Im writing my own Pixar movie and creating a good villain death is actually pretty hard, it obviously can't be gory but it still has to be intense and have meaning like this.
@AmericanBadass44 Unfortuantly that's true, if you look at it that way. I guess then if someone is a sociopath (killing for pleasure) then you can say you are truely evil!
Muntz's fate in the labyrinth would have been very dark and nightmarish. But his actual death is more symbolict: if to Carl the house was the picture of Ellie and at the same time was the chain that kept him trapped in her memory, unable to go ahead and Muntz was (according the creators) the dark reflection of what Carl might have become, the end is epic. Carl loose the weight chained him and his obsession (Muntz) tries desperately to live, but Carl now is free and he falls into the nothingness.
"We could have made an ending were Muntz redeemed himself ... but then we remembered that the majority of kids these days are semi-retarded and don't want to see some old guys talking ... so we just made them beat the crap out off each other till one died"
The labyrinth idea was really good, but I love the death they chose. It was extremely dark and human, but almost representative of how while Elly's memory floated safely away into the clouds, the memory of Muntz (or how Carl could have become) plunged into nothingness, setting up a new chapter in Carl's life.
@galloway6204 because it's poaching which is bad. Plus he was willing to kill anyone who stood in his way and Kevin was a mom and he was willing to separate those babies from their mother before they could even live on their own.
Bart's moral-high-ground "poaching is bad 'cause it is" argument aside, you've got to look at this movie symbolically.
Kevin WAS a mom. The idea of failed parenthood is a big part of this movie. It's implied at the beginning of the movie that Ellie has a miscarriage. Failed parenthood. That sticks with Carl his whole life.
Any situation where a child is left behind or lost is generally going to be portrayed as tragic once you set something up like that.
@Npowell01 Yea I guess. I just LOVE that Zeppelin so much and wanted muntz to complete what he vowed all those years ago and was so dedicated to! Why Couldnt carl jsut say how modern scientists could prove its real
@galloway6204 It doesn't change the fact that Muntz was a murderer. His entire speech about "Thieves" and "This mountain is a dangerous place they soon learn" was implying (rather bluntly) that not only had he become obsessed with attaining his own personal glory, but killed anyone he even ASSUMED was stepping on his work.
Well the one thing about Muntz's death that ended up in the final film is that it follows the disney tradition of villains falling to their deaths. such as with The Queen in Snow White and the seven dwarfs, Maleficent in Sleeping Beauty, Ratigan in The Great Mouse Detective, Mcleach in The Rescuers Down Under, Gaston in Beauty and The Beast, Frollo in The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Clayton in Tarzan.
If they had gone with Muntz getting lost in the labrynth, it would have been the most nightmarish villain death in any Pixar film (I don't mean that like it would be a bad thing, Disney and Pixar are at their best when they're scary), because when you think about it, Hopper and Syndrome actually went out pretty quickly.
I thought the part where he just stood there and watched muntz fall with the house seemed too dark for him.
agentEE7 2 months ago
Im writing my own Pixar movie and creating a good villain death is actually pretty hard, it obviously can't be gory but it still has to be intense and have meaning like this.
QuentrixMovies 2 months ago
He should have gotten rickrolled
SydneyIsCheese85 4 months ago
I think the ending when Muntz got stuck in the house was really cool.
Agusloquillo 9 months ago
Going to bed thinking 'What evil can I do tomorrow, Muhahaha' XD
Actually, I think terrorists think that before they go to sleep ;)
Cinedragon 1 year ago
@Cinedragon True, but they think they're doing it for some greater good. Even though they couldn't be more wrong.
AmericanBadass44 1 year ago
@AmericanBadass44 Unfortuantly that's true, if you look at it that way. I guess then if someone is a sociopath (killing for pleasure) then you can say you are truely evil!
Cinedragon 1 year ago
@Cinedragon well, Sociopath means to have no feeling or emotion, not killing for pleasure. They have no feelings at all
CuteYetiTv 5 months ago
Aw man, it's too bad he didn't get redeemed, I felt sorry for Muntz. =\
JohnnyBGoode1122 1 year ago
Muntz's fate in the labyrinth would have been very dark and nightmarish. But his actual death is more symbolict: if to Carl the house was the picture of Ellie and at the same time was the chain that kept him trapped in her memory, unable to go ahead and Muntz was (according the creators) the dark reflection of what Carl might have become, the end is epic. Carl loose the weight chained him and his obsession (Muntz) tries desperately to live, but Carl now is free and he falls into the nothingness.
marthyncho 1 year ago
4:02 MY EYES!!!!!! THEY BURN!!!!!!
CHCHuser 1 year ago 2
I feel sorry for Muntz, because he wasn't really evil, he was just lost
Gaaraape 1 year ago 4
I lol'd at 0:09
PredsGrrl 1 year ago
"We could have made an ending were Muntz redeemed himself ... but then we remembered that the majority of kids these days are semi-retarded and don't want to see some old guys talking ... so we just made them beat the crap out off each other till one died"
Fuck these guys.
ASKaPHYSICIST 1 year ago
hehe look at his face 2:45
missrubberduckzillaa 1 year ago
The labyrinth idea was really good, but I love the death they chose. It was extremely dark and human, but almost representative of how while Elly's memory floated safely away into the clouds, the memory of Muntz (or how Carl could have become) plunged into nothingness, setting up a new chapter in Carl's life.
Nanaman12345 1 year ago
I dont get why getting the bird was such an evil thing?
galloway6204 1 year ago
@galloway6204 because it's poaching which is bad. Plus he was willing to kill anyone who stood in his way and Kevin was a mom and he was willing to separate those babies from their mother before they could even live on their own.
bart11114 1 year ago
@bart11114 *rolls eyes
galloway6204 1 year ago
@galloway6204
Bart's moral-high-ground "poaching is bad 'cause it is" argument aside, you've got to look at this movie symbolically.
Kevin WAS a mom. The idea of failed parenthood is a big part of this movie. It's implied at the beginning of the movie that Ellie has a miscarriage. Failed parenthood. That sticks with Carl his whole life.
Any situation where a child is left behind or lost is generally going to be portrayed as tragic once you set something up like that.
Npowell01 1 year ago
@Npowell01 Yea I guess. I just LOVE that Zeppelin so much and wanted muntz to complete what he vowed all those years ago and was so dedicated to! Why Couldnt carl jsut say how modern scientists could prove its real
galloway6204 1 year ago
@galloway6204 It doesn't change the fact that Muntz was a murderer. His entire speech about "Thieves" and "This mountain is a dangerous place they soon learn" was implying (rather bluntly) that not only had he become obsessed with attaining his own personal glory, but killed anyone he even ASSUMED was stepping on his work.
himansku 1 year ago
@galloway6204 bart11114 is right
eagc7 5 months ago
Well the one thing about Muntz's death that ended up in the final film is that it follows the disney tradition of villains falling to their deaths. such as with The Queen in Snow White and the seven dwarfs, Maleficent in Sleeping Beauty, Ratigan in The Great Mouse Detective, Mcleach in The Rescuers Down Under, Gaston in Beauty and The Beast, Frollo in The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Clayton in Tarzan.
bart11114 1 year ago
Don't forget Queen Narisa in Enchanted!
pbscraze 1 year ago
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Meldrew2008 1 year ago
If they had gone with Muntz getting lost in the labrynth, it would have been the most nightmarish villain death in any Pixar film (I don't mean that like it would be a bad thing, Disney and Pixar are at their best when they're scary), because when you think about it, Hopper and Syndrome actually went out pretty quickly.
Meldrew2008 1 year ago
Actually they should've called it: Many ways to kill Muntz XP
Cinedragon 1 year ago
Muntz looks almost the same in his death going up and his death going down.
zimshowfan 1 year ago
I agree, getting lost in the labrynth is quite a good idea. very eerie...
also, place your cursor in the right place at the very end and watch Muntz disappear behind it
JumbleJammyJokes 1 year ago 13
@JumbleJammyJokes cool! its like he's being sucked into the cursor!
agentEE7 2 months ago
It would have been cool if Charles' fate was getting lost in that winding maze of rocks.
hedgehogamy300 2 years ago 17
He dies anyway :">
Love that most.
Great work, it's so detailed ;)
Thanks
whitedove200x 2 years ago