it in a broader perspective one can see that we all have a biological micro chip implanted which is called DNA. To say that Bernard Poolman wants to micro chip everyone is absolute nonsense.

[No1warp9]

@ChristianStahl666 He says it in the article "A MicroChip Solution for Human Honesty" on his website. Here's a quote...

"To have that linked also to a central-Management System using a Micro-chip. Why would one do that? Because you really can’t trust Humans to actually manage it - because Humans has already proven themselves to be Corrupt. Humanity requires a System that is based in physical-Control to actually prevent Humans from Harming each-other."

Sounds like a fear-based proposal to me.

[southanjuna]

@No1warp9 The proposal is not based on fear but on the fact that one cannot trust each other. So why not use the micro chip for our benefit?

Ever wondered why no Desteni member is micro chipped? Desteni is working for a solution to make the human trustworthy - and if there is no other way to do it then even micro chipping is welcome.

[No1warp9]

@southanjuna [The proposal is not based on fear but on the fact that one cannot trust each other]

One of the reasons Poolman wants the chip is to prevent people from "harming each other" (his words). That's not only distrust, that's fear of people. Fear is why people lock their doors at night.

[Ever wondered why no Desteni member is micro chipped?]

That's because it's not widely available yet. But when it is, Poolman will want all Desteni members (if the cult still exists) to accept it.

[No1warp9]

@southanjuna By the way, Desteni people have been fooled into believing fear is a negative & harmful trait. This is an unhealthy & erroneous viewpoint. Also, there are different kinds & degrees of fear. Without fear, we'd not have survived as a species. It's an important survival trait that keeps us on our toes through all man-made & natural events. Living in constant fear or harboring irrational fears is, however, unhealthy. Money & microchips represent a fear- & slave-based system of control.

[No1warp9]

@ChristianStahl666 Also, anyone who wants to micro-chip the masses is demonstrating a fear and distrust of human motives...and, fear of losing something (eg, power, control, property, possessions, etc.). And if Poolman feels micro-chipping will be necessary, then he must not have much faith in the "equal money" system he's pushing. Poolman even states, "the Principle of Consideration for Each-other, you know: ‘Loving thy neighbour as thyself’ – those kind of things do not exist."

[No1warp9]

My gf is extremely psychic and I always like to show her pics of people to see what she picks up about them. I showed her a pic of Poolman and she immediately remarked..

"eeww! He's a MEAN, NASTY & hateful person...& he craves power and control."

Is he insane?

"No, he's not insane. He knows very well what he's doing."

What's in store for his future?

"He'll just fizzle out. I don't see anything like Heaven's Gate or Jim Jones, but he'll probably spend time in jail."

(Not making this up.)

[FuckDesteni]

@No1warp9 He does look like a psychopath doesn't he? To be honest I don't think you need to be psychic to realize this guy has a screw loose.

[zerofocusspot]

@No1warp9 i suggest you make a video of your GF doing a crossword puzzle to show her psychic abilities.

[No1warp9]

@zerofocusspot Why a crossword puzzle? She's not a walking dictionary. ;-)

[RooneyHimself]

@No1warp9

Hey, I'm curious as to what your GF would say if she were to see a picture of me

[SixthFourthEighty]

@No1warp9 maybe your girlfriend should start making videos about "whats really going on then" dick head

[commonsen5e]

@No1warp9 Your demented delusional gf must also blow your bestfriend when you're not around. Fuck, you're one goofy troll.

[AyeSkyeTech]

@No1warp9 okay, lol.

[adiratus]

ROOOOFL SHAAAAME LIES BULSHITS !!! Fuck yourself !

[TheTkc1638]

WOW ,another indecent personal attack .Seriously , Do you feel shame for this?

Don't give me your points , just look at what you have done.

[SimulacronX]

Nice channel btw, "Desteni will be destroyed." fuck yes. Matter of time.

[adiratus]

This is absolute bullshit, just lies nothing else, people who are making these videos are just exerting themselves, they are freaked out completely from Desteni and they even do not know that desteni is a group which explains principle of Life as no more abuse...desteni does not absolutely say that family is bad ! Desteni does not judge, you judge and by your judgment, you are just judging yourself.And you even do not know what is self. Open Eyes pls and stop fear yourself.ROFL

[SimulacronX]

1) @adiratus You are very wrong. Master and dictator Poolman (he is Desteni alone, it's run by one guy) states that family is the foundation of pornography and prostitution. Like all typical cults, Desteni needs the members to be isolated from families and friends so that the scam works. Next thing, they destabilize your self. Looky look: /watch?v=DNGyWL_nKYc (Poolman video). Desteni gives all giveaway signs of being a dangerous mindcontrol cult.

[SimulacronX]

2) @adiratus Desteni officially states they are against opinions, yet Hitler-hero-worshipping Poolman (no kidding) just inflicts his very personal opinions into the Destibot's heads. You are not "Equal with Life", but you become equal with the crook. Desteni is against freedom of speech, freedom of thought, against the very first human right, which is self-determination. That is called FASCISM. Get the truth about this scam at Ordo Templi Aurora's youtube channel, or the Rick Ross Cult Forum.

[CCOURTNEY1001]

so why do you think he's doing wrong when he's dedicated more videos to creating consciousness in this existence?

[0rdoTempliAurora]

@CCOURTNEY1001 His videos are actually dedicated to destroying consciousness, not creating it.

That is the whole point of what he says, and why his followers say they want to live without thoughts, feelings and emotions.

[CCOURTNEY1001]

um im black

[SimulacronX]

@CCOURTNEY1001 Hi there. Desteni is a scam, seriously. It's just a cult, like Scientology. They want your money. They are part of the abuse and bullshit. Try to watch OrdoTempliAurora's videos, the pure truth about this scam. Or visit the pros, the Rick Ross Cult Education Forum. Once you have understood Desteni is a bullshit scam hurting lots of naive people, go tell all the older baldies please.

[secondbible]

i am done with poolman. he's a mindcontroller only allowing comments which completely allign with his opinion. he's generalizing and misrepresenting women, therefore programming them with crap. generalizing = nazi !! i feel sorry for these kids, as they have good ideas, but they seem like enslaved by poolman. as soon as i started to expose poolman for what an idiot bigot he is, the little elf princess deleted me from her buddy list and suscribers list ... oh well ... their headache

[MarcusDuffy1]

@betlamed simple mathimatics. lets look at it, if your buying shoes from a company you know is utilizing slave labour in order to produce this product. then you are DIRECTLY responsable for both the participation and support of keep this slavery happening, simply by you giving them the money in order to keep it running. you are responsable for the children , men and women who are worked to the bone. what dsteni looks at is how one can be responsable for what will SUPORT life and not destroy it:)

[betlamed]

@MarcusDuffy1 Actually, what Desteni looks at is how insecure, well-meaning people with huge self-esteem issues can be exploited. Is there any scientific validation for the "process"? What do you think, why do they need walls and walls of text to explain a few rather simple ideas that are stolen and watered-down zen combined with a bit of channeling and Poolman's idiosyncrasies?

There's nothing whatsoever to it. Google "checklist of cult characteristics" and decide for yourself.

[CCOURTNEY1001]

if u guys think its a cult u guys r fucked man hes trying to bring understand to humanities fucked up ways stoopid nicca.

[secondbible]

@CCOURTNEY1001 no, it's already a given fact that poolman, their leader, is a mind-controller, not allowing freedom of speech. he is generalizing and misrepresenting women as well. and using racist words like 'nicca' shows already how low you have stooped. may you once awaken to the truth and get out of that nazi sect.

[betlamed]

He's bald, therefore his followers shave their heads? Yeah, it does make sense somehow...

And that little bald chick? She's certainly hawt, in a twisted way.

[MarcusDuffy1]

@betlamed your being suked in by what this person is saying here, what desteni stands for is taking the RESPONSABILITY for yourself. taking the inisheative in directing your life in a way that is best for all life on this plannet, you see. what you are demonstrating here is actually the complete oposite, what you have done is given away all of your responsabilitys to the maker of this video, because its what holding you back from taking the actual responsability to full investigate the sight :)