Obama Healthcare Reform Debate

[sambel113]

i hate my health care I am canaidan

[CandieBarr6669]

@sambel113 You obviously hate the Canadian school system as well.

[readyjojoy]

85% of medical tecnology is made in the US private sector. Say goodbye to that. But Im optimistic that it will be repealed.

[farrelrj]

News flash byebyebelly! Big government = less freedom. The government has no right to tell us what we're going to buy or not buy. Get a clue! Limited government is why our country's the best. Keep your opinions about our country to yourself.

[univibe23]

I like the American Private System. I have a job--my employer pays for the bulk of the cost of my insurance as an incentive to keep me. I have the benefit of access to the worlds best medical system. The best medical schools and research centers are here--Doctors come Here from all over the world to learn-- we rarely go abroad to learn because the private system is one which encourages developing new surgical techniques & treatments. I wouldn't trade our system for any on the planet.

[TheHauptsturmfuhrer]

Health care is something you buy,not something your given as a right

if you can afford it,then you go for charity and that's YOUR own plight

When the government does anything,it's ALWAYS a disaster

and health care is something I decide and not a government master

[annemarie012002]

@TheHauptsturmfuhrer You are disgusting. One's health should NOT be based on their ability to pay. Wait until the day someone you know is diagnosed with cancer and they have LOST their benefits...then what? Guess they should sell their home to afford the beginning payments towards chemo, huh?

[TheHauptsturmfuhrer]

@annemarie012002 a life time spent sucking on the the government tit,

well ,I guess that's your way of living when your a complete half wit

I'm a Viet Nam vet with more Dr and hospital bills than you can believe,

and I still support all my children and pay ALL their bills that I receive

Wake up you fool,there is no free lunch and never has been,

It's just work till you die and leave what you got to the next of kin

[ByeByeBelly]

@TheHauptsturmfuhrer I've had government healthcare all my life & it's great. It's not free, it's 1.5% tax which is very affordable compared to the prices I'm hearing of private. You also need to realise that your government is ultimately in control of your private healthcare so why not cut out the money hungry insurance company middle men?

[lineswine]

@TheHauptsturmfuhrer you went to a conflict that was thousands of miles from home, so the USA & China could have a "war by proxy", on other peoples' land.

It's such a pity all the Chickenhawks in Congress found ways to defer their draft, leaving the fighting they love so much to the poorest 10% of the U.S. population?

(No mugs, these politicians).

So, what was it like, napalming villages & bayoneting babies?

No wonder you got your arses handed to you - you had no clue & no reason to be there.

[TheHauptsturmfuhrer]

@lineswine 120 degrees everyday in the pitch black jungle with the stench of death gurgling around you 24/7,while starving,with leaches sucking your blood and mosquito's as big as butterflies taking turns with water snakes and scorpions,in between bouts of dysentery,malaria and daily chronic fever and chills;that's how it was for 36 months +11 more as a POW-you cowardly half ass son of a bitch

[lineswine]

@TheHauptsturmfuhrer Meanwhile, the ones that sent you there are laughing their asses off, whilst their kids go to keggers at Ivy League colleges, their deferment safe & sound.

What a total mug you are. If you were captured, it just means you were a crap soldier.

Maybe, if you'd have stayed in your own country, instead of poking your nose 1/2 way round the world, you might not have encountered such conditions.

I'll play the violin for you.

In other words...stop whining, you fucking pussy.

[TheHauptsturmfuhrer]

@lineswine No one sent me-I volunteered-twice; and would gladly do it again tomorrow for the benefit it has given my country and me for the past 31/2 decades.Nothing is so worthwhile and completely exhilarating as to know your Right while extinguishing the life force of your enemy and not only killing him but destroying any future chance that his predecessors will infect future generations.I just wish you could have been there too.

[ByeByeBelly]

@TheHauptsturmfuhrer If you kind murder exhilarating, under any circumstances... you have a big problem.

[NoFxxxxxxWay]

oink oink a lot

[saratiffindinicola]

The American Medical Association admits killing 300,000/yr. by hospital negligence (their term!!!)—-.Add 200,000 killed every year by prescription medicine and the total amount is how many would (theoretically) have died if the VietNam War had lasted ONE HUNDRED YEARS!!!!!!! (50,000 died over ten years---do the math)..What kind of track record is that for the healthcare everyone is dying to get?

[k8tymem8ty]

I'm british i had public healthcare there for the past 20 years and being in america for a year my health care is now 100% BETTER than any i recieved in the UK.

Yes its free there but its better quality here.

They don't deny you drugs because they are not in the budget, they don't pass you off with less expensive options.

I think its ignorant for you to think that your opinion is the only one and for you to knock down every other person who commented and doesn't share you opinion.

[ByeByeBelly]

I clearly said that I have an opinion about it but the comments are open for debate... yes I'm fine with debate but I'm still going to express my opinion.

My hubby was denied everything in america so perhaps you pay for really expensive health care

[k8tymem8ty]

No i don't pay for really expensive health care i pay about $125 a month. And i have not been denied anything yet, i have been offered all the stuff i was denied in england.

My aunty had to come to the USA for cancer treatment to get a drug that england deemed to expensive and which ultimately saved her life.

And as for your opinion, you knock every person down saying they are wrong when actually they just have a different opinion than you. Thats not debate. Thats im right and your wrong.

[mryuck206]

id fuck you.

[shadowthehedgehog181]

ur sick >:P

[shadowthehedgehog181]

i'll tell you what i think: you're still a fatass

[ByeByeBelly]

Who cares? The skinny types that you lust after will be old in 20 years and no one will be 'hot' then, will they? Guess you'll have to chase after 20 yrds even when youre 80

[shadowthehedgehog181]

that won't be a bad idea. all i'll need is money. besides, i didn't say i prefer twigs; i just stated that you still look chunky ;D

[AHHRealTempest]

I thought she was really pretty. I agree with your argument completely :)

[FizzyBublech]

Hahaha, shadow probibly has a tiny penis which is why he is so angry. Personally, I prefer women who dont spend their lives puking in front of a toilette so they can attract guys like Shadow. The smell of vomit in the afternoons just doesn't do it for me.

[MrScheinert]

fat.

[FizzyBublech]

For the record, your comments are insightful and I love this discourse. I appreciate your opinions.

[ByeByeBelly]

Think of it this way. Would you rather go to a warehouse and buy a pair of shoes for $10, or go to some fancy shoe shop in a mall and pay $200 for that same pair of shoes? Private insurance is nothing but a corporation designed to take as much money from you as possible and spend the LEAST amount of money on you as possible

[ByeByeBelly]

My husband is American and he feels some Americans have been brainwashed that socialist = communist. The government is in control of healthcare in any country, whether citizens like to think so or not. Public healthcare is just cutting out the middle man (insurance companies) and getting the same standard of care cheaper. There's honestly nothing to be afraid of. Insurance companies aren't your friend.

[manbaby19k]

Nothing that the goverment does works.

[TheThekhayman]

@manbaby19k No nothing republicans do work lmao

[FizzyBublech]

Government run health care is a violation of our civil liberties. The constitution grants no power to the federal government to provide or oversee the healthcare of Americans, nor to tax the populace in order to provide free health care for others.

[ByeByeBelly]

The government is ultimately in control of everything, including your private healthcare.

People that receive public healthcare like in Australia, England, Canada, France etc... we are pro health care because we've experienced how it works. We pay SO much less and actually get MORE in terms of health care.

People just don't realise that the tiny tax we pay doesn't equal anywhere near what you pay for healthcare

AND we can have private healthcare if we want anyway.

[FizzyBublech]

Not true, the constitution limits the power of government, the control it has is given through the complacency of our elected officials.

You are right, our privatized system produces better overall care. And as you know, Americans effectively pay almost 40% of their income to the government in the way of taxes and fees which is why raising taxes will not cover the costs, you would have an outright rebellion on your hands and the country would spin into a deeper recession.

[ByeByeBelly]

What do you mean your privatized system produces better overall care?

[FizzyBublech]

Privatized systems that must compete provide better services at lower costs. This is economics 101.

[ByeByeBelly]

But I'm speaking from personal experience, having had private and public healthcare. I receieved better care in public hospital and it costs hardly anything, compared to private which costs a fortune. So I don't understand how you believe that private is better in any way

[FizzyBublech]

Because publicly funded service systems must not compete to keep customers and therefore, provide a lower quality of service. Here in the states, we have free health care clinics and they are horrible. Nobody in their right mind goes there as the people dont care because they dont have to worry about how they will pay their bills, they are fully funded and must not concern themselves with keeping their patients or customers happy.

[ByeByeBelly]

Private healthcare was a joke to me. It had so many conditions and limitations, for SO much more money than public. It was pathetic. I can't believe so many people are brainwashed into thinking that it's better for them

[FizzyBublech]

Well, I can understand your feeling about that but trust me when I tell you, maybe its just here in the States but I would never let the government anywhere near my healthcare. I would rather take care of it and be responsible for it myself.

[ByeByeBelly]

If I moved to America and was expected to pay the amounts they pay for healthcare there, I wouldn't have any health care. Like my husband, when he lived in the US he had absolutely no health care. He moved here & I'd take him to the doctor whenever he got sick. He kept asking, how much is the appointment, what's the premium, I kept saying you don't pay anything except your taxes and he couldn't believe it. He says having public healthcare is such a relief & he doesn't know how he lived before

[FizzyBublech]

I pay for my own health care, most young people can find a policy for around $100 a month that would cover their needs. I have never had a problem going to the doctor or getting treatment and neither has anyone else I know so Its hard for me to understand how this is such a problem. I dont know of any health insurance plan that requires more than $25 for an office visit. Mine is only $15 and I can go to any doctor I want regardless of what he or she charges.

[ByeByeBelly]

Because there's a lot of people who can't afford health care at all. And why should you pay for doctors visits on top of what you pay for insurance? And $100 per month is a ridiculous amount to pay for limited health insurance... you really wouldn't prefer paying a 1% tax and getting MORE than what private offers you?

[FizzyBublech]

@ByeByeBelly It is important to note is that the US Congress does not have the power to pass whatever law it thinks is "good for the people". its power to pass legislation is limited. This is the point missing in the health care debate. Does Congress even have the authority to pass such a bill. Just because a few, or even a majority, may think a piece of legislation is "good for the people" this does not mean Congress has been given the authority under the Constitution to pass the legislation.

[annemarie012002]

@FizzyBublech LOL! Most young people can NOT find a plan for that. Are you serious? I was quoted $700 by good ol Humana and I am only 27 years old. And I have NO health problems

[FizzyBublech]

@annemarie012002 I just checked Blue Cross website and found plans as low as $89 a month. If you want I can send you a link.

[ByeByeBelly]

@FizzyBublech That's sooo expensive, I wouldn't pay $89 per month for health care that I already get now! That's double my internet bill, double my electricity bill! I couldnt afford it. Thats not low cost, it's ridiculous, you're just so used to paying for health care that you think it's fine

[annemarie012002]

@FizzyBublech The key is "as low as"...I was already given a quote by them though... It was $250 which is better but I can't afford it. But thank you, for looking into it for me :)

[ByeByeBelly]

Your government taxes you more than our government taxes us, and you don't even get the health care. You pay more tax than us, WITHOUT healthcare, and then pay ridiculous amounts to insurance companies that barely cover you for anything and then demand premiums on top of that! Don't you think THAT violates your liberties, forcing you to live like that? What if you could get healthcare included in the tax you pay now & cut out your insurance company fees? That is how we live!

[FizzyBublech]

It does not violate liberties. The free market and its operation is not a violation of civil liberties, its supply in demand. The reason why we need insurance here is due the government requiring that hospitals in this country treat people for free. If they didnt have to treat people who could not prove they had ability to pay, our healthcare costs would be 1/10 of what they are. Another reason is Malpractice Insurance that costs doctors almost 50% of what they earn.

[saratiffindinicola]

So true..I would add that in the 1930's Rockefeller used his money & influence to establish colleges with the ONLY power to say who is, or who is not a doctor, while at the same time smearing any alternative or herbal medicine as quackery...Nowadays, if youre cured of diabetes or cancer by an alternative method, our corrupt news media wont report it..Since it's freely admitted that 500,000 die each year from our "wonderful" hospitals & prescriptions, why would we be afraid of an alternative?

[LiaRaye]

As a Christian, I look at instances in the Bible such as the good samaritan, as well many, many Bible verses instructing us to not put as much value on material assets and more on our follow man, and that leads me to my decision. How any self-proclaimed Christian could want to let the sick and underprivileged suffer without a guilty conscience is beyond me. It boggles my mind how many Americans want to just turn a blind eye to these people and make judgments that they are lazy (CONT.)

[LiaRaye]

when so many people are homeless due to mental sickness that wasn't covered and was too expensive to pay for out of pocket. Many of these are veterans with PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) who were denied the care that they are OWED for their sacrifices in Vietnam and WWII. So as a result, they cannot function normally anymore and lose their jobs because their mental health was left to deteriorate and affected their life dramatically. (CONT.)

[LiaRaye]

But people don't do any research, it's just safer to assume that everyone cheats the system, and there's no one out there deserving of help. I am a student and have worked manual labor and retail jobs for very little and I STILL don't mind my taxes going towards a program like this. A program that could help people. There are always going to be dishonest people in the world, but if one honest and deserving person can be helped because of my taxes, then I am glad.

[FizzyBublech]

@LiaRaye You do realize that wealth redistribution is unconstitutional? Taxing one person for the benefit of another is a violation of our civil liberties. Your heart is big, but you have not thought through your opinions.

[LiaRaye]

I think it's a basic human right for every citizen to have medical care. I have thought it through. I'd rather be caring and live moderately than be selfish and rich. That's my personal view. If this country can fund wars, it can fund the well-being of it's citizens.

[ByeByeBelly]

I agree. But you don't have to miss out on anything. In Australia we pay around 1.5% tax for our healthcare. So for 1.5%, you can go to a doctor whenever you want. You can go to the emergency room at any time. If you need urgent surgery, it's done. If you're in a car accident and you stay in hospital for a month... you never pay anything more than your tax. There are no premiums, there are no fees. We just pay for medications (unless you are a senior citizen, youth, disabled or earn a low income

[saratiffindinicola]

If it's a basic human right, then what about food, clothing & shelter?....I'm shocked you go along with funding wars, I'm not Christian and I don't believe in that!....I'd rather have my money the gov't steals so I could help build hospitals like Shriner's who won't accept gov't help...That's the only kind I respect

[ByeByeBelly]

It really isn't wealth distribution the way you're seeing it. Even extremely high income earners in Australia pay pennies for healthcare compared to what you pay for yours. The healthcare tax is so low that people do not notice it, whether they're on an average income or a high income. High income earners don't pay ridiculous amounts to support low income earners. It doesn't work like that. Everyone pays around 1 - 2% in tax, and we all get any health care we need.

[saratiffindinicola]

Jesus did NOT say for the government to help those who can't care for themselves, he said for YOU & ME as individuals to do it....Why would Jesus want us to send money to the government so they could waste most of it before it gets to the intended person?????????????If our gov't hadn't stolen 95-cents out of every dollar since the 1913 FED, we'd have plenty to help others.

[java0033]

wait you pay 1.5percent or 2.5 for high income ? I pay 6 percent of my income on my HMO and then I pay a Therapist 1x a week copays, and psychiatrist 1x every couple months copays, and when I get sick I pay and when I need drugs I pay. So this 1.5 percent and no copays is way economically reasonable. People ask how this is possible, and my answer is you don't have to pay share holders, everytime an american gets screwed by insurance, shareholders make profit and that is wrong.

[ByeByeBelly]

Yes, public healthcare is a LOT cheaper than private healthcare, and I have never received any lower standard of care in a public hospital. In fact, our public hospitals are where most of the state of the art facilities and best doctors are. We also have optional private healthcare. I don't understand people who are anti public healthcare. They are paying tens of thousands more per year to a money hungry company PLUS premiums when they get sick!!!!

[123elchino]

why is it that foreign people care about the US. you criticize us and then argue about our policies that have nothing to do with you. others should should be doing more on the war in Afg. and Iraq. al qaeda attacked other western countries and the tax payers of the US are burdening the majority of the  responsibility so that others can benefit form the blood of our people. the UN doesnt work worth a dam. This is more important than selling health care business to the US.

[ByeByeBelly]

Probably cause we foreign people think outside our own country.

[123elchino]

@ByeByeBelly im not try to come of as a hot headed american and im glad to have others opinions on the subject.

[Slayerfan84]

God bless Richard Nixon and his proposition of HMO's. No more affordable health care only medical bills and medical coverage denial by private insurance companies whom decide whether you get the surgery done or not! Fucking Thieves!

[UNIZEN]

No really what has the ama or the cdc cured lately.,what do they actually do?take this current situation with the swine flu scare.,ur alway hearing stuff like we were due for another pandemic,i.e. like the black plague or something like that.,its always we knew it would happen we just wasnt sure when or where,what do we really need them for?somebody help me understand please...

[UNIZEN]

Why do we even need any type of healthcare system anyway? isnt every person responsible for taking care of their own health.,i mean it seems hypocrical too expect the gov'or whom ever too assist us with the health that god gives us,besides it would seem that the medical profession has failed us,americans are getting sicker by the year.

[Emmalene]

So then ifd you need surgery, should it be your responsibility to do it yourself without the knowledge? Of course not. Why, then, should someone who cannot afford it due to whatever reason, be forced to suck it up?

In the line about God giving you health, God can also take away your health. The danger with that thinking is that if you think that way, you shouldn't fight cancer if God gives it to you.

You keep getting sicker because people can't afford preventative medicine.

[saratiffindinicola]

I agree...Our supposed "healthcare" kills 500,000 per year in hospitals & by prescriptions....AMA admits it....They've got most Americans so hooked on drugs, it's pathetic....People are getting cured of diabetes & cancer by alternative ways, but our corrupt media won't report it...They want us to believe we need surgery (1/2 the births are Cesaerian now---how can that be necessary?....They act like what we eat has nothing to do with it.

[Emmalene]

part of the large increase in c-sections is the weight of the mother's delivering. It is a sad fact that more and more people are obese. And, contrary to popular belief that bigger people would have an easier time - that isn't the case.

Though there are probably more elective c-sections as well, which is sad, but it happens

[whtrepblcn]

Our government needs a leader that can reform HEALTH, not health insurance. Help keep us out of hospitals. Instead, they want to control the business of healthcare with no interest in our actual health, because if we dont get sick, they dont get money. Sorry Canada, gonna have to find someplace else to go. I am.

[whtrepblcn]

(pt 1) At least she admitted to ignorance. Nicholas 9999 has it right! Obama is a clever POLITITION and the gov does plenty that works, until now. Its over giving millions of our dollars to sinking companies and calling it a stimulus. Didnt work, did it. And some people are still trusting this non-american.

[Emmalene]

Obama is American. I'm Canadian and I know that. Anything that says otherwise is just fear mongering. Also, the U.S. isn't the only country who gave stimulus packages...and in the past that is what has brought countries out of recession. Well, that and war. And that's not really going well for you guys either.

[saratiffindinicola]

Emmalene, I'll tell you what I think is "fearmongering": Our gov't lying to us for years on end that War and stimulus packages bring us out of recessions & depressions...Do you STUDY anything?...Do you have any COMMON SENSE?....Our Founding Fathers advised us NOT to intervene in other countries and NOT to have Central Banks (the FED)....Our problems would be so minimal if we had just followed those two things....We would have plenty of money as individuals to share with those less fortunate.

[Emmalene]

I'm Canadian...so no, I don't know much about American history.

What I do know (and yes it may have a biased spin on it) is that some people in the US have launched attack ads on the Canadian health care system without talking about all the good it does.

And I know my health care system isn't perfect, but I wouldn't trade it for private health care - I have too many medical problems to qualify for health insurance.

[saratiffindinicola]

I feel for your medical problems but wonder what if alternative care was available to you...My son-in-law spent thousands on tests, then went to alternative PhD who studied his iris and came up with the SAME INFO for a fraction the price, but insurance won't cover it....I was able to cure my diabetes through simple diet....Gov'ts typically CREATE THE PROBLEM (by not offering or allowing alternative healthcare), then OFFER THE SOLUTION (only AMA, which admittedly kills 500,000/yr.)

[Emmalene]

I have been sent to alternative care and it has been covered by my government. I've been sent to dietitians to fix the ADHD (didn't work, but I tried my best with it). I've been to different types of therapy, both medication related and not.

If a public health care system has worked everywhere else, why can't it work for you guys?

[saratiffindinicola]

Did your alternative care know how to read the iris of your eye?....Did your dietitian advise you to eat ANYTHING but REAL food (no preservatives or additives, no hormones or grain-fed meat or poultry (should be grass-fed), no sugar substitutes except herbs like stevia?....I appreciate your efforts on this site, but it hasn't convinced me that America should become socialist like "everywhere else" as you say....We're the last wobbly leg holding off the New World Order.

[whtrepblcn]

(pt 2) Give us two health plans if youre educated and have a fair to good job, you keep your good health insurance with HELP from the government to pay the premium. If youre a bum and dont contribute by not paying taxes, you get the crummy Obama-crap Care. He doesnt want it, neither do we. If you dont like it, get a job.

[Emmalene]

As a Canadian, I'd take the 'crummy crap Obama care' because then I know I'd have a doctor not worried about pushing the next drug company that is lining his pocket and is actually focused on my health care. I bet you would change your tune if you needed something that isn't covered by your health insurance

[jawj4291]

I believe we need a insurence where even the unemployed with no income can get medical cair. I agree with some parts of Obomas plan but not with outhers.

I can't afford any insurance and need dental badley.

[nicholas9999]

Here is the thing. Obama is a very very clever politician, and he wants to be re-elected in 2012. If he helped create a public system that didn't work or was too expensive for poor people, then he could not get re-elected. The medical profession in general seems to be for the plan. I think we should be positive about the whole thing, it's gonna work (and the government does plenty that "works," contrary to popular belief).

[RelaxxKiller]

I am very ignorant in this issue, all I know is this. I have 3 grown daughters, 2 of which are not insured, Yes, if ill they can go to the hospital and get care, BUT, then get billed a STUPID amount and have 2 choices, pay it or get sued. Right now, to be put on medicade is not a choice, you have to be dirt poor to qualified. My oldest is 26 and a private teacher, medicare says she makes too much!! she makes 10.00 an hour!!!! her employer does nor offer healthcare. So, what is her choices!!

[FaddleonLSD]

Problem in America is there only a weak public health care system to compete against the private system, which means they have the highest health care cost per capita in the Western world.

Obama is seeking to strengthen the public system to provide more competition amongst health care providers, with the aim of bringing those costs down.

Of course it doesn't suit the health insurance industry to see competition among their fatcat ranks so they among others standing to lose are against it.

[macomarell]

Nobody can be denied health care in the US. This has been in place for years.

Why do people from other countries with socialized medicine go to the US for treatment? It is simple, because they can get the treatment without government red tape. Happens all the time.

[ByeByeBelly]

Wow, I've never heard about people going to the US for treatment. I know of people who go to third world countries for cosmetic surgery and gender reassignment because it's cheap, but have never heard anyone going to the US for anything.

[FaddleonLSD]

Yeah and on top of that they'll get called 'illegal alien'.

[WillaCather]

In the past maybe 2 years, conservatives have been publicizing the very rare occurrence of people coming to the US because they don't like their own healthcare. In truth, I've never met anyone in the medical community who has actually knowingly treated someone fitting this criteria. I think its distorted reality that Canadians, and Europeans are coming her for healthcare.

[chrycohauler]

guess again my friend..Canadians are flocking tho the US in drove..I know bewcause I live in a border city acroos from Detroit..if you need heart treatmnet of any kind that's where we go ..you'll die waiting here

[WillaCather]

Well I don't know about "droves" really, its kind of hard to find actual numbers. I do know that there are over a million Americans in California who travel out of the country to get healthcare. Besides, the people who can afford to leave the country for healthcare aren't the problem. It's the broke people who work but can't afford to have simple things fixed. I work with the poor I see this every day.

[Emmalene]

Canadians do no go in droves to the us BUT when they do go for treatment, nine out of ten times our government is PAYING for it. If the waiting lists are too long here, our system will pay for your treatment if you can secure it elsewhere

[xiola6969]

I have heard this a lot, Quality Affordable healthcare for all Americans, Thats sounds great why would anyone say no? Affordable is very vague word, Quality again another intangible or indefinable. The silver forked tongue of politicians should never be trusted until we see the true numbers,

[Emmalene]

I'm pro health care reform...even though I am Canadian. Actually it's because I am Canadian. Health care is a right. The US has more people with no health coverage than Canada has people! That is a problem!

People who are against it probably have never had a serious health care problem...because good luck paying your premiums once you get cancer.

[ByeByeBelly]

Australia has similar healthcare to Canada... and if our countries can do it, why can't the US?

Besides, if someone REALLY wanted private health care, they can just PAY for it like they were before. But people are acting like they won't be allowed to have private healthcare.

The government already has control of our lives, including healthcare, whether it's private or not.

[WillaCather]

I am pro healthcare reform! I think we're just afraid of what we don't know but really we can't sustain our current system. Medicare and Medicaid work pretty well.

[ByeByeBelly]

Yeah, I think people are scared. But the government already has its nose in private healthcare... PLUS you have the money hungry insurance companies. I'd rather just have government healthcare, cut out the middle man. But people don't realise what their private healthcare actually is. It's just another dirty business, out to make money. That's not having choices, that's not real options. That's sick.

[emfada]

Whats wrong with giving people a choice ???

[GiaHoliday]

NO TO OBAMACARE! It's a bunch of bullshit and all the positives are simply not plausible. It will create more ruin.

[Emmalene]

Based on what evidence?

[poydrascanal]

I would suggest that all American's that want government provided healthcare emigrate to Australia. I wonder how that would work. In the US they spend 15% on healthcare. In Australia you pay 1.5% I can only imagine that certain procedures aren't allowed there.

[ByeByeBelly]

Certain procedures?

[Emmalene]

They spend 15% on health care that 33 million people can't afford. THAT'S fair.

[discountbacon]

Free health care would be lovely; however, sadly enough, many Americans (including me) just do not trust the government.

I honestly don't believe that this government has a solitary clue on how to operate it, let alone even come up with a frickin' plausible plan. I know for one, that they'll definitely be ignorant enough not to do it in a similar fashion to how other countries handle socialized health care (successfully). In the end, we'll continue to be cheated someway or another.

[ByeByeBelly]

It's true that the government can't be trusted... but they already control our lives, including private healthcare. The government is at the pinnacle of everything. But it's a better option to get decent healthcare for 1.5% tax, instead of paying ridiculous amounts per month for private. Even if people still want private, they should have public healthcare to fall back on, as an option.

[MrRight41]

I dont want the government to but its business in my healthcare.. You cant trust government- Cause no matter what they do, they fuck it up! No to Obamacare!

[Emmalene]

so no to people who can't pay for their healthcare? No to people whose insurance has decided that certain life saving procedures will not be covered?

The government won't make it perfect...but it will make it better than the current system

[IreneMcintosh]

the government won't make it better. they will make it worse.

[Emmalene]

My question is worse for who? The people who have to choose between setting broken bones or their next semester's tuition? The United States is the ONLY developed country without a universal health care system. Ask anyone in any country with one and they usually say it is one of the reasons they are proud of their country

[GravelBackMechanic]

It's my birthday today. Thanks for making a video on my birthday.

[ByeByeBelly]

Happy birthday!