fuck that bitch for saying the guy should ALWAYS pay. a guy should pay of he asked her out, and a girl should pay if she asked him out. common courtesy goes both ways
ppl calm down man stoop hating on her. bcuz she really does make a good point. all yals out there that are hating on her are probably the type of guy that are so cheap dat yal cant even pay for a meal! i dont knoe y u guys are saying shet bout her i just wannr stick up for wats rite and at da moment i believe dat she is RIGHT and yals are just da CHEAP types dat are just being haters. i dont give a shet if u go ganging uhp on meh afda i post uhp dis coomment bcuz i knoe dat im rite for doing dis
Lol! This is ridiculas! Outragous! Are you kidding me?!
Women! You wanted equal rights. You wanted equality. Now you will pay HALF of the check. Or pay for what you ordered. Feminism killed chivelry. You can;t have it both ways.
Guys. Here is a tip. If she answers her cell phone even once during the date (and it's not related to work) or texts - you stand up and say "excuse me I have to go the restroom" and you WALK OUT. You get in your car and you leave. 8)
Whoever asks the other out should pay. And as much as I'd like the guy to pay, I don't think that guys have to spend a fortune on you for a date. How about a coffee instead? It doesn't have to be a $30 meal, it can just be a nice simple coffee for $4! How hard is that? And if he's too cheap to pay $4, you don't want him anyway!
he should pay, full stop! Its not about the money its about common respect for the definition of roles. If I was going out with a male friend, then I would always offer to pay halves, but if Im interested in a guy, and we're on a date and he doesnt pay, its a bad sign... He just doesnt care enough to at least pretend hes not cheap, for the sake of the first date protocol!? It would put me off!
PART TWO.. And countless activities that you can do for free. That way you get to spend some time getting a feel for that person, and should you want to go for a drink or meal after that, it will give you enough time to establish who will pay for what, should you choose to discuss it. No awkward moments need come into play that way.
Too many rules = too many complications. Isn't life complicated enough?
PART ONE.... I'm seriously finding it difficult to understand northern American attitudes towards dating. You make it sound like such hard work, when theirs no need. This big pressure to get the first day right, is mind blowing to me. Who picks up the cheque? What does it mean if he doesn't pick up the cheque? Blah blah blah, talk about making life more difficult than it should be.
Easy solution, go to places that are free! A walk in the park, costs nothing. A trip to a museum costs nothing!
First of all, the first date shouldn't even be somewhere expensive. It should be at a coffee place or whatever. But people want glamor and extravagance on the first date. If it was a date at a coffee shop, we wouldn't even be having this discussion of who picks up when. I'm telling you, dinner dates are way too much pressure for the first date.
that woman speaks alot of crap she says if he doesnt pick it up he doesnt want to get to know u at all he could jus be broke or thinks tht u shud pick up the check as ur the one tht chose the most exspensive shit on the menu but other than tht he shud pick it up
yesterday i had a date with a blonde girl and ofcourse i payed, then we went to another cafe and i realised that she wasn´t that kinda girl i was looking for, and then she wanted to pay at the end, i acted like i dont want that, but, why not :D
Lets face it from a mans point of view Dinner out is a shared experience. It is a time to get to know someone. Somtimes you already know the girl and this is a chance to do somthing nice for her. In the case that this is a first date and meeting it should be split. and if she isnt down with that or never talks to you again as a result then she has a seriouse hooker mentality. If "ladies" want respect then you dont want to be called a hooker so stop having men pay for your time!
agreed. the woman should atleast offer to pay half. but then a gentlemen would insists to pay anyway. I don't think a guy would sit there and wait for the girl to pay, that's a bitch move. So is pretending to go to the bathroom when the check comes. That's also a bitch move and obvious.
LOL first date in a restaurant? You're asking for it fellas.
This is why you should find women with shared interests, rather than ones who just want to sit on their arse looking pretty, expecting to be showered with praise and gifts like a poodle.
Does any guy here actually want to end up with someone like the '100 dates' woman? I find her attitude repugnant and seriously outdated.
Whoever asked the other person out on the date should pay. The asker acts as the host and the accepter acts as the guest. Don't matter if you're a man or woman.
Fuck that shit Im not paying at all. I might as well get a hooker if that is the case. She has been on 101 dates still single and 40 something not good. That gentleman paying dinner on first dates is played out. That makes a guy a real simp
HE SHOULD PAY he asked didn't he? So yeah and i totaly agree with the guest but only one thing i would leave the restaurant and leave him there and then he would have no other choice than to pay lol
after that I'll date her mom and make her pay the bill and suck my dick trust me don't take them to dinner take them to the pool park or a club without your wallet
Men, you don't have to subsidize women in order to get laid. If she's into you she'll ride you like a pony regardless.
Be progressive. Be the man of the future. Not the kind who takes barbaric advice from your mother or old hags like these. Understand that women are relentless when it comes to obtaining the greatest amount of compensation as possible for simply having been born with a vagina.
Focus on your health. Focus on your wealth. The rest falls in place. Stop wasting money on girls!
Lol! This is ridiculas! Outragous! Are you kidding me?!
Women! You wanted equal rights. You wanted equality. Now you will pay HALF of the check. Or pay for what you ordered. Feminism killed chivelry. You can;t have it both ways.
Guys. Here is a tip. If she answers her cell phone even once during the date (and it's not related to work) or texts - you stand up and say "excuse me I have to go the restroom" and you WALK OUT. You get in your car and you leave. 8)
I went out for dinner with a guy when he asked me, the bill was less than $15 for both of us and he still made me pay! I even spent a few minutes in the bathroom. I turned him down for a second date multiple times... I should send him this video.
There used to be such thing as a Gentleman. I believe that thing has either been forgotten or bastardized. Of course the man pays on the first date. It relates that he fulfills his primordial duty.
Well lets not make too many blanketed statements here. I mean the bastardization I speak of has lead us to such generalities. Yes there were "gentlemen" that would beat their wives with belts. There were also real gentlemen that loved their women without violence. My grandfather is proof lol.
The one who asks the other part out pays. If the girl asks for a date, she pays. Thets the "guidelines" of dating. But i wouldn't be able to let her. Stupid macho thoughts that just gets twisted in todays society. But a 50/50 split is also fine, if both parts insist on paying.
50% and 50%!!!! That's called FAIR!!!! If a girl pay 50% in the first date she's giving me a signal that this is not going to be a one sided relationship.
Sarah invites Bob to this fancy restaurant. Bob is a poor guy. Sarah likes spending money. Bob eats the cheapest shit in the menu. Sarah eats like a cow. Then comes wine, desert and shit. What should Bob do ?
If it is a date, the man should always pay! What kind of question is that! If a man doesn't pay...that's the last date. If he doesn't want to pay...make him. If he can't, pay the check, tell him you're gone, and leave him where he sits. No question! Guys, not paying is soooo unsexy!
I think it really depends on the financial situation of both parties.. if you are both broke students or whatever, it just makes sense to split it. Just because he can't afford the whole bill doesn't mean he isn't worthy of your time.
This is completely wrong if a women won't see a guy ever again just because they won't pay the bill it shows how shallow they are and there just ruining it 4 themselves. There are plenty of decent guys out there, dont judge them on whether thy pay the fricken bill or not! Definately wouldn't call this Victorya women any kind of relationship expert!
@Spike12341234 Well go figure. It came out of the mouth of the lady who's dated 101 men in a year. Of course she is shallow. She just wants to lead men on to make herself feel good, and she got 101 free fucking meals. Pathetic and sends women 100 years back.
I think you are entirely wrong. I think the first date should always be GO DUTCH. It is a first date and why women always think the man should pay is beyond me. I always go dutch on the first date. By the way I am a women.
ok its not old fashend or any thing its just maners and yeh maby the secand date she might pay or even split the check but first date is a must ! am lee am 14 and love ur videos
I had a woman I had just met tell me that she wanted to "take me out for my birthday". So naturally I said yes. I ended up having to pay the check after seeing that she was going to make no effort at all. I later found out that she was appalled I didn't make a hasty effort to pay the tab. Needless to say, I haven't been hanging with her. But geez, if someone offers to take ME out, I didn't think I'd pay the tab. Any thoughts?
@sometimesvideofun I find this funny about women and money: After u spend $40-$60 a date for them and after a while, you'll move in together, she'll get mad at u for not having a lot of money. I just hope they realize that by putting videos like on youtube,is partially hurting the girls whom they're trying to protect financially. So I agree with u, she should have to cough up the money at least once! Is that too much to ask for u women out there?!!
Pay for the first date my ass. Sorry girlies but the gravy train ends here, if on a first date YOU don't at the very least OFFER to pay your own way it is ME that is not going to see YOU ever again. Your potential pussy is NOT worth my pride and dignity. The 20s are over, she makes her own money (far easier than I do) and she can pay for her own meal. Men, get the idea out of your head that her pussy is worth more than your penis, she won't respect you...she doesn't get to see you. Simple.
If you haven't listened to MrHolipsism's video response to this video - we think he makes some really great points so give it a listen and let us know what you think about what he has to say...
be realistic guys,if u dont pay the bill she will dump your ass,its very very very rare that you will find a chick who will even be willing to chip in some %%% if your lucky, i know its bullshit but it is what it is..
Ya and women know their way is to be barefoot and have their butt in the kitchen, or how it used to be. If change is occuring there, it can too in other aspects.
I think it is rediculous to say that HE MUST PAY! I think it is an antiquated double standard. That being said, I do reccomend that guys pay(at least for the first one). It does seem to be an impressive gesture. ; )
im not even going on a date with this girl "just hanging out" (i don't want to push things or ruin it) but i even see my self paying for the movie. i want her to feel that she doens't have to be loaded to spend time with me. but i really like her so it's fine with me. if i ever get to go out with her i guarantee that i will be the happiest guy in the world because i like everything about her:)
The whole concept of men shelling out for dates came about during a time when most women did not work outside the home and were dependent on others for money. Times have changed, be civilized and go dutch. This is the 21st century, why are we still so adamant about old fashioned mores and gender roles? Everything that woman says is a two way street, i.e, one could say "If she refuses to pick up the check then she's not interested in getting to know you." Her response was very obtuse.
I don't think the issue is as simple as this video makes out. Whilst it might be chivalrous to pay for your date's drinks or meal, it depends entirely on the individual with whom you share company.
This is largely a question of tact. If you automatically pick up the tab you are insisting, possibly offending, and not communicating with your date. Whereas if you merely offer to pay for the tab, she may either insist she pays her own, or she may graciously accept the kind gesture. Big difference.
She is a Old ass whore, ... Nah im just jokeing, but serriously, some guys can be low on cash, espessialy if he is a student, i dont think she shuld just dump his ass on the spot, give him some chances to show his worth, like, if he likes you, he will wait for sex for a long time, and eaven if he dosnt it migth even be your ''fault'' maby he thinks you are needy and booring
One question for the guys: how do you want to be remembered?
Personally, I would just ask if we're going to go and if doesn't pick up the check, I'm doing it. I'll pay for the both of us and just say "thank you for that wonderful conversation." and leave. If he calls, I'll just say that I'm too busy or whatever.
being a guy for the 1st date i wouldn't even get in the situation of going to a restaurant. insted go bowling, walk in the town, chek out places in the mall etc. this is a great way of getting to know the other person for their personality and likes/dislikes rather than the size of ur wallet
That tradition is slowly dying because of mother fuckers like you who are panty ass snot noses that are still sucking your mothers tit and probably still living at home. I think YOU need to suck a bulls dick or you're probably fucking sheep.
Fuck you Kiss Miss Serbia's ass!! As being 52, I've run into alot of assholes like you and married one. That's why I can comment on the subject. I came from a different generation than what it is today. Things have greatly changed since high school, etc. Men opened doors for you,pulled out your chair,ordered for you at restaurants etc.
As being a woman,never offer to pay the check. If the man doesn't have enough class or sense to pay for it, you don't need him. Been there, done that! In fact, I payed for almost the whole week end and this guy made 6 figures a year. If they're going to be "tight" on small things, he is a domineering,overbearing,male chauvinistic bastard.
Fuck you, you sexist cunt! This is probably why you've never been happy in your lousy little life, and talking bullshit like this at 52 makes a lot of sense why you're a sexist gold-digger bastard!
Honesty and the ability to be able to talk about everything is two things that for me will simplify this;
When the check is on the table, ask.
"Do you want to split it, or can i be the gentleman and take care of it?". I know women that doesn't like that men pay for them. They want to feel independent and not owe anyone anything.
But personally, i would prefer dealing with the check and try to sense if this makes her unconfortable or not.
I think on the first date it would be a classy move for the guy to pay. All the time I see many guys letting the women buy them everything. Especially during christmas time. I don't care who you are, spending to much money on someone show lack of confidence. If you want you pay first and she can take you out next time. Or even make bets while playing pool, it's fun cocky and confident. Whatever you do just have fun. Like my ex says "Money is only paper". Smartest statement I ever heard.
I think on the first date it would be cliche for the guy to pay.
I don't understand stereotypes. Why? Why do we let these things happen?
This isn't fair. Wouldn't a man appreciate a woman paying just as a woman appreciates a man paying? There should not be an unwritten rule for this to occur.
That woman talking in the video really comes off sounding like an asshole to me - denying a second date if the man refuses to pay. I'd go out with her and deny her a second date because SHE refuses
What a bunch of bullshit. "Leave for 5 minutes" ??? Offer to help pay, and MEAN it. Then, I'll have no issue paying the whole thing. Then, whatever you do after dinner, drinks, coffee, movies, etc, the girl INSISTS on paying and I'll let her. THATS how it should be.
I'm entirely with Rugsrat on this. Whoever asked the other one out should pick up the check.
If the other person is uncomfortable allowing themselves to be "paid for," they can make it up later on, either by paying next time or by springing for the drinks afterwards or the cab or whatever else comes up in the future.
To finish off. The classy thing for the woman to do is 1) Don't offer to pay half in a manner that so obviously is fake. 2) If you do offer to pay half...make it like it isn't a big deal and pretend if necessary that you believe in real equality. 3) Best of all is to offer to pay on the next date..and plan the date.
Anyone can control the price of the date if they are the one that plans it to some extent. Coffee dates are cheap and no one should argue over the bill.
"Split the check on the first date so he won't expect sex for paying the bill. Do men feel emasculated if we insist on splitting it?"
I would generally expect and want to pay on a first date, well if I asked her out. I'm an old style knight.
The comment echoed what how I was insulted on a few dates. You are treating us like petty pervs by awkwardly insisting on splitting. I ask you on a 2nd date after you treat me like a rapist. It shows insecurity and paranoia.
In that case, guys should ask girl where she wants to go on the first date. if she pick some expencive place, don't go. not on to second date, not on the first date, not ever... long live materialism!!! where did you finding this "experts"!?
This is outdated advice. Go dutch on the first date. It says a)you're my equal and b)i'm not expecting anything out of you tonight. When you foot the bill, you're setting yourself up to look like a desperate chump.
Bullshit! These is for weak men who think the girl is the prize. No woman should ever EXPECT a man to pay for the check. It is the man's choice to pay for her portion of the date. This crap about pay for it or never see me again, only send the message that she is a freeloader and cannot take care of herself. If the man does pay, then woman should at least do the decent thing and pay for the next date, providing the man "earned it".
it depends is she slutty and going to put out? then pay. but if its a blind date and she turns out to be a fat chick; just say u have to go for a smoke and just leave her there.. that will teach her to be fat.. btw iv done this before. my buddy hooked me up with a chick and he was like shes really nice; but he didnt mention she was really big.. like really really big. like 350 lbs big.. i tried to enkoy my steak but just looking at her and thought of kissing her good night mae me wanna puke, lol
It sad. And they say women aren't manipulative. What's wrong with just being a buddy? Why just the man needs to show interest? And why is suddenly interest rewarded with cash? Degrading. Step up to the plate women or stop complaining to be treated differently. If you want to be equal, act equal.
You could flip this the other way and say "Well, maybe the girl just doesn't care about you enough to pay. Maybe you should never see her again." This is sick.
Agreed. Very bad video. Some women want the equal treatment in society but want the old special treatment in more intimate situations. The two don't mix, and those who ask for it are holding back women everywhere socially.
Why do guys have to pay? I pay for mine, you pay for yours. No one complains. Why would you try to coerce someone to pay for you? That's wrong. What a selfish, stereotypical feminist idiot. (I'm female.)
@ProjektRaRa feminism is the exact opposite of what this lady advocated. Feminism = equality of the sexes. This woman is stuck in patriarchal traditions.
hmm.....97percent of all my dates. The girl/woman has Always refused to let me pay for it.Whatever it is or wherever we were on the date. And on the second date~ still the same. So I think this video clip is wrong. Because in my experiences ~women never ever let me pay.And they get upset when I make motion or even TRY to pay. Honest!
I'm not saying I wouldn't pay, but coming out and saying a guy isn't worth it if he doesn't pay makes me balk. What's that say about your personality if you're deciding a guy's worth right on the first date.
If a women isn't hired because she won't put out, that's sexist. So if a guy isn't getting a second date because he doesn't fork over, that's what?
Yes, chivalry and all that. I don't mind holding doors open or walking a women to their house even if it's farther, but to actually come out and demand money for your time (free dinner's aren't free) seems sexist towards men.
i would feel more comfortable SPLITTING THE CHECK EQUALLY...when the guy pays, it feels like i owe him something.... i believe a lot of men believe they r entiltled to sexual advances because you have allowed them to
'take care' of you (a green signal?).both should pay equally....kinda SYMBOLIC of an equal relationship...and it will also take the focus away from 'materialistic persuasion'...to really the people you are and how you tick. i dont agree w/ guy paying everytime - at all!
True that, women expect way too much from men. They want the man to make advances on her, paying her checks and expenses, to be always the stronger and brave one etc. It leaves a heavy responsibility on the man. If she doesn't want to pay, doesn't that give her a cheap image also? Why is the man only expect to make money? It's not the old times no more. So I say, equality in everything and little less expectation from each other.
I don't think the guy should always have to pay. I think the one who asked for the date should pay or at least you split the check or take turns. If a guy isn't worth it just because he wouldn't pay, Why doesn't the same thing go with females? And why do you have to play games just over a check? I don't see why someone couldn't just come out and say "So, who should pay?" It's called communication. I always be sure I'm not freeloading and that the man I'm dating isn't a freeloader.
In my humble opinion, the man should always pay. I realize this is an outmoded thought process but it is the Gentlemanly thing to do, respect the woman your out with, paying for dinner or whatever activity your doing is one of the many things a man should do on a date.
Split the check on the first date so he won't expect sex for paying the bill. Do men feel emasculated if we insist on splitting it? It turns me off when he expects me to pay the bill without discussing it before ordering. I prefer to discuss this topic before ordering, or when scheduling the date to prevent awkwardness when the check arrives. I woundn't date a guy a 2nd time if stuck me with the bill, and would warn mygirlfriends about the cheapskate as well.
i don't know...i think we've evolved culturally past the point of the man being the provider. i think on dates people should go dutch. (split the cheque) although it would be a sweet gesture for the guy to pay.
I agree that it is a cultural issue.Any Hispanic man that doesn't pay for the women that he wants to take out is considered to be a loser,not a man sufficient enough to be able to provide.A suggestion that may be palatable First date: somewhere nice and quiet and romantic for a good first impression,man pays.Second date:to the park, you prepare a picnic & fly a kite,hike etc.You wouldn't believe how romantic it is that a guy interested in you wants to be around you.Just to have fun & spend time.
First of all, the lady has been on 100 first dates. According to her she has been invited for second dates as well by most of them.
It shouldn't be such an issue anymore. In the old days women looked after the children and did not earn money. There was a necesity for the man to pay.
Nowadays women are earning their part and fighting for equal rights, what about equal duties ladies?
As I do not try to understand women, but just love them, I usually pay : - )
For the lady that has spent 1.5 year on going on first dates.
Did she go out on the first dates to have material for her book, all sponsored by men who were serious about the date?
So who is judging who about being serious or not ?
A tip for dates: if you like each other, it goes natural anyway and it does not matter if you are at a hamburger stand or a fancy restaurant. No need for forced jokes, compliments or whatever, they sound better when you DO mean them anyway.
You cant make the girl share the check, but if she does it spontaneously it s a major plus. Sharing the check on the first date is proof that you are independant and a thoughtful, respectful person. Thats a fair and balanced start for a relationship. I think women share the check because that way they dont feel obliged in any way towards the other person. Opposite what the woman says here... by the way i m 27, she s probably 47, so it s a different generation talking ;o)
I mean you have to pay on the first date but, don't let it get out of hand. Sometimes the girl can be using you for money. Witch has happened to me. But ask her out occasionally and not too often. Because then she will start to get power over your green.
so, obviously in here all of you thing a man to keep is the one who pays.Well how about pay half half?? I ve been with hundreds of women and if you pay on the first date 90% of them will think 'your the banker'. Money is money ladies, we all have to work for it in the same way,than we should do all the same
I see a lot of guys commenting with the reverse psychology thing...please stop! If you're a cheap ass, don't invite a girl on a date. No one likes a cheap ass ok. It tells a lot about who you are, trust me!
He should pay. It's not about him paying because he's the guy and he should pay, but it's about his character. This sort of situation gives you a great deal of insight as to his general character and what type of man he will be in a relationship! No ifs ands or butts about it! If he is the one who asked you, then he should definitely pay! Think about this for a second. He is asking YOU! You don't have to go with him. There are fifty million other things that you could be doing with your time!
i always pay for the girl when i go on dates. its just a moral thing for me lol. and i enjoy paying for them. if they don't let me and pay for themselves or somethin then i feel like a free loader or somethin. its weird as hell but ya.
Good for you. Your nothing but her banker. Think of it in retrospect, you just called every woman a freeloader, ridiculous. I can understand the guy paying on the first date (I usually do low commitment/test dates such as coffee etc) If the girl insists on my paying the second/third time i.e doesn't strongly offer/insist on paying, that's a sign of immature thinking to me. The relationship ends there and she needs to understand the difference between a reciprocal relationship and a sugar daddy.
@Kayshaneil Of course he is asking you. Because most women still don't have the courage to ask guys out. So guys have to do the work and ask the girl out. However, what does that say about HER character if she doesn't want to split the bill? Are you just in it for the money? You wanted a free meal? Why not split the bill?
The whole thing about "you don't have to go with him" is correct. But if you did, then you should be courteous and pay half. Otherwise, you're just trying to get a free meal.
@insaniac82 just bcuz we make boyz pay doesnt mean we are trying to get a free meal. we can pay half bhut we choose not too bcuz us girls want to c wat type of guy are we actually dating. bcuz if a guy asks us to split da bill in half den he is being too cheap! its just a date how expensive can i b? is it realy dat too much to pay for one date? yes some girls pay bhut its only wen we offer not wen we get told to or evn aasked to pay half. we dont force boyz to pay for ery single fing!!!!!!!!!!!
If a guy won't pay that means he's cheap and broke
angiet937 7 months ago
@angiet937 True
human2011able 6 months ago
fuck that bitch for saying the guy should ALWAYS pay. a guy should pay of he asked her out, and a girl should pay if she asked him out. common courtesy goes both ways
bapestaicecream 7 months ago 4
Guy should pay.. and buy me a dress to wear on the next date.
GeekSuga 8 months ago
@GeekSuga Yes! You are so true
human2011able 6 months ago
guys who cant even pay for one meal then they are nothing but CHEAPS!! gurls heres a tip: never go out wif a guy like dat EVER
mehhornybitch 9 months ago
ppl calm down man stoop hating on her. bcuz she really does make a good point. all yals out there that are hating on her are probably the type of guy that are so cheap dat yal cant even pay for a meal! i dont knoe y u guys are saying shet bout her i just wannr stick up for wats rite and at da moment i believe dat she is RIGHT and yals are just da CHEAP types dat are just being haters. i dont give a shet if u go ganging uhp on meh afda i post uhp dis coomment bcuz i knoe dat im rite for doing dis
mehhornybitch 9 months ago
being a guy, i would NEVER go out with a parasite. DO NOT PAY guys, or you will be a pussy forever after.
sanjeevgopal 1 year ago
That woman is a shallow bitch that doesn't know what she's talking about!
danbarn72 1 year ago
10 bucks says she's single
flybeetle27 9 months ago
It is sad that an evil concept like money effects so many imortant factors in relationships
NihilisticD 1 year ago
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Lol! This is ridiculas! Outragous! Are you kidding me?!
Women! You wanted equal rights. You wanted equality. Now you will pay HALF of the check. Or pay for what you ordered. Feminism killed chivelry. You can;t have it both ways.
Guys. Here is a tip. If she answers her cell phone even once during the date (and it's not related to work) or texts - you stand up and say "excuse me I have to go the restroom" and you WALK OUT. You get in your car and you leave. 8)
We are NOT paying!
TutorialsForYou19 1 year ago
Whoever asks the other out should pay. And as much as I'd like the guy to pay, I don't think that guys have to spend a fortune on you for a date. How about a coffee instead? It doesn't have to be a $30 meal, it can just be a nice simple coffee for $4! How hard is that? And if he's too cheap to pay $4, you don't want him anyway!
nupei 1 year ago 4
I think whomever isn't me should pick up the check
yubarraboo 1 year ago 3
I think the man should pay
SpecialsNo3 1 year ago 3
Men should definately pay. If they don't, how do you know they are going to pay for the bigger things later in life?
18anduphereicome 1 year ago 3
yes he should pay, it's an investment in his future!
Agnesk626 1 year ago
normally id say no, cuz of equality man!
but after hearing the how symbolic thing, im def. gonna pay.
movieluv94 2 years ago
I believe in Dutch or sometimes man sometimes women. I mean equality right. Or atleast the person who makes more money
leehenry2 2 years ago
he should pay, full stop! Its not about the money its about common respect for the definition of roles. If I was going out with a male friend, then I would always offer to pay halves, but if Im interested in a guy, and we're on a date and he doesnt pay, its a bad sign... He just doesnt care enough to at least pretend hes not cheap, for the sake of the first date protocol!? It would put me off!
pat0908 2 years ago
Think of it as a selective process. It's a great way for guys to filter out the materialistic leeches early on.
yubarraboo 1 year ago
PART TWO.. And countless activities that you can do for free. That way you get to spend some time getting a feel for that person, and should you want to go for a drink or meal after that, it will give you enough time to establish who will pay for what, should you choose to discuss it. No awkward moments need come into play that way.
Too many rules = too many complications. Isn't life complicated enough?
LadyDejaVu69 2 years ago
PART ONE.... I'm seriously finding it difficult to understand northern American attitudes towards dating. You make it sound like such hard work, when theirs no need. This big pressure to get the first day right, is mind blowing to me. Who picks up the cheque? What does it mean if he doesn't pick up the cheque? Blah blah blah, talk about making life more difficult than it should be.
Easy solution, go to places that are free! A walk in the park, costs nothing. A trip to a museum costs nothing!
LadyDejaVu69 2 years ago 2
First of all, the first date shouldn't even be somewhere expensive. It should be at a coffee place or whatever. But people want glamor and extravagance on the first date. If it was a date at a coffee shop, we wouldn't even be having this discussion of who picks up when. I'm telling you, dinner dates are way too much pressure for the first date.
velocity246 2 years ago
that woman speaks alot of crap she says if he doesnt pick it up he doesnt want to get to know u at all he could jus be broke or thinks tht u shud pick up the check as ur the one tht chose the most exspensive shit on the menu but other than tht he shud pick it up
buddyluv95 2 years ago
yesterday i had a date with a blonde girl and ofcourse i payed, then we went to another cafe and i realised that she wasn´t that kinda girl i was looking for, and then she wanted to pay at the end, i acted like i dont want that, but, why not :D
serbian78og 2 years ago
Lets face it from a mans point of view Dinner out is a shared experience. It is a time to get to know someone. Somtimes you already know the girl and this is a chance to do somthing nice for her. In the case that this is a first date and meeting it should be split. and if she isnt down with that or never talks to you again as a result then she has a seriouse hooker mentality. If "ladies" want respect then you dont want to be called a hooker so stop having men pay for your time!
drakeboorer 2 years ago
I think the woman should offer, but the man should insist, at least if he's interested
mint83 2 years ago 2
agreed. the woman should atleast offer to pay half. but then a gentlemen would insists to pay anyway. I don't think a guy would sit there and wait for the girl to pay, that's a bitch move. So is pretending to go to the bathroom when the check comes. That's also a bitch move and obvious.
DoctaMalik 2 years ago 4
LOL first date in a restaurant? You're asking for it fellas.
This is why you should find women with shared interests, rather than ones who just want to sit on their arse looking pretty, expecting to be showered with praise and gifts like a poodle.
Does any guy here actually want to end up with someone like the '100 dates' woman? I find her attitude repugnant and seriously outdated.
Ankeshed 2 years ago 5
"You need to make him pay or he doesn't get to see you anymore" wow, that makes it sound like he's on a date with a hooker.
phdiaz 2 years ago 7
"You are going to make him pay or he doesn't get to see you again" so in other words, the girls are like hookers?
phdiaz 2 years ago 7
He needs to pay my ass!!! You girls make just as much as us!!! Pay your own way!!!
-Skyy
skyyjohn 2 years ago 4
There will ALWAYS be more simps than players.
GAMEMENTOR 2 years ago
always pay? lol THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!
ITZTRAG 2 years ago
Whoever asked the other person out on the date should pay. The asker acts as the host and the accepter acts as the guest. Don't matter if you're a man or woman.
forcho130 2 years ago
Totally right!
znakeeye 2 years ago
women are cheap...!!! thats why i don't take dates to dinner....may be for a breakfast (after spending the night).
netcruizer 2 years ago
Fuck that shit Im not paying at all. I might as well get a hooker if that is the case. She has been on 101 dates still single and 40 something not good. That gentleman paying dinner on first dates is played out. That makes a guy a real simp
therater2008 2 years ago
HE SHOULD PAY he asked didn't he? So yeah and i totaly agree with the guest but only one thing i would leave the restaurant and leave him there and then he would have no other choice than to pay lol
poetichild 2 years ago
after that I'll date her mom and make her pay the bill and suck my dick trust me don't take them to dinner take them to the pool park or a club without your wallet
AnimeRaider9493 2 years ago
i will always pay for movie ticket and lunch or dinner only if the girl is cute
aznrcool1 2 years ago
Men, you don't have to subsidize women in order to get laid. If she's into you she'll ride you like a pony regardless.
Be progressive. Be the man of the future. Not the kind who takes barbaric advice from your mother or old hags like these. Understand that women are relentless when it comes to obtaining the greatest amount of compensation as possible for simply having been born with a vagina.
Focus on your health. Focus on your wealth. The rest falls in place. Stop wasting money on girls!
dixonada 2 years ago 4
Lol! This is ridiculas! Outragous! Are you kidding me?!
Women! You wanted equal rights. You wanted equality. Now you will pay HALF of the check. Or pay for what you ordered. Feminism killed chivelry. You can;t have it both ways.
Guys. Here is a tip. If she answers her cell phone even once during the date (and it's not related to work) or texts - you stand up and say "excuse me I have to go the restroom" and you WALK OUT. You get in your car and you leave. 8)
We are NOT paying!
LeftLiberalSoCal 2 years ago 20
DAMN RIGHT!!
thatnewguy23 2 years ago
@LeftLiberalSoCal Props.
TutorialsForYou19 1 year ago
I went out for dinner with a guy when he asked me, the bill was less than $15 for both of us and he still made me pay! I even spent a few minutes in the bathroom. I turned him down for a second date multiple times... I should send him this video.
abedesky 2 years ago
I think it depends on culture. In my chinese culture, the guy will pay on the 1st, 2nd 3rd, 4th..... and zth date.
HoSayLiaoLah 2 years ago
There used to be such thing as a Gentleman. I believe that thing has either been forgotten or bastardized. Of course the man pays on the first date. It relates that he fulfills his primordial duty.
Blessedsight 2 years ago
Yes. And those gentlemen used to beat the women they loved with a belt. What's your point?
ldao88 2 years ago
Well lets not make too many blanketed statements here. I mean the bastardization I speak of has lead us to such generalities. Yes there were "gentlemen" that would beat their wives with belts. There were also real gentlemen that loved their women without violence. My grandfather is proof lol.
Blessedsight 2 years ago
And just why the h*ll should the man pay? Just WHY? I have never ever herd a reason for it.
StefanIson123 2 years ago
The one who asks the other part out pays. If the girl asks for a date, she pays. Thets the "guidelines" of dating. But i wouldn't be able to let her. Stupid macho thoughts that just gets twisted in todays society. But a 50/50 split is also fine, if both parts insist on paying.
StefanIson123 2 years ago
i think the girl should offer to pay her half on the first date. but to be brutally honest, if he LETS me, he's not getting a second date.
amnesiacsmuzak 2 years ago
50% and 50%!!!! That's called FAIR!!!! If a girl pay 50% in the first date she's giving me a signal that this is not going to be a one sided relationship.
VeXeR360 2 years ago
i can't believe you let the girl pay. !
alavetor 2 years ago 2
Actually im very good at seducing beauties....believe it or not...I just don't care hahaha!
VeXeR360 2 years ago
Sarah invites Bob to this fancy restaurant. Bob is a poor guy. Sarah likes spending money. Bob eats the cheapest shit in the menu. Sarah eats like a cow. Then comes wine, desert and shit. What should Bob do ?
buckethead111 2 years ago
Bob should have recommended a different restaurant within his price range or rescheduled.
RecklessinTx 2 years ago
If Sarah is the invitor, Bob should just do the eating and let Sarah do the paying.
HoSayLiaoLah 2 years ago
Victoria is a slut.
buckethead111 2 years ago
wtf kinda of question is that, the man always pays
pizzabox24 2 years ago 2
She's not so much a slut as she is an asshole.
ldao88 2 years ago
If it is a date, the man should always pay! What kind of question is that! If a man doesn't pay...that's the last date. If he doesn't want to pay...make him. If he can't, pay the check, tell him you're gone, and leave him where he sits. No question! Guys, not paying is soooo unsexy!
jdfox1 2 years ago
I think it really depends on the financial situation of both parties.. if you are both broke students or whatever, it just makes sense to split it. Just because he can't afford the whole bill doesn't mean he isn't worthy of your time.
bcsweetheart444 2 years ago 4
This is completely wrong if a women won't see a guy ever again just because they won't pay the bill it shows how shallow they are and there just ruining it 4 themselves. There are plenty of decent guys out there, dont judge them on whether thy pay the fricken bill or not! Definately wouldn't call this Victorya women any kind of relationship expert!
Spike12341234 2 years ago 6
She is an expert just cuz she knows what GIRLS THINK! and girls find a guy who will not pay totally jelious and not MAN ENOUGH!
alavetor 2 years ago
@Spike12341234 Well go figure. It came out of the mouth of the lady who's dated 101 men in a year. Of course she is shallow. She just wants to lead men on to make herself feel good, and she got 101 free fucking meals. Pathetic and sends women 100 years back.
insaniac82 2 years ago
I think you are entirely wrong. I think the first date should always be GO DUTCH. It is a first date and why women always think the man should pay is beyond me. I always go dutch on the first date. By the way I am a women.
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catfight0 2 years ago
Of course guys should pay on the first date, it's the way things are. That's why guys always have a secret stash that's dating money!
DippinDots41 2 years ago
when she goes to the bathroom id be gone lolz!
ivanyoulube 3 years ago 5
hahahahaha
mizzbsf 3 years ago
lawl... wtf.
She went out with 100 guys, still don't understand them...
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That was pure feminism . bitch.
Thank God I am a man.
KoCoff 3 years ago
ok its not old fashend or any thing its just maners and yeh maby the secand date she might pay or even split the check but first date is a must ! am lee am 14 and love ur videos
ruifiewrfhrwiuhfiu 3 years ago
if he has to pay, then she should have to put out.
if she went on 101 dates, and is still single, then thats 101 guys who wasted their money.
rockb922 3 years ago 3
I had a woman I had just met tell me that she wanted to "take me out for my birthday". So naturally I said yes. I ended up having to pay the check after seeing that she was going to make no effort at all. I later found out that she was appalled I didn't make a hasty effort to pay the tab. Needless to say, I haven't been hanging with her. But geez, if someone offers to take ME out, I didn't think I'd pay the tab. Any thoughts?
dacawone 3 years ago
It's your birthday, you're allowed to practically do what you want that day within......eh.... reason
She needs some manners and decency that's all
Who sais going out for a birthday meal is a date?
kaifei 2 years ago
I agree; if--she offered to take you out, she should pay. Not even to mention it was your b-day.
juicebowl 2 years ago
i like to pay... but fuck that ugly cunt for saying the guy should have to pay... you pay bitch.
sometimesvideofun 3 years ago 14
fucking right ha ha ha
+1
KoCoff 3 years ago
@sometimesvideofun I find this funny about women and money: After u spend $40-$60 a date for them and after a while, you'll move in together, she'll get mad at u for not having a lot of money. I just hope they realize that by putting videos like on youtube,is partially hurting the girls whom they're trying to protect financially. So I agree with u, she should have to cough up the money at least once! Is that too much to ask for u women out there?!!
flybeetle27 9 months ago
Pay for the first date my ass. Sorry girlies but the gravy train ends here, if on a first date YOU don't at the very least OFFER to pay your own way it is ME that is not going to see YOU ever again. Your potential pussy is NOT worth my pride and dignity. The 20s are over, she makes her own money (far easier than I do) and she can pay for her own meal. Men, get the idea out of your head that her pussy is worth more than your penis, she won't respect you...she doesn't get to see you. Simple.
MaxSachs 3 years ago 9
Lol, look at the sissy's commenting on this page.
MaxSachs 3 years ago
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DanAndJenn 3 years ago
Yeh. lol ima guy. I would pay no matter.. XD
azncoolz 3 years ago
girls pay ? shit never heard about that . bitches never pay
buckethead111 3 years ago
be realistic guys,if u dont pay the bill she will dump your ass,its very very very rare that you will find a chick who will even be willing to chip in some %%% if your lucky, i know its bullshit but it is what it is..
cleverlittlesneak2 3 years ago
men should pay boys dont because they arent mature
I choose being a man is the best choice
Marnarabyss 3 years ago
Ya and women know their way is to be barefoot and have their butt in the kitchen, or how it used to be. If change is occuring there, it can too in other aspects.
juicebowl 2 years ago
Why should the guy pay? What's wrong with splitting the bill?
Katarina1988 3 years ago
I think it is rediculous to say that HE MUST PAY! I think it is an antiquated double standard. That being said, I do reccomend that guys pay(at least for the first one). It does seem to be an impressive gesture. ; )
MasterJaxon 3 years ago
I think if a guy ask a girl out on a date he should definitely pay.
Fiyahmummah 3 years ago 2
im not even going on a date with this girl "just hanging out" (i don't want to push things or ruin it) but i even see my self paying for the movie. i want her to feel that she doens't have to be loaded to spend time with me. but i really like her so it's fine with me. if i ever get to go out with her i guarantee that i will be the happiest guy in the world because i like everything about her:)
666Emerica 3 years ago
Agreed. It makes the guy look good and increases his chances of getting laid. And it's classy.
CheckerBoardPants 3 years ago
Can I almost see Jen's boob in this video or am I needing a date ASAP?
nmelocolombia 3 years ago
Being a good girl= letting the guy pay for bill? Shit if the girl was really good, she would pay it for me. What a gold digger.
InfiniteRagnarok 3 years ago
The whole concept of men shelling out for dates came about during a time when most women did not work outside the home and were dependent on others for money. Times have changed, be civilized and go dutch. This is the 21st century, why are we still so adamant about old fashioned mores and gender roles? Everything that woman says is a two way street, i.e, one could say "If she refuses to pick up the check then she's not interested in getting to know you." Her response was very obtuse.
marfitz2434 3 years ago 4
I don't think the issue is as simple as this video makes out. Whilst it might be chivalrous to pay for your date's drinks or meal, it depends entirely on the individual with whom you share company.
This is largely a question of tact. If you automatically pick up the tab you are insisting, possibly offending, and not communicating with your date. Whereas if you merely offer to pay for the tab, she may either insist she pays her own, or she may graciously accept the kind gesture. Big difference.
wivvix 3 years ago 3
So she's saying that the most important thing about a relationship is how much money she can get out of a man.
neptune60 3 years ago
wtf thats bullshit
bling1800 3 years ago
She is a Old ass whore, ... Nah im just jokeing, but serriously, some guys can be low on cash, espessialy if he is a student, i dont think she shuld just dump his ass on the spot, give him some chances to show his worth, like, if he likes you, he will wait for sex for a long time, and eaven if he dosnt it migth even be your ''fault'' maby he thinks you are needy and booring
Protech14 3 years ago
One question for the guys: how do you want to be remembered?
Personally, I would just ask if we're going to go and if doesn't pick up the check, I'm doing it. I'll pay for the both of us and just say "thank you for that wonderful conversation." and leave. If he calls, I'll just say that I'm too busy or whatever.
TeleuteEirene 3 years ago
if the guy dosent pay on the 1st or any date he is a gay ass motherfucker mind my language but thats my thought of the video
coolbmxer47 3 years ago
but that's so.... he should always pay
alavetor 2 years ago 2
being a guy for the 1st date i wouldn't even get in the situation of going to a restaurant. insted go bowling, walk in the town, chek out places in the mall etc. this is a great way of getting to know the other person for their personality and likes/dislikes rather than the size of ur wallet
kaykev89 3 years ago 5
dude you got that right, so many bitches here
Protech14 3 years ago
this type of debate only happens in America.
asianlock 3 years ago
What do you mean?
junko45 3 years ago
That tradition is slowly dying because of mother fuckers like you who are panty ass snot noses that are still sucking your mothers tit and probably still living at home. I think YOU need to suck a bulls dick or you're probably fucking sheep.
whyou1234 3 years ago
Fuck you Kiss Miss Serbia's ass!! As being 52, I've run into alot of assholes like you and married one. That's why I can comment on the subject. I came from a different generation than what it is today. Things have greatly changed since high school, etc. Men opened doors for you,pulled out your chair,ordered for you at restaurants etc.
whyou1234 3 years ago
the man should pay !!!!!!!!
nahidlovessunflowers 3 years ago
bullshit there can be reasons why the man doesn't pay..
Asifigiveafck 3 years ago
As being a woman,never offer to pay the check. If the man doesn't have enough class or sense to pay for it, you don't need him. Been there, done that! In fact, I payed for almost the whole week end and this guy made 6 figures a year. If they're going to be "tight" on small things, he is a domineering,overbearing,male chauvinistic bastard.
whyou1234 3 years ago
Fuck you, you sexist cunt! This is probably why you've never been happy in your lousy little life, and talking bullshit like this at 52 makes a lot of sense why you're a sexist gold-digger bastard!
Go suck a goat's testicle!
KiMisSerbia 3 years ago
Honesty and the ability to be able to talk about everything is two things that for me will simplify this;
When the check is on the table, ask.
"Do you want to split it, or can i be the gentleman and take care of it?". I know women that doesn't like that men pay for them. They want to feel independent and not owe anyone anything.
But personally, i would prefer dealing with the check and try to sense if this makes her unconfortable or not.
(Post from Norway)
strangelman 3 years ago
I know it's been a long time but When the check is on the table, ask.
"Do you want to split it, or can i be the gentleman and take care of it?". ...
What the hell do you expect her to answer? "Yes, please, be a gentelmen"?....lol, too stupid!
alavetor 2 years ago
I think on the first date it would be a classy move for the guy to pay. All the time I see many guys letting the women buy them everything. Especially during christmas time. I don't care who you are, spending to much money on someone show lack of confidence. If you want you pay first and she can take you out next time. Or even make bets while playing pool, it's fun cocky and confident. Whatever you do just have fun. Like my ex says "Money is only paper". Smartest statement I ever heard.
Prodigyforfun 3 years ago
I think on the first date it would be cliche for the guy to pay.
I don't understand stereotypes. Why? Why do we let these things happen?
This isn't fair. Wouldn't a man appreciate a woman paying just as a woman appreciates a man paying? There should not be an unwritten rule for this to occur.
That woman talking in the video really comes off sounding like an asshole to me - denying a second date if the man refuses to pay. I'd go out with her and deny her a second date because SHE refuses
Farglesword 3 years ago
What a bunch of bullshit. "Leave for 5 minutes" ??? Offer to help pay, and MEAN it. Then, I'll have no issue paying the whole thing. Then, whatever you do after dinner, drinks, coffee, movies, etc, the girl INSISTS on paying and I'll let her. THATS how it should be.
themarshall65 3 years ago 2
Yeah. This sounds more reasonable.
Farglesword 3 years ago
the person who asks for the date should pay the bill but most guys would pay out of the classic steriotype of the male paying.
I dont like that woman...
hotinthe 3 years ago 3
Exactly what I was going to type lol.
NTAzakku 3 years ago
I'm entirely with Rugsrat on this. Whoever asked the other one out should pick up the check.
If the other person is uncomfortable allowing themselves to be "paid for," they can make it up later on, either by paying next time or by springing for the drinks afterwards or the cab or whatever else comes up in the future.
lisaberlin 3 years ago
I'm of the firm opinion that whomever did the asking out has to pay. Trickier on a blind date, but I'm not against splitting a check.
Rugsrat 3 years ago
To finish off. The classy thing for the woman to do is 1) Don't offer to pay half in a manner that so obviously is fake. 2) If you do offer to pay half...make it like it isn't a big deal and pretend if necessary that you believe in real equality. 3) Best of all is to offer to pay on the next date..and plan the date.
Anyone can control the price of the date if they are the one that plans it to some extent. Coffee dates are cheap and no one should argue over the bill.
thehighlndr 3 years ago
Another poster here said:
"Split the check on the first date so he won't expect sex for paying the bill. Do men feel emasculated if we insist on splitting it?"
I would generally expect and want to pay on a first date, well if I asked her out. I'm an old style knight.
The comment echoed what how I was insulted on a few dates. You are treating us like petty pervs by awkwardly insisting on splitting. I ask you on a 2nd date after you treat me like a rapist. It shows insecurity and paranoia.
thehighlndr 3 years ago 2
In that case, guys should ask girl where she wants to go on the first date. if she pick some expencive place, don't go. not on to second date, not on the first date, not ever... long live materialism!!! where did you finding this "experts"!?
papeYU 3 years ago
This is outdated advice. Go dutch on the first date. It says a)you're my equal and b)i'm not expecting anything out of you tonight. When you foot the bill, you're setting yourself up to look like a desperate chump.
dhnunj 3 years ago
Bullshit! These is for weak men who think the girl is the prize. No woman should ever EXPECT a man to pay for the check. It is the man's choice to pay for her portion of the date. This crap about pay for it or never see me again, only send the message that she is a freeloader and cannot take care of herself. If the man does pay, then woman should at least do the decent thing and pay for the next date, providing the man "earned it".
chachee99 3 years ago 3
Way to be a paradigm for equality of the sexes. Want equal pay and treatment in the business world? Try paying your share everywhere.
This guest star is a douchebag.
Crymson1 3 years ago
it depends is she slutty and going to put out? then pay. but if its a blind date and she turns out to be a fat chick; just say u have to go for a smoke and just leave her there.. that will teach her to be fat.. btw iv done this before. my buddy hooked me up with a chick and he was like shes really nice; but he didnt mention she was really big.. like really really big. like 350 lbs big.. i tried to enkoy my steak but just looking at her and thought of kissing her good night mae me wanna puke, lol
bleachisgreat963 3 years ago
It sad. And they say women aren't manipulative. What's wrong with just being a buddy? Why just the man needs to show interest? And why is suddenly interest rewarded with cash? Degrading. Step up to the plate women or stop complaining to be treated differently. If you want to be equal, act equal.
robertoacasa 3 years ago
that is total bullshit....
pookfairy 3 years ago
how about this split the bill. its what gay guys do.
alejandrox3 3 years ago
You could flip this the other way and say "Well, maybe the girl just doesn't care about you enough to pay. Maybe you should never see her again." This is sick.
ProjektRaRa 3 years ago
Agreed. Very bad video. Some women want the equal treatment in society but want the old special treatment in more intimate situations. The two don't mix, and those who ask for it are holding back women everywhere socially.
Crymson1 3 years ago
Why do guys have to pay? I pay for mine, you pay for yours. No one complains. Why would you try to coerce someone to pay for you? That's wrong. What a selfish, stereotypical feminist idiot. (I'm female.)
ProjektRaRa 3 years ago 3
Agree completely. I want an equal, not someone whom I treat on basis of what private parts they were born with.
Crymson1 3 years ago
@ProjektRaRa feminism is the exact opposite of what this lady advocated. Feminism = equality of the sexes. This woman is stuck in patriarchal traditions.
insaniac82 2 years ago
Jennifer u hot ?
zainisam 3 years ago
hmm.....97percent of all my dates. The girl/woman has Always refused to let me pay for it.Whatever it is or wherever we were on the date. And on the second date~ still the same. So I think this video clip is wrong. Because in my experiences ~women never ever let me pay.And they get upset when I make motion or even TRY to pay. Honest!
Mano94 3 years ago
They can both pick up the check. Just move your hand and pick it up :)
royalsteven 3 years ago
Need edit button...
I'm not saying I wouldn't pay, but coming out and saying a guy isn't worth it if he doesn't pay makes me balk. What's that say about your personality if you're deciding a guy's worth right on the first date.
MonkeyHood 3 years ago
If a women isn't hired because she won't put out, that's sexist. So if a guy isn't getting a second date because he doesn't fork over, that's what?
Yes, chivalry and all that. I don't mind holding doors open or walking a women to their house even if it's farther, but to actually come out and demand money for your time (free dinner's aren't free) seems sexist towards men.
MonkeyHood 3 years ago
ofcourse if the man is not too paternalistic abt it or 'entitled' abt it and insists on paying really genuinely a gentleman...it kinda HOT ;)
MUTYAAR 3 years ago
i would feel more comfortable SPLITTING THE CHECK EQUALLY...when the guy pays, it feels like i owe him something.... i believe a lot of men believe they r entiltled to sexual advances because you have allowed them to
'take care' of you (a green signal?).both should pay equally....kinda SYMBOLIC of an equal relationship...and it will also take the focus away from 'materialistic persuasion'...to really the people you are and how you tick. i dont agree w/ guy paying everytime - at all!
MUTYAAR 3 years ago
True that, women expect way too much from men. They want the man to make advances on her, paying her checks and expenses, to be always the stronger and brave one etc. It leaves a heavy responsibility on the man. If she doesn't want to pay, doesn't that give her a cheap image also? Why is the man only expect to make money? It's not the old times no more. So I say, equality in everything and little less expectation from each other.
royalsteven 3 years ago 3
I don't think the guy should always have to pay. I think the one who asked for the date should pay or at least you split the check or take turns. If a guy isn't worth it just because he wouldn't pay, Why doesn't the same thing go with females? And why do you have to play games just over a check? I don't see why someone couldn't just come out and say "So, who should pay?" It's called communication. I always be sure I'm not freeloading and that the man I'm dating isn't a freeloader.
LeannelovesFullmetal 3 years ago
In my humble opinion, the man should always pay. I realize this is an outmoded thought process but it is the Gentlemanly thing to do, respect the woman your out with, paying for dinner or whatever activity your doing is one of the many things a man should do on a date.
bobmc23 3 years ago
Split the check on the first date so he won't expect sex for paying the bill. Do men feel emasculated if we insist on splitting it? It turns me off when he expects me to pay the bill without discussing it before ordering. I prefer to discuss this topic before ordering, or when scheduling the date to prevent awkwardness when the check arrives. I woundn't date a guy a 2nd time if stuck me with the bill, and would warn mygirlfriends about the cheapskate as well.
jenniferjuniper97 3 years ago
i'm male and i'd pay; unless its like 400 bucks or something..
fixiosis 3 years ago
i don't know...i think we've evolved culturally past the point of the man being the provider. i think on dates people should go dutch. (split the cheque) although it would be a sweet gesture for the guy to pay.
camila11492 3 years ago
I agree that it is a cultural issue.Any Hispanic man that doesn't pay for the women that he wants to take out is considered to be a loser,not a man sufficient enough to be able to provide.A suggestion that may be palatable First date: somewhere nice and quiet and romantic for a good first impression,man pays.Second date:to the park, you prepare a picnic & fly a kite,hike etc.You wouldn't believe how romantic it is that a guy interested in you wants to be around you.Just to have fun & spend time.
Madeste 3 years ago
First of all, the lady has been on 100 first dates. According to her she has been invited for second dates as well by most of them.
It shouldn't be such an issue anymore. In the old days women looked after the children and did not earn money. There was a necesity for the man to pay.
Nowadays women are earning their part and fighting for equal rights, what about equal duties ladies?
As I do not try to understand women, but just love them, I usually pay : - )
321ozzy 3 years ago
For the lady that has spent 1.5 year on going on first dates.
Did she go out on the first dates to have material for her book, all sponsored by men who were serious about the date?
So who is judging who about being serious or not ?
A tip for dates: if you like each other, it goes natural anyway and it does not matter if you are at a hamburger stand or a fancy restaurant. No need for forced jokes, compliments or whatever, they sound better when you DO mean them anyway.
321ozzy 3 years ago
"if she's not pickin' up that check on the first date, then she is not interested in getting to know you... at all."
sound familiar? She just said it, except that she was talking about the man and not the woman. She's just after a guy's money.
If she was so successful, she wouldn't be having so many first dates, she would be having second, third, fourth, etc. dates.
It seems like someone here doesn't have a "man to keep"
jamesccostello 3 years ago 2
You cant make the girl share the check, but if she does it spontaneously it s a major plus. Sharing the check on the first date is proof that you are independant and a thoughtful, respectful person. Thats a fair and balanced start for a relationship. I think women share the check because that way they dont feel obliged in any way towards the other person. Opposite what the woman says here... by the way i m 27, she s probably 47, so it s a different generation talking ;o)
niktasor 3 years ago
I mean you have to pay on the first date but, don't let it get out of hand. Sometimes the girl can be using you for money. Witch has happened to me. But ask her out occasionally and not too often. Because then she will start to get power over your green.
djphonehome 3 years ago
Whoever was the one who asked to go on a date should pay.
KeraKobayashi 3 years ago
that dosnt really work since women never ask men for dates.
TENNSUMITSUMA 3 years ago
How stupid is that? If you don't pay, then you are not real man and not interested of her?
I guess that men don't just want someone who is just living on hes cost.
vabastiil 3 years ago
be a man and pay
Marnarabyss 3 years ago
Marnarabyss: be a whore and accept it:)
supernova58 3 years ago
its called be a man
Marnarabyss 3 years ago
Does this mean that they always do the dishes and cook the food at home?
Crymson1 3 years ago
so, obviously in here all of you thing a man to keep is the one who pays.Well how about pay half half?? I ve been with hundreds of women and if you pay on the first date 90% of them will think 'your the banker'. Money is money ladies, we all have to work for it in the same way,than we should do all the same
thedjwilly 3 years ago
You may think it doesn't, but it does!!!!
Kayshaneil 3 years ago
I see a lot of guys commenting with the reverse psychology thing...please stop! If you're a cheap ass, don't invite a girl on a date. No one likes a cheap ass ok. It tells a lot about who you are, trust me!
Kayshaneil 3 years ago 2
He should pay. It's not about him paying because he's the guy and he should pay, but it's about his character. This sort of situation gives you a great deal of insight as to his general character and what type of man he will be in a relationship! No ifs ands or butts about it! If he is the one who asked you, then he should definitely pay! Think about this for a second. He is asking YOU! You don't have to go with him. There are fifty million other things that you could be doing with your time!
Kayshaneil 3 years ago 2
i always pay for the girl when i go on dates. its just a moral thing for me lol. and i enjoy paying for them. if they don't let me and pay for themselves or somethin then i feel like a free loader or somethin. its weird as hell but ya.
truewolfen 3 years ago
Good for you. Your nothing but her banker. Think of it in retrospect, you just called every woman a freeloader, ridiculous. I can understand the guy paying on the first date (I usually do low commitment/test dates such as coffee etc) If the girl insists on my paying the second/third time i.e doesn't strongly offer/insist on paying, that's a sign of immature thinking to me. The relationship ends there and she needs to understand the difference between a reciprocal relationship and a sugar daddy.
thekashman 3 years ago
@Kayshaneil Of course he is asking you. Because most women still don't have the courage to ask guys out. So guys have to do the work and ask the girl out. However, what does that say about HER character if she doesn't want to split the bill? Are you just in it for the money? You wanted a free meal? Why not split the bill?
The whole thing about "you don't have to go with him" is correct. But if you did, then you should be courteous and pay half. Otherwise, you're just trying to get a free meal.
insaniac82 2 years ago
@insaniac82 just bcuz we make boyz pay doesnt mean we are trying to get a free meal. we can pay half bhut we choose not too bcuz us girls want to c wat type of guy are we actually dating. bcuz if a guy asks us to split da bill in half den he is being too cheap! its just a date how expensive can i b? is it realy dat too much to pay for one date? yes some girls pay bhut its only wen we offer not wen we get told to or evn aasked to pay half. we dont force boyz to pay for ery single fing!!!!!!!!!!!
mehhornybitch 9 months ago