@tstalsby509 actually no... im not. I really dont have any religious views. I just think its stupid. I live in Mount Vernon and im only 18 so i know how the kids are.
Ur rite. Im Catholic I go to Catholic School. This guy cant teach religion in public school. If he really wants to teach that way he should go to a private school
at least the US has separation of church and state.. in Ireland we dont have that... it basically says in the constitution that all members of government and judges must talk an oath that involves religious belief... also teachers must be religious as most schools are run by the roman catholic church .. and Ireland passed a blasphemy law last month too because Ireland's constitution apparently requires some form of blasphemy law
This whole situation isn't anything to do with the separation of church and state, instead it is about the need to separate ignorant, scientifically illiterate people from the ranks of teachers.
My buddy had him for a teacher and my friend is gay and that teacher knew that finally my friend stopped going to class cause he couldn't take it anymore
hey cum gussling fag why dont you figure out that that isnt a picture of mountvernon highschool and also you say he worked at the high school witch he did but not when this happend he worked in the middle school right next to the science class i was in fucker
Kid you dont know anything about this.... u live in Idaho, why are you talking about this?
P.S. in the beginning of the clip u showed a picture of the OLD high school....... and he doesnt even teach high school, he is a middle school teacher...... shows how much u know
Religion (of any kind) has no place in the public school system. Seperation of church and state. He should have his job taken away. It's bad enough he would push his beliefs on these kids but when he starts burning them-excuse me BRANDING them that's asault. He should be in jail.
That teacher should be fired and have his teaching license taken away - permanently. People like him are responsible for promoting hatred against homosexuals, atheists and anybody else who doesn't believe the "christian" way of life.
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i agree with bmxtahoe and cnf6966and as well as thecompanycar i know John personally and he wouldnt burn any one! and have you seen the episode of mind freak when Chis Angel himself put on a metal suit and went by the biggest tesla coil made and only got burnt because of the cloth on the suit that was exposed got caught on fire? and he was fine other then the burn when the cloth got caught on fire
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can you remove your face from the screen. 21 years dumy. wow at least you can read."best teacher" based on OAT scores! I say "best teacher" based on the 2007 and 2002 Distinguished Service Award given by the Administration and how liked & respected he is by his students. and has a spotless record. wow kid can you say that. nono i dont think so. If you would use that smat brain for something good maby one day you might be the man John Freshwater is.
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I wonder why the manufacturer of the Tesla Coil was not included in the lawsuit. Could it be that they are afraid the company would send in an expert witness to prove that this device could not have possibly done what they are saying?
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Mr. Freshwater is not a "crazy religious teacher." He has been a teacher for over twenty years and even won teacher of the year from the Mount Vernon school system in 2007. What he has done is to refuse to hide what he believes in.
As far as the burning of a mark on a child's arm, he is far from proven guilty.
Oh he won teacher of the year I must of been wrong...
I'm sure your opinion isn't biased I mean you only have the name "mountvernon1805" for all I know you could be John Freshwater himself, or even worse some colleague that wants to stand up for him.
He is clearly a religious nut, If he wants to "stand up for what he believes" then he can go do that in a private school that way my tax dollars won't have to fund garbage.
You see we have something called the constitution.
Thomas Jefferson referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state.
Now I know this might be hard for you but what John Freshwater is doing isn't "refusing to hide his beliefs" but rather cram then down his students throats.
I really feel sorry for the kids that had to endure him as a teacher. I hope this was a valuable lesson for you 'mountvernon1805'.
Thecompanycar, you also seem to be missing quite a lot of detail from your 'personal experience'. Your brother (not you) had him as a teacher and the elusive reference to 'the device'. Dont waste our time, they have him bang to rights.
I don't think you understand the whole story here. I know John Freshwater personally and my brother actually had him as a teacher. The device that he allegedly used to burn a cross into a student's arm is actually incapable of doing just that. I had a different science teacher at the same school for 8th grade who used to same electrostatic device and I know from personal experience that it's just not possible. This whole thing is rediculous.
School board members voted 5-0 to fire Mount Vernon Middle School science teacher John Freshwater. Board attorney David Millstone said Freshwater is entitled to a hearing to challenge the dismissal.
Freshwater denies wrongdoing and will request such a hearing, the teacher's attorney, Kelly Hamilton, told the Mount Vernon News.
School board members met a day after the consulting firm H.R. On Call Inc. released its report on the teacher's case.
Remeber kid, they are still allegations. The whole electrostactic machine burning a kid is B.S. I've personally touched one of those machines that was at leat 10 times as powerful and didn't leave a mark. The one he used is as powerful as rubbing your socks on carpet and touching a door knob.
kittygiagirl, I'm quite certain jonnymohawk used the words 'religious neutrality'. But I'm sure he, like me, is just a little more concerned about the accusation of the teacher branding his students. That, coupled with the accusation that the man ignores the prescribed curriculum (replacing it with one that fits his warped world view), is more than enough reason to thouroughly investigate him.
Perhaps exaggerations have been made, but I'm willing to bet he deserves to be fired.
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This is America if your teacher wants to have a bible on his desk he has every right. Just like you every right to jump on the opportunity to complain about Christians. I am more than sure you would not be running your mouth if it was a book about atheism or any other religion. Because it happens to be a Christian bible, you feel the need to complain.
He has been teaching for over 20 years, and this horribly evil man was somehow voted teacher of the year last year? How is this possible if he is the monster you are making him out be be? Oooh, a Bible on a desk...how incredibly evil.
People who send their children to school shouldn't have to worry about not being able to trust the teachers. Not just the Christian parents but parents of all religions and no religion; they all must be assured that the teacher is not going to instill his own religious beliefs.
The inability (stubbornness) of the teacher to simply put his bible away seems to show a worrying desire to evangelize.
Several of the other claims are similarly worrying. Actually, more worrying.
teacher burns crosses into kid's arms yah I believe that sure. Youtube I guess gives a forum for ridiculous schoolkid rumors to get posted publicly.
"Did you hear what coach did one time? He killed a player for doing weed, i think it was like back in the 80's or something. No, dude I'm serious, you can ask anyone. He was never seen again."
If you would have even made the effort to grab a newspaper, watch the news, or even use the internet you would find you just made yourself look extremely unintelligent.
Burn crosses into childrens skin...because getting them to associate the logo of christianity with pain is Soooooo going to make them view it in a positive light, what a dumbass.
@WizardJim Federal judge Gregory Frost had this to say: "Freshwater had been applying the Tesla coil to his student's arms for approximately 21 years, with not one reported injury. Over 600 students, in Freshwater's classes alone, had the Tesla coil applied to their arms without incident. Moreover, two other science teachers engaged in the same Tesla coil experiment with their students, one for over 20 years. These teachers too never had a reported injury resulting from the experiment."
Jesus is a huge ass hole..if he were real.
Also where did you get the misfits clock?
MyDookieGoesKerplunk 1 year ago
I've been teaching for 33 years. In my professional opinion, John Freshwater is a nut job.
evadnie100 1 year ago
fuck you john freshwater is a good man he desevers better than ppl telling everybody hes a bad man
Brandonbleb 1 year ago
@Brandonbleb I bet you're christian, aren't you.
tstalsby509 1 year ago
fuck you john freshwater is a good man he desevers better than ppl telling everybody hes a bad man
Brandonbleb 1 year ago
No. You got the damn story wrong.
John Freshwater is the sweetest guy ever.
The fucking kids in mt.vernon are assholes who
need there ass' smacked.
CDSJ09 1 year ago
@CDSJ09 I bet you're christian too.
tstalsby509 1 year ago
@tstalsby509 actually no... im not. I really dont have any religious views. I just think its stupid. I live in Mount Vernon and im only 18 so i know how the kids are.
CDSJ09 1 year ago
Ur rite. Im Catholic I go to Catholic School. This guy cant teach religion in public school. If he really wants to teach that way he should go to a private school
Celtspartan 1 year ago
@Celtspartan WAIT HE FUKKIN BURNS KIDS???? HOLY SHIT HE SHOULDNT TEACH ANYWHERE!!!!
Celtspartan 1 year ago
@Celtspartan WAIT HE FUKKIN BURNS KIDS???? HOLY SHIT HE SHOULDNT TEACH ANYWHERE!!!!
Celtspartan 1 year ago
@Celtspartan WAIT HE FUKKIN BURNS KIDS???? HOLY SHIT HE SHOULDNT TEACH ANYWHERE!!!!
Celtspartan 1 year ago
@Celtspartan WAIT HE FUKKIN BURNS KIDS???? HOLY SHIT HE SHOULDNT TEACH ANYWHERE!!!!
Celtspartan 1 year ago
Your life is pasted all over your bedroom wall. Total crap.
IRoman123 1 year ago
What a dumb crazy fuck. i hope he gets fired and murdered
mgs6ps3 1 year ago
Lose the lisp, kid.
violentautopsy80 1 year ago
What happens if the student is a Jehovah's Witnesses, he/she ends up with a pagan symbol on their arm?
herbertwarmstrong 2 years ago
that would be equally as bad... most definitely.
jonnymohawk 2 years ago
at least the US has separation of church and state.. in Ireland we dont have that... it basically says in the constitution that all members of government and judges must talk an oath that involves religious belief... also teachers must be religious as most schools are run by the roman catholic church .. and Ireland passed a blasphemy law last month too because Ireland's constitution apparently requires some form of blasphemy law
irishlonewolf88 2 years ago
I am glad you are making these videos. Keep it up!
asaskald 2 years ago
This whole situation isn't anything to do with the separation of church and state, instead it is about the need to separate ignorant, scientifically illiterate people from the ranks of teachers.
booste30 2 years ago 5
lol that sucks for you. We shouldn't have scientifically illiterate dumbasses teaching fantasy in classrooms.
booste30 2 years ago
your teacher should be fired for teaching crap RELIGION
mcleayf1 2 years ago
dont worry about these dumb fucks kid it was quite obvious what your point was
NWOsurvivors 2 years ago
My buddy had him for a teacher and my friend is gay and that teacher knew that finally my friend stopped going to class cause he couldn't take it anymore
mad7o7 3 years ago
hey cum gussling fag why dont you figure out that that isnt a picture of mountvernon highschool and also you say he worked at the high school witch he did but not when this happend he worked in the middle school right next to the science class i was in fucker
cbkxsniperkillx 3 years ago
your hair looks like a hat.
FutileFreak 3 years ago
Kid you dont know anything about this.... u live in Idaho, why are you talking about this?
P.S. in the beginning of the clip u showed a picture of the OLD high school....... and he doesnt even teach high school, he is a middle school teacher...... shows how much u know
ginstt18 3 years ago
Oh yes my geological location plays so much into my intelligence.
Your ad hominem fallacy will get you SO far.
Oh wait is that sarcasm?
Oh I think it is.
When you have something to actually say come back and I would be more then happy to argue with you.
jonnymohawk 3 years ago
Religion (of any kind) has no place in the public school system. Seperation of church and state. He should have his job taken away. It's bad enough he would push his beliefs on these kids but when he starts burning them-excuse me BRANDING them that's asault. He should be in jail.
LivienRochelle 3 years ago
That teacher should be fired and have his teaching license taken away - permanently. People like him are responsible for promoting hatred against homosexuals, atheists and anybody else who doesn't believe the "christian" way of life.
ricoatheist 3 years ago 2
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i agree with bmxtahoe and cnf6966and as well as thecompanycar i know John personally and he wouldnt burn any one! and have you seen the episode of mind freak when Chis Angel himself put on a metal suit and went by the biggest tesla coil made and only got burnt because of the cloth on the suit that was exposed got caught on fire? and he was fine other then the burn when the cloth got caught on fire
Hairball2 3 years ago
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can you remove your face from the screen. 21 years dumy. wow at least you can read."best teacher" based on OAT scores! I say "best teacher" based on the 2007 and 2002 Distinguished Service Award given by the Administration and how liked & respected he is by his students. and has a spotless record. wow kid can you say that. nono i dont think so. If you would use that smat brain for something good maby one day you might be the man John Freshwater is.
cnf6966 3 years ago
Your right I can say I got a "best teacher award" because IM NOT A TEACHER.
Besides Im not really trying to argue how well he teaches or not but rather what he did to those students and pushing his beliefs on others.
jonnymohawk 3 years ago
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hahahahaha
bennihana123 3 years ago
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I wonder why the manufacturer of the Tesla Coil was not included in the lawsuit. Could it be that they are afraid the company would send in an expert witness to prove that this device could not have possibly done what they are saying?
cnf6966 3 years ago
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Mr. Freshwater is not a "crazy religious teacher." He has been a teacher for over twenty years and even won teacher of the year from the Mount Vernon school system in 2007. What he has done is to refuse to hide what he believes in.
As far as the burning of a mark on a child's arm, he is far from proven guilty.
mountvernon1805 3 years ago
Oh he won teacher of the year I must of been wrong...
I'm sure your opinion isn't biased I mean you only have the name "mountvernon1805" for all I know you could be John Freshwater himself, or even worse some colleague that wants to stand up for him.
He is clearly a religious nut, If he wants to "stand up for what he believes" then he can go do that in a private school that way my tax dollars won't have to fund garbage.
jonnymohawk 3 years ago
You see we have something called the constitution.
Thomas Jefferson referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state.
Now I know this might be hard for you but what John Freshwater is doing isn't "refusing to hide his beliefs" but rather cram then down his students throats.
I really feel sorry for the kids that had to endure him as a teacher. I hope this was a valuable lesson for you 'mountvernon1805'.
jonnymohawk 3 years ago
Thecompanycar, you also seem to be missing quite a lot of detail from your 'personal experience'. Your brother (not you) had him as a teacher and the elusive reference to 'the device'. Dont waste our time, they have him bang to rights.
RabidLarmer 3 years ago
I don't think you understand the whole story here. I know John Freshwater personally and my brother actually had him as a teacher. The device that he allegedly used to burn a cross into a student's arm is actually incapable of doing just that. I had a different science teacher at the same school for 8th grade who used to same electrostatic device and I know from personal experience that it's just not possible. This whole thing is rediculous.
thecompanycar 3 years ago
hhaairrccuutt
32SQUID 3 years ago
Freshwater will be sacked tomorrow. 21/06/08 (6/21/08 to you)
itsChristonabike 3 years ago
You were right!
School board members voted 5-0 to fire Mount Vernon Middle School science teacher John Freshwater. Board attorney David Millstone said Freshwater is entitled to a hearing to challenge the dismissal.
Freshwater denies wrongdoing and will request such a hearing, the teacher's attorney, Kelly Hamilton, told the Mount Vernon News.
School board members met a day after the consulting firm H.R. On Call Inc. released its report on the teacher's case.
JacobbJames666 3 years ago
Remeber kid, they are still allegations. The whole electrostactic machine burning a kid is B.S. I've personally touched one of those machines that was at leat 10 times as powerful and didn't leave a mark. The one he used is as powerful as rubbing your socks on carpet and touching a door knob.
bmxtahoe 3 years ago
kittygiagirl, I'm quite certain jonnymohawk used the words 'religious neutrality'. But I'm sure he, like me, is just a little more concerned about the accusation of the teacher branding his students. That, coupled with the accusation that the man ignores the prescribed curriculum (replacing it with one that fits his warped world view), is more than enough reason to thouroughly investigate him.
Perhaps exaggerations have been made, but I'm willing to bet he deserves to be fired.
threewiseman1 3 years ago
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This is America if your teacher wants to have a bible on his desk he has every right. Just like you every right to jump on the opportunity to complain about Christians. I am more than sure you would not be running your mouth if it was a book about atheism or any other religion. Because it happens to be a Christian bible, you feel the need to complain.
kittygiagirl 3 years ago
He has been teaching for over 20 years, and this horribly evil man was somehow voted teacher of the year last year? How is this possible if he is the monster you are making him out be be? Oooh, a Bible on a desk...how incredibly evil.
saq428 3 years ago
People who send their children to school shouldn't have to worry about not being able to trust the teachers. Not just the Christian parents but parents of all religions and no religion; they all must be assured that the teacher is not going to instill his own religious beliefs.
The inability (stubbornness) of the teacher to simply put his bible away seems to show a worrying desire to evangelize.
Several of the other claims are similarly worrying. Actually, more worrying.
What's your opinion?
MishaVargas 3 years ago
proof?
saq428 3 years ago
teacher burns crosses into kid's arms yah I believe that sure. Youtube I guess gives a forum for ridiculous schoolkid rumors to get posted publicly.
"Did you hear what coach did one time? He killed a player for doing weed, i think it was like back in the 80's or something. No, dude I'm serious, you can ask anyone. He was never seen again."
Fallschirmjager11 3 years ago
If you would have even made the effort to grab a newspaper, watch the news, or even use the internet you would find you just made yourself look extremely unintelligent.
jonnymohawk 3 years ago
Cool, someone that offends without swearing. I stand in awe!
AtheistKingdom 3 years ago
I can't believe people like this, and the scary thing is that is happens ALL THE TIME.
Religion is a center for child abuse, I swear to allah.
Great video [again], Jonny.
gogreen18 3 years ago
Burn crosses into childrens skin...because getting them to associate the logo of christianity with pain is Soooooo going to make them view it in a positive light, what a dumbass.
WizardJim 3 years ago 3
It's reverse psychology, genius!
jinitron 3 years ago
@WizardJim Federal judge Gregory Frost had this to say: "Freshwater had been applying the Tesla coil to his student's arms for approximately 21 years, with not one reported injury. Over 600 students, in Freshwater's classes alone, had the Tesla coil applied to their arms without incident. Moreover, two other science teachers engaged in the same Tesla coil experiment with their students, one for over 20 years. These teachers too never had a reported injury resulting from the experiment."
mountvernon1805 1 year ago