@Xrobnunez24 The driver has a HUGE impact on the vehicle...they don't drive them selves...If the guy in the Jeep would hit that obstacle with a little more momentum he would have cleared it no problem. Another thing to state.. MOST people who buy Land Rovers wouldn't dream of getting their "toy" dirty. Not all but most. Same with Hummers (H2) Jeep is the best out there because they're cheaper to manufacture than LR's and H2's and they are more capable off the assembly line.
I would take they jeep any day personal. 4.0L is still running at 385,000km. Never left me stranded. This is a video demonstrating TC. Not how capable these vehicles are.
Land Rover is simply applying a bit of brake to the wheel without traction causing the diff to send traction to the other wheel. And yes in this exact situation it helps. In many cases pumping or fanning the brake will also cause the jeep to send some power to the wheel with least traction and can be handy in situations like this (but where you don't actually have a choice of what approach angle to use).
I am not criticizing the video, it is a good example of traction control doing its job.
apples and oranges. Drowned 4.0l cherokee and got an S1 LR V8i, then i look at these comparison videos and think wtf? jeep was great in some situations, LR is great in others. But comparing a 2.5 ton vehicle to a 1.5 ton vehicle is just silly.
Have taken both cars to the tip of Australia and up the creb track here in QLD and both are very capable. This video shows one thing, that approach angle doesn't work for a live axle jeep just as anyone who knows anything about differentials will tell you,
I don't give a shit about the vehicles. What I want to know is why they chose to fuck up the edge of the road to prove something? Nice way to tread lightly.....
Why are you filming straight into the sun? That was annoying to watch. Also, get the dude with the cell phone out of the way of what you are trying to film.
If im driving a jeep with an open diff, im not going to approach on an angle cuz as soon as i get one wheel without traction im screwed. id go right at it...its only a curb...RAM IT! lol
The fact that they are deliberately pitting a AWD with a 4x4 open diff and thier approach doesnt do either vehicle justice takes away from the legitimacy here. But id give it to a landrover anyday...all in all better offroad vehicle...if ya can afford it.
My brother -in law has the same Jeep in the video and I have virtually the same Land Rover when he and I have been out wheeling the only way he could make it up the same stuff I could do is to get a running start with a lot of throttle. Needless to say he wants a Land Rover now and wants to junk the Jeep.
This is what a stock 03 Land Rover can do against a stock Jeep. Of particular note is the Land Rover here in question is running on low profile street tires and on top of that the transfer case in the Land Rover is an open transfer case making the Land Rover a truly all-wheel-drive only vehicle. The Jeep got beat by an all-wheel-drive vehicle not a 4x4. To be a 4x4 the Land Rover would have to have a locking transfer case like the Jeep. In 04 the LR went to a locking transfer case and 4x4.
@jeffro0502 you're not explaining it right. There is no such thing as an "open transfer case". The difference between an AWD set up and a 4x4 set up is a differential. AWD cars have a center differential instead of a transfer case. This allows the front and rear tires to move at different speeds so that the drivetrain doesn't experience warping when driving on pavement. You're entire argument is also entirely wrong also. The LR has a locking center diff. It's the same as the jeep when locked.
@TopGearFan92 do your research, that 03 land rover does not have a locking transfer case. Also it is an open transfer case or limited slip transfer case much like an open differential, but it is none the less a transfer case as you can select from high and low range. Now the 04 Land Rover Discovery has a lockable transfer case, which takes it from an AWD vehicle with traction control to a 4x4 vehicle with traction control. Which still makes it even more capable than the jeep.
@jeffro0502 What are you talking about? Do your research. There is no such thing as a limited slip or open transfer case. If you knew anything about cars or truck then you would know this. The land rover has a center "DIFFERENTIAL". Say it with me... Diff-er-en-tial. Not a transfer case. A transfer case is either on or off and maintains a 50/50 split. Please google the difference between AWD vs 4wd before you open your mouth. I was incorrect about the LR though in 03 they dont have a locking dif
@jeffro0502 Also The LR has traction control while the jeep does not. This means the LR won't let any of the wheels just spin while the other tire has no power. Both the Jeep and the LR have front and rear open differentials. So LR wins because the jeep has no way of not letting one wheel just spin. However, we are talking about a price difference of over 30k between the two trucks. If you drop a locking differential in the front and rear of the jeep for about 2-4k, the jeep will win every time.
@TopGearFan92 O3 discoverys come with a transfer case but land rover eliminate the link to engage the 4x4, so from 2001 to 2003 all discoverys are AWD..... For discos owners, there's an eazy up-grade to convert this AWD to 4x4.
@saturbo1107 simply lacking the ability to lock the central differential doesn't make it an AWD. you also have to consider the fact that even those model disco's are in permanent 4WD mode, and they have the low range function, which no AWD vehicle has. if anything, its somewhere in the middle
Only way to settle the big "Landrover v's Jeep" dispute is to have a face off between a standard and unmodified Landrover Defender and a standard and unmodified Jeep. send them both over a challenging off road course or two and see who comes out on top. My moneys on the Defender personally.
@tdci160 Imagin if an lr suv beat a jeep, A land rover defendef its even more capable. To beging with the, Defender comes wit a long travel suspetion and PLUS the all come with a 3 link suspention in the back wich alaud them used that Suspention in serius terrains, also the come with """"Adjustable traction control"""" Like any LR today or RR... Greate departure angle, Plus This truck is made in aluminum wich makes the truck super light. Not to mention a 4.6 V-8 Eng with 325 lbs torque......
@tdci160 - I agree bit with 1 caveat ... they must have the SAME driver. It's time people stop praising just the vehicle & realize that driver ability & a knowledge of your vehicle makes a world of difference in any challenge.
i like reading the comments from the jeep fans: 'shit driver', 'wasnt in 4wd', 'if it had a 3inch lift it would smash the landrover'.........for all u jeep fans getting upset, dont think of it as jeep vs landrover, think of it as it really is which is traction control vs standard open diffs.
@2bornottoby Hahahahaha.. I know right. People just don't get it..... But I tell you something. Once u modified a jeep its another story, But onve again. Once u modified a rover is another story too =D..... The white jeep it's my cousing, Now sit's on 38" swampers and my disco is riding on 35" Pitbulls rockers!!!! Now His got a big advantage over me!!!
this also has a lot to do with clearance man of course the rover did better vs. a stock jeep if the jeep had a lift it would have blown the rover out of the water
If you left foot braked that may have helped, dragging the brake can trans-fare enough power to the non spinning wheel by dragging and slowing the turning wheel. Works sometimes.
@nayboardie not really, this is more of a demonstration of open differentials (aka non locking differentials) vs open differentials with traction control when attacking this kind if incline at a angle. even with traction control on open differentials it still does not beat locking differentials.
So no the drivers do not = fail, its open differentials that = fail. enough said
@madmax2069 I am pretty confident that it could of been traversed easily if the Jeep had a limited slip rear and perhaps the front sway bar disconnected. Lockers should not of been needed.
@OdinsCloud you would still be dangling the tires (which would be spinning due to lack of traction or no traction) at this angle of attack even if you did remove the sway bars, Yes you would gain extra wheel articulation but would still suffer from having a open diff (loss of traction) and would still make things hard to traverse at this angle like they are demonstrating here. I am not talking about the grade itself, watch?v=-S2nDDvKHoA as a example.
Both of those vehicles had no real suspension articulation at all. I have a 92 RR classic and I have never once had an issue such as the two vehicles in this video had. It has to be a helluva angle to get any of my tires off the ground and I still have the sway bars in place.
you are ignorant. Landies, yotas and jeeps are some of the best off road rigs in the world. They have there place. In the states you barely can find a LR on the trails. Most are at the mall looking pretty, what a shame. The newer yotas are rarely out as well. Oh and before you diss on the jeeps lets see your awesome vids. Not talking about the puddle jumping that you are doing.
@TeXJ2424 wow! you got some hardcore vids offroading not! mate puddle jumping diffrence is my landrover will go through water yours would probably stall in the water coz your dizzy would get wet lol, but i will give you some facts as to why i dislike jeeps firstly i know people that own them they can rarely go where a landrover can, they have crap suspension prehistoric leaf springs and terrible 4 wheel drive no difflock, landrover have used proper coil overs since the 60's jeeps still use leafs
@tomtom590 actually all new jeeps since 1990 have had at least front coil springs and all jeeps since 2002 (correct me if im wrong) have had full coil springs.
Because American's always distort the real use of a car..........those land rovers SHOULD be on the trails.
But American's (who I believe should ALL be nuked and raped and exterminated, that's another story) and those NIGGERS, ruin our European cars, they put chrome wheels and "low ride" them? What is wrong with you guys.
Land Rover has been kicking Jeep arse for a century.
Actually, every European thing is better than the American version.
@slobhinav Wow, you really are jaded. Those fine Euro cars like Citroen,Yugo,... ok.... Those land rover arent even being put off the pavement even in Europe. The only true off road Land Rover is the Defender 90 and 110s. The rest just have nice little gadgets, that will rarely be used except maybe in snow. And no Land Rover has not been beating Jeep in off road. At least in the states, the Jeep brand has more aftermarket support than any other vehicle.
Yeah, I know Jeep's are great vehicles, both are good at their own things. If you want to off road in Africa or Europe, Land Rovers are great. Off roading in US is different, the Jeep is better for offroading there.
@slobhinav actually land rover hasn't even been around for a century and the first land rovers were jeep frames and parts all they did was put coil springs on and change the body so if land rovers had to copy of a jeep then i wonder who is better after all they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
@traina26 The first prototype land rovers made in 1947 only used Jeep chassis (which were soon changed) and used the engine and gearbox out of a Rover P3 saloon car.
@TeXJ2424lol sorry im not as keen as you and post every video i do up, on the internet, lol puddle jumping i dont see any vids with going through water, thats cos your crappy petrol engines will cut out in them my diesel is far superior to your petrol engine the dizzy and coil will get covered in water, ark and cut out, all i see in your vids is a garbage plastic jeep falling over, your a shit driver and your unstable leaf sprung car is muck!!
@mikeboise The jeep was in 4low, The Land Rover on hig gear not using the CDL or ARB lockers... Try to understand some aspects in this video: Open diferentials and and how traction control work. Look for this info online.. It will help you understand the video... Thanks for watching!!!!
@mikeboise looks like you dont even understand how a 4x4 system without locking diffs works... it will just spin the wheel thats easyest to spin, traction control just applys the brakes to that wheel making harder to spin forcing the other wheels to spin. With all the diffs locked all the wheels will spin at the same speed not that hard to understand really.
@SPQRnonOmnisMoriar The point here was to show that any 4wd with an open diferential on this particular situation will come into a halt bcz the wheel on the gound will stop spining transfering all the traction to the wheel that can move eazy so the wheel on the air will spind loosing traction...........
@saturbo1107 Let make a 4x4 school for those people that are only fanatic... Jjjj I undertand you very good, I have a F150 with positraction and the diferent between my granddpas Jeep(with open diferential) are big... Open diferential are not good when off roading...Sorry about my English...
hears the thing, if you are in the market for a new jeep, the disco 2 are a better deal, sure jeep has improved over the years, but u get right down to it, bye the time you fix up ur jeep to make it comparable to the disco, well u might of well bought the disco, yes I own a jeep, and its up for sale so I can buy a disco.
La razon por que la land rover entra facil, es por que pesa mucho mas, mete a 6 personas en el jeep y hazlo de nuevo y veras que hace lo mismo que la land rover
@lauwke123 Well gess what! The land rover 2003 don't come with central diff lock.... Now explaing me how she made it???? And the jeep wit a diff lock can't.........
Second, find a driver for the jeep that isn't a complete idiot. If you've got open diffs, get a little speed. Momentum will pull you over. My buddy took hills twice the size of that last night with open diffs. Come on now.
Cool video. But the argument for disco vs. jeep is stupid. Land rover is a much more expensive car with lockers already built in. A jeep is thousands of dollars cheaper without lockers. So spend the money on a detroit for the rear an ARB for the front, you'll go anywhere plus some in the jeep and still save some money to play around with. And you'll want a solid axle when rock crawling.
@BigWalkinTallV Waaiiiiit right there....Discos with lockes from factory??????????? oh yea a 2003 0r even a 2004? Dude before posting something that you don't know, search a litle in the web and then post what ever you want..... This is a 2003 with no lockers and no center diff lock...... Now the jeep here come with center diff lock.
@saturbo1107 Whoops, my mistake. "Traction control". And I am not sure what you meant in your last sentence but the Jeep does not have a center diff, if that is what you said. My point, regardless of my error in terminology, the Rover has a system in place to control wheel spin and power. The Jeep does not. Hence, stock improvements like this from the factory make the difference in the video above. Although the Jeep could have easily topped that hill if he gave it some skinny pedal.
@saturbo1107 Didn't they have traction control 99-04? When in a twist, any form of traction control or lockers makes all the difference. If the diffs were completely open and ESPECIALLY if there was no center diff lock, it would not have moved the way it did. Also, there is only a "center diff lock" in the Jeep if it has the full time 4WD option. Otherwise, it is never UNlocked. Oh, well. Almost every thread like this is apples and oranges anyway. Drive your rovers and jeeps and stfu :-)
@floydargue The jeep was loock on the center.... The disco was open on the center and diff also open, the only thing helping the disco here is the traction control...
@landykid Maybe if you have the money. Your saying that these people who just got their first vehicle and like to offroad, should just lie down and give up when compared to a Land Rover? I mean, don't get me wrong. I am a car fanatic i see both sides, Land Rovers are good for offroading. Provided you can afford one. But some people can only do what they can with a $500 jeep cherokee. Mostly, it comes down to the driver. The rest is up to how much money you want to sink into your vehicle.
for one...put the jeep in 4 wheel...and 2...dont use the breaks at the crest of the hill...you must be tryin to sell that land rover because you can do a lot more mods to the jeep for far less money
Shiiiittt............ My 1978 Dodge B200 van has done waaayyyy more extreme off`roading then that and never got stuck. I took it through almost 3 feet of mud and all it has is RWD and it did just fine
Who ever was driving the Disco is an idiot! Just stick it into 4L, lock the diffs and you'll get through that with no problems. You don't have a 4x4 unless you have diff locks. A pair of ARB lockers on that jeep and it will go anywhere, a $2,000 upgrade.
Who ever was driving the Disco is an idiot! Just stick it into 4L, lock the diffs and you'll get through that with no problems. You don't have a 4x4 unless you have diff locks. A pair of ARB lockers on that jeep and it will go anywhere, a $2,000 upgrade.
@tankxE80 JAJAJAAJAJAJA A jeep thing!! LMaooooo I know men, nothing like traction control plus centra diff lock!!! BEAST !!!!!.... This video i had my disco on hi gear and no cdl lock, so you can imagin the guy on the jeep JAJAAJAJJAJAAJAJAJJAJA
@alexlam24 Nope, we come back 2 week after and try againg and nothing, then a week later he step on the gas and made, almost roll and end up with a front axle housing =x
I want to see a Jeep Grand Cherokee AWD vs a Land Rover.
And don't tell me Jeeps only have 4X4, I had a uncle who brought a Cherokee new off the lot with AWD (all wheel drive). He traded it a few years later for a truck (for work purposes.)
@justinlynch3 That will be interesting to see... I got a video in here with a 4x4 cherokee vs my disco and a range rover climing a litle hill.... funn to watch
today my dad was considerd crazy by 3 atv guys when he went up a rock coverd hill in his stock LR. a jeep saw it and turnd back after looking at it. rockes were sticking out there was like a 3-4 foot deep hole that you had to get in and out of at the beginning but over all the whole thing was rediculos. in my opinion jeeps are only good for off roading when you have invested thousands of dollars in upgrades to it.
there is NO reason why that jeep shouldn't be able to clear that obstacle. i wish i was there to show yall how its done in my 93 wrangler (lifted 33's locking hubs) lol and i wish i was there to show you how its done in my fathers 78 CJ7...bone stock.
lol anyway, glad to see yall are having fun. tread lightly my friends.
Don't the jeep driver know how to drive? a touch of brake pedal just at the right moment would have got him over that. Left foot braking is traction control for those that know how to drive 4x4's. Rev and spin the wheels is for people who dont know how to drive off road . Now go back to that spot and try it again, drive it properly and film him getting it right.
Stock for stock Any land rover but the Freelander will best a Jeep off road. The stock Rubicon will give it some competition. I have owned a CJ-7 Cherokee and Grand Cherokee. The Land Rovers and much heavier duty. My CJ-7 was heavily modified and in that state it would beet my Land Rovers but stock there is no way any of the jeeps that I have owned would stand up to the abuse my rovers have. The parts that break are anoying, But they are never axles or major parts like my jeeps broke.
hahahaha at the end it all comes to the driver skills......
cuz you buy a jeep, it doesent mean you know how to do things.. please for god sake some one show this fella how to use his jeep. the only land rover that keep up with a jeep wrangler is the defender we all know that for a fact¡¡¡
hahahaha at the end it all comes to the driver skills......
cuz you buy a jeep, it doesent mean you know how to do things.. please for god sake some one show this fella how to use his jeep. the only land rover that keep up with a jeep wrangler is the defender we all know that for a fact¡¡¡
I love Land Rovers, but i own a jeep..in fact a 98 wrangler like the one shown-4cyl in fact! But looking at this video, i can tell you that i could prob get over that hump without too much of an issue. If that angle doesnt work, id take it head on, may even try 4low. taking it sideways didnt work, try a different approach. BTW, all my jeep has is 31s and a 2.5" rough country lift. im pretty sure id make it.
Not talking shit but what was the purpose of this? Maybe its because I have a 8in suspension lift on 37in tires, but I dont have much trouble with curbs. lol The Rover is very nice looking.
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@296jayce Yea in certain off road abilities yea the Rover wins, but the H1 has the power and the ruggedness that the rover can never have. Hide behind the Luxury all you like in the rover but in hands down ball busting work, ther rover just does not measure up. But they both have there strong points in abilities to do what they do best.
Land rovers use a traction device that tells the brakes to grab when there's detected wheels spin basically rendering the driver a noob that hopes for the best, the guy in the jeep is also a noob that doesn't know how to left foot brake to lock his driveline. So this vid is dumb.
@CanadaBud23 Yea bad driver in the jeep. The rover also is filled with a bunch of computer shit that makes off roading to easy in a rover. Strip all that off and go, 4 wheel to 4wheel jeep will kick rovers ass.
@blackraven2488 Doubt it chap..Strip off all the electronic stuff and you have the Discovery 1, which uses the series 1 Rangey set up and will eat any Jeep alive! Put a Series 1 88 inch Landy there and it will have been off road 10 minutes before either
@blackraven2488 wait....why would you take OFF all the stuff tha makes it better off road? all that "computer shit" as you say? In that case, put the 29 inch factory tires back on the wrangler to make it stock again.
Im a jeep owner, but i still have to give respect to landrover. Landrover has been making 4x4 machines that have been to every corner of the earth, and with that comes the best 4x4 system. Have you ever seen those LR3's trechin throughthe amazon and stuff! thats intense drivin right there.
well, then put a rubicon against it. seems about fair. and most lr/rr come with front and rear arb lockers
usmc1stin100 3 days ago
Give the jeep some lockers and it would be twice as capable as the land rover.
beaglemanzzz 1 month ago
Jeep 4evar
moneshmahtani 1 month ago
bigdreamer66 What a hay name and land rovers are the best jeeps cant go anywhere its not the driver is the car
Xrobnunez24 1 month ago
@Xrobnunez24 The driver has a HUGE impact on the vehicle...they don't drive them selves...If the guy in the Jeep would hit that obstacle with a little more momentum he would have cleared it no problem. Another thing to state.. MOST people who buy Land Rovers wouldn't dream of getting their "toy" dirty. Not all but most. Same with Hummers (H2) Jeep is the best out there because they're cheaper to manufacture than LR's and H2's and they are more capable off the assembly line.
thunderingherd21 2 weeks ago
land rover is the best
waqasali037 2 months ago
Jeeps can go anywhere...... but not all drivers can.
bigdreamer66 2 months ago 3
he has no idea of off road
GriffVirgil 3 months ago
I would take they jeep any day personal. 4.0L is still running at 385,000km. Never left me stranded. This is a video demonstrating TC. Not how capable these vehicles are.
Lukeatone 4 months ago 2
Land Rover is simply applying a bit of brake to the wheel without traction causing the diff to send traction to the other wheel. And yes in this exact situation it helps. In many cases pumping or fanning the brake will also cause the jeep to send some power to the wheel with least traction and can be handy in situations like this (but where you don't actually have a choice of what approach angle to use).
I am not criticizing the video, it is a good example of traction control doing its job.
kr09d 5 months ago
apples and oranges. Drowned 4.0l cherokee and got an S1 LR V8i, then i look at these comparison videos and think wtf? jeep was great in some situations, LR is great in others. But comparing a 2.5 ton vehicle to a 1.5 ton vehicle is just silly.
Have taken both cars to the tip of Australia and up the creb track here in QLD and both are very capable. This video shows one thing, that approach angle doesn't work for a live axle jeep just as anyone who knows anything about differentials will tell you,
kr09d 5 months ago 2
The jeep has shit axle articulation. That's why it lost.
bnipmnaa 5 months ago
I don't give a shit about the vehicles. What I want to know is why they chose to fuck up the edge of the road to prove something? Nice way to tread lightly.....
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Messing up the roadside, yay! At least you didn't throw too much rubbish onto the road surface.
vanRijn64 5 months ago
once again, someone making a video with stupid drivers
moncier77 5 months ago
Not the vehicle's fault as much as the driver's.
xAE7x 5 months ago
Why are you filming straight into the sun? That was annoying to watch. Also, get the dude with the cell phone out of the way of what you are trying to film.
TheInsideBirdTurd 5 months ago
just one of the reason why you should own a land rover or rang rover over jeep if you want a real suv.
genefury75 5 months ago
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Worst comparison ever, vehicles are not comparitive....I will beat the Landrover hands down with a Grand Cherokee...hie hie
execbrok 6 months ago
Worst comparison ever, vehicles are not comparitive....I will beat the Landrover hands down with a Grand Cherokee...hie hie
execbrok 6 months ago
@execbrok What do you want to compare it to a Defender 90 or 110 and it will be the same outcome.
ramonj08 5 months ago
fuckin hit it, pussy!
madmanmillett 6 months ago
If im driving a jeep with an open diff, im not going to approach on an angle cuz as soon as i get one wheel without traction im screwed. id go right at it...its only a curb...RAM IT! lol
The fact that they are deliberately pitting a AWD with a 4x4 open diff and thier approach doesnt do either vehicle justice takes away from the legitimacy here. But id give it to a landrover anyday...all in all better offroad vehicle...if ya can afford it.
Ryantube007 6 months ago
My brother -in law has the same Jeep in the video and I have virtually the same Land Rover when he and I have been out wheeling the only way he could make it up the same stuff I could do is to get a running start with a lot of throttle. Needless to say he wants a Land Rover now and wants to junk the Jeep.
jeffro0502 6 months ago
This is what a stock 03 Land Rover can do against a stock Jeep. Of particular note is the Land Rover here in question is running on low profile street tires and on top of that the transfer case in the Land Rover is an open transfer case making the Land Rover a truly all-wheel-drive only vehicle. The Jeep got beat by an all-wheel-drive vehicle not a 4x4. To be a 4x4 the Land Rover would have to have a locking transfer case like the Jeep. In 04 the LR went to a locking transfer case and 4x4.
jeffro0502 6 months ago 4
@jeffro0502 Finally someone knows about AWD and 4x4 !!!!! Thats exctly how it is my friend!!!!!!
saturbo1107 6 months ago 4
@jeffro0502 you're not explaining it right. There is no such thing as an "open transfer case". The difference between an AWD set up and a 4x4 set up is a differential. AWD cars have a center differential instead of a transfer case. This allows the front and rear tires to move at different speeds so that the drivetrain doesn't experience warping when driving on pavement. You're entire argument is also entirely wrong also. The LR has a locking center diff. It's the same as the jeep when locked.
TopGearFan92 6 months ago 7
@TopGearFan92 do your research, that 03 land rover does not have a locking transfer case. Also it is an open transfer case or limited slip transfer case much like an open differential, but it is none the less a transfer case as you can select from high and low range. Now the 04 Land Rover Discovery has a lockable transfer case, which takes it from an AWD vehicle with traction control to a 4x4 vehicle with traction control. Which still makes it even more capable than the jeep.
jeffro0502 6 months ago
@jeffro0502 What are you talking about? Do your research. There is no such thing as a limited slip or open transfer case. If you knew anything about cars or truck then you would know this. The land rover has a center "DIFFERENTIAL". Say it with me... Diff-er-en-tial. Not a transfer case. A transfer case is either on or off and maintains a 50/50 split. Please google the difference between AWD vs 4wd before you open your mouth. I was incorrect about the LR though in 03 they dont have a locking dif
TopGearFan92 6 months ago
@jeffro0502 Also The LR has traction control while the jeep does not. This means the LR won't let any of the wheels just spin while the other tire has no power. Both the Jeep and the LR have front and rear open differentials. So LR wins because the jeep has no way of not letting one wheel just spin. However, we are talking about a price difference of over 30k between the two trucks. If you drop a locking differential in the front and rear of the jeep for about 2-4k, the jeep will win every time.
TopGearFan92 6 months ago
@TopGearFan92 O3 discoverys come with a transfer case but land rover eliminate the link to engage the 4x4, so from 2001 to 2003 all discoverys are AWD..... For discos owners, there's an eazy up-grade to convert this AWD to 4x4.
saturbo1107 5 months ago
@saturbo1107 simply lacking the ability to lock the central differential doesn't make it an AWD. you also have to consider the fact that even those model disco's are in permanent 4WD mode, and they have the low range function, which no AWD vehicle has. if anything, its somewhere in the middle
JinxanatorF22 3 months ago
@jeffro0502 finally someone who understands!
296jayce 6 months ago
Only way to settle the big "Landrover v's Jeep" dispute is to have a face off between a standard and unmodified Landrover Defender and a standard and unmodified Jeep. send them both over a challenging off road course or two and see who comes out on top. My moneys on the Defender personally.
tdci160 6 months ago 2
@tdci160 Imagin if an lr suv beat a jeep, A land rover defendef its even more capable. To beging with the, Defender comes wit a long travel suspetion and PLUS the all come with a 3 link suspention in the back wich alaud them used that Suspention in serius terrains, also the come with """"Adjustable traction control"""" Like any LR today or RR... Greate departure angle, Plus This truck is made in aluminum wich makes the truck super light. Not to mention a 4.6 V-8 Eng with 325 lbs torque......
saturbo1107 6 months ago
@tdci160 lol i think its already been done mate :) didn't see any jeeps on the camel trophy did you?
JinxanatorF22 3 months ago
@tdci160 - I agree bit with 1 caveat ... they must have the SAME driver. It's time people stop praising just the vehicle & realize that driver ability & a knowledge of your vehicle makes a world of difference in any challenge.
1Frankenrango 2 months ago
i like reading the comments from the jeep fans: 'shit driver', 'wasnt in 4wd', 'if it had a 3inch lift it would smash the landrover'.........for all u jeep fans getting upset, dont think of it as jeep vs landrover, think of it as it really is which is traction control vs standard open diffs.
2bornottoby 6 months ago
@2bornottoby Hahahahaha.. I know right. People just don't get it..... But I tell you something. Once u modified a jeep its another story, But onve again. Once u modified a rover is another story too =D..... The white jeep it's my cousing, Now sit's on 38" swampers and my disco is riding on 35" Pitbulls rockers!!!! Now His got a big advantage over me!!!
saturbo1107 6 months ago
I have a 20 year old volvo saloon and I reckon I could do better than the guy in the jeep.
jeremy1000100 7 months ago
open diffs are not true 4wd, no matter how you stack it. traction controll applies
brake to the spinning wheel forcing the other wheel to move the vehicle.
however a locker in the rear would still be better.
joracer1 7 months ago
this also has a lot to do with clearance man of course the rover did better vs. a stock jeep if the jeep had a lift it would have blown the rover out of the water
keegansamonster 7 months ago
i love that ROVER!! it looks very clean nice rims nice paint and i love the black grill. im so jealous lol :D
xvrhernandez349 8 months ago
Is the jeep even 4x4
Motobrad33 8 months ago
I have open diffs on my 2008 Jeep JK but it has traction control which actually helps in situations like this. Kinda acts like a soft locker.
mbdrmmeroc 9 months ago
lol a prius could do that...
ps i hate priuses
zvibanez21 9 months ago
If you left foot braked that may have helped, dragging the brake can trans-fare enough power to the non spinning wheel by dragging and slowing the turning wheel. Works sometimes.
radiostarcountry 9 months ago
drivers = fail
nayboardie 9 months ago
@nayboardie not really, this is more of a demonstration of open differentials (aka non locking differentials) vs open differentials with traction control when attacking this kind if incline at a angle. even with traction control on open differentials it still does not beat locking differentials.
So no the drivers do not = fail, its open differentials that = fail. enough said
madmax2069 9 months ago
@madmax2069 whats wrong with living for a change, take a run up and have some fun. you sound like a 60 year old
nayboardie 9 months ago
@nayboardie What does that have to do with anything with what i said ?
Troll harder next time
madmax2069 9 months ago
@madmax2069 I am pretty confident that it could of been traversed easily if the Jeep had a limited slip rear and perhaps the front sway bar disconnected. Lockers should not of been needed.
OdinsCloud 9 months ago
@OdinsCloud you would still be dangling the tires (which would be spinning due to lack of traction or no traction) at this angle of attack even if you did remove the sway bars, Yes you would gain extra wheel articulation but would still suffer from having a open diff (loss of traction) and would still make things hard to traverse at this angle like they are demonstrating here. I am not talking about the grade itself, watch?v=-S2nDDvKHoA as a example.
madmax2069 9 months ago
its pretty fuckin sad wen a jeep (the ideal 4x4) cant even go over a lil bank!!..wtf??
id rather have a land rover any day!..theyre a luxury car and theyll still do better than any pos jeep!!
jns66jns 11 months ago
i drove my stock jeep with open diff for a while before i lifted it 4 in with 35 in tires and even stock it done better than that...
redgoldtomato9 11 months ago
Both of those vehicles had no real suspension articulation at all. I have a 92 RR classic and I have never once had an issue such as the two vehicles in this video had. It has to be a helluva angle to get any of my tires off the ground and I still have the sway bars in place.
71grandprix 11 months ago
landrover wins with better axle articulation as well am a mechanic as well so keeping wheels on the ground helps a lot aswell
theo68able 11 months ago
jeeps really are an embarresment
tomtom590 1 year ago
iv said it before and i will say it again jeeps are shit
tomtom590 1 year ago
@tomtom590
you are ignorant. Landies, yotas and jeeps are some of the best off road rigs in the world. They have there place. In the states you barely can find a LR on the trails. Most are at the mall looking pretty, what a shame. The newer yotas are rarely out as well. Oh and before you diss on the jeeps lets see your awesome vids. Not talking about the puddle jumping that you are doing.
TeXJ2424 1 year ago
@TeXJ2424 wow! you got some hardcore vids offroading not! mate puddle jumping diffrence is my landrover will go through water yours would probably stall in the water coz your dizzy would get wet lol, but i will give you some facts as to why i dislike jeeps firstly i know people that own them they can rarely go where a landrover can, they have crap suspension prehistoric leaf springs and terrible 4 wheel drive no difflock, landrover have used proper coil overs since the 60's jeeps still use leafs
tomtom590 1 year ago
@tomtom590 actually all new jeeps since 1990 have had at least front coil springs and all jeeps since 2002 (correct me if im wrong) have had full coil springs.
traina26 11 months ago
@traina26 took them a while land rover has used coils since 68 lol
tomtom590 11 months ago
@TeXJ2424
Because American's always distort the real use of a car..........those land rovers SHOULD be on the trails.
But American's (who I believe should ALL be nuked and raped and exterminated, that's another story) and those NIGGERS, ruin our European cars, they put chrome wheels and "low ride" them? What is wrong with you guys.
Land Rover has been kicking Jeep arse for a century.
Actually, every European thing is better than the American version.
slobhinav 11 months ago
@slobhinav Wow, you really are jaded. Those fine Euro cars like Citroen,Yugo,... ok.... Those land rover arent even being put off the pavement even in Europe. The only true off road Land Rover is the Defender 90 and 110s. The rest just have nice little gadgets, that will rarely be used except maybe in snow. And no Land Rover has not been beating Jeep in off road. At least in the states, the Jeep brand has more aftermarket support than any other vehicle.
TeXJ2424 11 months ago
@TeXJ2424
Yeah, I know Jeep's are great vehicles, both are good at their own things. If you want to off road in Africa or Europe, Land Rovers are great. Off roading in US is different, the Jeep is better for offroading there.
And I was kidding all bout that racist crap lol.
slobhinav 11 months ago
@slobhinav actually land rover hasn't even been around for a century and the first land rovers were jeep frames and parts all they did was put coil springs on and change the body so if land rovers had to copy of a jeep then i wonder who is better after all they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
traina26 11 months ago
@traina26
We shouldn't get to hat imitation flattery stuff..........or else...........alot of American stuff would be "hurt"
slobhinav 11 months ago
@traina26 The first prototype land rovers made in 1947 only used Jeep chassis (which were soon changed) and used the engine and gearbox out of a Rover P3 saloon car.
JoshHurdissHall 10 months ago
@TeXJ2424lol sorry im not as keen as you and post every video i do up, on the internet, lol puddle jumping i dont see any vids with going through water, thats cos your crappy petrol engines will cut out in them my diesel is far superior to your petrol engine the dizzy and coil will get covered in water, ark and cut out, all i see in your vids is a garbage plastic jeep falling over, your a shit driver and your unstable leaf sprung car is muck!!
tomtom590 11 months ago
@tomtom590 yep you got me, golly gee you are awesome, sorry that i challenged you...
TeXJ2424 11 months ago
@TeXJ2424 thats alright, its good for people to get a reality check every now and then...
tomtom590 11 months ago
that guy in the jeep doesn't even have it in four wheel drive
mikeboise 1 year ago
@mikeboise The jeep was in 4low, The Land Rover on hig gear not using the CDL or ARB lockers... Try to understand some aspects in this video: Open diferentials and and how traction control work. Look for this info online.. It will help you understand the video... Thanks for watching!!!!
saturbo1107 1 year ago 2
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@saturbo1107 I could pass that obstacle with my Willys 1960, just using the brakes with the 4low...
Sometimes you dont need the best equipment; you just need to know how to use what you have!
:-)
But if i have money, sure i will buy bether equip lol.
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mikeboise 11 months ago
@mikeboise looks like you dont even understand how a 4x4 system without locking diffs works... it will just spin the wheel thats easyest to spin, traction control just applys the brakes to that wheel making harder to spin forcing the other wheels to spin. With all the diffs locked all the wheels will spin at the same speed not that hard to understand really.
oOiHuwOo 11 months ago
the jeep wasn't even in 4wd?
MyCoolAimName1 1 year ago
i own a 4 dr sahara edition, Jeep can do more than this... depends of who is driving.
SPQRnonOmnisMoriar 1 year ago 9
@SPQRnonOmnisMoriar The point here was to show that any 4wd with an open diferential on this particular situation will come into a halt bcz the wheel on the gound will stop spining transfering all the traction to the wheel that can move eazy so the wheel on the air will spind loosing traction...........
saturbo1107 1 year ago 5
@saturbo1107 ok bro, got ya :)
SPQRnonOmnisMoriar 1 year ago
@saturbo1107 Let make a 4x4 school for those people that are only fanatic... Jjjj I undertand you very good, I have a F150 with positraction and the diferent between my granddpas Jeep(with open diferential) are big... Open diferential are not good when off roading...Sorry about my English...
elcivil2005 9 months ago
hears the thing, if you are in the market for a new jeep, the disco 2 are a better deal, sure jeep has improved over the years, but u get right down to it, bye the time you fix up ur jeep to make it comparable to the disco, well u might of well bought the disco, yes I own a jeep, and its up for sale so I can buy a disco.
ajmille69 1 year ago
Terrible driving
BLACKSPORT53 1 year ago
only saw the jeep in 2wd whereas the rover was in 4wd. not a fair comparison at all
cripin2021 1 year ago
you're right man the jeep was in 2wd the rover in 4 wd this guys dnt knw shit about off roading bsides look at that supid mountain
45564556k1 1 year ago
@45564556k1 no im pretty sure the jeep was in 4wd too ;) at 2:18 you see its front wheel spinning.
Finlayenzo 1 year ago
the jeep didn't make it because of all the oil the LR leaked made it too slippery......
roadman89NE 1 year ago
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Try that against a Jeep Rubicon with air lockers front and rear LOL
Lowerider182 1 year ago
Try that against a Jeep Rubicon will air lockers front and rear LOL
Lowerider182 1 year ago
good video, but isn't Metallica, no way it could be Metallica
irongoxi 1 year ago
La razon por que la land rover entra facil, es por que pesa mucho mas, mete a 6 personas en el jeep y hazlo de nuevo y veras que hace lo mismo que la land rover
esmedregal28 1 year ago
this is not about jeep vs LR, this is about dif lock or no dif lock.
Any car in the world will come to a halt with one wheel in the air without diff lock.
lauwke123 1 year ago
@lauwke123 Well gess what! The land rover 2003 don't come with central diff lock.... Now explaing me how she made it???? And the jeep wit a diff lock can't.........
saturbo1107 1 year ago
this is stupid...its a curb.
samshnel 1 year ago
Second, find a driver for the jeep that isn't a complete idiot. If you've got open diffs, get a little speed. Momentum will pull you over. My buddy took hills twice the size of that last night with open diffs. Come on now.
BigWalkinTallV 1 year ago
Cool video. But the argument for disco vs. jeep is stupid. Land rover is a much more expensive car with lockers already built in. A jeep is thousands of dollars cheaper without lockers. So spend the money on a detroit for the rear an ARB for the front, you'll go anywhere plus some in the jeep and still save some money to play around with. And you'll want a solid axle when rock crawling.
BigWalkinTallV 1 year ago
@BigWalkinTallV Waaiiiiit right there....Discos with lockes from factory??????????? oh yea a 2003 0r even a 2004? Dude before posting something that you don't know, search a litle in the web and then post what ever you want..... This is a 2003 with no lockers and no center diff lock...... Now the jeep here come with center diff lock.
saturbo1107 1 year ago
@saturbo1107 Whoops, my mistake. "Traction control". And I am not sure what you meant in your last sentence but the Jeep does not have a center diff, if that is what you said. My point, regardless of my error in terminology, the Rover has a system in place to control wheel spin and power. The Jeep does not. Hence, stock improvements like this from the factory make the difference in the video above. Although the Jeep could have easily topped that hill if he gave it some skinny pedal.
BigWalkinTallV 1 year ago
@saturbo1107 Didn't they have traction control 99-04? When in a twist, any form of traction control or lockers makes all the difference. If the diffs were completely open and ESPECIALLY if there was no center diff lock, it would not have moved the way it did. Also, there is only a "center diff lock" in the Jeep if it has the full time 4WD option. Otherwise, it is never UNlocked. Oh, well. Almost every thread like this is apples and oranges anyway. Drive your rovers and jeeps and stfu :-)
floydargue 1 year ago
@floydargue The jeep was loock on the center.... The disco was open on the center and diff also open, the only thing helping the disco here is the traction control...
saturbo1107 1 year ago
HEY MOM LOOK AT ME! AM HARDCORE CLIMBMING THIS REALY TALL MOUNTIAN.
THENOXG 1 year ago 3
@THENOXG HAHAHAHAAH You really helping the jeep guys LMAOOOO
saturbo1107 1 year ago
they're retarded man it is stupid they're happy with that-u cant even call that a mountain
45564556k1 1 year ago
land rover defender would wipe the floor with any piece of american shit off road :P shame land rover didnt keep the 200 tdi tho :/
landykid 1 year ago
@landykid I know men!!!
saturbo1107 1 year ago
your stupid jeeps rule pure american breed
45564556k1 1 year ago
@45564556k1 LMAO! Grammar ?
aninka00 10 months ago
@landykid Maybe if you have the money. Your saying that these people who just got their first vehicle and like to offroad, should just lie down and give up when compared to a Land Rover? I mean, don't get me wrong. I am a car fanatic i see both sides, Land Rovers are good for offroading. Provided you can afford one. But some people can only do what they can with a $500 jeep cherokee. Mostly, it comes down to the driver. The rest is up to how much money you want to sink into your vehicle.
halflife103 1 year ago
for one...put the jeep in 4 wheel...and 2...dont use the breaks at the crest of the hill...you must be tryin to sell that land rover because you can do a lot more mods to the jeep for far less money
SebastianLong 1 year ago 2
Isn't the grand cherokee or the commander a better competitor for the land rover?
Since they are in the same class?
DazzleMeezy 1 year ago
Shiiiittt............ My 1978 Dodge B200 van has done waaayyyy more extreme off`roading then that and never got stuck. I took it through almost 3 feet of mud and all it has is RWD and it did just fine
CLCCVIDEO 1 year ago
Who ever was driving the Disco is an idiot! Just stick it into 4L, lock the diffs and you'll get through that with no problems. You don't have a 4x4 unless you have diff locks. A pair of ARB lockers on that jeep and it will go anywhere, a $2,000 upgrade.
x0054 1 year ago 2
Who ever was driving the Disco is an idiot! Just stick it into 4L, lock the diffs and you'll get through that with no problems. You don't have a 4x4 unless you have diff locks. A pair of ARB lockers on that jeep and it will go anywhere, a $2,000 upgrade.
x0054 1 year ago
No center diff lock and the stock 18s at that.
NAEP3K2 1 year ago
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you are so dumb, your video is stupid and you don't know how to drive.
yardjackel 1 year ago
Is that Jeep RWD? Ha ha ha
slavik97 1 year ago
TC in a Rover is beast, Stock wranglers looks more like 2x4 STOCK vs STOCK rover always on top! LMFAO i don't want that jeep thing!
tankxE80 1 year ago
@tankxE80 JAJAJAAJAJAJA A jeep thing!! LMaooooo I know men, nothing like traction control plus centra diff lock!!! BEAST !!!!!.... This video i had my disco on hi gear and no cdl lock, so you can imagin the guy on the jeep JAJAAJAJJAJAAJAJAJJAJA
saturbo1107 1 year ago
stock on stock A $30,000 rig better kick a $16,000 rig jach ass
crazylife381 1 year ago
@crazylife381 $40 vs $16.....
saturbo1107 1 year ago
If the jeep would have disconnected his front sway bar. I bet he would have done it easy.
vince9902 1 year ago
@vince9902 Imagine if my sway bars were disconected on the rover..... ;p
saturbo1107 1 year ago
Did the jeep ever make it across?
alexlam24 1 year ago
@alexlam24 Nope, we come back 2 week after and try againg and nothing, then a week later he step on the gas and made, almost roll and end up with a front axle housing =x
saturbo1107 1 year ago
I want to see a Jeep Grand Cherokee AWD vs a Land Rover.
And don't tell me Jeeps only have 4X4, I had a uncle who brought a Cherokee new off the lot with AWD (all wheel drive). He traded it a few years later for a truck (for work purposes.)
justinlynch3 1 year ago
@justinlynch3 That will be interesting to see... I got a video in here with a 4x4 cherokee vs my disco and a range rover climing a litle hill.... funn to watch
saturbo1107 1 year ago
Did you you even have it in 4 wheel your a dush
sicwit2009 1 year ago
@sicwit2009 Jeep were on 4x4, the disco just AWD in hi gear
saturbo1107 1 year ago
@saturbo1107 Land Rover is Land Rover ...
marcojar93 1 year ago
today my dad was considerd crazy by 3 atv guys when he went up a rock coverd hill in his stock LR. a jeep saw it and turnd back after looking at it. rockes were sticking out there was like a 3-4 foot deep hole that you had to get in and out of at the beginning but over all the whole thing was rediculos. in my opinion jeeps are only good for off roading when you have invested thousands of dollars in upgrades to it.
nick27516 1 year ago
@nick27516 Yup !!! Land Rover RuleSS !!!!!
saturbo1107 1 year ago
@RovingLandRover
lmfao someone actually said that a sierra would beat those two offroad hahaha
wisam111 1 year ago
@wisam111 JAJAAJAJAJAJJAJAAJAJ
saturbo1107 1 year ago
I've off roaded with a discovery before. It got stuck four times. The only reason a Land Rover would out perform a Jeep is due to driver error.
grahamzandah 1 year ago
Haha, "Goes anywhere except past the gas station". So, true, but i love my disco, too!
tranceme24 1 year ago
Haha, "Goes anywhere except past the gas station". So, true, but i love disco, too!
tranceme24 1 year ago
it would outperform you guys!...
coltsrip 1 year ago
....my crv can drive over that lmao
WillDaBeast696969 1 year ago
there is NO reason why that jeep shouldn't be able to clear that obstacle. i wish i was there to show yall how its done in my 93 wrangler (lifted 33's locking hubs) lol and i wish i was there to show you how its done in my fathers 78 CJ7...bone stock.
lol anyway, glad to see yall are having fun. tread lightly my friends.
azminivanracer 1 year ago
the disco II will always be better then a jeep. Piece of shit. I own a 2004 disco and its never gotten stuck.
TheBulldozer32 1 year ago
siiicccckkkk
u guys are hectic,
maybe u might wanna try a stocko sierra,
it would eat that for breakfast
coltsrip 1 year ago
Don't the jeep driver know how to drive? a touch of brake pedal just at the right moment would have got him over that. Left foot braking is traction control for those that know how to drive 4x4's. Rev and spin the wheels is for people who dont know how to drive off road . Now go back to that spot and try it again, drive it properly and film him getting it right.
battenberg72 1 year ago
yup
mattfjeagle 1 year ago
Stock for stock Any land rover but the Freelander will best a Jeep off road. The stock Rubicon will give it some competition. I have owned a CJ-7 Cherokee and Grand Cherokee. The Land Rovers and much heavier duty. My CJ-7 was heavily modified and in that state it would beet my Land Rovers but stock there is no way any of the jeeps that I have owned would stand up to the abuse my rovers have. The parts that break are anoying, But they are never axles or major parts like my jeeps broke.
jerryq2 1 year ago
Disco didn't have big off-road tyres in fact it had road style tyres and it probably weighs alot more that the jeep. GO LANDROVER!!
TheCloudsThunder 1 year ago
wow thats gotta be fake my stock xj could do that without even spinning
StrainingDingelberry 1 year ago
thats just sad for the jeep, i could make it up that "hill" with a 50cc atv.
bayou250kid 1 year ago
as i seem to rember the landy replaced the jeep in ww2
landroverdisco100 1 year ago
hahahaha at the end it all comes to the driver skills......
cuz you buy a jeep, it doesent mean you know how to do things.. please for god sake some one show this fella how to use his jeep. the only land rover that keep up with a jeep wrangler is the defender we all know that for a fact¡¡¡
agasapio 1 year ago
hahahaha at the end it all comes to the driver skills......
cuz you buy a jeep, it doesent mean you know how to do things.. please for god sake some one show this fella how to use his jeep. the only land rover that keep up with a jeep wrangler is the defender we all know that for a fact¡¡¡
agasapio 1 year ago
the traction control help the land rover get over that.
tj with some skinny pedal would have done it. or limited slip in the rear would have made it
torchind 1 year ago
mine will eat the rover.
otis276 1 year ago
I love Land Rovers, but i own a jeep..in fact a 98 wrangler like the one shown-4cyl in fact! But looking at this video, i can tell you that i could prob get over that hump without too much of an issue. If that angle doesnt work, id take it head on, may even try 4low. taking it sideways didnt work, try a different approach. BTW, all my jeep has is 31s and a 2.5" rough country lift. im pretty sure id make it.
domeslacker 1 year ago
Not talking shit but what was the purpose of this? Maybe its because I have a 8in suspension lift on 37in tires, but I dont have much trouble with curbs. lol The Rover is very nice looking.
fourxxwhat 1 year ago
land-rover all the way
GloomyCry 1 year ago
Oh, how far discovery has come since then... they have left everyone behind.
wesleysuperman 1 year ago
this is not metallica
rupenatrynzky 1 year ago
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296jayce 1 year ago
@296jayce Yea in certain off road abilities yea the Rover wins, but the H1 has the power and the ruggedness that the rover can never have. Hide behind the Luxury all you like in the rover but in hands down ball busting work, ther rover just does not measure up. But they both have there strong points in abilities to do what they do best.
blackraven2488 1 year ago
@blackraven2488 o.k., ill give you an example, the land rover defender 130 and hummer h1, then what? (do you say)
296jayce 1 year ago
the only jeep id buy is a WJ (aka grand cherokee) with the 4.7 H.O., otherwise i would buy a land rover any day
g20s10silveradoman 1 year ago
Land rovers use a traction device that tells the brakes to grab when there's detected wheels spin basically rendering the driver a noob that hopes for the best, the guy in the jeep is also a noob that doesn't know how to left foot brake to lock his driveline. So this vid is dumb.
CanadaBud23 1 year ago
@CanadaBud23 Yea bad driver in the jeep. The rover also is filled with a bunch of computer shit that makes off roading to easy in a rover. Strip all that off and go, 4 wheel to 4wheel jeep will kick rovers ass.
blackraven2488 1 year ago
@blackraven2488 Doubt it chap..Strip off all the electronic stuff and you have the Discovery 1, which uses the series 1 Rangey set up and will eat any Jeep alive! Put a Series 1 88 inch Landy there and it will have been off road 10 minutes before either
craigybus1 1 year ago
@blackraven2488 wait....why would you take OFF all the stuff tha makes it better off road? all that "computer shit" as you say? In that case, put the 29 inch factory tires back on the wrangler to make it stock again.
domeslacker 1 year ago
ONLY LAND
mefistoromano 1 year ago
Im a jeep owner, but i still have to give respect to landrover. Landrover has been making 4x4 machines that have been to every corner of the earth, and with that comes the best 4x4 system. Have you ever seen those LR3's trechin throughthe amazon and stuff! thats intense drivin right there.
TheIdahogunman 1 year ago