"Torn Curtain" Fight w/ John Barry music

[theymusthatetesla]

For fuck's sake, just hit the Stasi shit with the shovel!.....Jeez!

[enemyofbohemia]

Haha, nice. I made sort of a video tribute to the lady in this scene, because she's just so....crazy. And I used a John Barry cue from Thunderball for a few seconds.

[blofeld39]

Nice; thank you for the comment. :-)

[bodywatch1]

torn curtain with james bond music - no!!??!!

[blofeld39]

Believe it or not, John Barry was an excellent composer in his own right. ;-)

[drew102065]

interesting but not nearly as effective as the original version of the film.

[blofeld39]

Really? If anything, I think the suble strings and horns as the woman picks up the knife and walks over to Gromek implies the suggestion that she knows what she's doing is wrong, but she has to do it, and it's THAT undercurrent of tension that was missing from both Herrmann and Addison's cues for the scene... which is why Hitchcock discarded both.

[drew102065]

A good point but the fight sound efx are also a very effective method of scoring. In your version, the low strings work well as a motor but IMHO the brass hits are too much for the scene. The brass could be replaced by woods and viola arrangements and be a little more effective--but this is only my opinion. :) In today's films, I think your example would be required for the scene. A lot of directors today get nervous when there is no underscore...or not enough of it!

[blofeld39]

I guess John Barry's scoring was ahead of its time, then. :-)

I also think the scene would have played out better without Gromek's stupid asides; hence, why there's no dialogue in my finished scene.

[drew102065]

One thing is for sure, Barry surely does have a trademark sound, doesn't he? ;)

[blofeld39]

He does, indeed, and it really helps some of the weaker films he's scored, such as "Moonraker" or "You Only Live Twice", achieve some level of tension and beauty; that sort of scoring could have helped "Torn Curtain" immensely.

[marksecunda]

Wow, I just found some guy over on the right there who did it recently and posted them! Good, 'cause they were Beta tapes and I'll never be able to play them again!

[blofeld39]

Awesome! I'm just a big fan of John Barry so I wanted to theorize how a replacement score of his might have sounded in this scene.

[marksecunda]

I actually did this with the Herrmann score about 20 years ago. Using the notes on the lp and two vcrs, I tried to get it all where it was supposed to be, except sometimes it would step on the John Addison score. Man, I wish I had that much time to kill now...

[muschnik1961]

It makes it soooooooo much better!

[blofeld39]

Thanks a lot! :)