The plastic to water ratio is not ture calculations to steel V water. The first demo doesn't show the rise and breaking in the center. The steel stacks weight v the water in the bulk heads caused the tention to the center of the ship to crack and break. The steel stacks weight could have kept the titanic from flipping over and kept it steady until help arrived. The model is bogus.
@rickietube1 The capacity of Titanic's pumps was negligible compared to the seawater coming in. Titanic's pumps could expel a maximum of 1,700 tons of water per hour, but it was coming in at a rate of about 25,000 tons per hour; in other words, 15 times as much water was coming in as was being pumped out. The pumps bought them maybe a few minutes of time; no more.
@rickietube1 You're welcome--I was thinking the same thing until I found out what the Titanic's pumps could handle--I was amazed by the amount of water that came in through such a small area of iceberg damage!
First off, where did somebody get the idea that keep that watertight doors open would save more lives? Seriously, the people who built the thing were not dumb. They did the best they could for such an era.
awsome documentary. thanks for uploading the only thing i didnt like is.......well.....is ALL real! the people DID die :/ ugh! RIP! ....thanks for uploadeing!!!
I wasn't "good at math" in school and even I can reason in an instant that a ship filling from the front is going to take longer to sink because the buoyancy of the unflooded portion will delay the weight of the water pulling the ship under. What sank Titanic (after its hull was breached) was the weight of water in the compromised compartments. When this became enough to tilt the ship sufficient for the weight of materials inside the ship to slide forward, add that and down she went.
If the Titanic had flooded more evenly with the WTB doors left open, the people would have certainly not believed that there was any panic or danger to the ship. Therefore MORE people would have stayed on Titanic rather than going on the lifeboats. We know that the first few lifeboats were already loaded with very few passengers to begin with because nobody really felt that there was any real danger. So in this scenario of the open doors, MANY more people would have died.
@twinidee A wonderful and insightful comment, except I would replace "armchair" with "internet". Anyone thinks that just because they have Web access and read some stuff off Wikipedia that makes their opinion valid or "expert" even if they have absolutely nothing to substantiate that claim. What do you expect with hyper-egalitarianism.
Yeah keeping does watertight doors open would be a disaster. If the water would reach the power supply earlier no lights means the Carpathia cannot see the Titanic and the wireless operators would not be able to send messages earlier and then this heavy list as you say happens causing people to slip down the deck and only 14 lifeboats have been lowered. This is the Lusitania watertight doors closed good not closed bad
Interesting documentary, although as usual Ismay's role is greatly exaggerated. They've got him as some kind of dastardly megalomaniac, mastermind of an evil empire, ordering the captain to run the ship at breakneck speed, deliberately reducing the number of lifeboats for profit, and so on. I'm only surprised they didn't blame him for the iceberg.
@FlaviusConstantius Yeah other docu's have done a better job than this one (it was nice to see Bernard doing narration though as he was captain in the movie) , especially regarding Ismay's role. It turns out the policy back then was to move faster through ice fields and, in fact, the titanic was not going top speed. The other thing I did not like was the scale model sinking. While the dimensions were correct, the material and weight balance was not.
Unfortunately, this "experiment" proves nothing other than that a plexiglass model of the Titanic would capsize if the watertight doors were open. Other than that, it was a complete waste of time. A real ship would behave differently and unpredictably. Perhaps it would've sunk sooner, like the experiment. Perhaps it would've floated much longer, like the Republic of 1909. We'll never know for sure. Bottom line, a real ship with corridors, furniture, food, people, etc. cannot be predicted.
2:19 Damn, I can't help having some sympathy for that captain. His reputation is already destroyed, guilty of ignoring iceberg warnings, the weight of 1400-1500 souls on his nautical back. Bad captain! SHAME! He must be rolling in his grave. Oh but wait! Let's blame him for something else! I mean, he's DEAD! He's paid his dues.
@fuschiadea They can't just blame the cpatian on everything like they do here. Leaving the watertight doors open sucks! The water quickly washes the boilers no wireless anymore and no lights to see in the night not to mention the captain DID do somethin about the iceberg warning he steamed 10 miles south to wear there were less icebergs.
@1Historygenius What if I tell you the Captain was ORDERED to die with that ship? He was a Jesuit order member. That's all I can tell you, the rest, find your own.
@maze311 I don't recall the Captain ordered to die with the ship he had probrably wanted to die with the ship because there were not enough boats he knew he should not save his life if it meant taking someone else
@1Historygenius No, you got my point wrong... Ill just go to the point: He was on a suicide mission to kill THREE of the richest men at the time, whose fame and money would prevent the bankers to create a central bank in America, the Federal Reserved Bank. You know the golden rule? He who has gold makes the rules ;D
@maze311 So who were the three millionares I am still confused how could he be on a suicide mission if the ship had enough boats everyone who live Bruce Ismay was the man to not give more lifeboats he was the man who ordered to speed up during the voyage Captain Smith steamed ten miles south to AVOID the Icebergs
@1Historygenius I saw them in this series, but as I told you, I have watched thousand hours. I can't remember all of them... So you saying: to avoid hitting a kid in some sudden area, you would speed up in another direction that you have never been to to avoid hitting kids? Look, the Captain has 22 yrs of experience, he knew where he was going into. Plus, didn't i tell you the big gap should be filled by your own? because there's a lot going on....
@maze311 The Captian offcourse knew what he was going into he head he did not want to hit berg to kill thousands of innocent people just so the three millonares got money Ismay probrably speed up the ship to get more money and more passengers for future voyages he heard the Titanic could break the speed record he fought the icebergs were north far from the Titanic but drifting south Ismay belived he would speed up to save the ship from icebergs hitting
@1Historygenius lol, what you just said were out of lead bro. I don't understand a thing. The 3 billionaires suppose to die, not go get money (?). The Captain KNEW THAT HES GOING TO DIE WITH THE SHIP AND BAD LUCK SOULS BECAUSE HE WAS ON A SUICIDE MISSION OMG
@maze311 Yeah I guess I should say good luck to the captain and his failed sucided mission against rich people he must had been a communist good day sir
@1Historygenius LOL no, his mission was accomplished (three of the richest men mentioned and photos in the series were dead) because after that, the Federal Reserved System is created ever since to enslave the American forevah
@maze311 this is the dumbest shit ive ever heard.. please. spare us the holier than thou bullshit.. it was simply the ship hit the berg.. nothing more.. they didnt plan for the berg to be there.. he didnt do this on purpose.. and i see you truly believe what you're saying which makes you look even more pathetic and more of a dimwit fool
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@Gencturk92 well, they kinda just answered that question, no. according to the experiment done in this video, she would've gone down quicker and capsized and there would've been even more lost of life
@fuschiadea yoh bro, he was a Jesuit Order member and he was ordered to die with the ship. I know there's a big gap in between to make my point, but i've spent thousand of hours watching many stuff. So, make your time :D
what a great loss of life and such an interesting story. Enjoyed every minute of this documentery although i think the experiment at the end wasnt exactly the same, as somebody mentioned earlier. Obviously the experiment had the watertite sectoins which were open spaces, where as in real life there was different floor level, corridors, doors etc. brilliant tho worth watching :)
The plastic to water ratio is not ture calculations to steel V water. The first demo doesn't show the rise and breaking in the center. The steel stacks weight v the water in the bulk heads caused the tention to the center of the ship to crack and break. The steel stacks weight could have kept the titanic from flipping over and kept it steady until help arrived. The model is bogus.
debmcdenis 5 days ago
The experiment did not take into account the tons of water that could have been removed by the pumps until the power was lost.
rickietube1 2 weeks ago
@rickietube1 The capacity of Titanic's pumps was negligible compared to the seawater coming in. Titanic's pumps could expel a maximum of 1,700 tons of water per hour, but it was coming in at a rate of about 25,000 tons per hour; in other words, 15 times as much water was coming in as was being pumped out. The pumps bought them maybe a few minutes of time; no more.
galoon 1 week ago
@galoon good info, thank you.
rickietube1 6 days ago
@rickietube1 You're welcome--I was thinking the same thing until I found out what the Titanic's pumps could handle--I was amazed by the amount of water that came in through such a small area of iceberg damage!
galoon 6 days ago
Oh really?
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KoochyWoochy 1 month ago
First off, where did somebody get the idea that keep that watertight doors open would save more lives? Seriously, the people who built the thing were not dumb. They did the best they could for such an era.
1Historygenius 2 months ago
Thanks very revealing, well done!!
ronfb1946 3 months ago
Thank you for uploading this series , i found it facinating .
mikehh084 3 months ago
Thank you for posting this!!! I've been trying to find this video for a long time.
GotLost86 4 months ago
awsome documentary. thanks for uploading the only thing i didnt like is.......well.....is ALL real! the people DID die :/ ugh! RIP! ....thanks for uploadeing!!!
beigekitten89 5 months ago
thanks for uploading this
PimpMasterT 5 months ago
The man who talks in the end is Captain Smith on the titanic movie of David Cameron!
jacksnow121 5 months ago
I wasn't "good at math" in school and even I can reason in an instant that a ship filling from the front is going to take longer to sink because the buoyancy of the unflooded portion will delay the weight of the water pulling the ship under. What sank Titanic (after its hull was breached) was the weight of water in the compromised compartments. When this became enough to tilt the ship sufficient for the weight of materials inside the ship to slide forward, add that and down she went.
MsTruNorth 6 months ago
If the Titanic had flooded more evenly with the WTB doors left open, the people would have certainly not believed that there was any panic or danger to the ship. Therefore MORE people would have stayed on Titanic rather than going on the lifeboats. We know that the first few lifeboats were already loaded with very few passengers to begin with because nobody really felt that there was any real danger. So in this scenario of the open doors, MANY more people would have died.
MDkid1 6 months ago
@twinidee A wonderful and insightful comment, except I would replace "armchair" with "internet". Anyone thinks that just because they have Web access and read some stuff off Wikipedia that makes their opinion valid or "expert" even if they have absolutely nothing to substantiate that claim. What do you expect with hyper-egalitarianism.
g1a1r1y3 8 months ago
Yeah keeping does watertight doors open would be a disaster. If the water would reach the power supply earlier no lights means the Carpathia cannot see the Titanic and the wireless operators would not be able to send messages earlier and then this heavy list as you say happens causing people to slip down the deck and only 14 lifeboats have been lowered. This is the Lusitania watertight doors closed good not closed bad
1Historygenius 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this! I saw this such a long time ago and never thought I would see it again! This is a very amazing experiment.
TheTitanicLive 1 year ago
Interesting documentary, although as usual Ismay's role is greatly exaggerated. They've got him as some kind of dastardly megalomaniac, mastermind of an evil empire, ordering the captain to run the ship at breakneck speed, deliberately reducing the number of lifeboats for profit, and so on. I'm only surprised they didn't blame him for the iceberg.
FlaviusConstantius 1 year ago
@FlaviusConstantius Yeah other docu's have done a better job than this one (it was nice to see Bernard doing narration though as he was captain in the movie) , especially regarding Ismay's role. It turns out the policy back then was to move faster through ice fields and, in fact, the titanic was not going top speed. The other thing I did not like was the scale model sinking. While the dimensions were correct, the material and weight balance was not.
DLPBurke 4 days ago
Unfortunately, this "experiment" proves nothing other than that a plexiglass model of the Titanic would capsize if the watertight doors were open. Other than that, it was a complete waste of time. A real ship would behave differently and unpredictably. Perhaps it would've sunk sooner, like the experiment. Perhaps it would've floated much longer, like the Republic of 1909. We'll never know for sure. Bottom line, a real ship with corridors, furniture, food, people, etc. cannot be predicted.
shuichiboy 1 year ago
@shuichiboy what does furniture have to do with it?
the water tight compartments run in the hull of the ship!
you think water, food, people etc are going to have an impact...no!
maybe in weight differences but not the behaviour of the water flooding the ship.
celtagas 1 year ago
2:19 Damn, I can't help having some sympathy for that captain. His reputation is already destroyed, guilty of ignoring iceberg warnings, the weight of 1400-1500 souls on his nautical back. Bad captain! SHAME! He must be rolling in his grave. Oh but wait! Let's blame him for something else! I mean, he's DEAD! He's paid his dues.
fuschiadea 2 years ago
@fuschiadea They can't just blame the cpatian on everything like they do here. Leaving the watertight doors open sucks! The water quickly washes the boilers no wireless anymore and no lights to see in the night not to mention the captain DID do somethin about the iceberg warning he steamed 10 miles south to wear there were less icebergs.
1Historygenius 1 year ago
@1Historygenius What if I tell you the Captain was ORDERED to die with that ship? He was a Jesuit order member. That's all I can tell you, the rest, find your own.
maze311 1 year ago
@maze311 I don't recall the Captain ordered to die with the ship he had probrably wanted to die with the ship because there were not enough boats he knew he should not save his life if it meant taking someone else
1Historygenius 1 year ago
@1Historygenius No, you got my point wrong... Ill just go to the point: He was on a suicide mission to kill THREE of the richest men at the time, whose fame and money would prevent the bankers to create a central bank in America, the Federal Reserved Bank. You know the golden rule? He who has gold makes the rules ;D
maze311 1 year ago
@maze311 So who were the three millionares I am still confused how could he be on a suicide mission if the ship had enough boats everyone who live Bruce Ismay was the man to not give more lifeboats he was the man who ordered to speed up during the voyage Captain Smith steamed ten miles south to AVOID the Icebergs
1Historygenius 1 year ago
@1Historygenius I saw them in this series, but as I told you, I have watched thousand hours. I can't remember all of them... So you saying: to avoid hitting a kid in some sudden area, you would speed up in another direction that you have never been to to avoid hitting kids? Look, the Captain has 22 yrs of experience, he knew where he was going into. Plus, didn't i tell you the big gap should be filled by your own? because there's a lot going on....
maze311 1 year ago
@maze311 The Captian offcourse knew what he was going into he head he did not want to hit berg to kill thousands of innocent people just so the three millonares got money Ismay probrably speed up the ship to get more money and more passengers for future voyages he heard the Titanic could break the speed record he fought the icebergs were north far from the Titanic but drifting south Ismay belived he would speed up to save the ship from icebergs hitting
1Historygenius 1 year ago
@1Historygenius lol, what you just said were out of lead bro. I don't understand a thing. The 3 billionaires suppose to die, not go get money (?). The Captain KNEW THAT HES GOING TO DIE WITH THE SHIP AND BAD LUCK SOULS BECAUSE HE WAS ON A SUICIDE MISSION OMG
maze311 1 year ago
@maze311 Yeah I guess I should say good luck to the captain and his failed sucided mission against rich people he must had been a communist good day sir
1Historygenius 1 year ago
@1Historygenius LOL no, his mission was accomplished (three of the richest men mentioned and photos in the series were dead) because after that, the Federal Reserved System is created ever since to enslave the American forevah
maze311 1 year ago
@maze311 this is the dumbest shit ive ever heard.. please. spare us the holier than thou bullshit.. it was simply the ship hit the berg.. nothing more.. they didnt plan for the berg to be there.. he didnt do this on purpose.. and i see you truly believe what you're saying which makes you look even more pathetic and more of a dimwit fool
Ayersdawwgah 1 year ago
@Ayersdawwgah orly? How heavenly cute u dedicatedly, deliberately putting all your mighty jargon words in harmony. To be honest, your holiness enlighten me with extra sponsorship from your magnificent brain power which would definitely can be compared to Einstein's reproductive system's army of smarties. Conclusion: you really bring out yourself to the world. Peace be with you, my brah. May all the bestest dictionaries you can get your hands on so you can enlighten some more noobs like me. :D
maze311 1 year ago
if the watertight doors were open, would it have saved more people ?
Gencturk92 1 year ago
@Gencturk92 well, they kinda just answered that question, no. according to the experiment done in this video, she would've gone down quicker and capsized and there would've been even more lost of life
lovelydiva06 11 months ago
@fuschiadea yoh bro, he was a Jesuit Order member and he was ordered to die with the ship. I know there's a big gap in between to make my point, but i've spent thousand of hours watching many stuff. So, make your time :D
maze311 1 year ago
@fuschiadea You are aware that the experiment failed. They proved that what Captain Smith did helped the ship.
1Historygenius 2 months ago
Thats the way Brittanic sank
MasterBattle2000 2 years ago 2
@MasterBattle2000 The britannic is not comparable to titanic disaster because it had a huge ass piece blown away by a mine.
DLPBurke 4 days ago
Thanks for uploading this.
scrobin81 2 years ago
I remember watching this brand new in 1998, back when the craze of the movie sparked a new interest.
PianoKeysPlease 2 years ago
when was this aired? xxx thanks for uploading - it was fascinating
babygumm07 2 years ago
what a great loss of life and such an interesting story. Enjoyed every minute of this documentery although i think the experiment at the end wasnt exactly the same, as somebody mentioned earlier. Obviously the experiment had the watertite sectoins which were open spaces, where as in real life there was different floor level, corridors, doors etc. brilliant tho worth watching :)
TheJonnibwoi 5 months ago