2009 Stock Corvette ZR1 Chassis Dyno Test: 530 rw hp

[Seiijin]

0:30 Z-TEC?!

[Bduke1000]

Sexy car, but ACR all the way.

[00saleen9244ssscm]

thats awesome for a bone stock car but .....i realy thaught it would b more being rated at almost 640 i dont see it loseing 108 hp through the driveline

[equ8tor10]

how much mph did it go?

[itchytasty100]

that just gave me the biggest orgasm ever

[doteen12]

the hood looks like the autobots

[GraveDiggerIII]

that's kinda disappointing.. i know that what the manufacturer rates is at the crank or flywheel, and this is wheel hp, but still. over 100hp less? :(

[LongSchlong9000]

@GraveDiggerIII

It's still enough to crush your soul in a straight line, so I'm still happy!

[GraveDiggerIII]

@LongSchlong9000

haha, yes it is. i'm not saying its bad, i just wasn't expecting that much of a loss. still one hell of a beast, that's for sure.

[IXGQ4LifeXI]

And throw just headers on it and it dynos close to 600wHP.. I need to hit the lotto

[hiimdrummer03]

@IXGQ4LifeXI Wheres links to that? 70-80hp from headers?

[IXGQ4LifeXI]

@hiimdrummer03 There couple people out there add headers obvivously tune for it usually add boost lost to headers back and make close to or over 600wHP ... One on LS1 tech.. Headers and tune for it. Search for it.

[DaiDaiallday6]

Shh. The ZR1 is speaking...

[jebxbouck94]

Pure beast, corvette zr1 is amazing

[ringer454]

As soon as the dude gunned it my skin tightened up. Is that saying something?

[AMMstudios]

These cars handle terrible but are real fast..... Still don't like em. Thank god I went back to German cars never doin american again.

[straightedge442]

@AMMstudios You're closed-minded. A lot of time, effort, and passion went into making this car. It is not fair to the people who made this car to say that. German cars have a ton of passion in them too. When people put their minds to tasks, they do well. If not, we get Chevy Vegas.

[MRWEAPONX2011]

@AMMstudios are you serious? The germans have to give people free maintenance to get people to buy their over-engineered rubbish. BTW the ZR1 is #23 on the top 200 list of fastest power lap times top gear has ever tested. Audi R8 V10 #28 Benz SLR McLaren #26 I think America is doing just fine.

[AMMstudios]

@MRWEAPONX2011 I'm dead serious and you don't see me gettin free maintenance? I think you got it mixed up with toyota buddy haha I pay good money for my car's maintenance. You know audi got kicked out of several races because of how well their cars are built? P.S: ZR1 is #27 yes higher than the R8 but look at all of the Porsches and shit above the Zr1 haha.

[neerredd]

@AMMstudios if gm cars handle so bad why did the zr1 lap the nurburgring faster then most european cars?

[IXGQ4LifeXI]

@neerredd Thank you.. tried of people saying american cars cant handle but then try to compare $600k ferrari enzo to a camaro or mustang... And when you bring anything up they always have some excuse.. 

[osp80]

@AMMstudios yeah,theyre terrible.this lamborghini lp670 would probably only need another 50 or more hp to leave the zr1... watch?v=c9wbe2HNrAg

[2jzgtejza80]

@osp80

Cars with FR / FMR layout have bigger power loss comparing to MR cars.

But Lambo LP670-4 SV using 4 wheel drive, so power loss is bigger than on pure MR, like many exotics.

[cptnsx]

As someone who has a intercooled supercharged NSX ------ the supercharger take power to run. Many people think 25 horsepower per 100 horsepower added. I have no idea how much this supercharger adds; but it seems like the supercharger take about 30wrhp to turn.

[Ganbala]

loss 16.8 % sou this car have 83.2% available power. ( in this car 1% = 6.38 hp) sou to increesss 35% = 223.3 hp / stock 530whp = 753.3 whp

638hp +35 % = 861.30 hp in motor sou (861 .30 hp motor - 753.3 whp) the gap now is 12.5 % is 4.3% better sou rhis motor cant made 1100 hp to used all direct power

[Schnitzelwario]

0:31 - 0:38 O.O! Wow

[xschitzingigles]

so many people talking out of their asses here.

[gypsykingg]

108 hp loss.. viper loses 30. haha Gm needs some better engineers. and plus its plastic, why would u want that piece of shit.

[CYB117]

@gypsykingg cause its faster than a viper thats why

[gypsykingg]

@CYB117 haha you and every other vette fan boy wishes it was

[stevewode]

@CYB117 it is faster than a viper acr? :O i didn't know that!!! ha! seems to me the ACR was the fastest round the nurburgring...maybe...EVER...Z­R1 is a great car but the ACR is superior..

[thevettedude66]

@stevewode it was faster around the ring due to the fact it was running the micheline sport cup tires which is a race compound d.o,t meanwhile the corvette only had shitty ass run flats i would be interested to see what it would do w the same tire

[stevewode]

@thevettedude66 oh man I didn't know that either! -_- yes let's see what it can do.

[CobraMarty]

@gypsykingg You go ahead, and build Corvette an engine if you can do it better... With your hands.

It still beats the shit outta Porsche and BMW. All cars lose HP as the power is transmitted through axels and gears... Some, more than others. Again, it's not all about Hp. Torque and weight is a crucial factor, and yeah it might be plastic lots of it.. But how much weight haven't they saved then? Along with carbonfibre, and aluminum and magnesium cradle...

[ylism]

That is a lot of power for a stock motor car. For any car for that matter.

[MarMPB]

Awesome power! The french SportAuto magazine dynoed the new Porsche Turbo and got 545 HP at the engine. ( much more than the 500hp advertised ). They estimated a 18.7% loss at the wheel, so about 443 rwhp.

Even then in a few european and japanese drag races here in you tube the Porsche won over the ZR1. Must be the better traction and PDK transmission.

To be fair in the motortrend comparision the ZR1 won.

Both great cars!!!!!!!!!

[donperrignon]

The Super Snake would need better tires and suspension to beat the Z06. In addition, the Vette is light and more aerodynamic. The Mustang needs more common sense engineered into it to beat the Vette. Get over it.

[quadzillaryder]

tell me this- they take a 2005 300hp mustang GT with basic bolt ons- and they get it to run 12.4 ALL day- now figure the new mustang with 415hp- yo can def. bet with bolt ons it will be givin the vettes a run for the money.. AND ITS NOT CALLED COMMON SENSE, FoRD IS SMART- THEY KEEP the costs down on mustangs(exc. gt500-but that collectors car) they will never put in independent rear or carbon fiber, or put the tranny in the rear- a mustang is a mustang- and it will outlast the vetts-

[stuntrider15]

also in most noob cases as seen on svtp you didn't beat the car, you beat the driver. so how about you ask him what his best time is at the track? if he says he runs a 12.7 in a 550rwhp its not the car, its him he either can't shift or get a good launch. wonder why he got you on the roll????

[Camaros5678]

WHAT???~?!?!??!??!?!??!?!?!?? ONLY 530rwhp!?!?!??! i know wikipedia isnt that accurate! but they said zr1 stock makes 530rwhp! and tuned to 700hp! but ONLY 530 at the wheels?!?!?!?!?

[redhot916spd]

this 530 figure is bone stock with 638hp at the wheels

[quadzillaryder]

uhm yeah- thats the bad thing about INDEPENDENT REAR SUSPENSION- mustangs loose 45 hp- but they have a solid rear axle- its just bad for handling

[Camaros5678]

no i dont think its that.... corvettes have like 12% drivetrain loss its just why is it still so low?! I mean i did the math and this thing is getting 561rwhp stock! This should be on 616rwhp ill display the math below

approx 12% (a good # I always use to find the loss, not normaly 15% for a manual car).

638 times .88= 561.44

561.44 divided by .88 = 638 sounds reasonable so why does this ZR1 get ONLY 530rwhp when it gets 561 stock?

[mbwoodstock2010]

i agree with you, but also factor in the temp outside and they didnt have a fan blowing on it, and they dont specify which run this was. because the more times you run it the worse the numbers get.

[Camaros5678]

now that makes sense shit they should have posted the BEST rwhp lol

[mbwoodstock2010]

yeah dude thats what im sayin, its the best american sports car out there, give it some props!

[quadzillaryder]

Yo- You Also have to figure its a DIFFERENT SETUP- Transmission is in the REAR- With INDP. Rear. INDP Rears Loose Alot more than SOLID Rear-. My COBRA LOOSES 55HP w/ a SOLID REAR.

Thats Why 99-01 COBRAS are SLOWER B/C they had INDP. REARS THaT YeAR.

BUT.. it dont matter- ZR1 BEAT the new SKYLINE, FERRARI 599 V12, PORSCHE..

not too many cars can beat zr1- unless you have the SALEEN S7 Twin Turbo or something

[donperrignon]

"New Skyline"... Are you talking about the Infiniti G37???

Because, the GTR has dropped the Skyline name.

[quadzillaryder]

i dont know- its a nissian awd with 480 hp-i think they said skyline

[quadzillaryder]

actually yeah its called the nissian GTR

[donperrignon]

The R35 is a GTR not a Skyline.

The GTR R34s and lower are GTR Skylines.

[Camaros5678]

but dude i already said "not normaly 15% for a manual car" so the corvette is losing like less than a mustang like 3% less....

[quadzillaryder]

dude u and ur math- any v8 rear wheel drive will loose atleast 45hp guaranteed.(thats with solid axles). independent rears loose 70 and up- same with awd cars- they loose 80 and up- just like the sti- they have 305hp- but they only have about 225 to the wheels

[02redTA]

530 RWHP through about 15-18% drivetrain loss is about 638 hp at the flywheel. Exactly what GM rates t he car at.

[elr456]

@02redTA That seems like too much power lost. 108 horses =(

[psmTARDCORE]

@elr456 Not at all. HP Posted the SAE numbers in the comments which is what we are used to looking but tuners do not use that format. I am not sure where you base your claim from but if you take the BMW 335i for example, it typically dynos anywhere from 280-287 rwhp and 280-287 rw tq when BMW claims the car makes 300 bhp and 300 lb-ft tq. A 5% drivetrain is impossible, even for BMW. GM claims the ZR1 makes 638bhp and multiple dyno formats have proven it makes about that.

[hiimdrummer03]

@psmTARDCORE Because BMW has underrated its power like the 03-04 SVT Cobra

[psmTARDCORE]

@hiimdrummer03 I didnt know those were underrated... Thats why they are so damn fast stock lol

[sethpettman]

stunt rider did you even read the title of the vid?? 530 hp not 638 you moronic piglet!

[stuntrider15]

@sethpettman- read the sidebar moron. its what the ZR1 made to the wheels

[noodlecake71240]

The ZR1, with the right driver is a low 11 second car. Put some tire on it and get one nasty driver, it has hit hi 10's, bone stock with the exception of the radials.

And as for the dyno numbers, a lot of different factors come into play. Humidity, barometric pressure, temperature, and could even be the way the dyno is calibrated. The dyno is more of a tuning tool, than an actual dead on indicator of power. It's the track that counts.

[quadzillaryder]

i really doubt ur gonna hit high 10's ... zr1 runs 12 flat with traction controll- youd be lucky to get a 11.4 with drag slicks

[Robang8488]

wow that sucked

[stuntrider15]

also thats even worse than it lost over 100hp!

[stuntrider15]

shelby*

[stuntrider15]

these have 620hp stock so for this vid it lost 90hp through the the transmission and other running gear. the Z06 makes 505 but they only put down 430rwhp in most vids i have watched.

[paintballer0816]

no it has 638 hp stock.

[badassxr50r]

I would take a z06 over a zr1. I would take a viper over any corvette tho.

[stuntrider15]

why the hell did you reply to my comment? i don't give a crap if you like this car or not, you saying you would take a Z06 over this car is like saying you would rather have a moped over an actual sportbike! the Zr1 is the fastest GM produced corvette.....EVER made! this car has set records on the ring and would blow a Z06 or a viper away! newest viper has srt-10 610hp and weighs more than this i think, this makes 638hp and handles way better only thing that can beat this would be the viper acr

[badassxr50r]

It maybe the fastest doesn't me it is the best..... For the price of this thing you can have an acr viper. Which I said I would rather have. I could careless that this thing is faster then the viper in a straight line. Not everyone wants the same thing so get over it.

[stuntrider15]

you mean you could not careless by saying you careless means you actually care, this is what i get for talking to a highschooler that knows everything LMFAO! go do your homework

[badassxr50r]

This is coming from a guy that said the gt500kr beats the z06 when it doesn't lol. Look up the video from edmunds the z06 kicks the gt500kr's ass.

[stuntrider15]

is you base you theory on a damn video i guess you go buy the 1/4 times car and driver list's for their test cars in there mag too right? 13 sec 1/4 for a 425hp camaro ss? my lil 4.6 mustang GT can do that and its a 2 valve! in real life the KR beats the vette don't get me started on the supersnake! 725hp i bet you think a Z06 beats that too right?

[badassxr50r]

You have never heard of power to weight ratio then right? the new camaro is a pig along with the mustang KR. I know a 4.6 gt can run a 13 sec quarter mile. There is a big diff between a high 13 and a low 13. The supersnake is also 605hp with a upgrade to make it 725. Its also 72000. I would never in my life spend that on a mustang. I would much rather spend 20k on a 03-04 cobra and put some money in that and eat those gt500kr's for breakfast lunch and dinner super snake or not.

[stuntrider15]

i guess you are forgetting the fact that this is not any mustang it bares the name of one of historys greatest car makers if carrol shelby put his name on a honda it would sell out! every knows the 03-04 cobra motor is a great motor but it isn't as good as the new DOHC 5.4 guess you have never heard of more hp per liter. you could slap a twin turbo kit on either motor and be done, if you did this to a Z06 you would need a crap load of work done to the block boosted app's ford is the best

[badassxr50r]

Its still a mustang. I am just not a Ford fan. There are a few I like like the 5.0 mustangs, 03-04 cobra and the 1994-1998 mustangs. Yes the dohc 5.4 prob is better then the dohc 4.6. The dohc 4.6l would hold plenty of power for what I would want. Yes the z06 would need work because it is high compression. It is not ment to be used with forced induction. It is a strong motor still thats why lingenfelter uses that motor.

[kief4diamonds]

@stuntrider15 yeah but what about buying a z06 for 40grand with an e/w 7 year 100,000 with full coverage including gap and accesories coverage...then put a twin turbo sts system or procharger...youd spend about 55,00 at the most...and would rape a zr1 ....prob afford some new brakes rims and suspension while your at it and still not come close to being 120,000

[stuntrider15]

don't know where you got 120,000 from cause the chevy dealership here in orlando has 1 for $103,000. sure a modded Z06 is nice but i would rather have a Zr1. money wise tho i'll take the modded Z06. also it only takes Heads cam intake and exhaust on the LS7 to beat a ZR1. there are vids on here

[rzrdwt08]

Just to jump in on this.. I have a 08 LS3 vette(430hp at crank). In my apartment complex their is a 07 GT500 with pullies, headers, intake, exhaust, and dyno tune. I am stock and we ran three times. From a stop to 120 we were within 3 feet of each other the whole time.. from a 30 to 120 roll he took me by one length.. so about 550rwhp GT500 vs a 380rwhp vette we were neck and neck. So a 460hp z06 would easily take a super snake.

[stuntrider15]

you do realize that it only takes about 100whp difference in a GT500 to beat a vette right? also the weight of the GT500 is 4,099lbs with out a driver......your vette is in the 3,400-3,500lb range so i'm assuming you have never heard of power to weight ratio? hence why all the lil honda hathces at the track are fully gutted with bolt ons and run low 13's with around 130whp LMFAO!!!! congrats

[Abe4racing]

That's a good idea, until you realize the Z06s block isn't really that great at taking boost. 1st because the compression ratio doesn't allow it to take much boost, and 2nd because the cilinder walls of the LS7 are too thin to handle the extra pressure and heat created from the boost. Why do you think GM didn't use the 7.0 for the ZR1?

Besides, if you add any power adder to a C6 Z06 your precious warranty is over.

[quadzillaryder]

vipers suck- they havent changed them in over 15 yrs

[badassxr50r]

I hope you honestly don't believe that... there has been many changes to the car... There has been at least 3 different engines that I can think of off hand. Then there has been 4 diff body styles (rt/10, gts, srt10 convertable, srt10 coupe). So yeah they never been changed......

[quadzillaryder]

uhm ok yeah minor changes- but they always had 500 hp and the new ones have 600- but they have basically looked the same and they r slow.

[badassxr50r]

right...... more like 400hp to 600hp. I wouldnt call a 600hp car slow by any means.

[quadzillaryder]

yeh and i bet the 500hp vete will beat it

[badassxr50r]

lol right when a bone stock viper dyno's 580whp. The zr1 that is rated at more only can pull out 530whp... I will put my money on the viper still. Plus too many people have vettes... I still see vipers to this day and go "OMG". Plus the viper acr is faster around the Nurburgring then the vette zr1.....

[quadzillaryder]

580whp? then it must have well over 600hp- but that being said- the vette is lighter-and i would pay to see a viper smoke a zr1- and the vette has better handling- it has todays tech. while the viper has 80's tech.

[badassxr50r]

@quadzillaryder The viper acr weights not even 100lbs more then the zr1..... So what if it doesnt have traction control or stability control. The viper is a drivers car. If you cant drive you will crash basically. They both have two different attitudes. Its just which you like better. I like the hard to get along with kill you if you screw up viper attitude. Also how does the vette handle better when it cant even beat a viper around the nurburgring?!

[quadzillaryder]

ok maybe- but it dont matter cuz gm is making a 850 horse vette- soo much for the viper

[badassxr50r]

Ill believe it when i see it. The viper will go out of production soon. Its not all about straight line speed either. Yes the viper acr is a little over 100k but so is the zr1.

[quadzillaryder]

yeah i watched that video- its all driver based-

i want to see a full out drage race-and ive never seen any1 with an acr on the street- never-

ive seen a bunch of z06;s/ a couple of zr1;s

and if a base viper costs 80k- im sure the acr is easily over 100k

[Nosillla]

@quadzillaryder

ACR viper beat the vette on nurburgring

[AnimepimpYT]

@Nosillla yea but the ACR cant be daily driver. the corvette has comfy seats, nice AC and luggage space.

[puppykicker54]

@quadzillaryder okay pay me...go to the nurburgring lap times and look up the viper smoking a zr1.

check would be fine, but i'd prefer cash

[quadzillaryder]

@puppykicker54 0 just because it beat it one time on some foreign track dont mean shit-

ur gonna need more proof than just one race with 2 diff. drivers-

and- every1 knows vipers r shit- thats why no one buys them-

[quadzillaryder]

@puppykicker54 - the viper pulls a 1.02 g on a track- zr1 pulls a 1.07-

meaning it handles better

[puppykicker54]

@quadzillaryder not necessarily, it does mean it grips better on a skidpad, but there are other factors, such as transitioning between turns, turn in, the way it handles coming out of a turns and putting on the power. the Nurburgring times do mean a good amount, most high end sports cars are tested there, and i have never driven a viper, i would imagine they are quite nice, but i have no experience. did drive a c6 vette, and even as a "non-vette person" i must say it was amazingly good

[fuckingradguy69]

@quadzillaryder

skidpad numbers only dictate one small aspect of a cars handling.

[praetorian2150]

stop arguing and ruining comment sections of videos god

[praetorian2150]

stop arguing and ruining the comment sections

[donperrignon]

My four favorite sports cars are the Corvette, Vipers, Nissan GTRs, and Porsche 911s... And, as far as sound goes, the Corvette sounds the best.

[master9716]

What is the Stock AFR table for the ZR1? is it all 12.1 past 3k rpm? or does it vary?

[paintballer0816]

na the zr1 with the right driver is a 11 sec car.

[badassxr50r]

the z06 is an 11 second car lol.

[paintballer0816]

stock wit stock tires it runs 12.2 sometimesd high 11.

[baconman385]

Aerodymanic

[BLKHAWK91483]

First of all, I wouldnt even take my pinto to HPE. That guy has been a crook to viper owners for a long time, so why would I take a corvette or even a camaro to that guy!?!?

[crazyzstang]

lol the 2010 gt500 made 511 stone stock and its little over 50k....i rest my case....watch the vid gm guys!!!!

[skintoaster]

you rest nothing.....the zr1 is faster, so you will pay more =O because your paying for the mustang drivers to suck your cock everytime at the finish line =)

[remowil55]

the Gt Mousetang KR is 85 thousand, and i woud take a new Z06 it will smoke the GT.

[alex369]

you mean the gt500 KR ? yup it is expensive for how crappy it is. yup Z06 starts at 69k at the local dealer.

[paintballer0816]

not mine

[stuntrider15]

ok first off retard its called the shebly GT500 KR and they have 540hp and they can beat the Z06 a base model GT500 will lose the vette has 505hp and the GT500 has 500hp the KR has 540hp and the extra 40 gives it enough just to beat the vette

[Metal5Dark]

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam

i want one ;)

[ka20e]

Rated at 638hp and made 530 to the wheels? So, 108hp (and 80 lb/ft) was lost though the drivetrain....right. GM probably rated the ZR1 with ice on the intake manifold, 40ish degree temps, added 50 then rounded up a little bit.

That's lame.

[fccs]

Dude.. do the math, 15% loss from 638 is 96.. So it's realistic.

[poopnut2]

You're a dumbass, dude. Corvette's typically have a higher % loss than other cars due to the IRS and tranny setup. That's probably a pretty heavy duty clutch/flywheel/and tranny that thing is spinning. If anything, it might be a little underrated. Plus, look at that torque curve! Insanity!

[BLKHAWK91483]

Atleast someone knows about corvettes and their drivetrain loss

[niverseband]

17% drivetrain loss on an RWD vehicle is absolutely feasible - in fact right in the norm (for "at the wheels" numbers). The 638hp is obviously measured "at the crank" (or flywheel), the standard "known" measurement.

Besides, different dynos are going to pull slightly different numbers anyways - a lot of factors.

Great vid hpedesign, thanks for sharing!

[stuntrider15]

its not 17% its 30% percent drivetrain loss

[badassxr50r]

yeah considering the viper is rated at 600 and they put down pretty much the same numbers... I think GM over rated this one a bit.

[JcmMagNoo]

gm are liers. but the loss count that droptop explained explains it.

[shawnleenassim]

0:38 OMG

[dkwr14]

nice. but that wind is killing the beautiful sound of that Vette!

[Spartan890]

Wow...just wow.

[thecoolkid17]

all i know is that shit sounded nuts, i couldnt imagine it under load on the eway....

[gtodryvah]

i seen another video where a zr1 gets 550hp to the wheels

[BMWTechnician]

probably a better dyno, this one isn't looking so good...

[gtodryvah]

the lexus isf is rated at 417 total hp and only got 330 to the wheels

[charliewho69]

when they dyno these cars to start they do the motor. not on a full dyno like shown here.

[mr101f]

Hey Guys, help me understand. Kinda disappointed. Is tuning the answer? Check this. The ZR1 is rated at 638 Supercharged horsepower (with 10.5 lbs of boost on a 6.2 ltr LS9) but loses a whooping 108 HP through the driveline. WTF??!! Why do I ask? I have a 04 Z06, stock 405 HP put down 352 rwhp (losing only 53 HP to the wheels). I have since thene added STS Twin Turbos. Now putting down 538 rwhp and 523 rwtq out of a 5.7 liter LS6 with only 7 lbs of boost. What gives?

[gtodryvah]

i know most cars lose about 53hp maybe he didnt give it all it had

[TurboDropTop]

Its a percentage thing. 352hp/405hp = ~15% loss. This guys got 530hp out of an advertised 638hp which is about a 17% loss. general rule of thumb is 15% loss for FWD and RWD cars and 20-25% loss in AWD cars. My AWD Talon with a welded diff put down about 345hp and 330 tq so at 25% it would be 430hp and 412tq.

[wellshii]

its overestimating on manufacturers part

[seniorspedo]

damn

[wellshii]

even the gt500 loses 100hp supposedly,either ther lying in the first place of drivtrain just sucks.hmm there also both supercharged...hmm

[pballer2005]

you have to figure around a 20% through the drive train and sadly the higher the horsepower the more will be loss to the wheels. a 1000 flywheel hp car will usually have 800 at the tire. there isn't a whole lot you can do about it. and the more complicated the drivetrain (all wheel drive, flappy paddle trans.) the worse it gets.

[wellshii]

i know that,but this is still to much,the z0 didnt lose this much.

[pballer2005]

nah try it on the calculator, car actaully has less than a 205 loss so its not that bad. plus every dyno is different

[3Valve46]

20 percent is hig,most lose 11-15.

[pballer2005]

this lost just a hair over 15, 20% was a # i saw on most fox bodies with c4 trans

[wellshii]

insideline video got 505,and ive read results from the z06 being at 470 whp.i think manfacturers should dyno there damn cars and go by those stats,because this much loss is bullshit.

[eeeen321]

it has nothing to do with overall loss, rather % loss...i did hear of these making over 600rwhp though, maybe i heard from poor sources

[mattofeast]

how do you lose 100 BHP through the drive train?, I dont think the GTR or 911 Turbo lose that much and their both AWD...

[madtownmadman]

530 horsepower at the wheels is 17% less than the advertised hp at the crank. Thats right in line with what you will see in other RWD chassis dyno pulls. 100 hp just sounds like a lot because the engine makes so much power at the crank. The more power you make at the crank, the more power will be consumed in the drivetrain. Friction and mass are a bitch. As far as the % of losses in AWD, I don't know for sure, but could only assume theres more. Being that theres 2x as many wheels to drive.

[mr2ya]

Yes a Awd should lose more than 17% (probably like 19-20% depending on model), and i think the vettes current layout is a little more efficient than the old front trans rear drive setup.

Also, a AWD evo would probably lose less power than say a AWD GTR, Theirs alot of drive shafts on that new GTR.

[pballer2005]

exactly

[GTRnev8820]

530 not bad

[chromebomb]

i drank a bottle of Hennessey last night

it was gooooooood

[bachtuyen84]

look at the hood,it can transform. hihhi

[hferreira]

nice observation ! :)

[Nqundu]

Damn my car looks good. I can't wait to get it back!

[UberVette]

Tune, pulley, headers.

[johnkimble2007]

Damn what a nice car

[VIOUTLAW26]

so whats you guys plans for this monster