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  • I would love to have this type of conversation with somebody

  • Rihanna is 50 lol. Rihanna is fake no taleent just good lookin n is a creation. She's all an image.

  • pop culture fans will eat what ever is told is "good". eminem said here eat this!

  • Keyshia Cole - fell off

    Rihanna - still scorching hot

    Beyonce - in hiding

    50 Cent - fell off

    Jadakiss - fell off

    2 years later, who's right?

  • i love how he said "SAYS THE NUMBERS NUGGA"!! LOL

  • Am I the only one that doesn't think em is the best alive ? He's one of the best but not number 1 I don't even know if there is a number 1.

  • Beyonce is now the second not a big difference

  • Im not comin at my nigga joe but i thought he was a rapper i really hope that isnt his house i mean i know he aint like a multi millionaire but i expect him to have at least like you know 500k? well maybe im wrong lemme know.

  • @kingofkings417 He was alwayz eatin off his talent but not like we would hope at hat time but he is now tho

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  • MAYBE THAT BITCH QUITS! LMAOO

  • Joe has a point...He just had difficulty explaining it Lol..

  • yo i fuq wit dat metaphor..... about da alley oop and 50.... rappers be havin the sickest metaphors wen arguin.......

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  • how does this work?

  • Nelly isn't makin guop.

    Lets not get crazy here

    LOL

  • is joe the only hip hop artist making vidios like this?

    I think he's got somthing here LOL

    It's great " LOL

    I think other rappers should do this shit' too

  • yo beyonce will be here for years and years to come and shes more talented than rihanna but rihanna is good to but imma go wit beyonce

  • Where's Ashanti HA HA!!!

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  • I like how he says Em is the best rapper alive, Thats nice to know he knows his stuff,

  • @Bendzzy

    yeah that and he might get signed to his label so...he needs to plug.

  • Had no idea.

  • This asshole can shut the fuck up. Keyshia Cole is Better than Rhianna and I love Rhianna. Beyonce is a sell out. Selling her soul to the white people. That's so LAME. Jadakiss is okay. 50 Cent wouldn't be shit without EM and DRE.

  • Beyonce can't sing niether can Rhianna that's why they sell, cuz people who can't sing and can't rap sell records, Keisha can sing her ass off. I'm with mouse on this one. For the record color doesn't have anything to do with 50 and Jada. 50 can sell because 14 year old kids can relate to his shit, Jada is hood. Flat out

  • You are crazy if you say Beyonce cant sing. Rihanna can't sing...i agree...but neither can keyshia...

  • Keyshia Cole can sing, she writes and produces all her songs. Beyonce is LAME WACK ASS WEAVE WEARING ASS BITCH... Pleas read the comments that I put on this about her.

  • lmao MAYBE THT BITCH QUITS haha hellz naw hahah

  • I feel both artists but I feel Keyshia has more presence due to work ethic

  • joe u r sooooooo rite!!!!!

  • nah joeys right about the irreplaceble ish, but rihanna is set up only cause shes a underling under jay

  • starting off u gotta be set good... but the rest u gotta do on ur own...... like with 50 he a business man right now & rappin & doin movies while Jada hasnt really been doing shit so nobody really checkin for him... same goes with rihanna & keyshia.. its not all about white & black fanbases but it is a contributing factor..

  • i agree with joe..the other cat is whack as fuck..fan on your nuts type of the dude

  • to set the record straight to everyone, there is white people who know and appreciate good rap. not the mainstream. REAL RAP. im white and joey is my favorite rapper.

  • a fucking men dude im white but the majority of whites that listen to rap/hiphop are sheep and its not gonna change anytime soon sorry to say unless something BIG happens

  • true

  • @revolutionaryverse i'm white too and at my school every race dick rides mainstream. I'll never do that. Peace.

  • @HardLikeKimboSlice mmm same

    i love the slaughterhouse crew, and jadakiss as well as the rest of the LOX are also some of my favorite

  • I think Joe Buddens is the shit but he needs a house keeper!

  • @MARXISIII LOL

  • Hilarious how dude tightens up his language when the girl says bitch. Men and women LOL

  • very interesting

  • b got a point about jada bein with puff. cuz back then bad boy was all that matters.

  • kinda weird how they say white people as if all whites listen to 50 cent n that dumb shit, i'm white and i don't listen to any of that.

  • No, they're just saying that's where the numbers are. White people are the majority of the population, so that demographic has the strongest influence on the performance of the record.

  • the sheep white people do i.e slaves to the machine

    ps im white too

  • I see dudes point. Once an artist gets so big it may be to late to stop "the machine.'

    Most fans buy their favorite artist's CD regardless. 50's fans don't care about talent. they car about image and marketing. Unfortunately that is most of the people who buy CD's. They play 50 on the radio more than Kiss so he's better.

    Bey doesn't write 90% of the shit she sings yet she lists her name as a writer and her fans don't know the difference. She told people she wrote "irreplacable." YEAH?????

  • Most fans don't have a brain!!!!

    Radio is controlled by marketing. They play the same song over and over ("Play it until they like it")

    50 sucks but white america buys his albums. by white america I mean suburb dwellers who only listen to the pop/marketed rap artist songs on the radio station.

    Jadakiss = BET

    50 = MTV, MTV2, VH1, Etc.

  • amen man im white and its pathetic all the stupid fucks that think soldja bitch is a hiphop artist

  • Nigga this convo they had gets 5 stars. Cause it reminds me of me n my boys talking about who's better in sports. Hahahah funny shit

  • they know jadakiss!!!!!

  • "Its different with bitches" roflmfao

  • LMFAO that Nelly part was hilarious

  • wow joe budden got the only point! 50 was set up better.

  • Whoa whoa lets not get crazy...with Nelly lol

  • 0:17 LMAO!!!

  • lol...."that bitch" ... "that bitch" lmao....

  • @ 1:23 see now yu gonna go into some deep music shit that i know nothin about im jus a fan!

    lmao

  • what what happen to beyonce

  • Fuck the race-shit "Nah he ain't cool 'cause all his fans are white.." like if we white ppl don't know hiphop. This muthafucka be like "They know Puff, the know 50".. bitch I know Royce, Joell and Crook too and they are in Slaughterhouse! And I didn't even like Budden before becuase he was too comercial! I think he's dope now, tho. Muthafucka one of my favorite rappers is Big L! I got "The Infamous" at home, and Im a 15-year old whiteboy. So don't come here and be like "They only know bout 50"

  • i know where u comin from but when they say "white ppl" they mean majority of white kids (or "white america"). I'm black and i barely know anything bout Big L lol and most white ppl don't nothin bout him. you are a dime a dozen whiteboy lol cuz alot of them that i know listenin to that soulja boy, gucci maine and all that other wack stuff

  • this made me lol all way thru, realy getin pist of with each other haha good stuff,

    1st. Beyonce

    2nd. Rihanna

    then 3rd? outside ov the us keyshia cole aint that big, id probly say ciara is bigger so id even put her over keyshia

  • plus Jada was meant to be part of a group which for a solo career isnt too good a setup

  • im white from scotland and im a jada fan

  • wait.!

    beyonce isn't still the hottest chick in the game!? as far as i can tell, she is.!

    rihanna is very marketable, thats for sure

    but beyonce is clearly better.

    and keyshia cole can sing now??? smh. wow,.. lol

  • Is that their hous?

    Damn!, it's junky/dirty!

  • regarding the 50 cent got more fans then jada it's cos 50 cent inherited eminem fans.

  • "woah woah woah thats not be crazy ok!"

  • I agree with Mouse..."To da left to da left"..lol..did kinda keep Beyonce above water...cauz ppl like keyshia cole and Rihanna was smashing the game....

  • when she said joey b tv that sounded nice... u should add that

  • "Says the numbers! NIGGA!" Lmao

  • Keyshia Cole All Day

  • You don't even know what you're talking about anymore.

  • he's right bout 50 and jada

  • BECAUSE - when they both were in GREAT SPOTS....50 was a "solo" artist, and JADA was in a "group". When Jada went solo...he was in a bad postition with Ruff Ryders since there team split.

    PS. Keishia over Rihanna due to the Machine Rihanna is hooked up to...can be UNPLUGGED.

  • ill take mary j blidge #1 any era !!!!

  • Whoever Budden is arguing with is on point... Whether 50 or Jada.. .they both had a foundation... thats why we even know them.... Do you know how many acts are out there... and don't havethe opportunity. 50 ran with it!

  • Rihanna Aint consistent, she barely "made it" after three CDs in, Keyshia hit big with her 1st CD, n is hella consistent with making hits, and Good albums.

  • Lol. How about you're spending too much time typing out hate to someone who laughs at comments like yours on the regular.

    How about that nigga?

  • hes so broke ass he gets paid off youtube views .. how bout dat nigga ..

    im laughing at him too homie .. 90% of hiphop is .. and maybe is because i can ..im on here.i will. call it charity . his next album should be called i can i borrow a dollar prt 2 .

    how bout that??

  • You're not too smart. Before you get lost, stop reaching.

  • dont need to be smart to know that u are a peon. what does being lost have to do with anything ??? i bet u sound the audio preview in this youtube ... now go play somewhere .. go hold joeys dick .. mind ur biz .. be

  • what a looser .. u sound worse than audio preview ..

  • Maybe that bitch quits.... lol joey is the mann

  • lol rihanna aint got shit on keyshia cole...rihanna not can sing!!!!!!!!

  • Jada eats 50 any day c'mon if Rick Ross eats 50 we damn sure know that both Joe and Jada kill that punk ass commercial rapper

  • KEYSHIA COLE !!!

  • bitches what?

    sry pardon me

    :D rofl

  • LOLL Joe Budden's arguments always have me rollin ... this shit, the Vibe "best rapper bracket" shit... haha aw man, i fuckin LOVE Joe Budden TV!!!!!

  • are they really that serious

  • true talk joe

  • In My Hood, Everybody Listen to Kiesha Cole.. lol

  • I swear there is no better argument than an argument about hip hop. But to me Jada is the better rapper 50 is a better at marketing himself plus havin em n dre on the team didnt hurt when jada was on Bad Boy he was alway in the group so he didnt have a chance to promote himself. Also keyshia cole is a way better singer Rihanna is mostly popular cuz of looks she doesnt even sing she basically talks. Gotta love the girl tryin to stop them from saying bitch after they already said it like 10 times.

  • 50 go hard

  • This dude actin like 50 didnt sign to eminem( A WHITE RAPPER WITH A HUGE WHITE FAN BASE) at a time when Em was hot on the charts (2000-2002). Most of eminems success helped fifty sell all those record because those white fans know that hes with a popular rapper.

    As with Jada, he was with puff back in the mid 90s where the lox were overshadowed by mase and B.I.G. And when the lox signed to ruff ryders , DMX and EVE were the ones selling the most records

  • yea lox was overshawdowed by x & eve but they went platnium wit we are the streets

  • Plus the argument about 'irrepaceable' saving the bday album is wack,coz her album had already reach 2x platinum domestically and 4mil worldwide b4 'irreplaceable' was released. Also WTF do you think the song is supposed to do?!? Hello...it is suppose to promote the freaking album!

  • Sorry Beyonce is STILL the hottest chick in the game! Rihanna could NEVER come for Beyonce. In the past 5months, Beyonce has had #1 movie, #1 album and #1 song. Plus on top that,Beyonce headlining her third successful worldwide tour. Ain't no chick doing it big like Beyonce.

  • excuse me, i like rihanna but your not the hottest chic in the game off of one album, im sorry beyonce is the queen of current r&b, and bday was 4x ww and 2xplat in us b4 irreplaceable was ever released, plus rihanna cant even headline arena tours n america bey can plus worldwide, bey has the most #1's this decade and the most top 10 hits this decade..beyonce has one of the strongest followings today

  • Yall got it fucked up, Beyonce is still the hottest chick in the game. Rihanna has only ONE hot album out of four. Beyonce has 3 number one albums, and she has never flopped. Beyonce is pretty much a legend. Rihanna isn;t quite up there yet..

  • IKR!!!

    I'm soo sick of people trying to play bee!!!

    Rihanna had ONE GOOD ALBUM That she release 3times..SMH!!!

    Don't get me wrong I like GGGB, but Bee will always bee that BISH!!!

  • Wow rappers have WAY too much time on their hands and too little to talk about XD

  • this convoo funny as hell!!!!

    "Maybe Chris Brown tells tat bitch 2 quit her job" FAF!

  • Did your boy see how many misses Rihanna had before we got that fn Umbrella. And she had to fight with MJB to even get the song( which in Mary's hands would be a enternal burner). How much money did Jay and Def Jam have to spend on gold and almost gold albums when Keyshia hit str8 outta the gate. You gotta pay people to write for Rihanna, not so for Keyshia. And Keyshia is gettin that world wode following now with that BET reality show. Im with Joe on this one

  • intelligent debate

  • yo son tht wa mad funny

    MAYBE THAT BITCH QUITS.!!!1

  • maybe chris brown SAYz quit your job tomorrow wowie major trip.......maybe that bitch quits ha ha and then the chick filmin is like BITTCCH??,,,moral of this endless argument.....its all about consistency

  • "where's ashanti !?" - r o t F .

  • i died when he said '' what if chris tell rhianna to quit part too funny

  • Keisha cole can dance better and sing better than Rihanna so the Talent goes to Keisha Cole period!

    and BEYONCE IS STILL the hottest female in the game because no other female will see her numbers. SHE DOESN'T EVEN DO FEATURES ON OTHER PEOPLES ALBUMS BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO.

  • LMFAOOOo Yoo this shit is halrious

  • Keychia Cole!!!

  • This is hilarious. I'm going with 50 and Rihanna and Beyonce. They are all going to sell until they die. Not to mention, Keyshia Cole could have stayed on top as long as Rihanna did off ONE record. They remixed, remastered and released that ONE record 50 billion times. Is she more talented than Keyshia? No, just more marketable. And 50 will bring in loot from all areas: movies, endorsements, music, video games, his freakin' ABS will make more money than Jada's LOL. It ain't fair, it's business.

  • Dang, that was Keyshia could NOT have stayed on top that one off one record.

  • Great 2 part debate. I have to agree with Joe on everything. I know for me being a person who is about talent as I have to say that it's relatively easy to spot an artist/entertainer etc. who is a MEDIA CREATION.

    Beyonce, Rhianna, 50cent, etc are CREATIONS.

  • 50 cent could sell more than jada YES... BUT LYRICLY hell no 50 aint winnin shit... dont beleave the hype.... and diddy kills peopls career's look at the people come to bad boi then leave. B.I.G. made bad boi he was the shit n now lil kim is slowly comin back

  • talent over bubble gum shit real talk... long-lasting careers is what these artist today should be about not... one hit wonders lol...how can you live with yourself after know that you was a one-hit wonder, performing that ONLY song that you had was hot lol.... horrible feeling

  • im only a min into this but why you americans gotta make everything about being black or white.... you put too much ownership on race.

    fucking ignorant mentality man... regardless of wether you're all segregated from each other why dont you say "50 has more FANS than jadakiss"? why has it gotta be "he's got more white fans"... lol shits retarded

  • Because it's TRUE lol.

    Jadakiss doesn't sell more than 50, Eminem (etc) because they have white america. Kids out in the country, suburbs and all over the world, it's a HUGE difference.

    I honestly don't even know why I'm debating this when this is COMMON KNOWLEDGE. It has nonthing to do with "putting ownership on race".

  • i dont kno why you're debating it either. did i say wether his statement was true or false?

    at the end of the day he has more FANS than jada. simple... it has nothing to do with race, absolutely nothing. just more people prefer 50 over jada.... its just a preference. its not based on your friggin heritage... jeeez

  • Yo...If you're going to sit here and deny that race plays apart in alot of aspects in life and want to turn a blind eye to so we can "all just get along", then it's no point of me talking to you about this anymore. You're entitled to your own opinion, but you're wrong...lol.

    That's like saying, Obama didn't win the election because of white voters when EVEN POLITICAL ANALYSTS WILL ADMIT THAT WAS WHY. Jada won't be as big as Em or 50 because he doesn't have the burbs buying his album. Bye Bye.

  • loool am i sayin that either? lool.... you sure know how to debate on everything but the facts of the argument... you should be a politician!

    but while we're on the subject. why does it have to be about white voters voting for Obama? why cant it be more AMERICANS voted for Obama than the next candidate. It just proves my point. That americans put toooooo much ownership on race.

  • Because it's simply just not the truth. It's because of White people voting for him (thus, white people buying your album, you will make more money).

    I see your point HONESTLY, but I'm just the type of person to call a spade a spade.

  • it does have 2 do with race. 50 does a lot of songs that r pop oriented n we all kno the white population is pop craze lik blacks r hip hop craze. fact is pop music has larger audience which is white.

  • no it has to do with POPULAR culture. think about it for a second.... if something is more popular what does that mean?

    50 cent happens to make a style of music that is more popular with the masses. POPular music. this is the reason he has more FANS. simple

    oh and if you go to any hiphop show... what are 90% of the crowds made up of?

  • is that dude on the floor gay =(

  • isn't that a girl

  • LOL green shirt dude lol

  • talent stays forever ill take keyshia cole

  • To be real...When 50 first came out, He was mega huge everybody was checkin for him and he had that fresh new sound ppl were searchin' for, Jada was always a good artist but his appeal was and will never be as big as 50's because 50 had a way better situation and a stronger backing, jada's Image is far from 50's even though 50 isn't making hot music at this time he's still doin' somethin' to make his presence know in the business, He also has a better brand and product than jada does,

  • I agree 50s mixtape buzz was bigger than some people's entire career. Even with the industry cats hating him, he still made money from his trunk. Not everyone can do that.

  • Were is the continuation from the draft video recorded after this? There needs to be a part 3, maybe 4!

    And dude was off saying Jadakiss on Bad Boy 97 was the same as 50 on Shady/Aftermath 03.

    1) If you compare sales Dre/Em >>> Puff/BIG/Ma$e

    2) Jadakiss wasn't known as Jadakiss in 97. He was known as 1/3 of THE LOX.

    3) 50 was actually pushed as a solo artist coming out. It wasn't just G-Unit it was 50 CENT

  • i can watch shit like this allday

  • Word, I love intelligent debates.

  • I agree with joe on everything..he was right about it all..n 50 2 kiss 50 is set up just right where hes great..he can do anything. he can be hot to day and be hot tommrow because he with the right people..50 can sell out anywhere if he want because of hes fanbase to kiss nobody probly would of had knew about him to diddy. and ruff

  • Jadakiss album "The Last Kiss" good as hell and real shit....50 cent music fuckin WACK and for white kids....fuck white money!!!!!!

    Ruff Ryders the best and my shit!!!!!

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  • entertaining like a mutha fucka !!

  • says the numbers nigga......

    that dude aint playin

  • This is TV!!!!!

  • MAYBE THAT BITCH QUITS!!!....fuckin' hilarious. Joe is a serious issue, but i do believe him though. I'd pick Keisha too

  • jada is not that sucessful because he is fat and shaved his head bald. but a good rapper. 50 on the other hand has a huge brand G-unit and has cool images that's why. sound alone cant make you sucessful you must have image that's good

  • jada isn't successful because he's fat and bald?!? what a stupid cunt. kill yourself. PLEASE. kill yourself for saying that stupidness. biggie was fat. pun was fat. ll was bald. officer ricky is another topic. jada is a better spitter but 50 is more marketable because of his shit..i.e shot 9 times.

  • lol! Chris Brown might do that

  • Why Doesnt He Have A Show Yet?

  • Wow I Would Love to Have A Convo With You Guys about this, I Argue with my friends all the time about drake

  • yea but nobody wants to talk to you though.

  • but hold up though, Mister 5th is on some dick right now

  • You can't know people for putting themselves in a better situation...50 could have easily settled and fell to the way side when he didn't buble on Columbia or with the Trackmasters..same as yourself Joe..don't stop your grind.. Jada had chances.. Killa B was right..he was in a hot spot at one time...

  • Joe U my fav..but U wrong on 50 U even said that you remember 50 in Onyx video with trackmasters but U forgot to add his mixtape game he revolutionized it all that said to say...he was not set up - 50 SET HIMSELF UP you have to remember Em and Dre didn't discover 50 they didn't create that He was on the grind...then had the talent yes talent may not be a lyracist but he makes hit songs but he learned the business and he excelled like no other"I got a meal out the deal and I'm still on the grind"

  • yo dat lite ckin dude in that video is a clown....buddenz y u got all these lamez around tahiry

  • y du u tipe lyke dizz huh? lurn 2 tipe praperrlee. you stupid clown. lord jesus.

  • All I have to say about this is that I personally think that Keyshia Cole can't sing to save her life, and that I'd take Rihanna over her any day (which is sad, 'cuz I don't like Rihanna's music, either). Other than that, I see where Killa BH is coming from with the 50 Cent/Jadakiss point of view.

  • hmm the jada 50 argument didnt hold no water in my eyes, 50 before he signed to aftermath was as grimey as jada, the only thing i can think of that he was probably more versatile than jada was-i couldnt really see jada goin to aftermath as a solo artist and achieving the same level of succes as 50 did. Sayin that ive never seen the hype around jada all my life ive heard ppl claim hes one of the best but to me hes just an average rapper

  • This conversation and the one he had with fabolous in the barbershop i wish i was there

  • yea those were good shit to listen to. Word Fab is falling off, too many girl songs.

    Fabolous - One Day <-- tough song.

  • yeah nelly getting gwop that girl brazy lmaoo

  • lame..weres da ass at.

  • conclusion:

    go with the most marketable product

  • lmao. this was a great argument..but when Joe was sayed "to the left to the left saved that bitches life" i died haha.....Jada has better lyrical content and his mixtape game is crazy but 50 just a business man and gets money and was put in the perfect situation backed by em in dre...while jada was more in the shadow of big

  • Are you serious!!! We are talking about Beyonce here...beyonce stays with hits!!!! Stays with hits!!!!!! You should never compare Keisha Cole or Rihanna to Beyonce...and these two females for sure have alot to achieve!! Beyonce is still number 1 and then you have Ciara, Rihanna, keisha Cole, and then you can bring Keri Hilson too this.....

  • valid point

  • Keri Hilson can't sing to me at all......i think her fame is luck.......Ciara isn't the best singer either but she can dance and perform her ass off

  • I 100 % agree with joe budden

    I think that white people have raped afro-american culture.

    RIP original black music!

  • get a life

  • Man this light-skinned cat is the reason why things are the way it is right now.....I agree with Joe 100%. His argument is numbers and not talent.

  • i agree with joe

  • Is that Angie martinez holding the camera? sounds like her

  • :55,  "Exactly, Eg-FUCKIN'-Zackly!!" lol

  • lol

  • that bitch has a following of a. . . nigga

  • 50 cent blew up because of eminem....

  • JAda In Stores now, The Album of year go Buy it!!!!!!!!!!

  • whoa whoa lets not get crazy here fuckin funny man