Yes mister Andy Hear me i never play with Silvertones i first start with a oilcan milk can band with the Alleyn family who had the Barber shop on Coffee street right by All stars the name was Shell tones,after i went with Frank De Bomblay Sillouetts,i join Cavaliers in sixty eight sixty seven was great but seventy two would of been madness if the police did not make the people stampede through the band with their horses,as you know that was the end of Cavaliers.
Boygrant this is your family here,after you left Silver Tones you become the captain of the stage side of Cavaliers ,i just want you to know that you was the best six bass player in that time there was no one to compare with you until Collin Mujay come along he was your idol,big up to Zeph and all my Silver Tones friends,John Sheppard ,Ricky,Curly and Larry the Curtis brothers,Lerry,Chinky ,Dennis and all who i don`t forget,Little Cumbes ,Shirt jack,this is Stephen Oliver your Cavaliers brother
I cannot remember who u were in Silvertones. I played under Zeph with Mrs. Marjorie Wooding and Vic Lange as arrangers. Yes I agree with you, Boy Grant was the greatest six base player I ever came across and with tenors, Ricky and Larry. Shirt Jack was the first person I saw dancing and showing show much enjoyment behind his double seconds. I played tenor and double seconds, Andy, a country boy from Williamsville. To hear u call the names made my pores raise. Those were the days.
Thanks for posting this. This would trigger a lot of memories for any "South boy" born between '45 and '55 I would imagine. A lot of the steelband music from that far back has a thin sound (still sweet, but somehow thin). Cavaliers even then had a full sound, and would compare well with the more modern bands of today. Credit not only to the tuners, but also to Bobby Mohammed for his use of bass in establishing the melody (as one poster has mentioned).
When i listen to this tune i remember the various bands and their location wasa silvertones cooper street allstars coffee street fonclair madine street, tetec motown navet cavilers monrepos hatters broadway those was good times
Hey boygrant, stop calling those names like that, my pores are raising. I played in Silvertones the tangerine boys from south and when we got sponsership from WASA. Was also a stage side member under Vic Lange/ Jeph playing tenor. I played double seconds and tenor during my five years along with Joc {double tenors- Alivn Simeon} Shirt Jack {Double seconds {Peter Joachim]; Parson - Double 2nds, tenors, anything lol] Andy {school boy} One of the country boys from Williamsville. Wow!
If I remember correctly, I think the band started touring.
Unlike the bands of today, Renegades for instance, most bands back then did not have the structure in place to keep the band together when key members left to go on tours.
The best and strongest band members were the ones who went on these tours, leaving little behind to keep the band going.
And some members never came back.
This , I believe is the same thing that happened to the legendary Tripoli Steel Orchestra.
I was there in San Fernando to hear Guinness play Tzina, Tzina, Tzina live in 1967. The sweetest Pan I ever heard tuned by the great Alan
Gervais (Maestro). Even today, forty three years later, nobody can tuned a pan like him. Bobby, you were and still is my hero. Thanks for the great music! I will always remember Cavaliers as the best Panorama band ever.
To PanJazz. Everyone has their favourite and that you cannot deny. Probably you do not know about "Maestro" Alan Gervis. He was the Tuner of choice for many or most of the Bands from as early as the 60s' and also toured with Bands abroad. Tripoli was one such band. I remember many bands came to our Band "Texaco West Stars" in those days to inquire who was our tuner when they heard our Pans he tuned.Ask any of the old Pannist about the work of Alan and they would tell you that he was #1.
The sweetest pan you will ever hear,its so clean and clear you could actually sing the tune with the pan,thanks a million "JR" I am trying to find more of guiness cavaliers ,i am only finding three tunes,please post more if you have and also do you have the amral khan guiness cavaliers? thanks again man,you made my day
This rendition and arrangement has to be classed amongst the Best Panorama winning Tunes. It rocked T+T in 67 and now the World since its exposure on YouTube. The comments speak for themselves. Hope it will be played on the Road again.
These Cavaliers have profoundly affected our consciousness with their unique brand of Steelpan Sweetness....Forever they will live in our hearts....Thank you, grjoseph, for sharing!
I always thought something was wrong with me, now I know that im quite normal...In those days I to CRIED.. and even now these selections still arouse every sinew in my body.thanks again for the memories.. still looking for music from OLYMPIANS by the LEGEND himself
Just wanted SuperSnk1 to know that Bobby was indeed awarded the Humming Bird Gold Medal in 1992 for his immense contribution to the development of and his true commitment to our sweet art form.
I was in high school and wanted desperately to learn with Bobby and his band. My parents forbid me - nice young women couldn't play pan. I begged to go to relatives in POS that year for carnival and was on the drag. My 1st panorama. When Bobby hit that bell and the band exploded I watched Despers and Renegades panmen run back down the avenue hustling to see Guiness . I cried for the entire performance, couldn't speak afterwards. Thanks much. To this day its my most vivid carnival memory.
I endorse all the above comments... you see I was there when that REVOLUTION took place.. thank you.SIR Bobby Mohammed for giving us such remarkable sounds. Any downloads of OLYMPIANS doing JAWS or CARNIVAL OR RACES.
I was 11 years of age when Bobby won in 1967. They appeared on Harris promenade the next morning for the Bomb competition. They were playing Tzina Tzina. I remember pushing through the crowds which were shoving and screaming. I just had to touch one of those black pans. I eventually reached and touched a cello pan. With the power of Tzina ringing in my ears, I remember bursting into tears and bawling my head off. I had just experienced the essence of sweetness.
It's for people like you that I take the time and effort to post these video and audio clips The memories are just as important to me. Thank you for your comments..
I would love to hear the original panorama rendtion of Cavaliers "Ting Tang" and "My Brother Your Sister"--not the studio recording. Any idea where I might try? I just re listened to Deperadoes winning rendition of Melda from 1966. There is no way they won. There is absolutely no comparison to the Cavaliers performance that year. Thanks for putting these up.
@grjoseph Cavaliers come back! Listen to the weight of this band! Is this original or one recorded in the 70's/80's? It is hard to believe that a band could have been sounding so heavy and refined in 1967!
Actually, in retrospect we didn't do to badly that year. We had broken off from Southern Marines which was a southern power in those days. We had a young Birch Kellman and Karloff Alleyne as our tuners, and Michael Alleyne was a promising young arranger(He's since passed away).
We had a nice little band (which unfortunately did not survive)and we made it to the semi finals.
I remember seeing grown men weep when we were knocked out in the semis.
Thanks to you guys grjoseph and Ex1le11 for your comments on Bobby and his Great Band Guinness Cavaliers. I do not know if he has already been awarded a Medal that they give each year at Independence,if not then it is long overdue. He deserves a very high Award.
Were you there to see the fence on both sides of the Drag come tumbling down the minute those Black Pans with the Golden Harps started playing and Bobby had all those thousands of supporters spellbound with the rythmn from his Iron Bell ? That was power from Tenor to Bass. That was real Pan. Cavaliers gave us Music never heard before from the SteelBands. Bobby you are a Genius. Thanks and more Thanks for all those lovely tunes
I remember clearly that day on the drag. There was an air of excitement as people waited for Guiness to begin. It was a very large band and those black pans (actually I think it was a very dark green) looked like power.
When Bobby banged on bell and they began the dramatic intro to Sixty Seven people were scampering from all over the savannah to get closer; even members of other bands.
I was one of them. my band was Scarlet Symphony from Marabella.
Yes mister Andy Hear me i never play with Silvertones i first start with a oilcan milk can band with the Alleyn family who had the Barber shop on Coffee street right by All stars the name was Shell tones,after i went with Frank De Bomblay Sillouetts,i join Cavaliers in sixty eight sixty seven was great but seventy two would of been madness if the police did not make the people stampede through the band with their horses,as you know that was the end of Cavaliers.
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TheHeadcoolin 4 days ago
Boygrant this is your family here,after you left Silver Tones you become the captain of the stage side of Cavaliers ,i just want you to know that you was the best six bass player in that time there was no one to compare with you until Collin Mujay come along he was your idol,big up to Zeph and all my Silver Tones friends,John Sheppard ,Ricky,Curly and Larry the Curtis brothers,Lerry,Chinky ,Dennis and all who i don`t forget,Little Cumbes ,Shirt jack,this is Stephen Oliver your Cavaliers brother
TheHeadcoolin 6 months ago
I cannot remember who u were in Silvertones. I played under Zeph with Mrs. Marjorie Wooding and Vic Lange as arrangers. Yes I agree with you, Boy Grant was the greatest six base player I ever came across and with tenors, Ricky and Larry. Shirt Jack was the first person I saw dancing and showing show much enjoyment behind his double seconds. I played tenor and double seconds, Andy, a country boy from Williamsville. To hear u call the names made my pores raise. Those were the days.
utubeynot 6 days ago
Thanks for posting this. This would trigger a lot of memories for any "South boy" born between '45 and '55 I would imagine. A lot of the steelband music from that far back has a thin sound (still sweet, but somehow thin). Cavaliers even then had a full sound, and would compare well with the more modern bands of today. Credit not only to the tuners, but also to Bobby Mohammed for his use of bass in establishing the melody (as one poster has mentioned).
Anything from Southern Marines?
sftyou 1 year ago
When i listen to this tune i remember the various bands and their location wasa silvertones cooper street allstars coffee street fonclair madine street, tetec motown navet cavilers monrepos hatters broadway those was good times
boygrant1 1 year ago
Hey boygrant, stop calling those names like that, my pores are raising. I played in Silvertones the tangerine boys from south and when we got sponsership from WASA. Was also a stage side member under Vic Lange/ Jeph playing tenor. I played double seconds and tenor during my five years along with Joc {double tenors- Alivn Simeon} Shirt Jack {Double seconds {Peter Joachim]; Parson - Double 2nds, tenors, anything lol] Andy {school boy} One of the country boys from Williamsville. Wow!
utubeynot 6 days ago
What ever happened to this band. Why did they break up?
PanJazz 2 years ago
If I remember correctly, I think the band started touring.
Unlike the bands of today, Renegades for instance, most bands back then did not have the structure in place to keep the band together when key members left to go on tours.
The best and strongest band members were the ones who went on these tours, leaving little behind to keep the band going.
And some members never came back.
This , I believe is the same thing that happened to the legendary Tripoli Steel Orchestra.
grjoseph 2 years ago
I was there in San Fernando to hear Guinness play Tzina, Tzina, Tzina live in 1967. The sweetest Pan I ever heard tuned by the great Alan
Gervais (Maestro). Even today, forty three years later, nobody can tuned a pan like him. Bobby, you were and still is my hero. Thanks for the great music! I will always remember Cavaliers as the best Panorama band ever.
kellyali2003 2 years ago
@kellyali2003
up to today nobody could tune a pan like who? man allyuh could chat some shit sometimes yes....
PanJazz 2 years ago
Panjazz, Who do believe is the best Pan tuner ever? Would like to hear your choice.
kellyali2003 2 years ago
To PanJazz. Everyone has their favourite and that you cannot deny. Probably you do not know about "Maestro" Alan Gervis. He was the Tuner of choice for many or most of the Bands from as early as the 60s' and also toured with Bands abroad. Tripoli was one such band. I remember many bands came to our Band "Texaco West Stars" in those days to inquire who was our tuner when they heard our Pans he tuned.Ask any of the old Pannist about the work of Alan and they would tell you that he was #1.
SuperSnk1 2 years ago
The sweetest pan you will ever hear,its so clean and clear you could actually sing the tune with the pan,thanks a million "JR" I am trying to find more of guiness cavaliers ,i am only finding three tunes,please post more if you have and also do you have the amral khan guiness cavaliers? thanks again man,you made my day
inshah 2 years ago
Pan from down in the hole. Bobby and Guiness were one and the same. Simply genius!
thekevahart 2 years ago
This rendition and arrangement has to be classed amongst the Best Panorama winning Tunes. It rocked T+T in 67 and now the World since its exposure on YouTube. The comments speak for themselves. Hope it will be played on the Road again.
SuperSnk1 2 years ago
These Cavaliers have profoundly affected our consciousness with their unique brand of Steelpan Sweetness....Forever they will live in our hearts....Thank you, grjoseph, for sharing!
das2761 2 years ago
I always thought something was wrong with me, now I know that im quite normal...In those days I to CRIED.. and even now these selections still arouse every sinew in my body.thanks again for the memories.. still looking for music from OLYMPIANS by the LEGEND himself
Panchori1 2 years ago
Just wanted SuperSnk1 to know that Bobby was indeed awarded the Humming Bird Gold Medal in 1992 for his immense contribution to the development of and his true commitment to our sweet art form.
kjtreds 2 years ago
I was in high school and wanted desperately to learn with Bobby and his band. My parents forbid me - nice young women couldn't play pan. I begged to go to relatives in POS that year for carnival and was on the drag. My 1st panorama. When Bobby hit that bell and the band exploded I watched Despers and Renegades panmen run back down the avenue hustling to see Guiness . I cried for the entire performance, couldn't speak afterwards. Thanks much. To this day its my most vivid carnival memory.
kjtreds 2 years ago
I endorse all the above comments... you see I was there when that REVOLUTION took place.. thank you.SIR Bobby Mohammed for giving us such remarkable sounds. Any downloads of OLYMPIANS doing JAWS or CARNIVAL OR RACES.
Panchori1 2 years ago
I was 11 years of age when Bobby won in 1967. They appeared on Harris promenade the next morning for the Bomb competition. They were playing Tzina Tzina. I remember pushing through the crowds which were shoving and screaming. I just had to touch one of those black pans. I eventually reached and touched a cello pan. With the power of Tzina ringing in my ears, I remember bursting into tears and bawling my head off. I had just experienced the essence of sweetness.
Dr. Lennox K. Archibald
larchibald 2 years ago
It's for people like you that I take the time and effort to post these video and audio clips The memories are just as important to me. Thank you for your comments..
grjoseph 2 years ago
Mr. Joseph:
I would love to hear the original panorama rendtion of Cavaliers "Ting Tang" and "My Brother Your Sister"--not the studio recording. Any idea where I might try? I just re listened to Deperadoes winning rendition of Melda from 1966. There is no way they won. There is absolutely no comparison to the Cavaliers performance that year. Thanks for putting these up.
larchibald 2 years ago
@grjoseph Cavaliers come back! Listen to the weight of this band! Is this original or one recorded in the 70's/80's? It is hard to believe that a band could have been sounding so heavy and refined in 1967!
sbhawanie69 1 month ago
Actually, in retrospect we didn't do to badly that year. We had broken off from Southern Marines which was a southern power in those days. We had a young Birch Kellman and Karloff Alleyne as our tuners, and Michael Alleyne was a promising young arranger(He's since passed away).
We had a nice little band (which unfortunately did not survive)and we made it to the semi finals.
I remember seeing grown men weep when we were knocked out in the semis.
grjoseph 2 years ago
Thanks to you guys grjoseph and Ex1le11 for your comments on Bobby and his Great Band Guinness Cavaliers. I do not know if he has already been awarded a Medal that they give each year at Independence,if not then it is long overdue. He deserves a very high Award.
SuperSnk1 2 years ago
Were you there to see the fence on both sides of the Drag come tumbling down the minute those Black Pans with the Golden Harps started playing and Bobby had all those thousands of supporters spellbound with the rythmn from his Iron Bell ? That was power from Tenor to Bass. That was real Pan. Cavaliers gave us Music never heard before from the SteelBands. Bobby you are a Genius. Thanks and more Thanks for all those lovely tunes
SuperSnk1 2 years ago
I remember clearly that day on the drag. There was an air of excitement as people waited for Guiness to begin. It was a very large band and those black pans (actually I think it was a very dark green) looked like power.
When Bobby banged on bell and they began the dramatic intro to Sixty Seven people were scampering from all over the savannah to get closer; even members of other bands.
I was one of them. my band was Scarlet Symphony from Marabella.
grjoseph 2 years ago
"As ah reach de corner,
Ah bounce up Invader,
Playin' Sixty Seven
Music in yuh pweffen"........ Kitch
Ahh, the memories!
grjoseph 2 years ago
simply amazing arrangement
trinidesi 2 years ago
Bobby was a power arranger. He revolutionized the bass in pan arrangements. Before him, the bass was primarily a rythym instrument.
He started using the bass to carry the tune, which gave Cavaliers that powerful, dramatic sound. (Plus Guiness Cavaliers was a pretty large band.)
grjoseph 2 years ago