GNM Presentation in the U.S.: Feb 12 in Newburgh, NY (Dr. Chris Lowthert, D.C.)
germannewmedicine . com /documents/chris-lowthert . html
GNM MEGA SEMINAR in EUROPE: Aug 22Aug30, 2009 (Caroline Markolin, Ph.D.)
germannewmedicine . com/documents/europe_gnm_events . html
PLAGIARISM: NES (Nutri-Energetics System®) has joined forces with Meta Medicine® and NLP Time Line Therapy® in the take-over & corruption of Dr. Hamers discoveries. germannewmedicine . com /documents/whygnm . html
Over 90% cure rate, unverified rubbish!!! My best friends wife just died because they chose to follow Hamer's advice. I can tell you it was not a pretty way to go. She smelled of rotting flesh because that's just what was happening!! DON'T BE GULLIBLE WITH YOUR LIFE!!!!
@cableready Actually Hamer's 94-96% success rate was proven in court documents. Look it up! It is 100% verified. So, I might suggest you/your wife were not familiar with the correct application, your were one of the unlucky few, or you are just flat out lying. I believe the last. The "rotting flesh" comment is a nice touch.
@kuei1248 My friends paid big bucks and went to Canada to attend two different seminars on this Hamer nonsense. We watched her get worse and worse. She was in line at the local grocery store and started bleeding from her breast so badly that the store tried to call the rescue squad but she refused. Toward the end of this ordeal her breasts smelled like rotting meat and that was just what it was. No "nice touch" about it, it was avoidable and completely disgusting waste of a beautiful friend!!
@cable. Here is another perspective. A few years (7) ago I was diagnosed with bone cancer. I was expected to live 9 months. Now, I am chatting with you. I took ABSOLUTELY no medicine or medical therapy. I healed myself with these techniques. To this day I have not taken ANY medicine for ANYTHING. I NEVER get sick anymore. I don't even take aspirin. His treatments go well beyond cancer. I am proof. Is it 100% effective? No. 94-96%. Because your friend did not heal is no excuse for discredit him.
@kuei1248 I really am glad that you are healed and doing well! But unfortunately that is not the norm. If you can read German as my wife does you can find the Web littered with horror stories about Hamer and the lies, deception and deaths that he has brought to literally hundreds of souls. I have found no court documentation from any reliable sources that verifies this rate.
@cable ..Now that is where you are quite wrong, because healing is very much the norm. It was proven in a court of law that his success rate was an INCREDIBLE 94-96%. That is FACT. So I do not know where you are getting your statistics. The court documents proving this can be referenced from the court that tried him for practicing non conformist medicine. You will have to contact them. There are plenty who wish to discredit him with phony accusations for the riches of selling medication. Do you?
@kuei1248 Each and every time I have asked for the verifiable proofs no one has been able to produce them because they do not exist. I do not care about the medical system I care about the truth. True honest statistics that have been proven. My friend whose wife died was unable to to prove those statistics, we have heard it all before. But, like I said, I am very glad that it has worked for you.
@cable..You want proof you need to go directly to the court. Why do you refuse to do it? Cuz your know damn well that is where it exists! Still you offer contempt for this man and give no proof in return. I suspect you are one of the people trying to make money off the suffering of patients by trying to sell them treatment or medicine. You play the same game as all the rest. You want proof? Get it! It's there for EVERYONE. You just refuse to do so because you don't want to prove you're wrong.
@kuei1248 The proof is not there, that is why I asked you to produce it for all to see. For over a year I looked hard at this stuff and researched it extensively while my friend was dying and it still came up very short!! THE COURT DOCUMENTATION IS NOT THERE or you would make a link for all to see!!! This crap just keeps spinning because there IS no tangible medical studies that have proven anything but fraud! You are just another in a long line unwilling and unable to prove the claims!
@cableready GO THERE AND ASK!! Do you think they wiped away the court documentation and transcripts? LOL. Once again. You refuse to do ANYTHING to answer your own question. I already know the answer. I'm alive! It works! I could give a shit if your "friend" did not succeed. That is not in my ball park. So expecting me to make the investment in answering questions toward her demise is ludicrous. Did you go there and ask? NO! You are full of shit and trying to drag Dr. Hamer down with you.
@kuei1248 GO WHERE AND ASK, THERE IS NO PLACE!!! IT is smokescreen and mirrors! I HAVE TRIED NUMEROUS TIMES AND GET THE SAME ANSWERS FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU! Personal assault and arrogance is all that you have to share. Your own words and responses tell the real story, what a sham and a shame!!
@cableready There is no such place? Are you denying that Dr. Hamer was taken to court in Europe of his treatments? LOL! Do you even know ANYTHING about Dr. Hamer? You "CLAIM" to have done all this research and STILL can't come up with ANY answers about this man other than, "he is a Quack". I do not believe ANYTHING you say on the subject! You are just out to assault Dr. Hamer for your own personal gain. That is obvious! Take it somewhere else.
@kuei1248 LOL is right!! His trial has no statistics that verify your fact of healing success. He has been put in prison and banned from countries because of the wake of malpractice he has left. But, you can continue to push his theories if you chose. I for one will not!!!
@cableready He seems to have an awful lot of success for someone who's theories do not work. European courts do NOT throw away transcripts. To suggest they do is purely idiotic. You are an imbecile for even suggesting such things. Please present the name of your dead friend. Present the date and place of her death, along with YOUR real name.
@kuei1248 It is useless to try and discuss this further. You have chosen to insult me and call me names on ever post instead of furthering your cause. If Hamer means so much to you what is your unwillingness to help by answering simple questions and pointing me in the correct direction for answers. All I have asked for is the documented evidence of the one statement you made about 94-96% success rate as a FACT. Unfortunately evidence unproduced is replaced with character attacks. Lame!
@cableready You have been given the direction of the facts and you refuse to turn there. Instead you spit out absurdities and refuse to present facts supporting YOUR statements. When asked to do you you want to run and hide. This is what people who fabricate lies for their own personal gain do. And, trust this. This conversation would never have started if not for your BASELESS personal attacks on Dr Hamer. Once again, it is YOU who are without fact. Go away!
@kuei1248 A web search shows its always Hamer's disciples that quote the 90+ healing rate statistic but with no proof attached. They say the prosecutor Wiener-Neustadt made the quote in an Austrian court but not even one document can be found to back up this well worn mantra! With lack of proof discussion always ends in name calling or the usual statement "go find it yourself you idiot". And you wonder why Hamer's followers are looked at as a cult and with total skepticism??
I Hope that Johannes 9126 is not a doctor. He sure displays an ability to open his mouth while his colon rumbles. What happened to his ability to analyse data and come to an opinion based on research? Not alpha male enough?
@Johannes9126 Actually the success rate is 94-96% as proven in court documents. Please look it up. And, the next time you go online to suggest someone is a "quack", please bring along supporting evidence. You really look foolish by not doing so.
1) The GNM has never proven it's success, not in court or elsewhere. (science is not (dis)proved in court, anyway)
2) All the patients with severe illnesses ,like cancer, who trusted the methods and teachings of the GNM have died. Hamer pulled the 94-96% out of his ass. That the 6500 patients of his clinic, from which 6000 should have been alive when the investigations started, were patients with severe illnesses after all, Hamer never could prove. Documentation Fail.
...says Hamer. Hamer could never present the illnesses of his patients in a proper and scientific way of diagnosing and protocolling. And I can claim that because I have read some of his supposedly "scientific" writings. And I am not even talking about a proper follow-up study for 5-10 years.
@Johannes9126 Uhhh, no. Says the prosecutor. It was Hamer's evidence that forced the prosecutor to admit Hamer's success. I am living proof that his methods work. Please present PROOF that his methods don't work, instead of spitting out your bloated rhetoric. How much do you get paid by the insurance companies/pharmas to trash Hamer's science? It must be sad to have to sell yourself.
You are the living proof? Scan the page of your medical/histological diagnosis, upload it on Imageshack or elsewhere (don't forget to black out your name and to tell me where to find it) and then we'll talk. I have encountered too many GNM-idiots who have diagnosed themselves with cancer when actually having a sore throat and such and too many altie-idiots who have used quack-methods for diagnostics of their "cancer". So: Pics or it didn't happen.
@Johannes9126 ...You first. I know I am right. You however are dead wrong. Why is it you have so much at stake in something you do not believe? It seems you have alot to lose. Why is that? What is riding on this for you? Please present your proof that all of his cancer patients died. I asked first, and yet you (nor the other guy) can present any. Why is that? Why is it cancer treatment centers are starting to use Hamer's methods if everyone dies from it?
Because I have some slight doubts that letting idiots running things is a good idea. " Please present your proof that all of his cancer patients died."
Kuei 1248, I just had a look at your profile. Sorry that I have mistaken you for a thinking human being, copkiller. But hey, you got your bone-cancer (scan of the histological diagnosis on imageshack or it didn't happen) healed by this nonsense. Another proof that there is no biological sense in the GNM, even IF it should work...
GNM Presentation in the U.S.: Feb 12 in Newburgh, NY (Dr. Chris Lowthert, D.C.)
germannewmedicine . com /documents/chris-lowthert . html
GNM MEGA SEMINAR in EUROPE: Aug 22Aug30, 2009 (Caroline Markolin, Ph.D.)
germannewmedicine . com/documents/europe_gnm_events . html
PLAGIARISM: NES (Nutri-Energetics System®) has joined forces with Meta Medicine® and NLP Time Line Therapy® in the take-over & corruption of Dr. Hamers discoveries. germannewmedicine . com /documents/whygnm . html
annie46664 3 years ago
Part 2:
GNM Breast Cancer Testimonial by Marcy Pormann
germannewmedicine . com/documents/testimonials . html
LEARNING GNM TESTIMONIAL by Dr. David Jernigan, D.C.
germannewmedicine . com/documents/jernigan . html
With greetings from Vancouver,
Caroline Markolin, Ph.D.
Approved German New Medicine® Teacher
germannewmedicine . ca
annie46664 3 years ago
Over 90% cure rate, unverified rubbish!!! My best friends wife just died because they chose to follow Hamer's advice. I can tell you it was not a pretty way to go. She smelled of rotting flesh because that's just what was happening!! DON'T BE GULLIBLE WITH YOUR LIFE!!!!
cableready 3 years ago
@cableready Actually Hamer's 94-96% success rate was proven in court documents. Look it up! It is 100% verified. So, I might suggest you/your wife were not familiar with the correct application, your were one of the unlucky few, or you are just flat out lying. I believe the last. The "rotting flesh" comment is a nice touch.
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248 My friends paid big bucks and went to Canada to attend two different seminars on this Hamer nonsense. We watched her get worse and worse. She was in line at the local grocery store and started bleeding from her breast so badly that the store tried to call the rescue squad but she refused. Toward the end of this ordeal her breasts smelled like rotting meat and that was just what it was. No "nice touch" about it, it was avoidable and completely disgusting waste of a beautiful friend!!
cableready 1 year ago
@cable. Here is another perspective. A few years (7) ago I was diagnosed with bone cancer. I was expected to live 9 months. Now, I am chatting with you. I took ABSOLUTELY no medicine or medical therapy. I healed myself with these techniques. To this day I have not taken ANY medicine for ANYTHING. I NEVER get sick anymore. I don't even take aspirin. His treatments go well beyond cancer. I am proof. Is it 100% effective? No. 94-96%. Because your friend did not heal is no excuse for discredit him.
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248 I really am glad that you are healed and doing well! But unfortunately that is not the norm. If you can read German as my wife does you can find the Web littered with horror stories about Hamer and the lies, deception and deaths that he has brought to literally hundreds of souls. I have found no court documentation from any reliable sources that verifies this rate.
cableready 1 year ago
@cable ..Now that is where you are quite wrong, because healing is very much the norm. It was proven in a court of law that his success rate was an INCREDIBLE 94-96%. That is FACT. So I do not know where you are getting your statistics. The court documents proving this can be referenced from the court that tried him for practicing non conformist medicine. You will have to contact them. There are plenty who wish to discredit him with phony accusations for the riches of selling medication. Do you?
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248 Each and every time I have asked for the verifiable proofs no one has been able to produce them because they do not exist. I do not care about the medical system I care about the truth. True honest statistics that have been proven. My friend whose wife died was unable to to prove those statistics, we have heard it all before. But, like I said, I am very glad that it has worked for you.
cableready 1 year ago
@cable..You want proof you need to go directly to the court. Why do you refuse to do it? Cuz your know damn well that is where it exists! Still you offer contempt for this man and give no proof in return. I suspect you are one of the people trying to make money off the suffering of patients by trying to sell them treatment or medicine. You play the same game as all the rest. You want proof? Get it! It's there for EVERYONE. You just refuse to do so because you don't want to prove you're wrong.
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248 The proof is not there, that is why I asked you to produce it for all to see. For over a year I looked hard at this stuff and researched it extensively while my friend was dying and it still came up very short!! THE COURT DOCUMENTATION IS NOT THERE or you would make a link for all to see!!! This crap just keeps spinning because there IS no tangible medical studies that have proven anything but fraud! You are just another in a long line unwilling and unable to prove the claims!
cableready 1 year ago
@cableready GO THERE AND ASK!! Do you think they wiped away the court documentation and transcripts? LOL. Once again. You refuse to do ANYTHING to answer your own question. I already know the answer. I'm alive! It works! I could give a shit if your "friend" did not succeed. That is not in my ball park. So expecting me to make the investment in answering questions toward her demise is ludicrous. Did you go there and ask? NO! You are full of shit and trying to drag Dr. Hamer down with you.
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248 GO WHERE AND ASK, THERE IS NO PLACE!!! IT is smokescreen and mirrors! I HAVE TRIED NUMEROUS TIMES AND GET THE SAME ANSWERS FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU! Personal assault and arrogance is all that you have to share. Your own words and responses tell the real story, what a sham and a shame!!
cableready 1 year ago
@cableready There is no such place? Are you denying that Dr. Hamer was taken to court in Europe of his treatments? LOL! Do you even know ANYTHING about Dr. Hamer? You "CLAIM" to have done all this research and STILL can't come up with ANY answers about this man other than, "he is a Quack". I do not believe ANYTHING you say on the subject! You are just out to assault Dr. Hamer for your own personal gain. That is obvious! Take it somewhere else.
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248 LOL is right!! His trial has no statistics that verify your fact of healing success. He has been put in prison and banned from countries because of the wake of malpractice he has left. But, you can continue to push his theories if you chose. I for one will not!!!
cableready 1 year ago
@cableready He seems to have an awful lot of success for someone who's theories do not work. European courts do NOT throw away transcripts. To suggest they do is purely idiotic. You are an imbecile for even suggesting such things. Please present the name of your dead friend. Present the date and place of her death, along with YOUR real name.
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248 It is useless to try and discuss this further. You have chosen to insult me and call me names on ever post instead of furthering your cause. If Hamer means so much to you what is your unwillingness to help by answering simple questions and pointing me in the correct direction for answers. All I have asked for is the documented evidence of the one statement you made about 94-96% success rate as a FACT. Unfortunately evidence unproduced is replaced with character attacks. Lame!
cableready 1 year ago
@cableready You have been given the direction of the facts and you refuse to turn there. Instead you spit out absurdities and refuse to present facts supporting YOUR statements. When asked to do you you want to run and hide. This is what people who fabricate lies for their own personal gain do. And, trust this. This conversation would never have started if not for your BASELESS personal attacks on Dr Hamer. Once again, it is YOU who are without fact. Go away!
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248 A web search shows its always Hamer's disciples that quote the 90+ healing rate statistic but with no proof attached. They say the prosecutor Wiener-Neustadt made the quote in an Austrian court but not even one document can be found to back up this well worn mantra! With lack of proof discussion always ends in name calling or the usual statement "go find it yourself you idiot". And you wonder why Hamer's followers are looked at as a cult and with total skepticism??
cableready 1 year ago
@kuei1248 Just a small, quick example google the name Michaela Jakubczyk-Eckert
cableready 1 year ago
Richmorr, I think you didn't understand or misinterpreted Dr. Hamers 5th biological law.
I suggest you look at it again closely.
DavidM1337 3 years ago
DavidM1337,
Thanks for the thoughtful comment. I will look at it more carefully.
richmorr9 3 years ago
I Hope that Johannes 9126 is not a doctor. He sure displays an ability to open his mouth while his colon rumbles. What happened to his ability to analyse data and come to an opinion based on research? Not alpha male enough?
Aalanone 3 years ago
Don't worry. Johannes gets payed by the pharma do post these comments. He's everywhere doing that.
DavidM1337 3 years ago 8
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"This website presents experimental evidence of cancer work that has led to the cure of more than 90% of the people treated." LOL. What a quack.
Johannes9126 3 years ago
@Johannes9126 Actually the success rate is 94-96% as proven in court documents. Please look it up. And, the next time you go online to suggest someone is a "quack", please bring along supporting evidence. You really look foolish by not doing so.
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248
1) The GNM has never proven it's success, not in court or elsewhere. (science is not (dis)proved in court, anyway)
2) All the patients with severe illnesses ,like cancer, who trusted the methods and teachings of the GNM have died. Hamer pulled the 94-96% out of his ass. That the 6500 patients of his clinic, from which 6000 should have been alive when the investigations started, were patients with severe illnesses after all, Hamer never could prove. Documentation Fail.
Johannes9126 1 year ago
@Johannes9126 ...Actually the PROSECUTORS in he trial were forced to admit his success rate.
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248
...says Hamer. Hamer could never present the illnesses of his patients in a proper and scientific way of diagnosing and protocolling. And I can claim that because I have read some of his supposedly "scientific" writings. And I am not even talking about a proper follow-up study for 5-10 years.
Johannes9126 1 year ago
@Johannes9126 Uhhh, no. Says the prosecutor. It was Hamer's evidence that forced the prosecutor to admit Hamer's success. I am living proof that his methods work. Please present PROOF that his methods don't work, instead of spitting out your bloated rhetoric. How much do you get paid by the insurance companies/pharmas to trash Hamer's science? It must be sad to have to sell yourself.
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248
You are the living proof? Scan the page of your medical/histological diagnosis, upload it on Imageshack or elsewhere (don't forget to black out your name and to tell me where to find it) and then we'll talk. I have encountered too many GNM-idiots who have diagnosed themselves with cancer when actually having a sore throat and such and too many altie-idiots who have used quack-methods for diagnostics of their "cancer". So: Pics or it didn't happen.
Johannes9126 1 year ago
@Johannes9126 ...You first. I know I am right. You however are dead wrong. Why is it you have so much at stake in something you do not believe? It seems you have alot to lose. Why is that? What is riding on this for you? Please present your proof that all of his cancer patients died. I asked first, and yet you (nor the other guy) can present any. Why is that? Why is it cancer treatment centers are starting to use Hamer's methods if everyone dies from it?
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248
"It seems you have alot to lose. Why is that?"
Because I have some slight doubts that letting idiots running things is a good idea. " Please present your proof that all of his cancer patients died."
esowatch(dot)com/ge/index(dot)php?title=Opfer_der_Germanischen_Neuen_Medizin
Can't read German? Hamer writes in German, too.
"Why is it cancer treatment centers are starting to use Hamer's methods if everyone dies from it?"
Hahaha! No, seriously, muahahaha!
Johannes9126 1 year ago
@Johannes9126 ....No, seriously. Answer the question. That's what I thought. No proof!
kuei1248 1 year ago
@kuei1248
What didn't you understand in "I am trying to slow the dumbing down"?
Johannes9126 1 year ago
@kuei1248
Kuei 1248, I just had a look at your profile. Sorry that I have mistaken you for a thinking human being, copkiller. But hey, you got your bone-cancer (scan of the histological diagnosis on imageshack or it didn't happen) healed by this nonsense. Another proof that there is no biological sense in the GNM, even IF it should work...
Johannes9126 1 year ago
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@Johannes9126 LOL. You are sad
kuei1248 1 year ago