These drills should be a mandatory practice my glock 30 failed only once a simple and reactive tap and rack saved the day federal bought me several hundred rounds for the one that failed in my time of need
I wan't planning on responding to this, but it just amazes me at how ignorant these people are. The guy isn't saying that the gun should feed spent brass, he is using it to intentionally cause a malfunction. The point he is making in the video is that the Glock was generally easier to clear with this particular malfunction during this test. (Keep in mind, these results could change with different calibers and different models of the weapons.)
I'm an XD guy, but I'm not mad at all, I'm curious about the drill. Are you loading empty brass in the magazine, and the empty brass chambers when it gets to the top of the mag?
Decent video. I own a 5" XD .40 Lovely weapon. I've shot 1200 rounds through it with only 4 FTFs, and that was using shitty MBI reman./reload ammo. In practice, actually very easy to clear. 3 cleared with Tap and Rack, and on one I had to eject mag, rack slide to eject dud round, reload mag. Don't let this deter you from owning an XD.
Its sad to see so many gun owners not getting the point here... Hey thank you for taking the time to help remind us to train train and train some more :) good work fella's Mr5point56
I understand malfunction drills. Take 10 XD's and 10 Glocks then test all 20. Then post the results. One of my XD's functioned flawlessly the other did not. My Glocks have all been the same near perfect. I do think Springfield has quality control issues.
I'm a XD guy and no, what you said and showed did not piss me off lol. With my XD9 and cannot replicate the Type II malfunctions you were getting. I wish I could as my malf drills would be "real world", you never know if a malf is going to be a strip and rip or a tap rack bang until you get one in the field or at the range. The guns ability to feed a fired shell doesn't really mean anything unless you and doing drills anyways, you're never going to put empty brass into a mag for duty carry.
So you can get repeatable useful drills with an XD and not the Glock. Everyone should be doing these strip and rips as part of tap rack bang drills. A simple tap rack all the time is going to set you up for getting focus locked on the wrong failure fix.
problems with seating spent casings have nothing to due with reliability. my sks will not seat spent casings and that thing with its original 10 round internal mag, has never jammed.
I find this video very interesting, I have an XD 40 4 inch, i carry for duty use, when I qual we have to do the same drill, I have never had this happen, even into shooting a n S load of rounds through it. I guess it varies from person to person
I second the idea that the XD has more extractor tension. It also has the additional hook of the "loaded chamber indicator " at the top of the ejection port that the fired case is presented to at a wrong feed angle. The problem you seem to be having is "My malfunction simulation is having a malfunction" I think the use of dummy rounds will solve the "malfunction". Neither weapon is designed or intended to feed fired brass- so we shouldn't be surprised when they don't.
1st- stop dropping the F-bomb it makes you sound ignorant and unprofessional.2nd- stop dropping the mag onto the deck and into the dirt where you then must bend over, take eyes off threat area and look for it. It never lands in the same place/ position twice. In a real engagement you will likely be moving, you will kick it w/ your foot and in the dark you will likely NEVER get to it.3rd- Hold mag in support hand fingers or place in pants pocket or belt to free up hand(s) to clear malfunction.
i dont think many people understood this video. I think either way now you know what to use when you want to go into remedial action just used spent brass in an xd...good training
to sum it up, if your doing dry fire drills with an XD, an empty brass will cause more problems, and you should use the SnapCaps, But either way when a weapon is loaded im sure your never going to put in an empty casing on PURPOSE and intend to SHOOT someone/thing with it. he was just stating somethign he found incase anyone uses empty brass for that drill is my guess.
If your just using random unsized brass the pistol with the larger chamber,yes they do very from pistol to pistol,will be more forgiving.Make a cast of both chambers bet the glock is more over size,and you could probably get the opposite results with two different pistols.
@Frankdude72 Is it damaging to your pistol in any way when you do malfunction drills? I figured if you keep getting double feeds and stovepipe jams in your piece that it would ruin it. I want to do some of these drills but I'm just afraid of fucking up my shit permanently, ya know?
The reason you get the stoppage with the empty brass is the extractor on the XD is at a higher tension than the Glock extractor. It's not designed to ride over an empty case like that, so when it does it "fools" the gun into thinking that it's empty.
Wow -- who would have thought. Thanks for pointing this out. Aside from the training (intentional malfunctions), it seems that an real malf. might be a bit more work to clear from the XD, no? Do you think this has anything to do with lesser support in the glock chamber? Thanks again for posting this.
Since there are some slow folks out there...the guns are not jamming, it's an intentional misfire drill. Both Glock and XD are very reliable, both will do a couple hundred rounds without cleaning before any jams, and I can't think of any situation where you'd put 200 rnds through a backup weapon in a single engagement.
There are a few reasons not to train with empty brass. For one, it's not a realistic scenario in the field, second, doing so can stress out your extractor and/or lodge the brass deep inside the chamber. Mag spring pressure can also push the mouth of the cartridge up and bend the feed lips of the mag during cycling. Spend the money on the Snap Caps.
bddc201 hit it. I'm not sure why the author chose to use empty brass, but I would highly recommend spending the money on Snap Caps.
I like my XD's, and I've never had an issue like the one the author described with the ammo I use or running drills with my Snap Caps.
Personally, I wasn't even aware people used empty brass for training. I guess necessity is the mother of invention, but the caps aren't all that expensive, all things considered.
For a cross section of what variety of comments are going to be made on this video: we've reached critical mass.
Henceforth, I will only allow the comments of the people commenting who understand how to set up malfunction drills to train to.
If your comment is: Glock rocks/sucks OR XD rocks/sucks OR Brand X rocks/sucks, it will not be posted. That's NOT what this video is about. So don't bother.
Again, only the 5-10% who understand this video get their comments posted.
Why in all of these videos does this guy instruct to drop the magazines in the dirt? And this cat is too "Captain America". He is not credible stating a Kahr to be a POS...especially when shooting a Glock?
Also sounds like some weak 180-ish grain ammo in the XD and some heftier 230-ish grain in the glock. but hey, my opinion means about as much as this video,...Love you still!
I own a S.A. XD .45 and I've ONLY seen this happen with 185 grain bullets. I am currently using on a consistant basis Winchester 235 grain ammo and have had ZERO problems. I've shot off OVER 300 rounds and have still had ZERO ISSUES! Just my experience. My friend owns a Glock 22 .40 cal. and neither of us are impressed by it.
Side by side comparison I'm a continuing user and abuser of my S.A. XD. Love you!
well if its better than a glock u shouldnt have to worry bout that right? every1 loves aks right? plain and simple glock is the ak of pistols end of story.
dude first of all what kinda ammo are you shootin? cause your gun shouldn't jam every second shot, and when the hell was the last time you cleaned either one of those things? I wanna know why the guns jam so much? XD rules anyway mine aint jammed on my once.. Glocks are gay
At 2:20 he says taht who the f*** knows why the XD has to tap rack bang bc if you notice the guy firing the XD lightly taps barely the bottom of the gun, the glock guy beats the shit out of the bottom of that glock boldy hits the bottom of the glock really hard the yelling guy give a glancing blow to the mag and immediately drops the mag. Another uneducated glock owner who wants to prove his glock is better than anything out there.
"this is probally gonna piss off the xd folks" lol i own a xd40 but i appreciate the video anyway. my friend has a glock 22 .40 and were always comparing mine and his. i simply just like the safetys on my xd over his glock. id rather have dual safetys and a bolt loaded and chambered sight. either way when im carrying on the street and someone pulls a gun on me im not gonna tap, rack, and bang.....im just gonna bang lol nice video keep the help coming
Hey...check out the Taurus's 24/7 action.....let me try to kind of explain what it does and you can check it out yourself but when your xd or glock misfires you cant repull the trigger with a cocked firing pin to try to ignite the misfired primer..with the 24/7 you can pull all day on the same round if that round fails all you have to do is just the rack step to rack the old one out and the new one in...make any sense..damn i wish i still had it cuz i could show you on a video...but i hope it is
I myself don't value a pistol that allows you to pull the trigger again. I personally prefer manipulation drills where, under stressful situations, you don't have to consider the brand of weapon and act accordingly; but instead, just initiate the immediate action that works no matter what type of pistol you are firing.
A fired casing expands, the chamber in a xd 45 has tighter tolerance than that in a glock 21, thus requiring more force for extraction, or no extraction w/ broken rim.
My experience with snap caps is they always feed, (like they're supposed to), meaning you can always tap-rack out of the stoppage.
I think you're onto something. Randomly interspersing snap caps and empty brass (especially on the XD) will lead to a more varied malfunction drill, without having to bother manually setting up a Type II malfunction.
i see what you are really testing and i understand. as long as the spent brasses are consistent in deformity and the glock and springfield are clean and serene, i would say myth busted
could it be because the empty brass does no thave a bullet that helps it guide into the chamber? Try doing the same thing but remove the powder and strike the primer before putting it in the gun.
I have never had this problem with my XD-9 V 10 ported or my XD-40. I have had this problem with my Glock 21. I do prefer the XD to the glock though (just a personal preference). Both are extremely reliable weapons.
It may actually be a good thing. It reinforces a full action clear procedure. Otherwise in real life 99.9 well maybe 99.8% of folks who carry should know better than to stick spent shells in their firearm during carry.
You think thats bad? My XD9 wont even feed the Reeses Pieces I try to cram in there while shooting...What a useless/test argument...(for the record, I dont even like my XD...but this video is pretty pointless).
Hey guys, great video. I have been looking at the G27 vs SA-XD40 SC and I now know what everybody else seemed to have missed. Empty casing doesn't load well in XDs. Thanks for the tip, I am one who would definitely use empty brass in a crunch. Now I know not to. Maybe they didn't listen to your comments.
My uncle has one, and my Glock 19 out-performs the XD, in accuracy and DEFINITELY reliability. I swear I've never had a jam and I've owned it for almost a year now
That's good to know in case I ever load a live round and then an empty round and then a live round when I'm loading up my XD. Just got a G21SF yesterday, it's ok, but it's no XD.
It jams because you have an empty round...The curveture of the bullet helps it up the chambering ramp when it reloads...if you don't have that then wtf? btw...buzman you are ignorant for saying XDs are terrible pistols...they are excellent pistols and built better than a glock...safer too! Look at Burress if you want to argue they are not safer.
I own both & I only carry the Glock at work because I have but soon as I'm off duty I strap on MY Springfield XD.Oh well, to each their own...But in the future make sure your opinion is fact & not just an assumption.
Thanks! I will recommend your video. It is well done. If you add a stovepipe demo, that will be great too. Just ignore the couch commandoes. They are a sad bunch.
Duh! of course an empty cartage will cause a malfuntion. Everyone is getting their undies in a bundle over it. I think it is a great practice drill. Just look at it as practice. That is it. How many people do you know that put an empty cartage in their magazine? It is just practice my friends.
I'm willing to bet its because the xDs feed ramp isn't shaped to handle something with an exposed and hollow rim on it (like spent brass). Like trying to play basketball with horseshoes. They're gonna get hung up.
I figure its the ramp because I remember that I owned a Llama 1911 once. I kept having these awful feed malfunctions. I ended up having to take a dremel to the feed ramp of the thing to smooth it out.
My buddys and I (Washington state patrol) we throw our Glocks awayt and went to the 1911 and the XD .45 for a backup! F@#! the Glocks my old partner died from a internal pice failing on him never trust your life to a glock!
The xd barrel is ramped wich has better feeding then non ramped, Who the fuck do you think you are Typing sounds like horse shit to me? You wern't their were you? No, Then shut the fuck up you faggot ass Nigger!
first off you are such a dumb ass, and second the xd never fucking jams, so you don't have to clear it... i hope you drop the fucking glock and it goes off and shoots you in the knee, xd all the way
Every gun jams, the XD just does it less often. I own Glocks and I've never had a round jam in 1,000+ rounds, but that doesn't mean that it will never jam.
BTW, what's the deal with all of the Glock Vs. XD crap? They are both excellent pistols, I just like the grip angle and proven history and reliability of the Glock. To each is own. I would trust my life with both of them.
Its called Tap Rack Ready or Tap Rack Re-access. Once you are ready for the threat or Re-access the threat then you can go bang if you can articulate the threat.
2) when you are conducting a level two drill
Lock Rip Work, Tap Rack Ready.
You should not be dropping your magazine on the floor, and you should not be securing the magazine with the hand used to work the slide.
Not sure who taught you guys.. may be time for a refresher course.
BTW, ppl watching this. Firearms Tactics is technically more up to date in his terminology. (Tap, Rack, Reassess). Just look at Clint Smith's video on this.
I was, however, using terms that are still more widely bandied about in the shooting community's vernacular.
maybe that's what you learned at your local NRA/civilian course. "Tap Rack Ready"? wtf, if you want to be super accurate it is "Immediate Action" and "Remedial Action".
if you have a malfunction and need to clear a jam that means you pulled the trigger, therefore you are shooting something. Most likely it will still need shooting.
"Tap rack bang" is just a mnemonic device for Immediate action and is applicable. Take it from the best Infantry Riflemen in the world.
haha nice discovery. I wouldn't ever use just a piece of brass in my guns. It would be more realistic to use snap caps because they have a bullet on them. I wouldn't think any gun would feed properly with out a bullet. the feed ramp would be too steep
Apparently what it means is people get so emotional they don't pay attention to the video.
All this video is is an awareness notice when using "poor man's snap caps" to practice immediate action drills.
But 9 out of 10 want to turn it into a pissing contest. See what y'all wanna see. So far I've only come across 2 commentators on all the fourms who even understand the point of this video.
Yeah, I'm sure they would, considering I didn't let this ruin my weekend like someone else did.
Or is obsession considered healthy now?
I know this is going to be another blow to your sensitive ego, but you're not important enough to make me angry. Sorry to burst your bubble and all, but facts are facts.
I'll simplify you message for you: If you're going to play around with $1000 worth of guns, skip the "poor man's" crap and spend $5 on some proper gear. Cheep gear gets cheep results.
No, the Glock did it once. The XD did it most everytime. The Glock only had to have the mag removed for clearance the first time, every other time tapping the mag and racking the slide allowed it to fire. The XD required stripping the mag out, then working the slide to clear it then inserting the mag. Watch again and look at the difference.
The .45 Glocks have about the same amount of chamber support as most other .45s. At least the newer ones do. It was the older .40 S&W that had much less support than is the norm.
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multigta101 1 week ago
These drills should be a mandatory practice my glock 30 failed only once a simple and reactive tap and rack saved the day federal bought me several hundred rounds for the one that failed in my time of need
fpssilentfox 3 months ago
I wan't planning on responding to this, but it just amazes me at how ignorant these people are. The guy isn't saying that the gun should feed spent brass, he is using it to intentionally cause a malfunction. The point he is making in the video is that the Glock was generally easier to clear with this particular malfunction during this test. (Keep in mind, these results could change with different calibers and different models of the weapons.)
huskey11 5 months ago
@huskey11 Good Comment.
You are one of the chosen few who get the point.
(And if you think those comments were ignorant, you should see some of the ones that didn't get approved ;-) )
Frankdude72 5 months ago
@Frankdude72 Whatever dude don't listen to these trolls, it was a good, informative vid, keep it up!
CAgunNut 4 months ago
I'm an XD guy, but I'm not mad at all, I'm curious about the drill. Are you loading empty brass in the magazine, and the empty brass chambers when it gets to the top of the mag?
flattenedaffect 6 months ago
@flattenedaffect Yes
Frankdude72 6 days ago
Decent video. I own a 5" XD .40 Lovely weapon. I've shot 1200 rounds through it with only 4 FTFs, and that was using shitty MBI reman./reload ammo. In practice, actually very easy to clear. 3 cleared with Tap and Rack, and on one I had to eject mag, rack slide to eject dud round, reload mag. Don't let this deter you from owning an XD.
bradleywalters1 7 months ago
Focus on stopping the threat ,the rest will work itself out! Stay SAFE!
HerbWalker 9 months ago
that shirts says looking for a japanese girlfriend
TheGTHGl0bal 9 months ago
"tell you what.. ahh, fuckin A"
classic
cubs3145 9 months ago
I have that Japanese shirt :).
LotusDragon09 9 months ago
Its sad to see so many gun owners not getting the point here... Hey thank you for taking the time to help remind us to train train and train some more :) good work fella's Mr5point56
Mr5point56 10 months ago
I understand malfunction drills. Take 10 XD's and 10 Glocks then test all 20. Then post the results. One of my XD's functioned flawlessly the other did not. My Glocks have all been the same near perfect. I do think Springfield has quality control issues.
40RLH 10 months ago
I'm a XD guy and no, what you said and showed did not piss me off lol. With my XD9 and cannot replicate the Type II malfunctions you were getting. I wish I could as my malf drills would be "real world", you never know if a malf is going to be a strip and rip or a tap rack bang until you get one in the field or at the range. The guns ability to feed a fired shell doesn't really mean anything unless you and doing drills anyways, you're never going to put empty brass into a mag for duty carry.
EddieTreat 11 months ago
So you can get repeatable useful drills with an XD and not the Glock. Everyone should be doing these strip and rips as part of tap rack bang drills. A simple tap rack all the time is going to set you up for getting focus locked on the wrong failure fix.
ohioleadslinger 1 year ago 4
@ohioleadslinger Cool, someone who watched the video and understood the intent.
You're a rare one. =)
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mrblueagian 1 year ago
good training video! looks like its better to use snap caps.
944lucifer 1 year ago
problems with seating spent casings have nothing to due with reliability. my sks will not seat spent casings and that thing with its original 10 round internal mag, has never jammed.
Alexn1067 1 year ago
@Alexn1067 You're making the same mistake that everyone else who doesn't get their boneheaded comments approved makes.
The video is about how the empty casings affect malfunction drill training.
On the Glock 21 you get both Type I and Type II malfs.
On the XD in .45 ACP you only get Type II malfs
We're deliberately setting up stoppages to train to clear them.
And in case you believe "I don't need to train that cuz mah gun neva jamz"... *rolls eyes*
All guns jam. Train to clear them.
Frankdude72 1 year ago 8
I find this video very interesting, I have an XD 40 4 inch, i carry for duty use, when I qual we have to do the same drill, I have never had this happen, even into shooting a n S load of rounds through it. I guess it varies from person to person
Renta1Cop 1 year ago
Thanks for the video...you have reminded me of the need to practice my malfunction drills.
misterjosephfloyd 2 years ago
Tap,rack ,bang & RELOAD! solve 90 % of malfunctions. Good video- no disrespect intended in my comments. Just my 2 c
sbd45acp 2 years ago
I second the idea that the XD has more extractor tension. It also has the additional hook of the "loaded chamber indicator " at the top of the ejection port that the fired case is presented to at a wrong feed angle. The problem you seem to be having is "My malfunction simulation is having a malfunction" I think the use of dummy rounds will solve the "malfunction". Neither weapon is designed or intended to feed fired brass- so we shouldn't be surprised when they don't.
sbd45acp 2 years ago 3
1st- stop dropping the F-bomb it makes you sound ignorant and unprofessional.2nd- stop dropping the mag onto the deck and into the dirt where you then must bend over, take eyes off threat area and look for it. It never lands in the same place/ position twice. In a real engagement you will likely be moving, you will kick it w/ your foot and in the dark you will likely NEVER get to it.3rd- Hold mag in support hand fingers or place in pants pocket or belt to free up hand(s) to clear malfunction.
sbd45acp 2 years ago
i dont think many people understood this video. I think either way now you know what to use when you want to go into remedial action just used spent brass in an xd...good training
robo8148 2 years ago
to sum it up, if your doing dry fire drills with an XD, an empty brass will cause more problems, and you should use the SnapCaps, But either way when a weapon is loaded im sure your never going to put in an empty casing on PURPOSE and intend to SHOOT someone/thing with it. he was just stating somethign he found incase anyone uses empty brass for that drill is my guess.
EpioneEQ 2 years ago
Bingo!
You get a gold star.
Frankdude72 2 years ago
If your just using random unsized brass the pistol with the larger chamber,yes they do very from pistol to pistol,will be more forgiving.Make a cast of both chambers bet the glock is more over size,and you could probably get the opposite results with two different pistols.
m1garand1959 2 years ago 4
Thanks Frank.
paulsworld07 2 years ago
Ok what the hell is a snap cap and specifically what are the pros and cons of it. Just like to know before I dump some money on it.
paulsworld07 2 years ago
A Snap Cap is a dummy round designed so you can safely perform multiple dry-fires, along with other drills.
A-Zoom makes the best quality ones. Google A-Zoom snap caps.
Frankdude72 2 years ago
@Frankdude72 Is it damaging to your pistol in any way when you do malfunction drills? I figured if you keep getting double feeds and stovepipe jams in your piece that it would ruin it. I want to do some of these drills but I'm just afraid of fucking up my shit permanently, ya know?
theshawnz64 2 years ago
We used empty brass at Thunder Ranch for these drills, which is where I got the bright idea for it.
Read some of the more intelligent comments below and empty brass will start not sounding like a great idea.
In truth, you'll be best served with A-Zoom Snap Caps. Just lay a poncho down near where they'll eject so you don't fish for them.
If you make your Type 2 Malf remedy always a reload, then you can simulate the drill by just varying the amount of ammo in your mag.
Frankdude72 2 years ago
The reason you get the stoppage with the empty brass is the extractor on the XD is at a higher tension than the Glock extractor. It's not designed to ride over an empty case like that, so when it does it "fools" the gun into thinking that it's empty.
NRAhab 2 years ago 27
Wow -- who would have thought. Thanks for pointing this out. Aside from the training (intentional malfunctions), it seems that an real malf. might be a bit more work to clear from the XD, no? Do you think this has anything to do with lesser support in the glock chamber? Thanks again for posting this.
tomcat017 2 years ago
Thanks for your comment, as you honestly got the point of the video. (Which is why yours is approved.)
Honestly, I don't have enough technical knowledge to say why XD does Type 2 malfs every time and the Grock only about 1/2.
But truthfully, with proper training, clearing stoppages on each brand can be done in the same manner, with the same ease.
Frankdude72 2 years ago
Since there are some slow folks out there...the guns are not jamming, it's an intentional misfire drill. Both Glock and XD are very reliable, both will do a couple hundred rounds without cleaning before any jams, and I can't think of any situation where you'd put 200 rnds through a backup weapon in a single engagement.
fs2kshooter 2 years ago 4
There are a few reasons not to train with empty brass. For one, it's not a realistic scenario in the field, second, doing so can stress out your extractor and/or lodge the brass deep inside the chamber. Mag spring pressure can also push the mouth of the cartridge up and bend the feed lips of the mag during cycling. Spend the money on the Snap Caps.
bddc201 2 years ago 7
Even though I don't 100% agree with your opinion, it was well presented, well delivered, civil, and brings up some very valid points.
People wishing to have their comments approved on this video should emulate the manner and content in which bddc201 commented.
Frankdude72 2 years ago
bddc201 hit it. I'm not sure why the author chose to use empty brass, but I would highly recommend spending the money on Snap Caps.
I like my XD's, and I've never had an issue like the one the author described with the ammo I use or running drills with my Snap Caps.
Personally, I wasn't even aware people used empty brass for training. I guess necessity is the mother of invention, but the caps aren't all that expensive, all things considered.
tdi2010 2 years ago
For a cross section of what variety of comments are going to be made on this video: we've reached critical mass.
Henceforth, I will only allow the comments of the people commenting who understand how to set up malfunction drills to train to.
If your comment is: Glock rocks/sucks OR XD rocks/sucks OR Brand X rocks/sucks, it will not be posted. That's NOT what this video is about. So don't bother.
Again, only the 5-10% who understand this video get their comments posted.
Frankdude72 2 years ago
Why in all of these videos does this guy instruct to drop the magazines in the dirt? And this cat is too "Captain America". He is not credible stating a Kahr to be a POS...especially when shooting a Glock?
Jtb0922 2 years ago
Man, I'm getting a kick out of this guy.
I'm "Captain America" yet wearing an IDF cap. Brilliant. =D
Frankdude72 2 years ago
And "Captain America" while shooting Austrian and Croatian guns while my friend has a shirt on in Japanese.
Irony anyone?
Frankdude72 2 years ago
I'll give Jtb his due. At least his angry rants contained words spelled correctly and he can actually string sentences together coherently.
He's a cut above 90% of the of the angry internet commentators out there.
Frankdude72 2 years ago
Also sounds like some weak 180-ish grain ammo in the XD and some heftier 230-ish grain in the glock. but hey, my opinion means about as much as this video,...Love you still!
BigLarryT 3 years ago
I own a S.A. XD .45 and I've ONLY seen this happen with 185 grain bullets. I am currently using on a consistant basis Winchester 235 grain ammo and have had ZERO problems. I've shot off OVER 300 rounds and have still had ZERO ISSUES! Just my experience. My friend owns a Glock 22 .40 cal. and neither of us are impressed by it.
Side by side comparison I'm a continuing user and abuser of my S.A. XD. Love you!
BigLarryT 3 years ago
I have a xdm. Deff alot better then GLOCK! glocks r so shitty were giving them away to iraqi's! giving! yes away!
2nd, why would you load the mag with a empty round any way jackass!
g3seifert 3 years ago
clean the xd damn I never had a jam
Mex5650 3 years ago
well if its better than a glock u shouldnt have to worry bout that right? every1 loves aks right? plain and simple glock is the ak of pistols end of story.
stewpidaso26 3 years ago 2
dude first of all what kinda ammo are you shootin? cause your gun shouldn't jam every second shot, and when the hell was the last time you cleaned either one of those things? I wanna know why the guns jam so much? XD rules anyway mine aint jammed on my once.. Glocks are gay
highspeeda1c 3 years ago
Glocks are just as good as XD's, I despised Glocks until I purchased one. Now I carry it more than my XD's.
aaron0313 3 years ago
This doesn't prove anything! What a waste of my time. You guys owe me 2:39 minutes of my life back!!! LONG LIVE SPRINGFIELD XD'S.
dmaihori 3 years ago
At 2:20 he says taht who the f*** knows why the XD has to tap rack bang bc if you notice the guy firing the XD lightly taps barely the bottom of the gun, the glock guy beats the shit out of the bottom of that glock boldy hits the bottom of the glock really hard the yelling guy give a glancing blow to the mag and immediately drops the mag. Another uneducated glock owner who wants to prove his glock is better than anything out there.
buschiew300zx 3 years ago 2
The .45 is too big of a caliber to fit inside a small gun, so I think thats why it jams. Please no flaming, I don't check back on these comments.
GalilxG3 3 years ago
probably sabotaged the guns to get the effect they wanted. Or its the only gun that has that problem.
Pilarden 3 years ago
I don't see how this proves anything. At what point will I be loading empty, used brass into my gun while in a situation where I need to shoot?
1997ss 3 years ago 2
I totally agree and I have never had a gun that fed empty brass.
LivesForGod 3 years ago 2
"this is probally gonna piss off the xd folks" lol i own a xd40 but i appreciate the video anyway. my friend has a glock 22 .40 and were always comparing mine and his. i simply just like the safetys on my xd over his glock. id rather have dual safetys and a bolt loaded and chambered sight. either way when im carrying on the street and someone pulls a gun on me im not gonna tap, rack, and bang.....im just gonna bang lol nice video keep the help coming
KevinBoosted 3 years ago 2
Hey...check out the Taurus's 24/7 action.....let me try to kind of explain what it does and you can check it out yourself but when your xd or glock misfires you cant repull the trigger with a cocked firing pin to try to ignite the misfired primer..with the 24/7 you can pull all day on the same round if that round fails all you have to do is just the rack step to rack the old one out and the new one in...make any sense..damn i wish i still had it cuz i could show you on a video...but i hope it is
hawk7900 3 years ago
Thank you for your comment.
I myself don't value a pistol that allows you to pull the trigger again. I personally prefer manipulation drills where, under stressful situations, you don't have to consider the brand of weapon and act accordingly; but instead, just initiate the immediate action that works no matter what type of pistol you are firing.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
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hawk7900 3 years ago
very good vid thanks Glock rules
jrood369 3 years ago
Hey good vid guys! Thanks for the info.
lkr123456 3 years ago
A fired casing expands, the chamber in a xd 45 has tighter tolerance than that in a glock 21, thus requiring more force for extraction, or no extraction w/ broken rim.
adolfhilter 3 years ago 3
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takayoshikane 3 years ago 2
wtf?
Eric3575 3 years ago
Thanks for the information. Was not so clear at first but I got the point at the end.
I think it would be fun to use both snap caps and mt brass would give you both type of stoppages.
robertm177 3 years ago
Cool, thanks for the comment.
My experience with snap caps is they always feed, (like they're supposed to), meaning you can always tap-rack out of the stoppage.
I think you're onto something. Randomly interspersing snap caps and empty brass (especially on the XD) will lead to a more varied malfunction drill, without having to bother manually setting up a Type II malfunction.
We may just try that.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
Fuckin-A, mother fucker, who the fuck knows why, use freekin snap caps...
sbs9026 3 years ago
so this is about not reloading empty shells in the clip with live bullets? or is it just showing you what to do if you have a jam?
drunkenmathematics 3 years ago
Choice B.
Malfunction Drills.
And if you use empty shells to induce the stoppage, what type of stoppage you can expect with each platform.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
i see what you are really testing and i understand. as long as the spent brasses are consistent in deformity and the glock and springfield are clean and serene, i would say myth busted
enseigne1 3 years ago
Not sure if that was sarcasm.
If you're being genuine, then you don't get the point of this video at all.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
could it be because the empty brass does no thave a bullet that helps it guide into the chamber? Try doing the same thing but remove the powder and strike the primer before putting it in the gun.
pingpong909 3 years ago
i stuck my cock in there and it did the same thing
bearsfan1294 3 years ago
ha ha ha...
12GaugeLosAngeles 3 years ago
I have never had this problem with my XD-9 V 10 ported or my XD-40. I have had this problem with my Glock 21. I do prefer the XD to the glock though (just a personal preference). Both are extremely reliable weapons.
Rook369 3 years ago
Just to be clear (again and again and again), neither pistol has a a "problem".
The empty brass is used to *deliberately* induce a stoppage.
The point being the XD in .45 here consistently ends up with a Type 2 malfunction.
The Glock 21, on the other hand, feeds the brass about 2 out of 3 times, giving you the random chance of a Type 1 or 2 Malfunction to clear.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
why were u droping the mag on the ground?
ruben7681 3 years ago
It may actually be a good thing. It reinforces a full action clear procedure. Otherwise in real life 99.9 well maybe 99.8% of folks who carry should know better than to stick spent shells in their firearm during carry.
Jules2950 3 years ago
Cool dude. You're among the 5-10 percent of viewers who actually comprehended what message the video was broadcasting. =)
Frankdude72 3 years ago
is it a good thing or a bad thing for the xd i was gone get a one next week this wud be my first
zone3sama 3 years ago
You think thats bad? My XD9 wont even feed the Reeses Pieces I try to cram in there while shooting...What a useless/test argument...(for the record, I dont even like my XD...but this video is pretty pointless).
617Ghost 3 years ago 4
I have had my xd 40 for 3 years and never had this problem. Neither has anyone else I have talked to.
Ghoststarks 3 years ago 2
good to know but that dont mean xd is a piece of shit at least the springfield xd .40 dont blow the fuck up in my hand like the glock .40
white90ss 3 years ago 3
Try different ammo.
caspernala2312 3 years ago
Go to Nutnfancy's videos for good info.
natureboypkr 3 years ago
Using empty brass will only get stuck on the feeding ramp. This is not a valid or reliable test for either pistol.
natureboypkr 3 years ago
By the way if you own a Glock try the 3.5lb trigger. It's cheap and is alot better than stock.
yloiron 3 years ago
I owned both Glock and XD. Got rid of the XD. If you own an XD and like it good for you. I had the Glock first. Still have the Glock.
yloiron 3 years ago
I do own one asshole, that's how I know. I had numerous problems I ended up buying a Glock 21 SF.
buzman1985 3 years ago
Hey guys, great video. I have been looking at the G27 vs SA-XD40 SC and I now know what everybody else seemed to have missed. Empty casing doesn't load well in XDs. Thanks for the tip, I am one who would definitely use empty brass in a crunch. Now I know not to. Maybe they didn't listen to your comments.
Miamijunglist 3 years ago
By the way its tap, flip, rack, fire.
buzman1985 3 years ago
Fact all XDs are terrible pistols.
buzman1985 3 years ago
xd's are better than glocks, u obviously never owned one
bmxman37 3 years ago 2
My uncle has one, and my Glock 19 out-performs the XD, in accuracy and DEFINITELY reliability. I swear I've never had a jam and I've owned it for almost a year now
FRecon333 3 years ago
That's good to know in case I ever load a live round and then an empty round and then a live round when I'm loading up my XD. Just got a G21SF yesterday, it's ok, but it's no XD.
fskoti 3 years ago
I ended up having to take my GLOCK back because it came from the factory with a crack on the guide rail.
Perfection!
fskoti 3 years ago
Whats the point, why ae u using empty rounds? Dumb ass
MG42pillbox 3 years ago
It jams because you have an empty round...The curveture of the bullet helps it up the chambering ramp when it reloads...if you don't have that then wtf? btw...buzman you are ignorant for saying XDs are terrible pistols...they are excellent pistols and built better than a glock...safer too! Look at Burress if you want to argue they are not safer.
Travis94ZX 3 years ago
You grip is the problem of jam
ecmelectronica 3 years ago
Fact all XDs are terrible pistols.
buzman1985 3 years ago
I own both & I only carry the Glock at work because I have but soon as I'm off duty I strap on MY Springfield XD.Oh well, to each their own...But in the future make sure your opinion is fact & not just an assumption.
kastle1972 3 years ago
It either u are fucking drunk or stupid to put an empty cartrige just to know its knot going to work. Hell my fucking donkey can figure this out.
schmidtandbender 3 years ago
who the fuck has a donkey? fucking mexican.
xDIEHARDxUSMCx 3 years ago
The comedy of youtube comments is priceless. I love how the video gaming crowd thinks they know it all in the "youtube comments" section.
hitman1415 3 years ago
Nice vid, too.
bosskucera 3 years ago
I like the Japanese shirt. "Now accepting applications for Japanese girlfriends."
bosskucera 3 years ago
yes...the awesomely badass xd proved u rong so u had to make another excuse the 45 didnt go 2 rds!!!! the xd went 3 every time!!!!!
rcooper95 3 years ago
Thanks! I will recommend your video. It is well done. If you add a stovepipe demo, that will be great too. Just ignore the couch commandoes. They are a sad bunch.
Pradaplayer 3 years ago
Duh! of course an empty cartage will cause a malfuntion. Everyone is getting their undies in a bundle over it. I think it is a great practice drill. Just look at it as practice. That is it. How many people do you know that put an empty cartage in their magazine? It is just practice my friends.
Pradaplayer 3 years ago 2
Thanks Pradaplayer. You're one of the 5-10 percent of viewers who actually understood what we we're doing.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
These two inbreded fucks are trying to manipulate the video to put down the XD! Fuck off you red neck Motherfuckers!
ErichKopp1911 3 years ago 2
I was referring to you stating that you were a Washington State Trooper... which is pure bullshit.
Occrameq 3 years ago
I don't think this is a problem of the extractor.
I'm willing to bet its because the xDs feed ramp isn't shaped to handle something with an exposed and hollow rim on it (like spent brass). Like trying to play basketball with horseshoes. They're gonna get hung up.
I figure its the ramp because I remember that I owned a Llama 1911 once. I kept having these awful feed malfunctions. I ended up having to take a dremel to the feed ramp of the thing to smooth it out.
idespiseall 3 years ago
My buddys and I (Washington state patrol) we throw our Glocks awayt and went to the 1911 and the XD .45 for a backup! F@#! the Glocks my old partner died from a internal pice failing on him never trust your life to a glock!
ErichKopp1911 3 years ago
Sounds like horse shit to me!
Occrameq 3 years ago 3
The xd barrel is ramped wich has better feeding then non ramped, Who the fuck do you think you are Typing sounds like horse shit to me? You wern't their were you? No, Then shut the fuck up you faggot ass Nigger!
ErichKopp1911 3 years ago
first off you are such a dumb ass, and second the xd never fucking jams, so you don't have to clear it... i hope you drop the fucking glock and it goes off and shoots you in the knee, xd all the way
copperdog1987 3 years ago
Every gun jams, the XD just does it less often. I own Glocks and I've never had a round jam in 1,000+ rounds, but that doesn't mean that it will never jam.
BTW, what's the deal with all of the Glock Vs. XD crap? They are both excellent pistols, I just like the grip angle and proven history and reliability of the Glock. To each is own. I would trust my life with both of them.
arickard 3 years ago
I agree.
Ghoststarks 3 years ago
1) its not called a "Tap Rack Bang"
Its called Tap Rack Ready or Tap Rack Re-access. Once you are ready for the threat or Re-access the threat then you can go bang if you can articulate the threat.
2) when you are conducting a level two drill
Lock Rip Work, Tap Rack Ready.
You should not be dropping your magazine on the floor, and you should not be securing the magazine with the hand used to work the slide.
Not sure who taught you guys.. may be time for a refresher course.
FirearmsTactics 3 years ago 2
Depends on what school you go to as to what technique and what terminology you use.
Obviously you are endeared to a particular school's way of doing things (and jargon) and that's fine.
However, there is no Holy Grail technique that is "The Way".
Despite not completely seeing eye to eye, I think we agree more than disagree.
Feel free to make your own video showing how you believe any particular drill or technique should be properly performed.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
BTW, ppl watching this. Firearms Tactics is technically more up to date in his terminology. (Tap, Rack, Reassess). Just look at Clint Smith's video on this.
I was, however, using terms that are still more widely bandied about in the shooting community's vernacular.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
thanks Frank. and you are correct. Like an idiot I used Access.. which is horrible wrong, its assess as you pointed out.
FirearmsTactics 3 years ago
its called "Tap Rack and Bang" and "strip and rip" or just get the shit working again technique
TMHonfire 3 years ago
maybe that's what you learned at your local NRA/civilian course. "Tap Rack Ready"? wtf, if you want to be super accurate it is "Immediate Action" and "Remedial Action".
if you have a malfunction and need to clear a jam that means you pulled the trigger, therefore you are shooting something. Most likely it will still need shooting.
"Tap rack bang" is just a mnemonic device for Immediate action and is applicable. Take it from the best Infantry Riflemen in the world.
Prodigysportsman 3 years ago
haha nice discovery. I wouldn't ever use just a piece of brass in my guns. It would be more realistic to use snap caps because they have a bullet on them. I wouldn't think any gun would feed properly with out a bullet. the feed ramp would be too steep
lilwarrior427 3 years ago
Very informative video.....
mcgustocb4 3 years ago
No matter what I say, people ain't gettin' it. So I'll try a new tactic.
Fortunately for all the stewardesses out there, I speak Jive Ass Turkey.
Yo, I know you peeps be buggin', but why y'all all up in mah grill? It is what it is, yo. Ain't no need fo' hatin'.
Mack a self a pro, slick. Gray matter back I take farmer down when I TCBin'.
And you know what dey say, see a broad to get dat booty action, lay em dowm n smack em yack em. Ho gotz da beat. Sheet.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
The M&P does the exact same thing.
You know what that means? Nothing.
For the record, my USPc will load them reliably every time. Guess its time to ditch the Glock too, right?
tep0583 3 years ago
Apparently what it means is people get so emotional they don't pay attention to the video.
All this video is is an awareness notice when using "poor man's snap caps" to practice immediate action drills.
But 9 out of 10 want to turn it into a pissing contest. See what y'all wanna see. So far I've only come across 2 commentators on all the fourms who even understand the point of this video.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
YOU wanted to turn it into a pissing contest, or you wouldn't be running around to gun boards claiming to have "kicked over an anthill".
Congratulations, you taught us what many of us already know.
For the record, I own a Glock, an XD, and a USPc, so I have to pony in this race. I have no emotion invested in this whatsoever.
tep0583 3 years ago
Dude, again, emotion and seeing what you want to see vs. what is.
Maybe you and your buddies knew that certain firearms did this but not everybody on the map.
So really man, anger management classes will do you good.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
Yeah, I'm sure they would, considering I didn't let this ruin my weekend like someone else did.
Or is obsession considered healthy now?
I know this is going to be another blow to your sensitive ego, but you're not important enough to make me angry. Sorry to burst your bubble and all, but facts are facts.
I'll simplify you message for you: If you're going to play around with $1000 worth of guns, skip the "poor man's" crap and spend $5 on some proper gear. Cheep gear gets cheep results.
tep0583 3 years ago 2
C'mon, we know this is really about the time I found you naked with your peter in the big bowl of jello.
And yes, the "I was hot and hungry, and then I slipped" excuse still doesn't fly.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
This is a POINTLESS video. No one uses empty casings to practice and only an IDIOT would have them around in a Real Life situation.
Snapper314 3 years ago
I guess your firearm will never malfunction so there is no need fro you to run through this drill
mcgustocb4 3 years ago
You did strip the Glock mag, as you were saying you never had to.
I'm a Glock fan, but this was retarded.
popebobthepious 3 years ago
glock perfection
kylek1606 3 years ago
great clip sept the glock did the problem just as much as the xd if not more. and dude you audio blows.
rtg3dtodd 3 years ago
No, the Glock did it once. The XD did it most everytime. The Glock only had to have the mag removed for clearance the first time, every other time tapping the mag and racking the slide allowed it to fire. The XD required stripping the mag out, then working the slide to clear it then inserting the mag. Watch again and look at the difference.
Unicorn161 3 years ago
Right on Unicorn!
Someone who actually paid attention the whole way through!
Thanks for doing that little something so many others neglect.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
Glock n roll baby. I bet this is due to the better feeding of the glock due to less chamber support?
NIKON777 3 years ago
I haven't the foggiest, man. Surprised the heck outta me.
Frankdude72 3 years ago
The .45 Glocks have about the same amount of chamber support as most other .45s. At least the newer ones do. It was the older .40 S&W that had much less support than is the norm.
Unicorn161 3 years ago
Dude... do you shoot empty brass in your CCW weapon? If you do then you are better off caring a rock to throw!!!.. Sorry but your video is useless.
RenoAK82 3 years ago
Hmmmm, somebody just doesn't get it.
How do you simulate jams to initiate immediate action drills, Mr. Know-It-All?
Or do you assume your gun will work every bloody time?
Frankdude72 3 years ago
Great clip man thanks for sharing
kickedintheballs2000 3 years ago