Starcraft 2 Sneaking In Infestor Demostration

[Starcraft2LovesHusky]

Fake and not infestors there fattys or swarm host wat ever u call it still boo I'm a Zerg unit expert

[xDanielWangx]

So.... what happens if you use that on a hatchery? or stargate? :O

[DarkProtoss123]

a bit overkill, isnt it?

[ImperatorZed]

erm, yes?

[ImperatorZed]

I want this back :P

[sangyuni96]

they never had this ability available for players i think

[ImperatorZed]

@sangyuni96 you're using logic, a concept that does not belong to this discussion.

[sangyuni96]

you said you want this 'back', back from what? Pre-alpha footage?

[Jefferyxu45]

Infestors make no sence from a lore perspective.

[thisisatonofbs]

I'm glad this never made it out of Beta.... as that is way too OP

[krukur]

This is nothing compared to the real thing... 

[mockow3]

lol :D

[LolCaramelz]

Wow, this is fucking retarded imbalanced. Lol.

[megastagbeetle]

I wish the investor did the infested marines like this

[jamesjr0204]

WHY BILLZARD THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT!!

[02684139755]

Well if they just made it take longer to infest it would've balanced and added a lot more strat to Zerg.

[SuperFREEXBOXLIVECOD]

@02684139755 stfu you stupid idiot, srsly

[kuulyn]

actually, those units have the Swarm Host model, thus, they are not infestors, contrary to the title of this video, they are a different creature.

[CerberusT93]

@kuulyn it was the infestor until this model was replaced by the current model. they simply re-labled the old model as the Swarm Host, look it up on starcraft wiki.

[kuulyn]

@CerberusT93 ahh, didnt know that, thanks though! :)

[CerberusT93]

@kuulyn you're welcome =).

[Nebuli2]

@CerberusT93 Nope, you got that wrong. The old model was renamed Fatty. Not kidding. Its model is in the editor.

[CerberusT93]

@Nebuli2 serious? so you're saying that they re-renamed it fatty? blizz must have quite a sense of humour xD

[Nebuli2]

@CerberusT93 Yep. Or at least whoever renamed it did lol.

[starcraft902]

the original version of all units were awesome...

but blizzard changed them

[DaemonTFO]

@starcraft902 I like the balance differential and also how they decided to tweak different units combined with their improved AI.

Sc2 is by no means a worse game than Sc1 when it comes to units, buildings etc. It's just not exactly the same game with just new graphics.

Which is a fucking good thing!

[FenixT93]

the reason it was removed is because you cant infest the Protoss (the khala provides immunity to infestation somehow) and you cant infest other Zerg because they're already infested. though apparently before cancelation they switched the infested terrans with broodlings.

[Rippingcartar]

haw infastor that ability to turn building into infested buildings?

[deathbycattle]

if only...

[MonoCabron123]

omg that shit is so OP

[168anonymous]

@MonoCabron123 qq terran noob

[Darklordlucas]

Ah it's was just an early draft guys, not even in the beta. Everything was broken.

[AlexYo234]

WTF IS THAT? infesting buildings? if and when they do that, I hope that its not just terrans they can do that too. and omg imagine this, if you could choose an upgrade for infestor. infested zealots, marines, or, well idk if there should be zerg

[SCGmovies]

they add this back into the expansions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lilmidjitboy]

notis as thay infest the tarrin player does nothing

[superfanboy555]

if only zerg had that to bad

[PhazonOmega]

How do you make a jaw-drop emoticon?

[MrDerek0915]

@PhazonOmega :[___n]

[pedobearishot]

They always make every unit and building in the game stronger when its not released yet to hype up the game and balance it afterwards.

[patatepowa]

@pedobearishot if all units are stronger than the game is still balanced DO YOU SEE WHY

[pedobearishot]

@patatepowa no its not because there wont be counters anymore and only 1 unit would be used or there would be counters but then it would just be who can cast spells first or get the first hit off

[tutyeex]

there should be an ums map that u have all the original abilities of SC2

[kamikrazi123]

if blizzard is stupid enough to make an ability like this, theyre stupid enough to make an ability like FF...

[tomskiestv]

@darktemplar 1- get a life

2- this would have been kik ass

3- if you need to fill the barrak with marines y don't u need to fill infestors wth them

4- infestors should be able to produce zealots as well

5- if ur gona argue bout something on sc2, argue on strategies, not something that isn't even in the game

[ProbeIke]

To think they replaced this with an four second spell that does virtually no damage. (AHEM fungal growth)

[pkjei]

@ProbeIke Or a spell that does a crap load of damage to all amored units thats like 90% of all toss units. (Ahem patch 1.3)

[SamKabobs]

those marines are how you say "slow" standing at the enterence doing nothing while infestors making former sc1 talibans

[firetarp]

wait this is broodwar!

[vegalex94]

i think it was a nice way for bbeating mass marine

[xxxTridenT]

lol so imba

[KevVIII]

As much as this would have made epic scenario for single player or UMS, I seriously am glad that it was removed. Sure, infest command center was just a humiliation move, since you had to have building that is probably the most heavily guarded in red before doing so. Allowing this ability to happen while burrowed is horrible. Although I would like to see this is UMS settings lol.

[xcorezz]

instant GG

[Conotrant]

Looks imba but kinda makes more sense then infested terren spawning from the investors face...

[Coconutfurious]

. . . I can see why blizz got rid of this...

[daexmachinus]

INfestor sappin my barracks

[osmark86]

I have starcraft 2 and infestors cant do that!!! >:((((((

[andersblabla]

@osmark86 it was in the beta. Was removed due to overpowered'ness, but damn infestors are still damn awesome ^^

[kqr66]

@osmark86 ya they took that away unfortunately

[giggsth]

PLAYGUUUUUU

[PKarklouse]

LOL it's like they're spraying poop!

[TankNutter]

DAMMIT WHY DID BLIZZARD NEED TO DELETE THE INFEST BUILDING THING?

[imnotbad9]

this isnt sc2. That aint in that game.

[SoulTrii]

@imnotbad9 this was an early version, not release

[sirroger11]

what idiot builds 5 barracks and 2 resupply?

[AcidBugler]

@sirroger11 a demonstration lol...

[GrrrIamMad]

@sirroger11

5 Barracks = Get units much faster

2 Supply Depots = That's hardly any

[Shiima7]

that would be sick if you could still do that



[16kn]

lol this would make the zerg overpowered xD.......

[DarkTemplar40k]

I am happy they removed this. No matter how you look at it it was one of the most unfairest things and absolutly inbalanced.

[kolbot]

im guessing they might make this ability available only in the zerg campaign

[sadicious]

@kolbot I suspect they replaced this ability with the ability to poop out an infected marine. Would seem unusual to give a unit a special ability that would only work on a single building of a single race.

[Waranger5]

@sadicious Well in the original SC the Queen could only infest the Terran Command Center!

[sadicious]

@Waranger5 Yes, but infestors would be only useful to snare and annoy.  Those queens had a one hit kill on all organic units.

[Kingofredeyes]

@sadicious Infestors have much better uses than simply snaring and annoying. MCing Protoss Colossi for example can easily break open a battle. Moving into enemy mineral fields and spawning infested terran armies on top of them is also extremely effective. It's a micro intensive unit but played right it can be one of the strongest zerg units.

[yuppy64]

@Kingofredeyes A couple of fungal growths can turn the tide, followed up with NP from high ground (where the enemy has no visibility) to take their massive units to take care of the units that will survive the fungal growth and then each other.

I just love turning a thor and battlecruiser against each other.

[JoFoo2]

@sadicious It's even better. It's a one-hit kill on all "non-robotic" units. In other words, any ground unit other than probes, reavers, and archons.

[cheesecoffy]

Is that still possible!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Richy15251]

@cheesecoffy no

[LeeKuper9808]

it's a big disaster that blizzard changed lots of stuff in SC2 INFESTING IS MY FAVORITE!!!!

[DarkTemplar40k]

@LeeKuper9808

Yeah as a zerg player it would've been great to have an ability to instant turn an building around and get lots of cheaps unit utterly destroying your enemy without him having any chance!

[AcidBugler]

@DarkTemplar40k only thing is since all terran wall off vs zerg it wold be very difficult too pull it off, im glad they changed it, though it is really cool lol

[iiVeGaNoXii]

@DarkTemplar40k just in case you didn't notice, it took the infestors like 15 seconds to change the buildings... if there was actually a terran player, they would have killed the infestors before the buildings changed

[DarkTemplar40k]

@iiVeGaNoXii You more then doubled the time it took them, from the point where the first infector started infecting the building untill the building turned it took them about 7-8 Seconds. And 7-8 Seconds in a real match are nothing. First you get the message, then you've got to go there and notice what's happenening. Then you need your units to move there and actually start attacking the infestors.

[divex07]

@DarkTemplar40k sarcasm is great in this one.

[RicercarUPSB]

@DarkTemplar40k except any decent player would avoid that by having, i dunno...

DETECTION?

[DarkTemplar40k]

@RicercarUPSB Yeah because having the majority of your army inside your base to counter this would be a great way to win. It was absolutely overpowered and got removed because of that.

[RicercarUPSB]

@DarkTemplar40k Static defense you moron.

[DarkTemplar40k]

@RicercarUPSB Yeah, because terrans do have static defense. Oh wait, you have to load their bunkers with units to make them actually work unlike toss and zerg defense. Honestly, people like you are actually the proof how inbalanced this would've been.

[RicercarUPSB]

@DarkTemplar40k And is that really so hard? And plus, the terran player had plenty of marines, he could have killed off the infestors before they had time to get off their spell.

[DarkTemplar40k]

@RicercarUPSB Because having lots of marines in bunkers totaly doesn't use up your supply while the enemy can use it at will? You're not making any sense anymore. At first you talked about static defense, now having most of your army guarding your base just because of one unit. Also this video is just an example of the unit, actually using it ingame would've been far more devastating in a lot of situations.

[WinnysChannel]

@DarkTemplar40k I see what you did there! Well if you lose against a 6 pool you're a scrub. L2 scout!

[TheCheesyB]

@WinnysChannel you can't scout a 6-pool or you're economy will be devestated. you just have to be able to expect and defend it with what you have. if you win, its gg. if you dont, then try harder.

[WinnysChannel]

@TheCheesyB so what will happen if you don't scout the 6-pool? lets not talk about economic damage. Better to be safe then sorry.

[AllstarHunE]

@DarkTemplar40k

sarcasm?

[Savci008]

@DarkTemplar40k It took an estimated 9 seconds from unburrow (units with no attack revealed themselves and casted a channeled ability) to the point where the building was infested. If you don't deal with the infestors until that you must suck at terran horribly.

I don't say that it wouldn't be powerful, but we are looking at a demostration, a video made...by infestors, for infestors! :D

No, I mean, in a real game this would pretty much be like DTs as far as the chance of dealing damage goes.

[DarkTemplar40k]

@Savci008 It's about 8 seconds, a player with several of these and good reflexes could turn around large parts of the enemy base within a few seconds. This would force the defending player to keep more then a few units of his army in his base just for the defense. Also he would need to take out all of them, even if he responded right away considering the time that would take he could've taken out about 2 of them.

[DarkTemplar40k]

@Savci008 No, there are several good reasons this didn't find it's way into multiplayer. It's nowhere near DT and even comparing those two is a joke.

[Savci008]

@DarkTemplar40k I wouldn't say that. Sure, you get an alert when attacked by DTs, but they stay invisible. These, they are visible. Yes, it is powerful, I only wanted to point out that it takes as much stupidity to not counter this as it takes to not deal with DTs under normal circumstances.

[DarkTemplar40k]

@Savci008 Are DTs able to turn entire buildings around in a matter of seconds? No. Do the buildings destroyed by DTs produce more units? No.

Just looking at the stats should clearly show how they're different. Considering that the barracks do have 1000 Hp before armor. And they turn them around in 6-8 seconds. That would give those units about 142,8 dps per second. And then those buildings aren't gone, no they start producing units for your enemy.

[Savci008]

@DarkTemplar40k

Do DTs deal damage without appearing? Yes.

Do Dts deal damage insantly when they strike a building? Yes.

We're not comparing DPS here. That way you could say that the nuke is powerful, as it can be technically considered a cloaked unit dealing 500 damage to buildings and killing off most units in its area, yet it is not overpowered because it's a great hassle to launch.

Also don't forget how easy they are to kill when channeling and they are not invisible.

[StelarCF]

@DarkTemplar40k actually it isn't overpowered.

If you actually have an army and know they have burrow you should bring some detectors at all times.

Also you should notice the trail infestors leave while managing your buildings.

Also YOU COULD ATTACK THEM WHILST THEY ARE INFESTING THE BUILDINGS.

All work nicely

[CerberusT93]

@StelarCF it wasnt because it was overpowered. it was because it only works on terran since the protoss cant be infested due to the immunity provided by the khala, and you cant exactly infest other zerg structures for somewhat obvious reasons.

So they simply replaced the ability with something stupid and unrealistic but universal in who you can use it on.

[Pand0rk]

@DarkTemplar40k

"As a Zerg player it would've been great to turn Zerg into Terran."

Fixed.

[ImperatorZed]

@DarkTemplar40k could've been limited by time or cost a lot of energy to balance it I'd say. That or make the infested units weak.

[1337lolguyman]

@ImperatorZed Even then, the building would still be instantly lost due to it being converted. This ability could easily cripple an army for a while if used correctly and, while not openly destroying the enemy/their economy/their forces, could definately open them up for a full-scale assault with much less opposition.

[ImperatorZed]

@1337lolguyman So infested terrans can't instantly lose you buildings? Have you ever played this game?

[1337lolguyman]

@ImperatorZed No, if the building was infested, then they would keep making infested terrans. This would mean that the infested player would need to eliminate the buildings that are infested to stop the infested from spawning. This, in turn, would mean that they cannot make as many units for a short while and would leave them open for assault while they try to recover.

[redrooster241]

@LeeKuper9808 probably in heart of the swarm they'll have this.

[Azeduori]

@LeeKuper9808

It is of course, also, imba.

[StainedShuriken333]

@Azeduori We had to deal with Terran's imbalances for the longest time. They finally just got nerfed to where it's competitive instead of a massacre. Before the nerf, almost every zerg player complained about Terran, even "pro" players that are known throughout the world. I, for one, wouldn't even bother playing vs terran in custom practice matches. I would just leave. ZvP and ZvZ was competitive and fun. ZvT was just a massive, pitiful slaughter.

[Dominub]

@StainedShuriken333 yea blame that

[StainedShuriken333]

@Dominub Now can I get an elaborated version of your comment, please, so I know what the hell you're talking about?

[Dominub]

@StainedShuriken333 No.

[Dominub]

@StainedShuriken333 No.

[StainedShuriken333]

@Dominub Lol... ok. Then stfu pl0x

[MrRuufs]

u cant infest any buildings anymore can u?

[u45uify]

the rifles the rines use sound like the assult rifle of halo

[scrapper1280]

@u45uify No they sounds like sc1 marines which came before halo.

Also learn to spell please its not hard and youtube even has a built in spell checker..

[Ferilian]

Haha, this would have been so imba :D It's nice to see that they can balance some things :D

[longstreth100]

y cant i do that

[MiguelGalit]

@longstreth100 bcause it is only available on alpha only.

[bombadecasa]

old infestors look so stupid, they're all fat and clunky

[Armalizilto]

Hey would it be cool if the Infestation Pit allows you to build Infested Terran units too?

[Exco420]

@Armalizilto no

[Armalizilto]

@Exco420 Why you say that? Is it not cool?

[Exco420]

@Armalizilto no its not. infested terrans are a waste!

[Armalizilto]

@Exco420 Yeah, you're right. Okay, I guess is not a cool thing at all.

[Entice]

@Exco420 The new infested Terrans are better. Aside from the timer, an infested terran is better than a roach.

[ingarsss]

0:28 i love that the other guy doesnt reac, how his barracks are beeing vomited with a weird sludge, that grows em tenatles: aring: oh our barracks seem weird today! (infested rin comes out) oh hi bob!

[moiriv415]

the new devs in blizzard dont know what to do with zerg.

[Otoriheron]

While i agree that it's rare that you actually get so far into the tech tree in an actual game, it still occurs that you use carriers and cruisers, and if your opponent does, corruptors are far from worthless. Just sayin'.

[NigelGriff]

Should give corruptors this ability, corruptors are useless now unless your going straight to brood lord.

[Otoriheron]

@NigelGriff useless? they are the best air to massive air in the game, cruisers, rays and carriers get roflstomped by them

[NigelGriff]

@Otoriheron Nobody makes cruisers and carriers in plat, although they are quite good againced colossus but in every other situation i'd rather have mass muta's.

[Pukisct]

wasn't this ability removed, the corrupters should at least be able to do this

[Armalizilto]

@Pukisct I agree, but what if the structures was heavily damaged?

[lardman65]

rorupters can corrupt buildings

[martver12]

how do you do that?

[jayrq2o1]

i think roaches are better. also, they changed this a lot. they can just spawn infected terrans anytime without having to infest a rax.

[mouchop]

@jayrq2o1 ya but infestor make more soldier

[SilverCorbra]

hehe in the end you can see the Infestor sneak away 0;45

[amazingdany]

I suppose protoss and zerg structures would've produced infested zealots and zergling respectively.

Infestors are incredibly powerful, not surprising they have been demoted.

[Weeple10]

accually it's not just get a detector and you can see them perfectly

[JATherapist911]

lol... I know this hasn't been balanced yet, but this would be SO broken haha

[makai2468]

i like new infested terrans way better then the suicidal ones

[NecronRon]

@makai2468 what makes the new ones not suicidal lol? instead of killing themselves during an attack, they kill themselves after a time limit expires.

[aznagent]

@NecronRon thats called "timed life" not kill myself after time's up

[GmanGregilla]

Cool.