Shotokan Kumite

[gxdragon]

There's nothing wrong with sticking to what you love. Shotokan is my main style but the truth is, I just got bored. I started at 12, I'm in my 40s now and stepping and reverse punches... just got boring. If you enjoy what you do then do it. Why worry about what other people think?

[THEpillows100]

i study wado ryu and was taught some useful joint locks, it all just depends on the style of karate, some focus more on hard strikes while others incorporate a jit-jitsu component to it.

[sundomepharmd]

wow! nice clip. i vote for more Okazaki Sensei narations :)

[AndrewTooyak]

Okazaki Sensei as narrator!

[Philmoscowitz]

i know where Tanaka sensei is today, but does anyone know where his opponent, Evans, is?

[gxdragon]

Yes, still teaching in Philly. He has a following of people that have been with him for a long time.

[Philmoscowitz]

is he at Okazaki's dojo, or does he have his own?

[ndileonardo]

Ski had a falling out with JKA...he has his own dojo. Used to be next to Eastern State Prison in philly but it has since moved.

[ndileonardo]

Had the honor of training with Senseis Evans, McKenna, Farrachio and Okazaki Shihan while living in Philadelphia. 4 different dojos, slightly different teaching styles, one intensity! Don't be jealous! :-)

[goodddmannn]

yes, mma is a new breed of fighter, where anything goes without sticking to one form of discipline

[goodddmannn]

sissies put them in the cage in ufc

[bjjcrap]

faggot. you wont last a second vs the sissies

[goodddmannn]

it would only take a mili second to teach these sissies a lesson with mma

[gxdragon]

I also do mma and you have no idea what you're talking about. Sensei Evans is in his mid sixties and still fast as lightening and he hits like a brick.

[goodddmannn]

Look all i am saying is that shotokan kumite and katas are good for a bit of exercise but when it comes down to the real deal mma ufc in the cage, sensei evans would be hitting the floor like a tonne of bricks!

[gxdragon]

Shotokan has served me well over the years and sensei Evans is the best instructor I've had in the 30 years that i've studied various martial arts. Many of the kicks come instinctively when I get into the cage/ring and they work just fine. The karate kicks may not hit as hard as the mauy thai kicks but they're often quicker and can get you out of trouble in a bad position. I'll agree that shotokan doesn't teach you to deal with the grappling aspect of mma but on your feet you can do just fine.

[gxdragon]

I don't believe there is any ultimate ma, they all have strengths and weaknesses. I also believe a MA is only as good as it's practitioner.

[BloodyBay]

@gxdragon Truth! Even a Sandan can be bested by a common barroom brawler if the Sandan can't translate his practice into an actual free fight.

Of course, we should make the distinction between sport forms and fighting forms. Western Boxing, with all its sporting rules, makes a poor martial art, but the ancient Pankration boxing from which it stems serves better. Roman Pankration fighters used to die in matches, even without wearing cesti.

Sounds like an effective (if brutal) style to me.

[gxdragon]

@BloodyBay Anybody can be beat, I've known many MA guys that weren't very goos at what they do and I've known some street brawlers that were. As far boxing not being a good MA, I disagree. You can't compare the rules (which are designed to protect the fighters) for fighting in a ring with what a boxer is capable of doing to protect themselves on the street. karate tournaments have rules too, it's not an all out brawl.

[gxdragon]

@BloodyBay Anybody can be beat, I've known many MA guys that weren't very good at what they do and I've known some street brawlers that were. As far boxing not being a good MA, I disagree. You can't compare the rules (which are designed to protect the fighters) for fighting in a ring with what a boxer is capable of doing to protect themselves on the street. karate tournaments have rules too, it's not an all out brawl.

[TheSwiech]

I fully agree. The JKA preserve their style very well, through katas and kumite. Much more concentrated on the art. Which I find quite admirable as well as effective. It takes TIME to do good karate and a motivated mind to excellent karate.

[BN756]

nice words!

OSS!

[myguitardidyermom12]

@gxdragon You make a good point. The traditional martial arts get a lot of flack in mma community. These people are missing the concept of "mixed martial arts"

[BloodyBay]

@myguitardidyermom12 I agree. It does seem like so many MMA matches involve a bunch of jack-of-all-trade dabblers. "Oh, I know how I'll make myself the ultimate warrior! I'll take a little Traditional Muay Thai mixed with some American Kickboxing for the kicks, some Tang Soo Do Karate for the punches, some Shin'ei Taido for the hip throws and rotary throws...."

What's wrong with sticking to one style and mastering it? Has that sort of discipline really become so unfashionable these days?

[gxdragon]

@BloodyBay There's nothing wrong with sticking to what you love. Shotokan is my main style but the truth is, I just got bored. I started at 12, I'm in my 40s now stepping and reverse punches... just got boring. If you enjoy what you do then do it. Why worry about what other people think?

[gxdragon]

@BloodyBay Don't discount those Jack-of-all-trades. I go to the gym 3-4 time a week (when possible) and spend 2-3 hours training each time. There are kids in there that spend twice that and more training in MMA perfecting their grappling, stand up fighting or both.

[M3COMS]

Are you just a little kid who likes too watch ufc on spike? Because for some reason stupid little kids believe that mma is a godly unbeatable style lol and since you talk alot of trash on you tube i have too assume you are just a kid.

[M3COMS]

Wow, so you do understand that karate is underneath the mma banner right? Mixed Martial Arts, as in more than one martial art. Just because bjj, thai boxing,and wrestling are the popular ones right now doesnt mean karate is any less effective. Ever heard of Lyoto Machida? Yeah he does karate

[johnm543]

MMA is a sport. Karate is self improvement/self defense whats the news there?

Just sayin thats how they are defined. Nobody really learns MMA for self defense they learn it for competition. So IMO neither is exactly the "real deal".

[goodddmannn]

yes you are right,it is very good for self improvement

[lukkiop]

Well actually Chuck Liddel, GSP, and Lyoto Machida all do karate so we did put them in the cage and they all dominated the world so maybe you should check your facts a little bit before making such outrageous claims.

[sixyears]

@lukkiop this is true, there are at least 35 karate Based MMA fighter and they usually the best. All of them have a very good win to loss ratio, as in several more wins to few losses. People like to bash Karate in general but it's actually dominating the MMA scene.

[lukkiop]

@sixyears Yeah and there are even twice as many now than there were 7 months ago when i said this. GSP, Chuck Liddell, Lyoto Machida, Katsunori Kikuno, and Bas Rutten are all karate guys with a combined record of 100 wins with 16 losses. There are less karate guys in mma because they often dedicate their lives only to karate but the few that there are have dominated.

[sixyears]

@lukkiop Also Karate in it's most tradition form is very similar to Jujitsu. In Shotokans case Judo and Jujitsu were part of the curriculum and still are, especially in more traditional schools.

[lukkiop]

@sixyears Yeah as a karate practitioner i've learned some jiu jitsu submissions and judo throws and escapes. People percieve karate as a striking art which is mostly true in styles like kyokushin but in shotokan and wado ryu judo and jiu jitsu are incorporated quite a bit.

[wannabeebee]

reminds me of the good old days when you could of actually hit the guy instead of having to tap them for points.

Good point its got rather silly huh?

Playing tap?

Even in the old days they werent that good

dream world

[wannabeebee]

nowheremanxxi (1 month ago) Tanaka sensei is one of the best karate men ever. It's priceless to watch these videos. So much to learn from him

Yeah as in what? How not to train for an MMA contest? hands down chin in the air? Basic boxing teaches those things. Make competition to suit the training. Put these guys in with a decent vale tudo fighter and they wouldnt last 2 seconds. Ditto with a decent boxer.

Dream world with white gi.s and a pretty belt

[ResidentNinja]

... Somebody doesn't know how to click the "Reply" button.

One man, one legend. Lyoto Carvalho Machida. A black belt in both Brazilian Jiu-jitsu and Shotokan karate.

[wannabeebee]

Yep but machida did more than just shotokan point scoring?

He evolved. I actualy like the guys fighing skills.

[ResidentNinja]

Shotokan can be about more than just point scoring.

[wannabeebee]

Glad to hear it.

In the kata there are throws and all kinds of wonderfull things. Except some intepretatioins can be garbage. Some are quite good.

[urkingod]

Distance is too far, I would do a close in fight and jump the distance, the do Low kick heck out of the opponent, then do Jyodan Mawashi Geri to finish of course in FULL CONTACT.

[ludikalo]

reminds me of the good old days when you could of actually hit the guy instead of having to tap them for points.

[nowheremanxxi]

Tanaka sensei is one of the best karate men ever. It's priceless to watch these videos. So much to learn from him

[tZalypse]

Tanaka sensei is one of the legend of JKA, not only JKA, legend of martial arts.

He's a monster

[clairton3]

muito massa esse video,parabéns

[choja98]

Thanks for posting these videos. I currently train w/Ski and watching these videos and watching him as an instructoris truly priceless. Thanks for sharing!

[Cetramarius]

Wow, it's been a long search for some old Tanaka footage. Now we're getting somewhere. One of the best kumitemen ever!

[AZNKC]

omfg im competing in this in september...

[gxdragon]

These tapes have been around for a while, I've probably had them for about ten years now. I believe Okazaki also sells copies of these videos. so you should be able to pick them up at your Dojo.

I posted video of Gerald Evans because Gerald (Ski) is my sensei and good friend for the past twenty years.

[onanokodo]

Yes, I shared this video with a cohort of mine that immediately recognized it as one that's been distributed over the ears, copies of copies of copies. I'm new to ISKF, so I guess that's why never run into it. Thanks for the info though. As for Mr. Evans, WOW, a living legend.

I am testing this weekend with Okazaki. Wish me luck!

[nowheremanxxi]

TANAKA THE BEST

[onanokodo]

I was so surprised to come accross footage of this goodwill tournament, legendary in my dojo, and something we still participate in annually. I was further suprised to hear the voice of my instructor Okazaki Sensei! I would love to know where you got this video and how you are related to the organization. I see you have three matches from this tourny up -- do you have any other footage? Thank you and much appreciated!

[gneo3]

He is my sensei as well, but i can not find any footage him in action. didnt see him in nishiyama's video either.