Nanny of the Month (Aug 2010): Police Chief Busts Guy Who Keeps Drunks Off the Street

[felpaluche]

I believe in the post.

[TravistheHuman]

"I wish 3yos would follow the rules." Looks like we won't have much of a problem finding new libertarians in 20 years.

[Blueyez623]

That police chief is a loser i hope one day someone in his family gets drunk and a good citizen doesnt help them, he wanted negative publicity well hes getting it. Way to go chief~!

[Razgriez1]

Dear Police Departments around the nation... your job is to stop crime that puts others in danger or inflict bodily harm upon someone, or assist a Citizen in distress. Not act as Pseudo-IRS Tax collectors... So stop arresting Citizens for performing good deeds and receiving a reward for it. 

[sukumvit]

"We've got much more important things to do... Look! There's a guy over there smoking a joint! Quick, get him!"

[manunkind666]

We must stop the people from meddling in their own affairs! No time to catch that rapist, there's a guy giving free rides to drunks!

[vjacq88]

The days of the uptight suit wearing official is coming to an end....that's a good thing.

[XxUrSoLoStxX]

@JaKKeBrOwN my point exactly, what's law? I stand by my last comment.

[papeluso]

I truly believe that 90% of everything NEGATIVE in the world and in our history happened because of government or religion.

[mereh8]

I live in Quincy, Il and have called Jonathon MANY times for a ride home. The whole ordeal is rediculous. He has the citizens behind him... just not the government. City Council actually changed the Ordinance so that Jonathon would be picking up drunks illegally.

[Nphyx]

@mereh8 I hope all his customers are showing him support more than just on Youtube :) Maybe you guys should start tipping him through bitcoin ;)

[vinoberg]

The gov't loves drunk drivers. It gives them an excuse to raise liquor prices.

[inkfool1]

you don't have to go far to "follow the money" the state makes too much money off of D.U.I.'s to let them get safely home for free. its as simple as that

[yakyakyak69]

Crony-Corporatists (social-fascists) writing regulations to protect their corporate backers from smaller competition.

Regulation and Redistribution has NOTHING to do with FREE Market Capitalism and EVERYTHING to do with Statism (Socialism & Fascism) which is REALLY just a Crony Political Class pandering to GIANT corporate backers.

[Dontana808]

Follow the money. No doubt the taxi cab companies are stuffing bills into this guy's re-election fund.

[mattshsq]

Hmmm... this guy gets drunks off the road which not only means safer roads but less drunks for the cops to arrest and fine... a fine... like a tax which pays the cops salaries... kinda self serving... something to think about before you go around believing the government does anything for you safety... it's just another cash cow that is corrupt police chief is protecting

[XxUrSoLoStxX]

i love how the law is the law to the people who don't obey them and only when it best suits them.

[Wormtail81]

REALLY?????

[robertmike57]

Schoenakase got arrested for running a taxi service because he was running a taxi service. It's easily conceivable he hauls ariound 2 fighting drunks that cause an accident. He have insurance to cover that? His "friends" answering phones for round trip transportation would have easy marks to rob houses. This is only 2 conceivable complications. Jesus fucking Christ you dipshit libertarians swallow this stuff without questioning it.

[thesnakesoup]

@robertmike57 Hahahaha, no: whig.com/story/news/Courtesy-R­ides-Update-080610 It sounds like a simple case of businesses maintaining a monopoly by using government force. Questioning before swallowing is good advice there by the way. Perhaps you should use it sometime when it comes to government and law enforcement.

[robertmike57]

@thesnakesoup Your link shows the bozo has a nonprofit corporation and been charged with leaving a scene of an accident. He has also admitted getting donations from bars. Government regulation exists for a reason.

[rayyf69]

@robertmike57 regulatory instruments are often seized by profit seeking agents and used to insulate themselves from competitors or consumer defection. Democracy makes this very hard to police.

[SheyOneTen]

@robertmike57 Right right Bob. We need the State or else we'd end up with people doing things without State permission... Which ,as you pointed out, will lead to car accidents and robbed houses. I couldn't agree more: If people would just get State permission slips, we could all live a life FREE of car accidents and robbed houses.

[robertmike57]

@SheyOneTen Geeze, you libertarians wallow in boundless stupidity.

[sukumvit]

@robertmike57 Zounds, you socialists indulge in infinite idiocy.

[EESeal]

@robertmike57 It's so sad that your comments reflect the views of LOTs of sheeple with a similar distaste for freedom. Freedom rocks; try it someday. Our founding fathers knew it, but many Americans have become lazy and dependent on Big Gov for their every need. Robert, you seem to trust Big Gov more than your friends and neighbors -- WHY?!

[rayyf69]

@EESeal Leftists will just invoke the concept of positive liberty which they value so your argument won't appeal to leftists.

[robertmike57]

Guy was running an unlicensed taxi service. Problem with you setting up strawmen is you love to gloss over facts that don't fit your agenda.

[monkeyfire087]

@robertmike57 it wasn't a taxi service he wasn't charging for the service nor was he expecting tips he did take them if they were offered though. if this was a taxi service they should arrest you next time a friend gives you gas money for giving him a ride.

[robertmike57]

@monkeyfire087 Schoenakase started to expand his service. He added a couple more vehicles and got a couple of his friends to start answering calls. his business card touts “round-trip” transportation services, he added the bus to his fleet. it’s conceivable the city could theoretically be held liable for allowing the bus to operate on local streets without adequate licensing, inspections or insurance.

ReasonTV is lying fuckheads, that info doesn't fit their Nanny name calling.

[NotSoOldHippy]

"Reason Magazine" is a right wing extremist Republinazi cult magazine that failed.

[monkeyfire087]

@NotSoOldHippy if you are being serious you are an idiot, Go look up libertarian it is not a right wing political philosophy

[baihbalm]

when the laws don't serve the best interests of the people, then they aren't worth following. This cop is the piece of shit, just like many before him and many more to follow. 

[mmsayre]

He was eating into their DWI revenues!

[hannas1234]

Everyone knows that tax laws are more important than any other. Don't they?

Without them the gov't couldn't continue to expand at an ever-increasing rate to provide much needed services to its citizens. Such as the one illustrated here.

[icemilitia]

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." - C.S. Lewis

[PsyckoSama]

What a douchebag...

[saper321]

Government mafia is going after 3-years old now.

It makes you want to support right-wing guerrilla warfare against communism. 

[xZemmax]

Do you really think they want those drunk drivers off the streets? Of course not, that's how they make money for the city, county & state on Friday & Saturday nights.

[tracycolorado]

despicable , evil pieces of Shit

[LovesMassEffect]

police SUCK! They want drunk drivers on the road so they can get accommodations for arresting people. This tax is BS! This guy is keeping drunks off the streets and they want to stop him! SCREW this police department!

[braposo23]

in many states it is against the law to practicing any form of sex other than missionary!! are the cops gonna arrest people when their boning doggystyle F!@K the gistapo police!!!

[highonhayek]

To be fair, the cop WAS actually just doing his job.

[LovesMassEffect]

@highonhayek oh yes he was.... now there will be more drunks on the road. Kudos for being a conformist and supporting drunk driving.

[fitobcnfito]

@highonhayekHis job is to protect citizens, and reinforce the law (that is supposed to be done to protect them). What exactly was he doing here? Does this protect citizens???!!!, or is just a stupid reinforcement of idiotic interpretation of laws...

Police state, Heil Democracy!

[PatriotsRepublic]

I have two things to say; one, we are NOT A DEMOCRACY!!! and two, dead men cannot take your Liberty!

[QuartuvLarry]

To hell with those police assholes! I encourage everyone to follow that driver dude's example and IGNORE these draconian laws!

[whoo689]

Who the hell needs a permit to sell lemonade? and furthermore, where would you GET one to do something as simple as selling lemonade? Is there a general all-purpose business permit? Lastly, WHO THE FUCK SELLS LEMONADE ON THE STREET OTHER THAN LITTLE KIDS HAVING FUN? Stupid fucking bureaucrats

[whoo689]

@whoo689 The idolization of permits and licenses by big-gov't politicians and bureaucrats is so ridiculous. There are COUNTLESS empirical studies showing that licenses have either a mixed record on increased efficiency and safety or a negative effect. Licenses, overall, DON'T WORK. They're unnecessary. Just let people make their own decisions about who to buy from and require someone to advertise whether or not they're licensed. It's so SIMPLE! God...

[whoo689]

@whoo689 How does a license prevent an unscrupulous or evil professional from selling tainted products? It's just a fucking piece of paper that says "This guy passed the necessary tests that the state required"

[whoo689]

@whoo689 TAXI ORDINANCE? LOL. So a person can't just pick certain people up, take them home, and accept a little cash on the side? He can only do it for FREE? Ook... What's the real fucking difference between what the guy did and doing it for free other than a little green?

[whoo689]

@whoo689 I think this situation would've permitted a little DISCRETION by the public officials. They didn't HAVE to enforce such a dumbass law or could've said, "Well, maybe arresting him is a very bad interpretation of the law."

[whoo689]

And btw, does anyone know why local laws are called ordinances? State and federal ones aren't. They're just laws. Ordinance sounds like such an outdated term.

[andron333]

@whoo689 cause the fucking government cant tax his tips. Those cocksuckers what a piece of every littlest pie.

[Nostradamus411]

I'm sure the impetus for the cops busting the Free Cab rides had NOTHING to do with local cab companies b!tching about someone obliterating their business model by providing the same service free of charge.

[furyofbongos]

ASSHOLE of the month!

[ThePoliticalMoose]

They busted him because DUI arrests have become municipal welfare. In Illinois, each DUI carries over $5,000 in fines. A lot of that goes to the police department and city.

[KladionicaCity]

Wonder how these kind of people gets in such position of power.I guess the same way Hitler,Stalin Mao did:naive or just as crazy electors ,either by actively campaigning for ,or by just doing nothing to prevent their rise.

[averagejoe040]

Oh Yeah! Screw the robberies and assaults, I want to nail this guy because he's taking tips. He's an unlicensed taxi and that is a terrible crime. Did he save a life by preventing drunk driving? Who cares? Not this cop.

[FFarmerCharlie]

hm, who should i go after today, person giving free rides to drunks or bank robbery...

[trime1851]

Obviously the Quincy police department has too many resources if they can waste effort on something like this that has no priority. Their budget should be cut by 20% including laying off this incompetent police chief.

[beagle8boy]

I'm glad I'm not a taxpayer in this town. Solving crimes costs money. Manufacturing crime is a revenue enhancer. The elected officials running this town should be ashamed to show their face in public. I wonder how big chief Copley's pension is and if this is how he intends to fund it.

[MsWanderer1]

I'll bet his city is soooooo proud of him!!! He also gets the fickle finger of fate award.

[InTheEndIWasRight]

I can't wait until statism is dead.

[Empathica1]

@InTheEndIWasRight

But, but, but who will build the roads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[InTheEndIWasRight]

@Empathica1 *gasps and faints dramatically*

[Empathica1]

@InTheEndIWasRight

Yeah, you just pwned

[kamikazee55]

@ryguy122189 Well Law does not=Morality. So whether their job is legal or not is irrelevant.

And I do believe in having police force. However the cops we have today are complete fucks.

What is justice? Equilibrium. A balancing of the scales. Reimbursing victims of involuntary damages. Police today go about making criminals out of people who have done no harm. They do an injustice, when no injustice has been done.

Throughout their careers they do more damage than a child molester.

[schmij8]

@kamikazee55 Cops don't write laws, so don't blame them. Write your local congressman/woman and ask them to change the law.

Reason is making the point that the law itself is stupid, not that the police are jerks. And if they are jerks, then it's because laws like this have enabled them to be.

[kamikazee55]

@schmij8 So that makes it okay for them to enforce those laws? No it does not. What they do is immoral and unjust.

And I'm not going to be some societal 'write your congressman' bitch fuck. The majority has no right to take away the minorities rights. A congressman should have no such power either.

[schmij8]

@kamikazee55 So who gets to choose what laws to enforce? Should it be you? Your priorities won't be the same as others, and they'll just complain about your laws. That's why we write them in legislature, because we have to figure out laws as a community. Which is why, if you don't like laws, you have to write (or vote in) your congressman.

So let's say cops decide not to enforce laws they don't like - do they get in trouble for not stopping a crime? What's the threshold?

[kamikazee55]

@schmij8 That is not the solution I'm offering. The solution, is to have perfect laws. Which is absolutely possible. Laws that only go after people that have used force. Anyone that signs up for law enforcement today commits injustice.

They shouldn't have signed up for the job in the first place. They should quit. Any damages caused by their hand should be reimbursed to the victim. So they should have to repay the people for traffic tickets they gave.

[Thill029]

ahh taxi cabs. Yet more proof that monopolies are the product of government regulations.

[Willett6945]

@Thill029 You nailed it!

[jybwatson]

@Thill029 Which monopoly? The government! There I agree but there was no evidence that a cab company went after him. Governments need to start thinking before acting, they are to worried about making money and people are to worried about higher property values. Back during the Great Depression people were know to sell apples to make a few dollars, not you get arrested.

[Maragriz]

@Thill029 as long as you can ''pay the piper''

[brokenscythe]

lol so they support drunk drivers! good job idiots, enjoy the extra DUI's and potential casualties.

[beegeezee505]

This music seems to try and make these situations appear comical. And maybe it would be funny if this were in a movie or sit-com, but this shit has gotten way out of hand. When will we resist this, America? This is what happens when we put rules over morals.

[SheyOneTen]

All this could have been easily avoided if the guy ponied up the $500 the state's "Good Samaritan Permit"... and $200 for the county issued "Actually Increasing Public Safety" license.

[beegeezee505]

@SheyOneTen Yeah that's the right idea! Comply with everything the government says and you'll never get hurt! They never abuse their power! It's all for the good of the people! (Sarcasm)

[csgforme]

@SheyOneTen

Haha... exactly. Don't forget the $375 fee for the "Citizens who give a damn" evaluation.  Thats the one where they look for all your alterior motives, because noone, except the government, sincerely cares for their community.

[adamitshelanu]

My guess is that the Chief is being paid under the table by the bar owners...or that he is a charter member of the ACLU.

[XCritonX]

How dare children learn about capitalism.

How dare good people help to prevent drunk drivers from causing accidents and killing innocent people.

Some times the government is just ridiculous.

BTW: Is it illegal to car pool if my friends give me a few bucks for gas???

[beegeezee505]

@XCritonX Yes it is totally illegal to accept gas money. The only appropriate response is to swat team your house and cuff your entire family. You must understand, this is for the safety of your neighbors.

[anarchylogic]

The problem is that the cities all over regulate the hell out of the taxi industry and crush them with fines for not paying (bribing) the city. A "shuttle" seems harmless and it is, AS LONG AS THE TAXI COMPANIES ARE NOT BEING TAXED AND REGULATED TO DEATH. If the cities kept their hands OFF all the industries then it's a level playing field, but if you regulate you have to protect. This is why it's much better to just leave everyone alone, taxi or shuttle.

[Krampfarsch]

@anarchylogic 100% agree

[2bRealist]

What a cop did in Spokane WA. -> /watch?v=hB0Ecd_Ndx0

[Panpiper]

The set up a sting!? That means they deliberately went out of their way, and planned to bring this 'felon' to justice. Clearly this is the most egregious violator out there, such that nothing else could have been a better use of their time.

I dare say that if this is the best they can do with their time, they have too much of it and their budget needs to be seriously cut back. That means layoffs of course. Starting with this bureaucrat.

[xp19375]

How is a taxi driver taking tips even remotely a bad thing?

[Infantry9]

Great Nanny of the Month video. The Nanny of the Month is probably my favorite type of ReasonTV videos. It's amazing how there are folks in the government (federal, state, and local) that will do anything to undermine personal choice and even individual achievement.

[jp3711nc1]

you have to watch out for those lemonade stands they can be so tricky what bull.

[kamikazee55]

@ryguy122189 Would you defend a hitman just because it was his 'job' to kill? THEY ARE NOT GOOD PEOPLE. THEY KNOWINGLY SIGN UP FOR A JOB THAT IS IMMORAL. If you want to find a corrupt policeman just pick any one of them.

They should all be killed. Any policeman that has given a speeding ticket should be killed, let alone some of this crazier shit. They are worse than any criminal. And you are one sick fuck for defending them. They sign up for a job that commits injustice. Knowingly.

[nonantianarchist]

Good God, you'd think given the bullshit they push to deter people from drunk driving that they'd welcome someone who reduced the number of drunk drivers. Apparently not, though.

[kamikazee55]

@nonantianarchist They make their $ off people breaking the law. Quotas and things to worry about.

[DuaneEH]

Rather than pointing the finger at those tasked with enforcing the law, you should be highlighting the stupidity of the "Nanny-state" laws themselves.

[eiffuy]

@DuaneEH Yes, but the people enforcing the law have ability to know when a law is ridiculous and should be ignored. For example, should a cop stand on street corners busting jay-walkers left and right, when no harm is done to anyone?

It should be absolutely obvious why shutting down a free-ride bus that accepted donations is crazy. There should be no need to go at length as to why thats a bad idea.

[schmij8]

@eiffuy Sorry, I agree with DuaneEH. Laws are laws, and the police are there to enforce them. If you don't like the law, change it through the legislature, even ridiculous laws like this one.

Once you start leaving laws up to the enforcer's opinion, you go down a dangerous path. What if a cop thinks burning a parent burning their kid's hand is okay and doesn't think it's necessary to arrest them? That's the kind of thing you could end up with.

[Gyrode]

@schmij8 Your hypothetical is actually moot. Have you SEEN how thick state law books are? let alone federal laws, simply pertaining to traffic?? Almost EVERY cop could be dismissed on not enforcing all those technicalities!

[beegeezee505]

@schmij8 Cops already have the ability to selectively enforce. Take something as basic as speeding tickets. They can give you a warning, they can let you off, they can ticket you, or they can drag you out of your car, beat you, taze you, shoot you, and claim that you assaulted them.

Now tell me again how you were planning to make things better with legislation?

[schmij8]

@beegeezee505 First of all, take it easy. You don't get points for being a tough guy on YouTube.

The point is that if the cops do decide to write out a speeding ticket, they don't get the backlash like they do for enforcing this law. That's their job, to enforce the law. If you don't like the law, you can't change it by telling cops not to enforce it. As someone who follows a libertarian magazine, I would assume you have respect for the rule of law, yes?

[Malthus0]

@schmij8 The 'law' is not the same as the 'rule of law'. The legislature can pass any act it likes but that does not mean it is in fact law.

[rdhayes06]

@ryguy122189 There is good science to back up the personality types attracted to law enforcement. I recommend JOSE M. CORTINA, and L L TIFFT, who have written on this subject. It is the same theory based out of abnormal behavior in labor. Where people will drift toward positions where there abnormal behavior can be most frequently expressed. An example: a pedophile becoming a youth minister because it allows he/she to be close to adolescents.

[TiaSaysSo]

@rdhayes06

Hey ,would you please give me the name of the book or journal paper authored by cortina or tifft regarding personality types and the jobs they choose?Thanks.

[corenothing]

Reason vids are almost always too quiet

[kamikazee55]

Fuck the police. They should all be killed. Bunch of ugly fucks that got bullied as kids and now think they are so powerful. Every time I hear about a cop getting killed I feel a little bit better about this country.

[joshpnw]

Power should NOT be given to certain people.

I recall an incident earlier this summer where I parked in an empty parking lot on a Sunday to eat lunch. The only shaded spot was in a handicapped parking spot. (again, empty lot - closed on Sunday) and an old retired 'community officer' came over and wrote me a ticket... which I had dismissed in court by a reasonable judge.

Power in the hands of some is just trouble waiting to happen.

[intrascoobz]

We would be wise to busy ourselves becoming busy bodies & study the origins of a corrupt system which uses it's law enforcement agencies to protect the corrupt working within the 'rules of law' of an Unholy Toledo system. Political parties with their corrupt system in charge of monitoring , targeting and aiming microwave frequencies to keep the masses in a slumber bummer "oh woe is me , whatever do I do?" mentality. Worldwide , we're known as a nation that doesn't punish real crime & injustice.

[neonshoji]

Gee, I'm sure this has nothing to do with the revenue generated from DUI busts. Sickening.

[NARCOPOLO76]

@neonshoji Thats was my first thought too.

[nick10463]

This is the end of our country as we knew it...

[arbide2]

What the fuck? There is maybe a lot more of a back story to explain why they stopped him from providing that service. Never accept what is reported until you have heard the whole story.

[nick10463]

@arbide2 said: "Never accept what is reported until you have heard the whole story."

WTF is wrong with you? You did hear the whole story!

He was giving ride home to drunk drivers and accepted tips instead of tariff charges. City saw it as an attack on their tax paying taxi businesses and kick his ass! Authorities don't like the competition.

It's all about money, that's all. What didn't you understand?

[residentzombie]

@nick10463 As Ron Paul's sign on his desk says: "Don't steal the government hates competition"

[arbide2]

@nick10463

I am not saying that the whole story is not here, only that MAYBE the whole story is not here.

[nick10463]

@arbide2 said: "only that MAYBE the whole story is not here."

The "whole" story is: Govt don't like inventive competitors. Period.

The guy tried to stiff police out of their drunk drivers tickets income - they sting him.

Do you understand now?

[arbide2]

@nick10463

You accept this very, very, very short piece as being the whole story because you want it to be.

[mosquewatcher]

What a complete and total fool this "Chief of police".

[CrimsonEdge38]

I don't even know what to say.