The problem is that DeWolf signed a certified document before his death swearing that everything he had said about his father previously was a lie.
At the time he did this he had a family to support and was seriously ill and deeply in debt and did this upon receiving a undisclosed settlement from Co$..
I believe what he's saying but Miscavige and the scilons always reference his affidavit when you mention his claims.
what makes you think L. Ron Hubbard is any different from Jesus or any Religious leader the world has ever seen. Because a book written 2000 years ago say's so? thats bullshit. the only evidence religious people give is because the bible says so. good evidence. lets take everything off a 2,000 year old book when people thought the earth was flat
@davies11223 dud the bible was not write all at once by Jesus it is a compilation of short story's gathered by the Church over the years It was written century's after the death of Christ .
Also did you never herd the phrase "Believe in God requires a lip of faith"
P.S I do not agree or believe in the teachings of scientology any one how dose so is a moron.
@davies11223 ...big difference is that L Ron created his batshit beliefs after the enlightenment (and stole the therapy part from gurdjieff). while you can criticize the bible today, there is no reason to criticize its historical existence until the scientific revolution. before we could see, we all were blind. PS...the ancient greeks discovered that the earth was round. the whole flat-earth thing is a myth taught to glorify columbus, who was a very brave genocidal idiot.
@bmbenblog Columbus believed the Earth was round, as did his sponsors. His trip was to find a short cut to India. Someone needs to go back to history class?
@FallicIdol um..that was my point....you misread my statement. "there never was a period of 'flat earth darkness' among scholars (regardless of how the public at large may have conceptualized our planet both then and now). Greek knowledge of sphericity never faded, and all major medieval scholars accepted the earth's roundness as an established fact of cosmology." Steven Jay Gould.
@bmbenblog Are you dumb? The bibl says the earth was flat. It also states that the earth is the center of the universe lmao it even says that the earth was made in a few days. All "facts" that have been disproven by logical thinking.
@Siiafu Yep, the flat earth is even further evidenced how they refer to the earth as having '4 corners' lol, it amazes me people are stupid enough to believe it. And there's so much wrong with the Noah's Ark story I won't even bother..
@bmbenblog Are you dumb? The bibl says the earth was flat. It also states that the earth is the center of the universe lmao it even says that the earth was made in a few days. All "facts" that have been disproven by logical thinking.
I understand some of the members are strongly under their evil spell but it baffles me that those who just simply believe this cult gives them what they've been searching for ignore these videos. How much more proof do they need that this is NOT a religion but an evil hoax, a money making scheme. People like Hubbard are no different to Lennon, Stalin, bush, hitler, gaddafi, mubarek (many others). They're psychotic megalomaniacs. True religion is worshipping ONE God, not man, not symbols or idol
@000aysh Yeah unlike all those other religions where people worship mutliple deities. You're so sure what's true or not even though for something, by definition, to be true has to be "in accordance with reality," and to be in accordance with reality has to exist, be perceived and observed...You can't observe you're "ONE God..."
No i can't observe my one god literally but I believe He exists. I can't see my thoughts, my dreams, my mind or my feelings but they all exist. I disagree with Scientology because it was formed by a science fiction writer on a dare by his friend. They're made to confess their secrets then made to pay thousands for 'councelling' Then there's child labour & admin workers paid barely enough to cover their weekly transport to get to 'work' .
@ericisthere How much money do i have to spend to help & if you could help another person better their life don't you think that you should just do it 4 fucking free!!! Its easy to point out peoples flaws and tell them that the next step is to spend more money but your still fucked. Don't be weak minded and fall 4 this shit!!!
These are the people that you should be looking to...nay, looking at when you have done something dumb & need to feel better about yourself. These people have willingly joined this cult thinking that their affiliation will get them somewhere in life. If you need to check your moral compass against a religion & you have already killed a blind orphan while wearing a Klan hood during a drinking & driving binge...they will make you feel great!
@Highwiredrogue Nay? Are you a horse? Don't force words into sentences to sound intelligent, it makes you look phony. What are you talking about? Killing blind orphans....? I hope this was all sarcasm. If it was, it was hilarious. lol
@navyk77 Of course I was being sarcastic. People love to find faults in others to make themselves feel better. If a particular religion does it for ya, so be it. I happen to think that L. Ron was an evil genius! I love the easily amused & gullible public that provides us the endless comic relief.
@betlamed Good question. Maybe the bright, successful, good looking and rich people that are involved with Scientology are not getting anything really valuable and applicable to their lives. I am with you guys: Scientology is not awesome!
@07volvo Well.... or maybe there are two classes of scientologists, the ones that are pampered because of their money, and all the others that are robbed of it.
@07volvo Because many wealthy people statistically suffer with depression and search for meaning and life... Pluss you gotta be kind o well of to afford it x)
@07volvo Ah, I see. Well that leaves the less well off people out of luck huh? That's kind of disturbing. I have a few fiends who are scientologists and from what they've told me and from what i've researched Ive come to the conclusion that scientology is merely a philosophy mixed with some reworded phychology concepts. Anyone who studies psychology can see whats really going on with this modern take on relligion
The cult brainwashes vulnerable people to believe, essentially, that you are slowly on your "spiral to hell" and without paying the cult many thousands of dollars, you will go to hell for sure. It is cruel and inhumane - how it still exists is beyond me. They must share their huge money with the CIA or something to avoid being shut down. They make sure they get you as a member to reveal the most shameful things about yourself so that they can hold that against you later if you try to speak out.
Sadly, I joined the "church" back in the 90s. They prey on vulnerable people searching for meaning in life. I went deep enough into the organization, where I was presented with a contract lasting I think it was a million years. They are satanic, but hide that fact - and the deeper you get the more you realize it. The "Bare Faced Messiah" book helped to get me out of the cult. Thank God.
l ron hubbard was put on ethics in order to take responsibility for his negative actions. he volunteered to take a butt phuck with no lube.. for a week, mens unwiped butt holes sitting on his face, after this he happily went on to write up his o.w's.
@32penn I don't know, but if there isn't, try taking a bit of time to listen to every word they say. it may take time, but hey, use it if there's no alternative.
Carly Chruthfield. " exposed" utube Carly Crutchfield ccorp and Larrarine Bell You left athis 63 yr widow homeless Part 1&2. Even worse than that You left another widow, homeless, her 2 young handicapped children with out a home, you threaten legal action, against the son who introduce his mother to you since then he has tied to take his own life. At the time of this U-tube post, this widow is sick, dying with weeks to live. "The only way to Control People is to lie to them" L.Ron Hubbard.
@doughaines720: Look him up on Wikipedia. He was no fraud, he was really his son. And yes of course Ron de Wolf wasn't his original name. He changed his name after he left Scientology.
even ailester crowley knew to steer clear of ron hubbard. ron hubbard is a worse human being than aliester crowley, hitler, and osama bin ladin combined. i wish scientologists could live on another planet where they can feel like the superior beings that they think they are in their delusions without bothering anyone else on this planet!
We need BOTH more academic intelligence AND "common sense", although "common sense" doesn't turn out to be all that common
AND in fact proves to be wrong in many cases - e.g. quantum mechanics, giving even more power to those in power in the false belief that one is being "strategic" and "wise" with one's vote and will somehow magically get more in return, when in reality all one does is make one's situation worse in the long term. Academic smarts say FIGHT BACK!
@pbrs73 there are many types or intelligence as you call it, but true intelligent people would never try to hold back anything. Everything is a chance to learn and grow.
Crowley was so cool. Ron Jr. is fudging a bit, though.
Crowley knew of Hubbard, and Hubbard attended one of his lodges in California, but he didn't intimately know or approve of Hubbard. He wrote to Jack Parsons, who WAS intimately acquainted with Hubbard, that Hubbard seemed like a conman and that he would do well to steer clear of him.
@pbrs73 Since when the FUCK has academic intelligence and reverence for academic inteligence contributed to ANY of the world's problem today? Quite the opposite: the cults of nationalism, of capitalism, and belief in a magical woman/man called "god" have caused the massive imprisonment, enslavement, and torture in the world of millions of humans and trillions of non-humans today and for the past 10,000 years.
@TheBlueGoldenHawk Then don't complain if I use the more common term, "animals", although not all animals suffer torture - for being inaccurate because it's not inclusive enough or too inclusive.
@deskset24 it isn't "academic intelligence, reverence for academic inteligence or the cults of nationalism, of capitalism, and belief in a magical woman/man called "god"" that have have caused the massive imprisonment, enslavement, and torture in the world of millions of humans and trillions of non-humans today and for the past 10,000 years or contributed to ANY of the world's problem today. The only problem is selfishness. The only answer is kindness.
@sk8mike hahah I can't "leave" cause I'm not in there!!! thank you for your advice...I'm not planning on joining a religious group of any kind cause I was raised a catholic and I'm still trying to cleanse from it!!! XD I just wanted to know more about it cause I had heard something interesting like a scentific theory on a way of leaving the past in the past, but then noone could clarify my doubts. so it's probably just bull...
@TheBlueGoldenHawk - DeWolf called the parts referring to him "no more than wild flights of fantasy" and "to the extent that any portion of this book is based on my communications with [the main author], whether written or oral, the book is inaccurate and false". In two affidavits Ronald DeWolf submitted to a court in 1987 he confirms that his knowledge about the doing of his father L. Ron Hubbard and the Church of Scientology already ended in the late 1950s
@TheBlueGoldenHawk -Check the court records in Nevada 1987 for the exact vwords of Ron DeWolf where he states he lied about his Dad and that the offerings in the Book Madman or Messiah were false. He admitted in court that he lied about his Dad in an effort to get at his money. I even think Scientology Wiki has all the copies of the affidavits so you can verify them with the court records.
@TheBlueGoldenHawk - I think its because he & his father hadnt seen each other in 30 years and there was no strong bond between them. He wasnt going to get a dime when his dad passed. So knowing that he tried to swindle it from him. Naturally he lost and was sued for $5 million dollars. As you know he later admitted lying about LRH. Guess that kinda kills this video doesnt it? Hmm?
@TheBlueGoldenHawk - What about it? You dont actually think you saw some because of the xenutv stuff do you? Thats funny. What about the Guy Fawkes mask and the hacking. Its time you defended yourself for abit. Its anons that are going to prison. What are you about? Hmm?
@toryluvslrh1 ur making no sense ya loon! "You dont actually think you saw some because of the xenutv stuff do you? Thats funny. What about the Guy Fawkes mask and the hacking" Guy Fawkes? who is that?!
Keep these crazy bastards away from your children or they (your children) will be working for them the rest of their lives...that goes for all cults or "Religions"
Anyone who follows Scientology is an idiot. If you can't see through the stupidity that passes for "enlightenment" in Scientology, you deserve everything you get from the fucking Scientology morons.
@bapyou It isn't just stupidity. Many of the people that fall victim to this fall into it on accident. Scientologists are experts with high pressure sales tactics and brainwashing. You can get sucked into the cult without even realizing that you're signing up for Scientology, You can't just casually join the church; they choose you! Members have had their entire savings accounts drained by the church after going under hypnosis for hours on end in the name of "treatment".
@meccaturbo thats probably because he knows that people will want to try and harm him and his family in some way for this. These fanatics are dangerous, and psycologically distressed people, and he of all people knows it...
all religions preach duality, good vs evil, satan vs god ect. whatever. duality is false, we create the dualtiy only because we let it happen and beleive it is necissary,
3:48 why is buddy smiling about the satanism comment, ppl are really that ignorant, this is fuckign hubbards son, what a douche, good thing he was hiding in the back cuz buddy in front of him looks like he's takin this pretty serious, would have been awsome if he turned around and bitch slapped that grin off his douchebag face lol.
@TheSparkle7 Lafayette was never the messiah. Ron DeWolf told us of this man's evil activities. The reason why Ron Hubbard's son changed his name was because of the darkness of his father's reputation put on him as a direct lineage to Lafayette Ron Hubbard. If you like, you can look into the essence of the extended Hubbard family. In fact, there was one part of the family which resided in New Hampshire and owned a chicken farm and funded or founded the University of New Hampshire.
L. Ron Hubbard's megalomania and greed , his use of self-hypnosis, his fascination with Aleister Crowley, and his life long alcohol and drug abuse - at least until his 60s when health issues caused him to 'cleanup his act', are now well documented facts.
Belief's extremely dangerous... Personally, I hate being around people that believe one thing or another
When someone truly believes in a religion they think it's real. When you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction there's something seriously wrong.
That goes for any type of belief, not just religious belief..
@mikeysa you are using the word beliefs as a synonym for religion, but I think there are two different things. Am I right? English is not my mother tongue so I don't know...
As hard as I can I will fight for the prohibition of your so-called church. I will not give, up, until the retransmission of your dangerous thoughts is forbidden worldwide.
The Xenu story is part of the Church of Scientology's secret "Advanced Technology", normally only revealed to members who have already contributed large amounts of money. The Church avoids mention of Xenu in public statements and has gone to considerable effort to maintain the story's confidentiality, including legal action on the grounds of both copyright and trade secrecy. Despite it, much material on Xenu has leaked to the public via court documents, copies of Hubbards notes, and the Internet
People can talk about anything they want on the internet or anywhere they would like. Especially on youtube.
I know a lot about Islam and I agree with what he said and can defend my stance. You trying to order someone not to talk about Islam is one of the big problems with Islamic people. The deceitfulness of Islamic people with anyone that is not a follower or believer of Islam and its teachings makes them bad people to deal with.
I am not going to argue with someone who cant even read a sentence and understands it properly what i said was dont talk about islam when u dont know anything about it, i didnt order anyone not talk about it try to switch your brain on before you start converstations idiot
I understand your statement, I do not agree with it.
Even if someone knows nothing about Islam, they still have the right to comment about it. Right or wrong doesn't matter. They have the right to do so by way of the U.S. Constitution and YouTube guidlines. Get over it, you're wrong.
Further, if you are defending Islam in any way, you are the idiot.
furthermore, thats exactly why i didnt want to converse with idiots on youtube, cause of the fact they dont know shit and still have the nerve to argue with you about the facts of your daily life..
I cant belive that people can actually say they follow a god and a relegion then at the same time boldly say the know better than their god and they can change the rules of their relegion as they see fit, and people who dont do the same are called barbaric, your only source of intormation about islam is propaganda from haters and exteremists, just like christianity and judism have their exteremists.
In your mind you think you know everything about everyone. I lived with an Islamic Muslim for four years during college, then went to the first Gulf War where I lived close to a million more for 3 years. Constantly getting training by Muslims to further educate us on their beliefs. When I left with the 15th MEU to Afghanistan after 911 and then to Al Anbar I found myself interacting with Muslims another 8 years.Muslims are liars and cannot be trusted. This has been proven to me first hand.
@MyRanchMyRules I'd like to tell you I don't mean to hurt you, I see you've lived and I?d like to exchange ideas with you. I have no interest in the Muslim topic at all. Are you from USA? do you think people in your country are educated, honest, trustworthy? I'm from South America and we don't see things that way...we feel USA votes whatever means their own comfort and never respects life outside, as if the world outside usa didn't exist or didn't have a right to exist.
well, i got my facts from YOUR bullshit cult books, writings about the life of YOUR cult leader, and from muslim clerics and scholars, talking about how they will NOT allow any kind of criticism of islam, and will condone violence against anyone who does, and against any non-muslims.
yes, this IS just following what your cult leader did back in the 7th century, when he plagiarised other religions to gain power and notoriety, and to satisfy his sexual and bloodthirsty needs.
only reason i am even gonna bother to reply to your bigot remarks is just to tell you i feel sorry for a person that is so lost in his own self pity that he has to attack other people belifs to feel good about his empty life. you high light cult talking about a mainstream relegion followed by more than a billion person. thinking u know better than all of them, i really pitty your worthless existance.
The right to choose ones religion is a basic human right. And until I hear of Scientologist killing people or starting wars on behalf of their religion, they should be allowed to practice it at will free from scorn and discrimination. If it helps people then all the better. To each his own.
Lisa Macphersons death was ruled an accident. I am talking about a religion that blatantly kills or maims on behalf of their religion. Certainly there have been tens of thousands or more people who have recieved care or alternative medicine from the church. One or even a few accidental deaths does not mean that the Church is killing people. Quite obviously being a rather new religion, if the Church were killing poeple in this media age, we would all know about it.
If Christianity has become more civilized, it is only because it's followers have abandoned its tenants as outlined in the bible. If its followers are able to determine what is good and bad in the bible and adjust their moral code accordingly, then why do they need the bible at all? How can they consider it to be a source of truth when they discard its contents based on their understanding of good and evil, which obviously developed outside of biblical teachings?
thats EXACTL what christians have done. they have decided that the bible is only a BOOK, written in a time when life was very different, and which doesnt stand up in a civilised society.
so, take the best elements of that book, and live as good a life as possibe, without resorting to all the hellfire and brimstone barbarics in the old testament.
just because muslims say that a MAN MADE document was the word of god doesnt mean we can let them do what they want in todays world.
Fact is, the average Christian in America supports destruction in the middle east because in their view it is fulfilling biblical prophecy. If that's not barbaric, what is?
Your assertion that they don't resort to hellfire and brimstone is a lie. Children are indoctrinated before their critical mind is developed into believing that hell awaits if they don't follow the dogmas of their particular church. It's a brainwashing any way you paint it and the result is barbarism.
I cannot speak for Christians but I believe that they support the war in the middle east because there are countries that are supporting and contributing to terrorist organizations. At the very least they are allowing these terrorists to reside in their country. One of these terrorist organizations is known to have killed thousands of Americans. What do you have other than a guess to back up your "fact is" statement?
well said. all your comments are fairly in-keeping with what most people who have spent a large amount of time in islamic countries.
muslims just hate non-muslims, and particularly non-muslims in the west.
i have read the queeran, and some parts of some hadiths. they are ridiculous, and they are mostly just about taking over the world, and giving men the right to do what they want to women.
many religions were similar in the 7th century, but islam is the only one doing this NOW, in modern times
and the "other" countries dont support the war? are there terroist in iraq? afganistan? iran? africa? mexico? pretty much any country in the world. why do you just mention america and christians i guess Islam is a religion of peace?Do they not fight in wars? Do they not start wars? ALL people are bad just BAD
im not defending christians to a massive degre, i hate all religion. yes, its all about indoctrination.
thats why no people convert to a religion from atheism. it just doesnt really happen. but people might go to another religion when they find that their own is just bullshit. but their MIND is still trained to believe it, so they just find another one, which they might then leave after a few years when they find the holes in that religions stories.
which religion caused the most damage and death in the last 10 years? islam. no other religion comes close.
scientology may be the more ridiculous, but islam is still VERY ridiculous and stupid; some guy wakes up one morning and says "i spoke to god last night, he said you must do what i say from now on", and thesemorons believe him? even after he kept CHANGING the rules "god" laid down? like if there WAS a god he would get things wrong and have to change them
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Actually the rules, the Quran hasnt been changed once since it was written 1400 years ago, when Gabriel spoke to Muhamed, unlike the Bible which has been edited more times then Wikipedia.
Also, Islam hasnt caused much suffering in the last 10 years to be frank with you. The USA's imperialistic propaganda makes you believe so. They tactically cause inner fighting among muslim countries.
Another point, if the Quran is ridiculous, then science is ridiculous. The Quran has many scientific miracles
LMAO... Hasn't changed in 1400 years!! You are deluded worse then the Scientology cult members. Your prophet was an illiterate pedophile, LITERALLY!!! The quran wasn't even put on paper for hundreds of years after, just like the ignorant bible.
Scientific miracles which are only with state of the art tech being proven. How would a crazy man back 1400 years ago, get so many loony facts proven?
Also, Islam teaches peace, and just because some crazy muslims dont follow it, doesnt make the religion itself bad, but the select few followers themselves. For instance, the KKK burn crosses and hate blacks, in the name of Jesus. I beleieve its wrong, but I dont hate on Christianity.
moohamhead was a PROVEN mass murderer and paedophile. how is that teaching peace?
he beheaded 900 jews IN ONE DAY, simply for not converting to islam.
and its not terrorists i am talking about when i say islam is the worst. im talking about muslims living under islamic law (sharia), which condones hanging gays, stoning women, beheading people, hacking off hands and feet of petty theives, and many other such barbaric and vile acts
but the religion makes the people do it. if the religion wasnt there, the people wouldnt have it as an excuse to kill all those people for no reason, would they?
Ever heard of the U.S.S.R.? How many millions did Stalin kill, all in the name of Atheism? Religion sometimes gives people an excuse to kill, but they'll find another one, even without it.
to me he sounds like a son who wanted huge heritage and was denied it, now he wants to destroy his father.
ZoZojun 1 month ago
Aren't most churches businesses, anyhow?
Catholics still seem bent on overpopulating the world (and denying its environmental effects) to boost their flock and get more income from tithing.
Antithropocentric 1 month ago
The problem is that DeWolf signed a certified document before his death swearing that everything he had said about his father previously was a lie.
At the time he did this he had a family to support and was seriously ill and deeply in debt and did this upon receiving a undisclosed settlement from Co$..
I believe what he's saying but Miscavige and the scilons always reference his affidavit when you mention his claims.
sharkattacksteve 4 months ago
what makes you think L. Ron Hubbard is any different from Jesus or any Religious leader the world has ever seen. Because a book written 2000 years ago say's so? thats bullshit. the only evidence religious people give is because the bible says so. good evidence. lets take everything off a 2,000 year old book when people thought the earth was flat
davies11223 6 months ago
@davies11223 dud the bible was not write all at once by Jesus it is a compilation of short story's gathered by the Church over the years It was written century's after the death of Christ .
Also did you never herd the phrase "Believe in God requires a lip of faith"
P.S I do not agree or believe in the teachings of scientology any one how dose so is a moron.
WatchmenDrManhattan 5 months ago
@davies11223 ...big difference is that L Ron created his batshit beliefs after the enlightenment (and stole the therapy part from gurdjieff). while you can criticize the bible today, there is no reason to criticize its historical existence until the scientific revolution. before we could see, we all were blind. PS...the ancient greeks discovered that the earth was round. the whole flat-earth thing is a myth taught to glorify columbus, who was a very brave genocidal idiot.
bmbenblog 5 months ago
@bmbenblog Columbus believed the Earth was round, as did his sponsors. His trip was to find a short cut to India. Someone needs to go back to history class?
FallicIdol 5 months ago
@FallicIdol um..that was my point....you misread my statement. "there never was a period of 'flat earth darkness' among scholars (regardless of how the public at large may have conceptualized our planet both then and now). Greek knowledge of sphericity never faded, and all major medieval scholars accepted the earth's roundness as an established fact of cosmology." Steven Jay Gould.
bmbenblog 5 months ago
someone needs to go back to reading class? understand what is said before being a condescending dick.
bmbenblog 5 months ago
@bmbenblog Are you dumb? The bibl says the earth was flat. It also states that the earth is the center of the universe lmao it even says that the earth was made in a few days. All "facts" that have been disproven by logical thinking.
Siiafu 4 months ago
@Siiafu Yep, the flat earth is even further evidenced how they refer to the earth as having '4 corners' lol, it amazes me people are stupid enough to believe it. And there's so much wrong with the Noah's Ark story I won't even bother..
Ninety9Soulz 4 months ago
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@bmbenblog Are you dumb? The bibl says the earth was flat. It also states that the earth is the center of the universe lmao it even says that the earth was made in a few days. All "facts" that have been disproven by logical thinking.
Siiafu 4 months ago
@davies11223 It's like Joseph Smith, too. A lot of people doubt his word, but that's only because he did it 150 years ago
jprg1966 5 months ago
This should be sent to all scientologists..oops forgot they aren't allowed to go on the internet!!!
irishgal5505 6 months ago
This should be sent to al lscientologists..oops forgot they aren't allowed to go on the internet!!!
irishgal5505 6 months ago
even his own son knows he's a c_nt what more evidence do you want
covermusicfan 6 months ago 12
@covermusicfan at least this son wasn't a scarecrow like jesus.
Siiafu 4 months ago
I understand some of the members are strongly under their evil spell but it baffles me that those who just simply believe this cult gives them what they've been searching for ignore these videos. How much more proof do they need that this is NOT a religion but an evil hoax, a money making scheme. People like Hubbard are no different to Lennon, Stalin, bush, hitler, gaddafi, mubarek (many others). They're psychotic megalomaniacs. True religion is worshipping ONE God, not man, not symbols or idol
000aysh 6 months ago
@000aysh Yeah unlike all those other religions where people worship mutliple deities. You're so sure what's true or not even though for something, by definition, to be true has to be "in accordance with reality," and to be in accordance with reality has to exist, be perceived and observed...You can't observe you're "ONE God..."
0hs0Zen0 6 months ago
@000aysh
No i can't observe my one god literally but I believe He exists. I can't see my thoughts, my dreams, my mind or my feelings but they all exist. I disagree with Scientology because it was formed by a science fiction writer on a dare by his friend. They're made to confess their secrets then made to pay thousands for 'councelling' Then there's child labour & admin workers paid barely enough to cover their weekly transport to get to 'work' .
000aysh 6 months ago
@Oreceo His sons a loser. LRH devoted his life to helping people. What has this guy done besides bring false accusations to his father.
ericisthere 7 months ago
@ericisthere How much money do i have to spend to help & if you could help another person better their life don't you think that you should just do it 4 fucking free!!! Its easy to point out peoples flaws and tell them that the next step is to spend more money but your still fucked. Don't be weak minded and fall 4 this shit!!!
K1DRO77S1 7 months ago
It's funny because L. Ron Hubbard didn't have any children.
inufreak525 7 months ago
@inufreak525 2 kids this guy and a gay 1
K1DRO77S1 7 months ago
@inufreak525 He has quite a few children. Keep spewing your lies, drone.
Your denial is saddening.
TheAtma 6 months ago
@inufreak525 ? !
abcedy123456 6 months ago
All of you bashing Scientology need to wake up!!
These are the people that you should be looking to...nay, looking at when you have done something dumb & need to feel better about yourself. These people have willingly joined this cult thinking that their affiliation will get them somewhere in life. If you need to check your moral compass against a religion & you have already killed a blind orphan while wearing a Klan hood during a drinking & driving binge...they will make you feel great!
Highwiredrogue 7 months ago
@Highwiredrogue Nay? Are you a horse? Don't force words into sentences to sound intelligent, it makes you look phony. What are you talking about? Killing blind orphans....? I hope this was all sarcasm. If it was, it was hilarious. lol
navyk77 7 months ago
@navyk77 Of course I was being sarcastic. People love to find faults in others to make themselves feel better. If a particular religion does it for ya, so be it. I happen to think that L. Ron was an evil genius! I love the easily amused & gullible public that provides us the endless comic relief.
Highwiredrogue 6 months ago
All religions are false
fefe74e 7 months ago
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ITS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EASY to stop Scientology. STOP JOINING UP AND PAYING THEM. End of church. PERIOD.
bottleracket 8 months ago
Religion is supposed to be free :P
Scientology is FAKE!!! Open your eyes victims of the church of "scientology" with all that alien drama LOL
Nurullah1200 9 months ago
Interesting....
lovingatlanta 9 months ago
I rather by a Muslim than a scientologist.
Obamaownswhitesnow 10 months ago
@Obamaownswhitesnow That's insulting to muslims :O
13enwarner 9 months ago
Im sure this guy's sexual life SUCKS, lol!!!
Obamaownswhitesnow 10 months ago
Wow! I wonder why so many talented, smart and successful people are involved with Scientology?
07volvo 10 months ago
@07volvo Compared to what?
betlamed 9 months ago
@betlamed Good question. Maybe the bright, successful, good looking and rich people that are involved with Scientology are not getting anything really valuable and applicable to their lives. I am with you guys: Scientology is not awesome!
07volvo 9 months ago
@07volvo Well.... or maybe there are two classes of scientologists, the ones that are pampered because of their money, and all the others that are robbed of it.
betlamed 9 months ago
@07volvo Because many wealthy people statistically suffer with depression and search for meaning and life... Pluss you gotta be kind o well of to afford it x)
13enwarner 9 months ago
@13enwarner I hear what you are saying. Maybe Scientology is designed to help those that are doing well in life do even better.
07volvo 9 months ago
@07volvo Ah, I see. Well that leaves the less well off people out of luck huh? That's kind of disturbing. I have a few fiends who are scientologists and from what they've told me and from what i've researched Ive come to the conclusion that scientology is merely a philosophy mixed with some reworded phychology concepts. Anyone who studies psychology can see whats really going on with this modern take on relligion
13enwarner 9 months ago
@13enwarner I think you are probably right. It seems like a mix of age old principles to me.
07volvo 9 months ago
All scientologists need to be placed in straight jackets and taken to padded rooms. FUCK SCIENTOLOGY!
Illeagle98 10 months ago
He looks like Bubbles. I bet he fixes shopping carts.
urantivirus 10 months ago
He looks so much like his father.
05lowell05 11 months ago
Nice work JR. That must have taken some Cojones in 1983.
ChewmeBacon 11 months ago 11
The cult brainwashes vulnerable people to believe, essentially, that you are slowly on your "spiral to hell" and without paying the cult many thousands of dollars, you will go to hell for sure. It is cruel and inhumane - how it still exists is beyond me. They must share their huge money with the CIA or something to avoid being shut down. They make sure they get you as a member to reveal the most shameful things about yourself so that they can hold that against you later if you try to speak out.
dexfx69 11 months ago
Sadly, I joined the "church" back in the 90s. They prey on vulnerable people searching for meaning in life. I went deep enough into the organization, where I was presented with a contract lasting I think it was a million years. They are satanic, but hide that fact - and the deeper you get the more you realize it. The "Bare Faced Messiah" book helped to get me out of the cult. Thank God.
dexfx69 11 months ago
3:51
He says devil and the devil appears! AHHHH!! SCIENTOLOGY IS TRUE!!!
SirDamienQFox 1 year ago
Scientologists dont belive in the internet. that why you never see them commenting on these videos. or see the truth.
rrrtbds12223 1 year ago
3:50 - A Classic TR confront. (just be there comfortably.... stare and confront the person with no blinking or fidgeting)
Supernaught16 1 year ago
l ron hubbard was put on ethics in order to take responsibility for his negative actions. he volunteered to take a butt phuck with no lube.. for a week, mens unwiped butt holes sitting on his face, after this he happily went on to write up his o.w's.
Supernaught16 1 year ago
Did anyone else hear him say "David Miscaviage"?
MegaFrogzor 1 year ago
@MegaFrogzor Moar like David Miscaariage, amiright?
MajorLogica 11 months ago
@MajorLogica Yes very right.
MegaFrogzor 11 months ago
I am doing a big paper on the money fraud in scientology is there a way i could get a transcript of this interview for my paper??
32penn 1 year ago
@32penn I don't know, but if there isn't, try taking a bit of time to listen to every word they say. it may take time, but hey, use it if there's no alternative.
dman19851996 1 year ago
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Urbanlatte2go 1 year ago
I think that guy is pretending to be L. Ron's son.
I mean his name it says on screen is Ron de Wolf.
I guess it could be and there was a name change.
It could be completely made up.
EIther they both know and don't care about lying, or she knows but he really believes himself, or he knows he's lying but she doesn't know.
Well it shouldn't be too difficult to sort out - whoever is in charge of the show or whatever TV channel that is.
It's now on youtube.
doughaines720 1 year ago
@doughaines720 Are you kidding? Look at a picture of his Father and him, side by side.
Valkonnen 1 year ago
@doughaines720: Look him up on Wikipedia. He was no fraud, he was really his son. And yes of course Ron de Wolf wasn't his original name. He changed his name after he left Scientology.
Supenmanu 1 year ago
@doughaines720 No that is his son haha.
13enwarner 9 months ago
@doughaines720 His name is Ron DeWolf Hubbard Jr. Thus Ron Hubbard Junior :P
13enwarner 9 months ago
even ailester crowley knew to steer clear of ron hubbard. ron hubbard is a worse human being than aliester crowley, hitler, and osama bin ladin combined. i wish scientologists could live on another planet where they can feel like the superior beings that they think they are in their delusions without bothering anyone else on this planet!
JungleDust 1 year ago
We need BOTH more academic intelligence AND "common sense", although "common sense" doesn't turn out to be all that common
AND in fact proves to be wrong in many cases - e.g. quantum mechanics, giving even more power to those in power in the false belief that one is being "strategic" and "wise" with one's vote and will somehow magically get more in return, when in reality all one does is make one's situation worse in the long term. Academic smarts say FIGHT BACK!
deskset24 1 year ago
@pbrs73 there are many types or intelligence as you call it, but true intelligent people would never try to hold back anything. Everything is a chance to learn and grow.
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L. Ron Hubbard is God. If you believe that I have a bridge I want to sell you. PM me.
EmmanuelGoldsteinWeb 1 year ago
his son is a good man for telling people the truth about how stupid scientolagy is
MonoxidePanda 1 year ago
Crowley was so cool. Ron Jr. is fudging a bit, though.
Crowley knew of Hubbard, and Hubbard attended one of his lodges in California, but he didn't intimately know or approve of Hubbard. He wrote to Jack Parsons, who WAS intimately acquainted with Hubbard, that Hubbard seemed like a conman and that he would do well to steer clear of him.
mistertakeda 1 year ago
I had no idea Alistair Clrowly had a connection to L. Ron Hubbard.
OrinDac 1 year ago
@OrinDac I didn't either. But it definitely makes sense.
Irawdom 1 year ago
Of course, there is not one practicing Scientologist who knew L Ron Hubbard better than his son.
So ignore the opinions of the brainwashed minions, Ron DeWolf speaks truths that Miscavige doesn't want the remaining few to hear.
toryluvsrlh2 1 year ago
@pbrs73 Since when the FUCK has academic intelligence and reverence for academic inteligence contributed to ANY of the world's problem today? Quite the opposite: the cults of nationalism, of capitalism, and belief in a magical woman/man called "god" have caused the massive imprisonment, enslavement, and torture in the world of millions of humans and trillions of non-humans today and for the past 10,000 years.
deskset24 1 year ago
@deskset24 "non-humans"? is this a real life Mass Effect or Star Wars story? L-O-L
TheBlueGoldenHawk 1 year ago
@TheBlueGoldenHawk Then don't complain if I use the more common term, "animals", although not all animals suffer torture - for being inaccurate because it's not inclusive enough or too inclusive.
deskset24 1 year ago
@deskset24 Clara since most crazy people have cats, how many do you have?
Dayversion 1 year ago
@deskset24 srry i thought u were talkin about aliens like a loon not animals
TheBlueGoldenHawk 1 year ago
@deskset24 it isn't "academic intelligence, reverence for academic inteligence or the cults of nationalism, of capitalism, and belief in a magical woman/man called "god"" that have have caused the massive imprisonment, enslavement, and torture in the world of millions of humans and trillions of non-humans today and for the past 10,000 years or contributed to ANY of the world's problem today. The only problem is selfishness. The only answer is kindness.
nahnuhhuh 1 year ago
@nahnuhhuh
You don't need Scientology! Leave while you still can.
sk8mike 1 year ago
@sk8mike hahah I can't "leave" cause I'm not in there!!! thank you for your advice...I'm not planning on joining a religious group of any kind cause I was raised a catholic and I'm still trying to cleanse from it!!! XD I just wanted to know more about it cause I had heard something interesting like a scentific theory on a way of leaving the past in the past, but then noone could clarify my doubts. so it's probably just bull...
nahnuhhuh 1 year ago
He looks like Bubbles from "Trailer Park Boys"!
teamguy246 1 year ago
this reporter is a bitch
youngkiller1988 1 year ago
Ron was fair gamed
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AgentxAnonymous 1 year ago
Ron DeWolf admitted in court he lied about his dad. A sad end to a very disturbed son who was jealous of his father.
dude4scn 1 year ago
@dude4scn and where'd u find this info?
TheBlueGoldenHawk 1 year ago
@TheBlueGoldenHawk - DeWolf called the parts referring to him "no more than wild flights of fantasy" and "to the extent that any portion of this book is based on my communications with [the main author], whether written or oral, the book is inaccurate and false". In two affidavits Ronald DeWolf submitted to a court in 1987 he confirms that his knowledge about the doing of his father L. Ron Hubbard and the Church of Scientology already ended in the late 1950s
toryluvslrh1 1 year ago
@TheBlueGoldenHawk -Check the court records in Nevada 1987 for the exact vwords of Ron DeWolf where he states he lied about his Dad and that the offerings in the Book Madman or Messiah were false. He admitted in court that he lied about his Dad in an effort to get at his money. I even think Scientology Wiki has all the copies of the affidavits so you can verify them with the court records.
toryluvslrh1 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh1 if he wanted the money, why wouldn't he just wait til his father would die and then inherit it to own and get millions that way? hm
TheBlueGoldenHawk 1 year ago
@TheBlueGoldenHawk - I think its because he & his father hadnt seen each other in 30 years and there was no strong bond between them. He wasnt going to get a dime when his dad passed. So knowing that he tried to swindle it from him. Naturally he lost and was sued for $5 million dollars. As you know he later admitted lying about LRH. Guess that kinda kills this video doesnt it? Hmm?
toryluvslrh1 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh1 what about OT III and the whole story about Xenu? Hmm?
TheBlueGoldenHawk 1 year ago
@TheBlueGoldenHawk - What about it? You dont actually think you saw some because of the xenutv stuff do you? Thats funny. What about the Guy Fawkes mask and the hacking. Its time you defended yourself for abit. Its anons that are going to prison. What are you about? Hmm?
toryluvslrh1 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh1 I have no clue what the hell ur talkin about
TheBlueGoldenHawk 1 year ago
@TheBlueGoldenHawk - Thats what I figured.
toryluvslrh1 1 year ago
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@toryluvslrh1 ur making no sense ya loon! "You dont actually think you saw some because of the xenutv stuff do you? Thats funny. What about the Guy Fawkes mask and the hacking" Guy Fawkes? who is that?!
TheBlueGoldenHawk 1 year ago
@dude4scn
He settled out of court because he was sued by the church. Shut your mouth Scientology crapbag.
zoulkyud 1 year ago
Keep these crazy bastards away from your children or they (your children) will be working for them the rest of their lives...that goes for all cults or "Religions"
eyetolduso 1 year ago 3
Imagine being the son of such a drugged lunatic who thinks he's god.
Poor man.
Uruguruh 1 year ago 10
using people for money using the name of god is sick and i hope u burn in hell
HuckeysWorld 1 year ago
If I've told you one, I've told you a thousand times; never name your son after you. He'll only push out to look like his mom every time.
dallaskenn 1 year ago
how old was this guy in 1952? drug importations in 1952?
captkirkconnell 1 year ago
@captkirkconnell
Hubbards eldest son was born 1934 (speaking here)
angloman1 1 year ago
poor guy... bless his soul.
panther0567 1 year ago 2
father and son are some weird lookin fuckers
thedelta88 1 year ago
Anyone who follows Scientology is an idiot. If you can't see through the stupidity that passes for "enlightenment" in Scientology, you deserve everything you get from the fucking Scientology morons.
bapyou 1 year ago 25
@bapyou It isn't just stupidity. Many of the people that fall victim to this fall into it on accident. Scientologists are experts with high pressure sales tactics and brainwashing. You can get sucked into the cult without even realizing that you're signing up for Scientology, You can't just casually join the church; they choose you! Members have had their entire savings accounts drained by the church after going under hypnosis for hours on end in the name of "treatment".
flashlightwarrior88 9 months ago
wow this is his son , he speaks it all
DainEllis 1 year ago
He sounds just like his father...........exactly.........his voice I mean.
khalsasikh 1 year ago
he fathered bubbles?
Tryambakam 1 year ago
he looks to be very nervous....like he's got a dildo shoved up his asshole.
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@meccaturbo thats probably because he knows that people will want to try and harm him and his family in some way for this. These fanatics are dangerous, and psycologically distressed people, and he of all people knows it...
indatrashkan 1 year ago 2
@indatrashkan true, but he's as much of a wacko as the fanatics are.
meccaturbo 1 year ago
Paul Haggis left the cult.
quig66 1 year ago
Great journalist this woman is!
Cetramarius 1 year ago
@Cetramarius Thanks Yoda!
demofactory 1 year ago
um l ron believed himself to be satan and also was scizo, druggie among other things...
tedyesca 1 year ago
all religions preach duality, good vs evil, satan vs god ect. whatever. duality is false, we create the dualtiy only because we let it happen and beleive it is necissary,
ogskeetdizzle 1 year ago
3:48 why is buddy smiling about the satanism comment, ppl are really that ignorant, this is fuckign hubbards son, what a douche, good thing he was hiding in the back cuz buddy in front of him looks like he's takin this pretty serious, would have been awsome if he turned around and bitch slapped that grin off his douchebag face lol.
ogskeetdizzle 1 year ago
ron hubbard is not the messiah hes a very naughty boy
TheSparkle7 1 year ago 80
haha me like
Domination666 1 year ago
@TheSparkle7 Lafayette was never the messiah. Ron DeWolf told us of this man's evil activities. The reason why Ron Hubbard's son changed his name was because of the darkness of his father's reputation put on him as a direct lineage to Lafayette Ron Hubbard. If you like, you can look into the essence of the extended Hubbard family. In fact, there was one part of the family which resided in New Hampshire and owned a chicken farm and funded or founded the University of New Hampshire.
MetalSStar196 1 year ago
@TheSparkle7 So was Jesus
BeAsTm0aD 10 months ago
I like the presenter...she's pretty hot!
doodydude234 2 years ago
L. Ron Hubbard Sr. was heavily into drugs, and his son, Ron Jr., was ruthlessly attacked by ("Fair Gamed") by Scientology for decades.
bogglerful 2 years ago 35
@bogglerful and yet he reminds me of Bubbles! Minus that insane voice of course. lol "Randy? What the **** are you doing here?" lol
MetalSStar196 1 year ago
L. Ron Hubbard's megalomania and greed , his use of self-hypnosis, his fascination with Aleister Crowley, and his life long alcohol and drug abuse - at least until his 60s when health issues caused him to 'cleanup his act', are now well documented facts.
bogglerful 2 years ago 6
very interesting...thanks:)
Grayhawk33 2 years ago
Many thanks for posting
StopUnumNow 2 years ago
Belief's extremely dangerous... Personally, I hate being around people that believe one thing or another
When someone truly believes in a religion they think it's real. When you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction there's something seriously wrong.
That goes for any type of belief, not just religious belief..
mikeysa 2 years ago
Do not judge others, for 'ye be judged back.
Holycrudaflyingcow12 2 years ago
@mikeysa you are using the word beliefs as a synonym for religion, but I think there are two different things. Am I right? English is not my mother tongue so I don't know...
nahnuhhuh 1 year ago
I applaud Ron Dewolf. RIP
mahoose6 2 years ago 3
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EyMeng 2 years ago
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As hard as I can I will fight for the prohibition of your so-called church. I will not give, up, until the retransmission of your dangerous thoughts is forbidden worldwide.
SuperCharismo 2 years ago
The Xenu story is part of the Church of Scientology's secret "Advanced Technology", normally only revealed to members who have already contributed large amounts of money. The Church avoids mention of Xenu in public statements and has gone to considerable effort to maintain the story's confidentiality, including legal action on the grounds of both copyright and trade secrecy. Despite it, much material on Xenu has leaked to the public via court documents, copies of Hubbards notes, and the Internet
ThunderCurls 2 years ago 5
i find it idiotic that ppl would actually debate relgion on youtube, but what the heck,
@w0bbl3r
by "christianity has become more civilaized " u mean they edited their holy book, changing rules as they see fit ?
and dont be talking about islam when u dont know the 1st thing about it idiot
protos911 2 years ago
People can talk about anything they want on the internet or anywhere they would like. Especially on youtube.
I know a lot about Islam and I agree with what he said and can defend my stance. You trying to order someone not to talk about Islam is one of the big problems with Islamic people. The deceitfulness of Islamic people with anyone that is not a follower or believer of Islam and its teachings makes them bad people to deal with.
MyRanchMyRules 2 years ago
I am not going to argue with someone who cant even read a sentence and understands it properly what i said was dont talk about islam when u dont know anything about it, i didnt order anyone not talk about it try to switch your brain on before you start converstations idiot
protos911 2 years ago
I understand your statement, I do not agree with it.
Even if someone knows nothing about Islam, they still have the right to comment about it. Right or wrong doesn't matter. They have the right to do so by way of the U.S. Constitution and YouTube guidlines. Get over it, you're wrong.
Further, if you are defending Islam in any way, you are the idiot.
MyRanchMyRules 2 years ago
furthermore, thats exactly why i didnt want to converse with idiots on youtube, cause of the fact they dont know shit and still have the nerve to argue with you about the facts of your daily life..
protos911 2 years ago
I cant belive that people can actually say they follow a god and a relegion then at the same time boldly say the know better than their god and they can change the rules of their relegion as they see fit, and people who dont do the same are called barbaric, your only source of intormation about islam is propaganda from haters and exteremists, just like christianity and judism have their exteremists.
protos911 2 years ago
In your mind you think you know everything about everyone. I lived with an Islamic Muslim for four years during college, then went to the first Gulf War where I lived close to a million more for 3 years. Constantly getting training by Muslims to further educate us on their beliefs. When I left with the 15th MEU to Afghanistan after 911 and then to Al Anbar I found myself interacting with Muslims another 8 years.Muslims are liars and cannot be trusted. This has been proven to me first hand.
MyRanchMyRules 2 years ago
@MyRanchMyRules I'd like to tell you I don't mean to hurt you, I see you've lived and I?d like to exchange ideas with you. I have no interest in the Muslim topic at all. Are you from USA? do you think people in your country are educated, honest, trustworthy? I'm from South America and we don't see things that way...we feel USA votes whatever means their own comfort and never respects life outside, as if the world outside usa didn't exist or didn't have a right to exist.
nahnuhhuh 1 year ago
well, i got my facts from YOUR bullshit cult books, writings about the life of YOUR cult leader, and from muslim clerics and scholars, talking about how they will NOT allow any kind of criticism of islam, and will condone violence against anyone who does, and against any non-muslims.
yes, this IS just following what your cult leader did back in the 7th century, when he plagiarised other religions to gain power and notoriety, and to satisfy his sexual and bloodthirsty needs.
sick, twisted CULT
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
only reason i am even gonna bother to reply to your bigot remarks is just to tell you i feel sorry for a person that is so lost in his own self pity that he has to attack other people belifs to feel good about his empty life. you high light cult talking about a mainstream relegion followed by more than a billion person. thinking u know better than all of them, i really pitty your worthless existance.
protos911 2 years ago
i dont think i know better than the muzzies...
i KNOW i do.
try reading the fucking thing, rather than just believe the whole "religion of peace" bullshit the media tells you
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
The right to choose ones religion is a basic human right. And until I hear of Scientologist killing people or starting wars on behalf of their religion, they should be allowed to practice it at will free from scorn and discrimination. If it helps people then all the better. To each his own.
jfarris4417 2 years ago
What about Lisa Macpherson?
mickfriday 2 years ago
Lisa Macphersons death was ruled an accident. I am talking about a religion that blatantly kills or maims on behalf of their religion. Certainly there have been tens of thousands or more people who have recieved care or alternative medicine from the church. One or even a few accidental deaths does not mean that the Church is killing people. Quite obviously being a rather new religion, if the Church were killing poeple in this media age, we would all know about it.
jfarris4417 2 years ago
What about the Christian Crusades?
They killed millions of people in the name of their so called 'God'.
ThunderCurls 2 years ago
that was a LONG time ago.
even christianity has become more civilised since then.
the only religion that is as barbaric and horrific nowas it was back then is islam.
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
If Christianity has become more civilized, it is only because it's followers have abandoned its tenants as outlined in the bible. If its followers are able to determine what is good and bad in the bible and adjust their moral code accordingly, then why do they need the bible at all? How can they consider it to be a source of truth when they discard its contents based on their understanding of good and evil, which obviously developed outside of biblical teachings?
subg88 2 years ago
thats EXACTL what christians have done. they have decided that the bible is only a BOOK, written in a time when life was very different, and which doesnt stand up in a civilised society.
so, take the best elements of that book, and live as good a life as possibe, without resorting to all the hellfire and brimstone barbarics in the old testament.
just because muslims say that a MAN MADE document was the word of god doesnt mean we can let them do what they want in todays world.
kill them all
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
Fact is, the average Christian in America supports destruction in the middle east because in their view it is fulfilling biblical prophecy. If that's not barbaric, what is?
Your assertion that they don't resort to hellfire and brimstone is a lie. Children are indoctrinated before their critical mind is developed into believing that hell awaits if they don't follow the dogmas of their particular church. It's a brainwashing any way you paint it and the result is barbarism.
subg88 2 years ago
@subg88
I cannot speak for Christians but I believe that they support the war in the middle east because there are countries that are supporting and contributing to terrorist organizations. At the very least they are allowing these terrorists to reside in their country. One of these terrorist organizations is known to have killed thousands of Americans. What do you have other than a guess to back up your "fact is" statement?
MyRanchMyRules 2 years ago 2
well said. all your comments are fairly in-keeping with what most people who have spent a large amount of time in islamic countries.
muslims just hate non-muslims, and particularly non-muslims in the west.
i have read the queeran, and some parts of some hadiths. they are ridiculous, and they are mostly just about taking over the world, and giving men the right to do what they want to women.
many religions were similar in the 7th century, but islam is the only one doing this NOW, in modern times
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
and the "other" countries dont support the war? are there terroist in iraq? afganistan? iran? africa? mexico? pretty much any country in the world. why do you just mention america and christians i guess Islam is a religion of peace?Do they not fight in wars? Do they not start wars? ALL people are bad just BAD
phantom4x4 2 years ago
There are good people, not many of them are powerful, but there are good people.
Oprah for instance.
Holycrudaflyingcow12 2 years ago
im not defending christians to a massive degre, i hate all religion. yes, its all about indoctrination.
thats why no people convert to a religion from atheism. it just doesnt really happen. but people might go to another religion when they find that their own is just bullshit. but their MIND is still trained to believe it, so they just find another one, which they might then leave after a few years when they find the holes in that religions stories.
but islam is the WORST religion, and most vile
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
Lol! You utterly blinded with media bombardments if you think Islam is the worst. You brainwashed maggots make me laugh!
L33CH3RS 2 years ago 4
then which one is worse than islam?
which religion caused the most damage and death in the last 10 years? islam. no other religion comes close.
scientology may be the more ridiculous, but islam is still VERY ridiculous and stupid; some guy wakes up one morning and says "i spoke to god last night, he said you must do what i say from now on", and thesemorons believe him? even after he kept CHANGING the rules "god" laid down? like if there WAS a god he would get things wrong and have to change them
w0bbl3r 2 years ago 3
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Actually the rules, the Quran hasnt been changed once since it was written 1400 years ago, when Gabriel spoke to Muhamed, unlike the Bible which has been edited more times then Wikipedia.
Also, Islam hasnt caused much suffering in the last 10 years to be frank with you. The USA's imperialistic propaganda makes you believe so. They tactically cause inner fighting among muslim countries.
Another point, if the Quran is ridiculous, then science is ridiculous. The Quran has many scientific miracles
L33CH3RS 2 years ago
LMAO... Hasn't changed in 1400 years!! You are deluded worse then the Scientology cult members. Your prophet was an illiterate pedophile, LITERALLY!!! The quran wasn't even put on paper for hundreds of years after, just like the ignorant bible.
sickofgod69 1 year ago
Scientific miracles which are only with state of the art tech being proven. How would a crazy man back 1400 years ago, get so many loony facts proven?
Also, Islam teaches peace, and just because some crazy muslims dont follow it, doesnt make the religion itself bad, but the select few followers themselves. For instance, the KKK burn crosses and hate blacks, in the name of Jesus. I beleieve its wrong, but I dont hate on Christianity.
we should respect and love one another.
L33CH3RS 2 years ago
moohamhead was a PROVEN mass murderer and paedophile. how is that teaching peace?
he beheaded 900 jews IN ONE DAY, simply for not converting to islam.
and its not terrorists i am talking about when i say islam is the worst. im talking about muslims living under islamic law (sharia), which condones hanging gays, stoning women, beheading people, hacking off hands and feet of petty theives, and many other such barbaric and vile acts
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SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE FOR THIS.
L33CH3RS 2 years ago
islam does not teach peace, i have read the quran and it constistently asks for violence against kufr(non muslims)
muhammad spread islam through violence
learn history
14mm2 1 year ago 4
not religion cause it, people does.
henrix999 2 years ago
but the religion makes the people do it. if the religion wasnt there, the people wouldnt have it as an excuse to kill all those people for no reason, would they?
w0bbl3r 2 years ago 4
@w0bbl3r
Ever heard of the U.S.S.R.? How many millions did Stalin kill, all in the name of Atheism? Religion sometimes gives people an excuse to kill, but they'll find another one, even without it.
janus70 1 year ago
@janus70
In the name of Atheism? Genius.
Lunsford18 1 year ago
@janus70 and this makes religion any better... how?
tbdll 1 year ago
@tbdll
I'm not white-washing religion, but at the same time, you can't blame religion