Heads/Cam Camaro vs. Built Twin Turbo B5 S4

[Feiereisen1]

Put Twin turbos in the Camaro.... then race

[sujomatt]

I knew that location was familiar. Then I realize I hang out with the camaro driver on the pike lol

[Mr20vmonster]

S4 = fail driver if that car really had 460 awhp

[Snizzy2]

@Mr20vmonster LOL... actually it was the S4 drivers like 2nd day owning the car.. the camaro driver is a consistent nasty driver.. it took the S4 driver until the last race to get the feel of the car.. the only difference was short shifting about 300-500rpms.. and look at the effect it had.

[germanforme]

BTW, I like both cars but if u want a total over all better package, I would pick the S4.

[germanforme]

I think it's funny that no one mentions that.... Yeah even though the Audi has twin turbos, it's still a V6 vs V8. Maybe a stock RS6 would be more even? Plus, Camaro is straight sports car against sporty sedan right!!!

[silverelex]

@germanforme Youre a moron. You need to learn what boost does to a motor. It effectively increases the displacement of what ever it is being driven by. Camaro got it done on HP.

[travonepleasant]

s4 all day..... add audiboost psn bwahahahah!!!!

[Davidmay303]

That looked like a really fun day of racing.

[suzuki400boi]

S4 weighs a 1000 lb's more than the Camaro.  And how can you judge the guy's driving in the S4? They never even showed him driving..

[Snizzy2]

@suzuki400boi

They weigh the same.. Pretty much the exact same.

[Snizzy2]

@suzuki400boi

You have no business being on the internet and commenting on race videos if you think a B5 S4 weighs 4805 with no one in it. The car is a 3590lb car. That is almost the exact same.

[shahzam42691]

@Snizzy2 hahaha s4 the size of a tahoe

[Knot2shaby]

I love how the camaro dude shifts lol.

[THATMOFODIRT]

@dabeastsr20 Even when it was stock it would still run low 13's @108MPH- Bone stock.

Calling BS, I used to have a b6a4 and it's not running those numbers. Stock would make your A4 quicker than a stock b5 S4. You fail.

[THATMOFODIRT]

Both cars are badass and can be modded to kill. Both can be legit beasts depending on what YOU WANT to do to YOUR car. Great vid btw.

[1911painmaker]

whats the name of the 1st song?

[lpimentel89]

these runs depended on power gears.. thats all

[theoene1]

audi is the king

[A4rings]

@theoene1 haha i highly doubt that you have single turbo b5 s4, you must be talking about the older Inline5 turbo.

[namealreadyused12345]

both rad cars!!!

[skillz1855]

damnthis older all motor les P camaro goes to show how muscle is king and not technology and tons of boost, but the more they run the more the camaro will beat the S4 due to the turbos heating up and loosing boost, good run Z for the Z28

[IronwolfWS6]

I'm an F-Body guy, but turbos are great for top-end. Seems like this is almost a driver's race. Good job on a well built Audi. And THANK YOU for rolling up your windows. I hate that wind rushing sound too.

[scottiethebody0]

am i the only one that thought the camaro sounded really nice?

[Froggybomb]

awesome races! BTW thanks for rolling up the window lol, i also hate the wind noise Maro all day baby! =]... don't get me wrong... i love Audi's as well.. just... i own a camaro lol

[V10DZLTREG]

wow, I can't believe the S4 wasted it's gas......Rather have that S4 bone stock and an auto trans than the Maro all day long.

[Snizzy2]

LOL.. that was me closing the window at speed. I did it because of my hatred of racing videos with nothing but wind noise after 80mph. Had nothing to do with going faster! We just happen to pull when the windows went up, lol!

[thekidofmany]

@Snizzy2 you sir are a genus i hate hearing all that wind after 80 thank you so much for rolling the window up.

[TurboBoostTurboBoost]

did the guy in the audi close his window to go faster >_>? (0:47)

[empiking66]

audi driver, thank you for rolling up the window so i didnt have to listen to that shitbox anymore.

[rj454chevy]

@empiking66 ur a fucking idiot that audi had TT's, magine if that camaro had twin turbos, and the camaro was still pulling

[A4rings]

@rj454chevy no you are a fucking idiot. What if the audi had a 5.7L instead of a 2.7!! bla bla bla, run what you brung. I wouldnt call the camaro lightly modded either. Neither of the cars are at full potential. If you say ok put turbos on the camaro, then the s4 should go fit some real man turbos (gt28 or gt30r) rather than the relatively small factory rs6 turbos.......

[njwrestler07]

haha the guy in the camaro is hilarious when he shifts

[mbudden0]

the camaro looked like it was ready to fly

[ljdgm]

Damn good races!

[mikestylz96]

it looked like that audi was slightly faster. imagine if the camaro was turbocharged!

[invizi0n]

wooot uber super cars

[styles2769]

Great video, I have been around LS motors for a long time and the camaro did well for the mods it had. Interested in what gear he was using though. After 5 years, I finally got rid of my camaro to find something more suitable to put my son into. The b5s4 and CTS-v's are what I am down to looking at.

[averrett]

video said 4.10's

[ckoski101]

excellent vid. you know how to record races thats for damn sure!

[Attickaa]

usdm all the way

[gti2795]

the the guy driving the s4 needs to learn how to drive.I give it to the guy in the camaro he could drive, but the rs6'd s4 should have def. pulled especially up top

[skylinegtr1001]

yea that was a close race good cars BOTH of them, I dont understand why you people get so upset or angry its not your cars, its just fun

[68snatchback]

audis need a lot of work befoer i would call them fast, i walked a stock s4 this same body style with a single cam civic on only 8 lbs! and a dx tranny, they def not worth wut u have to pay for one

[sgtsmitty98]

lol, a 3200 pound or less civic with 8lbs and 2wd vs a 4850lb german AWD sedan on 11pounds. your probably right you did walk him/her. have you ever seen a 3200 pound s4? with no mods other than dropping the weight known to people with money as luxury and ammeneties the 6speed will do 12's.

[A4rings]

@sgtsmitty98 you dont know what you are talking about.hahah the b5 s4 is MAX 3700lbs and a old civic hatch is probably right around 2000lbs.

[BoostnLT1]

@A4rings ur a jackass. a 2.7 s4 weighs more then my 4th gen firebird! its over 4200lbs. look it up my room mate has a B5 s4.

[A4rings]

@BoostnLT1 ohh okay because your roommate has a s4 your supposed to know alot about them? obviously not, who the hell told you it weighs over 4200? even the 2010 b8 s4 thats ALOT bigger does not weigh that much.

 B5 s4 2.7 :Curb weight: 1,535 kg (3,384 lb) - 1,680 kg (3,704 lb) (variance is for sedan and wagon) NOW YOU CAN GO LOOK IT UP AND FEEL STUPID!!

[A4rings]

@A4rings oh and i forgot to mention you drive an LT1? go get yourself at least an ls1

[Ajehoti]

@68snatchback

you my friend are absolutely full of crap, i guarantee a stock s4 with the restriction off would rip your single cam a new one, and your one wheel spin no torque wonder can never walk a stock s4, sorry bro you must a met a bad driver, come run me, single turbo gt35r S4, then we can see wassup

[68snatchback]

@Ajehoti ALL U YUPPY'S ARE ALL THE SAME! all in denial! anyway no point arguin over a computer unless ur anywhere near n.c. theres no point in tlakin shit! i have since i posted on this also pulled on my buddies s4 to further prove to myself that the stock s4 really isnt impressive, hey maybe urs is, idk nor do i really care! i've seen a ford pinto run 9's dont mean im gonna go buy one! have fun workin on the german turd! i've moved on to better things u should too

[A4rings]

@68snatchback ok, whats your point? your single cam civic weighs as much of one of my shits. put the equivalent kind of work into the s4 and it will be "fast" 120+mph in the 1/4 with a bolt on kit is fast no matter what...

[tansuperman06]

he prolly turned up the boost..lol

[69gearsnatcha]

yo dude was running the snot outta that camaro hells yea. i wonder what finally got into the audi at those last two races.good video

[silver2002ta]

Great driving in the camaro. That thing will fly with a bottle

[SSickLS1]

camaro driver is fukin good man. sweet......ls1 4 life

[aspirinemaga]

MASK UP YOUR FACE dude if it's not to late.

[XxXNyMpHoXxX]

I say it was a even race. both cars kept up with each other. nice.

[alex4576]

you know whats funny. the camaro is pretty fast. but at the same time the s4 is more of a thrill to drive. driven both and ill tell you what i put an ss with headwork to shame in a stock s4. sad but true. i cote the s4 better car overall

[Snizzy2]

Ls1's have already great flowing heads.. portwork on a 241/899 casting head is retarded unless there is a heavy cam in the motor, not to mention stock b5's dont even trap 100mph, An ls1 with a rod knock could trap that, unless Helen Keller was driving.

[dabeastsr20]

are you serious ?!?!? I got a stage3 A4 6-spd and i get 3-5 lenghts on any ls1,ls3 cars. Even when it was stock it would still run low 13's @108MPH- Bone stock, the only thing i did was a top notch tune-up and got my turbo's rebuilt because they wear out and loose pressure over timein the high RPM's. Now it runs Low 10's like nuthin @ 145mph. W/ full interior, 91 octane and the engine is anything but stock and i never touched the rest of the drive train, not even the shocks, jus some radials.:-)

[Snizzy2]

You have a modded car that beats stock cars??? YOU DON'T SAY!.

BTW no "STOCK" A4 on the face of this planet runs within 1.5 seconds of low 13's and within 10mph of that time.. so you might want to call guiness when you're done running your fingers on the keyboard, Mr. Internet Warrior.

BTW as I just read the rest of your response it's clear to me you are lying out your ass Mr. No video havin' low 10 second A4... LOL Calm down Vin.

[challengerman15]

@Snizzy2 yeah no kidding i hate fuckin morons who talk like that,the new srt-8 stock is barely a car that'll run low 13's

[atompkins99]

@Snizzy2 LMAO.... Johnny Tran is going nuts at the drag strip in his 10 sec. stock A4....

[atompkins99]

@Snizzy2 LMAO.... Johnny Tran is going nuts at the drag strip in his 10 sec. stock A4.... badass Camaro broseph, I've driven both cars and they are definitely both pretty quick stock, u guys have a couple of beasts there.

[dabeastsr20]

Yes you are very right, no stock s4 can trap 100mph, my friend is alwaysusing my PC and likes to talk shit wit my user name cuz i leave it open,and he brags bout the s4, my respons to you was from me about it doing 108, i still kept my time slips, and it was seriously stock except for the rebuilt turbos( but they seemed alittle diff then stock but IDK cuz i had to put them on because my old ones were shit and i just need new ones. It is as fast as i say it is, i shit you not...

[dabeastsr20]

no i have no vids, i have no camera cuz i put all my $ into my cars. i will try to get vids of it before the summer is up( I go to dragway 42 in west salem ohio and i race my RED audi s4 up there, and make some vids. I jus have nobody to hold the camera.lol.

[danielabq22]

@dabeastsr20

you are full of shit. an rs4 runs low 13's. an s4 runs high 13's to low 14's. A4 isn't anywhere near 13's high or low stock

[MrDans4]

@Snizzy2

i trapped 98 mph with a stock S4, with passenger.

[lysenko133]

the camaro didnt get raped...it kept up with a TWIN TURBO'd car...fucking idiot..

[A4rings]

@lysenko133 the camaro is a 5.7 and the s4 is a 2.7 YOU FUCKING IDIOT!

[lysenko133]

@A4rings lose

[lysenko133]

@A4rings look at the fucking video again shit face, fuckin stupid piece of shit.

[A4rings]

@lysenko133 What exatly am I looking at the video again for? My comment about what u said had nothing to do with the video. U were just complaining that the s4 needed twin turbos to be as fast as the camaro and that if the camaro had turbos it would be faster etc.. I pointed out that the Camaro is a 5.7 and if you want to cry and say turbo the camaro and see what happens. The you can also say upgrade the turbos on the s4 and see what happens and ur a stupid piece of shit yourself

[SniperReBorn650]

Lolz The camero got ass raped

[mrhemp3985]

i like s4's own a 00 myself. gotta give it to that camero though, that fucker has balls, just watch the front end lift off.

[thacrunkmasta69]

Fairly even match up. Good races!!

[biscuitninja]

Add a little 75 shot and watch that car beat up ALOT of cars. Chebbies make such GOOD engines....

[Sma4eva69]

Okay, this is my personal car. The S4 that is. This was within the 1st month that I had owned the car. I was still learning shift points and such. The car did trap 124 but not the way it sits. It is down 2lbs or boost for long term reliability. 4 Season daily driven 460awhp weight around 3750.

[jibberjive]

60lb injectors? 124 mph is def fast, but I would think a fully built RS6 setup on meth would be able to trap higher than the high end KO4 cars.

[Snizzy2]

I'd like to see one full weigh K04 car driven to the track outtrap 124 on pump/meth @ lebanon.... just one... LOL

[jibberjive]

So around what does an LS1 with cams/heads/boltons put down at the rear wheels, and what do those camaro's weigh? I'm a little surprised it was so even, if that's really Tony's car.

[Snizzy2]

The owner was new to the car and didn't know the best spot to shift it.

You can tell by the last race he had figured it out..

The car has trapped 124 the way it sat in the vid.

[bpark8824]

Love both cars, awesome vid man.

Those connecticut plates? Couldn't quite see kinda looks like fall in CT... im also from CT.

[4vrzero]

He's probably pushing 420-450 depending on if its tuned or not. They weigh in about 3600. This was a good matchup, Id say drivers race

[subaruone]

how come the camaro had good races in the start and then the audi started winning in the end? did the camaro had nitrous?

[Snizzy2]

The owner of the S4 was still new to the car. The only difference the last race was shifting 300-400 rpm EARLIER... he was trying to make up for being behind the first 3 races and was pilling the car past its usuable powerband.

[subaruone]

oh so he would have won all other races if he would have shifted earlier then?

[Snizzy2]

maybe.. the camaro is not so much the slouch that the trap speed indicates.. plus the camaro driver knows how to drive, and drive consistent. The Audi is still new to its owner and he needs to learn what works best.

That's the beauty of unbiased vids like these.. they post real world results (that sometimes swap outcomes) unlike people who pick on slower cars, or lie about stats/mods to inflate their cars perceived performance.

[subaruone]

dude that is so true. i hate the fact how they say "camaro vs ricey civic"...that makes me really mad. its funny how its always the muscle car guys that do that. but thats cool that this race proved that all cars have potential, and there are always cars faster or moderate than ones self

[pancho101101]

why would you guys cut the throttle so soon? I think the Audi would have cought up on the first few races

[Snizzy2]

I dunno how you guys roll in mexico, pancho, but here in the states cutting out at over 130 isn't exactly letting out early.

Also if you look at the first couple races the audi was pulling hard midrange then after 3rd to 4th the camaro pretty much stopped it's pull.

Take it for what it is but nobody was sandbagging or letting out early, this vid was made for entertainment purposes not to settle a dispute.

[pancho101101]

lol, whoa take it easy man. Just a question? Besides, I don't live in Mexico nor is my name Pancho. It's just a username I made up. Anyway, It just seemed like the throttle was let off when it seemed like one car was catching up to another. That's

[Snizzy2]

i was just poking fun.. anyway nobody was letting off early... just a friendly race for shits and giggles.

[pancho101101]

lol, I gotcha. I'm guessing you are the audi driver right? You have a audizine account? I drive a 01 A4, account on audizine and audiforums is Hernandez3011. I wanna sell my car to buy a B5 S4, lol. They are dramatically less now.

[Snizzy2]

nah.. actually I drive the foxbody at the beggining of the vid.. I was filming in the audi.. My boy does have an account there im pretty sure.

I always liked the B5's though.. just a tuned can turn a mid 14 second family sedan into an animal.

[kingrolandofdruidia]

I wonder how it would have turned out if the maro had a 125 shot or so? the audi seemed to have quite-a-bit of lag. both sweet cars.

[ganymedeIV4]

damn dude your good at running through those gears. you must of gotten that clutch from Satan.

Extremely odd gauge placement by the way.

[tsbpenguin]

LOL. No way did that s4 have rs6's. And that camaro has way more than just heads and cams. I have a b5 s4 with just a tune and exhaust and i walk head/cam ls1's all day long... FAIL

[Snizzy2]

It's nice to know stand up comedians browse youtube. Very diverse world we live in.

tune/exhaust = trap speeds less than or equal to BOLTON ls1's. I'm pretty sure you are just making fun of audi owners... at least I hope you are.. because if you aren't you should stop drinking the koolaid at those cult meetings.

[tsbpenguin]

Good ol ls1 owners... So if trap speeds for tune/exhaust = same as bolt on ls1, how is it that a head/cam ls1 took a "rs6 turbo'd" s4? RS6 Turbo'd B5 S4 = 550whp. Must be some magical heads and cams...

[Snizzy2]

I actually roll with the ford camp hence why "ford5.0forlife" and a foxbody pops up on all my videos.

Neither you, nor anybody who has ever lived, has gained 25+ mph in the 1/4 mile with a tune on a B5 s4.. You are lying through your keyboard because of the anomity of the internet. Your cars trap 96-99 stock.. A heads cam car traps upper teens to upper 120's. You do not have a magical tune the rest of the world doesn't know about.. you are not special.. your opinion is flawed. You are wrong.

[Snizzy2]

Ask Tony Chick @ EPL what a tuned B5 puts down.. then use simple power/weight to realize your car wouldn't trap better than a 106 and probably not outrun a BOLTON LS1 like I said... even then YOU'RE STILL 20+MPH TO SLOW TO DO WHAT YOU CLAIM...

Respond again and I'm blocking your ass.

[tsbpenguin]

Dude you're a tool. STFU and block my ass then.

[Snizzy2]

No you're a snot nosed little punk kid with itchy keyboard fingers and a lack of common sense to back up your parents dime you probably race with.

You know damn well a tuned B5 wouldn't outrun most bolton ls1's let alone Heads/Cam cars.

You were all cocky before, now you pulled the chute?

[tsbpenguin]

Dude the point i was trying to make was that your video claims a head/cam LS1 beats a rs6 turbo'd s4 which is a 500-550awhp car. It was probably just chipped. I'd be more than happy to race any bolt on or h/c/i ls1 and get it on video to prove my point. So if you know anyone in the CO area with those, or if you feel like coming to CO, i'm more than willing to prove my point. Or I could do like you did and go out and race a stock ls1 and post up a video saying "Stock s4 rapes fully built ls1"

[Snizzy2]

The owner of one of the most REKNOWN tuning shops for Audi's is Tony Chick at European Performance Labs (EPL).. This is HIS CAR that HE BUILT.. it did 124mph traps the way it sat in the video.. AND IF YOU COULD FUCKING READ it says 460AWHP on a mustang dyno.

I know this because I know Tony, and the owner of the AUDI. AND I WAS FILMING IN THE AUDI

Your car is not fast. NO B5 S4 has EVER been fast on stock turbos with a canned tune. You cannot beat H/C ls1's

and BTW I OWN A MUSTANG not LS1

[Snizzy2]

If you think that is a stock LS1 you shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion and/or procreate.... That would promote cleansing of the gene pool for future generations so they don't get it twisted in thinking a stock turbo TUNED b5s4 is anything other than good competition for 10-15 year old stock/BOLTON muscle cars

[supraturboLBJ]

great vid......cars were almost equal.....those LS1's are crazy

[R4zzleTXD4zzle]

lol Audi FTW

[TaekwondoGuy86]

audi for the win ? you fucking nim rod that camaro won. that shit... so the audi wins 1 damn race congrats holy shit

[bostondub]

hahaha suckas audi was just playn around.

[jongil1]

that's a sick camaro man. i love how fast it goes through the gears, you're a quick shifter too.

[oistein74]

Fast Camaro! 5 star video. More like this pretty please...

[REGALBOY82]

I think the z28 is a hair faster, but its racing a 4 door, good video

[nc98m3]

according to the results in that video (camaro traps 117, but the S4 could barely pull on it), that s4 would only be trapping 118-119....a "built" RS6 car on meth + built heads should be trapping almost 130, if not 130. Either something is wrong with the S4, or the camaro has more done to his car than he's leading on to have.

[RatedS4]

The owner just doesn't know how to drive. A tricycle could smoke a f430 is the driver sucks complete ass. Props to the camaro, nice car!

[tike0rz]

Nice races. Thanks for the good video too, in car ftw!

[Xarmy187]

the 'maro driver fucking YANK's thouse gear's :)

[Snizzy2]

Not to mention did you see the last race? only difference was shifting the car 3-400 rpms earlier.

Oh.. and in case you forgot since the last vid.. THE CAR TRAPPED 124.X MPH the way it sat in the vid.. Its just a matter of learning the best driving technique..

You should go back to the other narcissistic mufuckas at audiworld forums and leave the real world results to speak for themselves.

[suzuki400boi]

If your talking to 98Cm3 your no gonna get through that thick skull of his. He drive's a BMW he's an asshole.

[Snizzy2]

Nah just Bluestage3...

nc98m3 can speculate and add shit up on paper all he wants... real world results speak for themselves.. not a 1 time, race gas, kill file, trailer queen track run that sets a benchmark for the entire performance community to hope to achieve.

[suzuki400boi]

No doubt.

[Snizzy2]

Seriously.. stop..

This isn't your damn car. The camaro isn't as much of a pushover as the trap speed suggests.

You should be thanking me for posting shit that you can put under your pillow at night to sleep better.

[bluestage3]

Audi need a new tune :) slow for rs6's can't even take a car that traps 117