Werner Erhard: the methodology of transformation

[falvarez1057]

Thank you Werner you make a big diference in this world! I have been a witness of miracles, magic and transformation in people lifes and my life. I love this transforming education!

[dallaselectras]

Thank you Werner Erhard for your contributions. It has made a difference in my life.

[Wheelie55]

Brilliant! Thank you, Werner, for putting together so many varied areas of thought and giving us something that actually has made a lasting difference. Thank you for giving your life (often in the face of no agreement) to exploring what is possible for human being.

[hollowtube76]

Sounds slower than the original

[rhetoricalhermeneut]

@hollowtube76 Yeah, I think this particular recording (from tape to digital) was done at a slow speed (unintentionally).

[carolewindham]

Thanks for this. I am assuming this is part of a longer talk. If so, where can i hear it?

[rhetoricalhermeneut]

@carolewindham It's from a talk called "Leadership: From Ideals to Possibility." Unfortunately, I do not know where you could hear it in its entirety.

[gopherandme2]

Unless you people have gone to EST with an open-mind, you have no idea what you are talking about. His training changed my life and 2 decades later I use his training. I will just say that one of the main tools I learned to live my life was that I, and only I, was responsible for my actions and esp. reactions. Some of these comments clearing express the ignorance of the writers. jsh

[flyingeagle357]

hi, please do you have the full seminar or other videos where werner explain his "phylosophia"?

[minnescanada]

He is being investigated as a cult leader

[rhetoricalhermeneut]

@minnescanada Really? Who is doing the investigating? When did they do it? What reasons did they have to do so? Can you provide links to reputable sources?

And what relevance do you think your post has to what the speaker says in the clip, or to the discussion on this message board? I'm curious.

[balkanboy75]

@minnescanada Yes, and in unrelated news, Werner killed a few people in an elevator up on his way to giving a speech to the Harvard Kennedy School of Leadership students - he farted - and as a powerful cult leader, he's gained an ability to fart fireballs out his arse. You should see Landmark Forum leaders too - their eyes glow red and shoot invisible poisonous darts that have you scratch your head in a WTF manner a year and a half after you do it....

[Crebralassassin]

He loses me at this point:

"Maybe what empowers people cannot be used by them. Maybe we need a kind of listening that can be present for what is powerful and not useful. Thirst for knowledge and greed for explanations never lead to a thinking inquiry. Curiousity is always the concealed arrogance of a self consciousness that banks on a self-invented rationality."

The will to know does not know to abide before what is worthy of thought.

[rhetoricalhermeneut]

@Crebralassassin: if we listen merely to acquire information that we *think* we need, we fail to engage in an inquiry that might lead to a shift in who we "are" as opposed to simply what we "know." The will to know is the Cartesian drive to be certain, and it is a drive that cannot tolerate uncertainty. It is that tendency in us to summarize the unknown into categories of familiarity; nothing transformative of our thinking is possible if Cartesianism remains dominant.

[Crebralassassin]

I really want to meet him.

[charulda]

brilliant 

[rainmon]

Werner really has a talent way for speaking and leaving you wondering what was said...

[eastjones]

@rainmon you are right. in the training I found that I would all of a sudden come into focus on one part of what he was saying, it sort of 'hit home' without being analyzed through the normal channels of the brain, i would just 'get it' as they say.. Then my pov or ground of being would be slightly different, and I would try to.... oh shit, I'm doing it too! the thing is it's hard to tell the truth and really say what you mean

[Fletcher901]

@rainmon It's worth parsing out.