he is giving advice to anon and anon is considered to be SPs, so he is obviously an SP...or a Scientologist who wants to be rescued but he probly is an SP
Very well said and deinitely spoken from a voice of experience. never, ever get into something without knowing the facts, the choices you will have to make, and all of the possible consequences you may come across.
Remember this. OSA are NOT the police. You owe them NO information.
If they follow you, you are entitled to police protection.
Make any journalists show a press pass and ask if you can use their cell phone to call their employers if they aren't there with really noticable equipment [such as van with lettering, really fancy $10,000 equipment etc]
You don't think that Scientologists are in the media? Listen to old guy. If they are determined, based on how determined you are, they will eventually get to you and try to destroy you. This enterprise has millions upon millions of dollars backing them. You do not. And all it takes is one infiltration to make Anonymous a thing of the past.
"ANONYMOUS" members believe that trolls are demons from hell in human form. so if you get called a troll this is what they believe i read the "Anonymous Bible Vedas" cause i used to be a part of ANONS lol why do "Anonymous" members always talk about XENU? Anonymous believes in there own "bible" that Xenu will return and destroy Scientologists. You will never hear a Scientologist talking about XENU but "ANONYMOUS" believes Xenu is God.
Good video.The recent namefagging shows what a powerful threat anonymity is to the cult.outing people's ids is no doubt just the first step and is meant to intimidate people.one of the greta things about this is that l.ron hubbard was wrong-'SP's(imaginary anyway) are not all criminals,so it may be hard for them to find crimes in many cases.That won't stop them from making some up though!
Even so it is still a good idea to continue reiterating the rules so that there is no excuse for people to not know what's what about what needs doing.
Thank you for your time on creating this video. Albeit it is very obvious, and i can safely assure you that (at the very least) the majority of us attending the protests already know everything you have stated.
Apparently Rational Oldguy advice format sounds very much like the old story of the Great Serpent. The shapeshifter never abandons a deceitful and influencial valence!
Im NOT associated with Anonymous or with COS nor am I defending either with my comments.
I have heard of "Questionable" acts COS have engaged in with those who speak out against them BUT Im baffled by some of the info in this video.
1. Taking Photos and Questioning protesters:
I have been to many demonstrations on various issues in at ALL of them, those being protested have always taken photos & asked questions of people there. This is not just something that happens at COS demonstrations.
This is a very different approach. One thing is documenting the protest, or recording for posterity/out of curiousity. Another thing is recording material to forward to a certain 'Office of Special Affairs' which will do their very best to ruin your life with any footage/information they can get waitwaitwait...did you even watch this video?
Thank you for this good advice. I would like to add, bring your own camera to the raid. Take pictures of the people taking pictures of you they might follow you after. If they do take more pictures to give to the police. Wear a disguise, be anonymous. Next raid - march 15
I am not Anonymous. However, I'm supportive of the entire protest, and have already shown up in Los Angeles, and am excited for March 15. Luckily for us, we also have Mark Bunker and Tory Christman on our side.
And for the record, Scientology does not scare me.
Old Guy knows his stuff it was kind of him or her to share. Leave your jewelry, your prescription glasses at home if you can, be non descript, don't wear your favorite gear and put your hair up wear a hat and oversized sunglasses a mask if you can legally. Don't volunteer info, I know Old Guy and the Breaded one have said that before but it really is important even small talk with a stranger can endanger others.
also remember when you gather...there very well may be scientologist try to pass as a protester..actually expect it..it is not the time to whip out you I phone and exchange numbers..anyone showing violence should be asked to leave for they are a hinderance to the movement..also..they may even send to of their one..and stage it that a scientologist starts beating up a protester when in fact said protester is a scientologist and together they start a riot..good luck everyone..the world is watching
I've been thinking of joining Anonymous.
I'm beginning to think after we take down Scientology we'll be taking down some of the people in the US of A...
rocksage2 1 year ago
he is giving advice to anon and anon is considered to be SPs, so he is obviously an SP...or a Scientologist who wants to be rescued but he probly is an SP
TheNinja404 2 years ago
How do we know your not and SP?
1waitandbleed1 2 years ago
Any actual God(s) out there must either be very annoyed or pissing themselves with laughter at humanity at this point.
PersonalPariah 3 years ago
go to anonpawnbegone's profile. watch anonymous: the incredible shrinking legion. amongst other videos.
jth0511 3 years ago
Very well said and deinitely spoken from a voice of experience. never, ever get into something without knowing the facts, the choices you will have to make, and all of the possible consequences you may come across.
Spiritrunner6 3 years ago 4
Remember this. OSA are NOT the police. You owe them NO information.
If they follow you, you are entitled to police protection.
Make any journalists show a press pass and ask if you can use their cell phone to call their employers if they aren't there with really noticable equipment [such as van with lettering, really fancy $10,000 equipment etc]
AnonOutreach 3 years ago 12
You don't think that Scientologists are in the media? Listen to old guy. If they are determined, based on how determined you are, they will eventually get to you and try to destroy you. This enterprise has millions upon millions of dollars backing them. You do not. And all it takes is one infiltration to make Anonymous a thing of the past.
hyroglyphx 3 years ago
CoS has been "infiltrating" since the beginning. It hasn't stopped anything. It's mainly a mere annoyance.
The amount of negative media, lawsuits, criminal charges etc leveled against CoS has been increasing, not decreasing over the last year.
AnonOutreach 3 years ago 3
This has been flagged as spam show
"ANONYMOUS" members believe that trolls are demons from hell in human form. so if you get called a troll this is what they believe i read the "Anonymous Bible Vedas" cause i used to be a part of ANONS lol why do "Anonymous" members always talk about XENU? Anonymous believes in there own "bible" that Xenu will return and destroy Scientologists. You will never hear a Scientologist talking about XENU but "ANONYMOUS" believes Xenu is God.
Scygoons 3 years ago
ok i know this may sound like im a newfag but who is OSA?
TheAnonAdmin 2 years ago
you cant get in trouble for holding a stalker at gun point right?
toastycigar 2 years ago
Good video.The recent namefagging shows what a powerful threat anonymity is to the cult.outing people's ids is no doubt just the first step and is meant to intimidate people.one of the greta things about this is that l.ron hubbard was wrong-'SP's(imaginary anyway) are not all criminals,so it may be hard for them to find crimes in many cases.That won't stop them from making some up though!
wickermanburningowl 3 years ago 4
thanks old guy - good one. fair game is alive and kicking!
vongoloid 3 years ago 5
Great video. Good ideas!
Kirojjatak 3 years ago 6
clapclap well done
buprenorphed24 4 years ago 4
Even so it is still a good idea to continue reiterating the rules so that there is no excuse for people to not know what's what about what needs doing.
anon1503008 4 years ago 5
Thank you for your time on creating this video. Albeit it is very obvious, and i can safely assure you that (at the very least) the majority of us attending the protests already know everything you have stated.
Good day.
We are anonymous.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect Us.
SuicidalSP 4 years ago 8
Apparently Rational Oldguy advice format sounds very much like the old story of the Great Serpent. The shapeshifter never abandons a deceitful and influencial valence!
Joaniwass 4 years ago
Im NOT associated with Anonymous or with COS nor am I defending either with my comments.
I have heard of "Questionable" acts COS have engaged in with those who speak out against them BUT Im baffled by some of the info in this video.
1. Taking Photos and Questioning protesters:
I have been to many demonstrations on various issues in at ALL of them, those being protested have always taken photos & asked questions of people there. This is not just something that happens at COS demonstrations.
politicalpsychosis 4 years ago
This is a very different approach. One thing is documenting the protest, or recording for posterity/out of curiousity. Another thing is recording material to forward to a certain 'Office of Special Affairs' which will do their very best to ruin your life with any footage/information they can get waitwaitwait...did you even watch this video?
You cant compare that right?
buprenorphed24 4 years ago
Thank you for this good advice. I would like to add, bring your own camera to the raid. Take pictures of the people taking pictures of you they might follow you after. If they do take more pictures to give to the police. Wear a disguise, be anonymous. Next raid - march 15
nogodscanuck 4 years ago 2
In other words, what you are saying is that people with nothing to lose are very dangerous to $cientology. There is a meme in there somewhere.
Words for thought, indeed.
gargoylesama 4 years ago 2
In and out here.
Most people in Scientology now had no life, were in despair, not success before Scientolgoy. As with all cults.
Scientology finds your "ruin" as the first step of dissemination.
You have to stay in Scientology forever and never leave, or so they thought.
Thank you, Anonymous, for making the path out easier.
An0nym0usMaN 4 years ago 4
Thank you Old guy
But I am sure we all know what we are getting ourselfs into.
Sure I'll admit I'm scared but I won't let my fear rule me. Justice must reign
~The melody of logic always plays true.
mikamiyagami 4 years ago 7
I am not Anonymous. However, I'm supportive of the entire protest, and have already shown up in Los Angeles, and am excited for March 15. Luckily for us, we also have Mark Bunker and Tory Christman on our side.
And for the record, Scientology does not scare me.
Relyt22 4 years ago 9
I don't understand how these anonymous want to stay anonymous here in youtube.
cl0aked 4 years ago 3
For example they could upload in Internet cafes or use a lot of proxies ;)
Glaubensfrei 4 years ago 4
This must be posted all over the net. On all protest organisation forums, on Partyvan, etc. Everywhere...
anonmatty 4 years ago 6
Excellent advice old guy. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
ANON we must never drop our guard, never turn our back, never under estimate (as they have done us).
If you think of anything else OLD feller, let us know.
WE ARE ANONYMOUS
WE ARE LEGION
BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH...EXPECT US
AuntieKhrist 4 years ago 6
much wiseness and my grateful thanx
sixstringpsyco 4 years ago
thanks for the advices.
for anon.
grimetimepecs 4 years ago
Old Guy knows his stuff it was kind of him or her to share. Leave your jewelry, your prescription glasses at home if you can, be non descript, don't wear your favorite gear and put your hair up wear a hat and oversized sunglasses a mask if you can legally. Don't volunteer info, I know Old Guy and the Breaded one have said that before but it really is important even small talk with a stranger can endanger others.
Ender1zero1 4 years ago 4
also remember when you gather...there very well may be scientologist try to pass as a protester..actually expect it..it is not the time to whip out you I phone and exchange numbers..anyone showing violence should be asked to leave for they are a hinderance to the movement..also..they may even send to of their one..and stage it that a scientologist starts beating up a protester when in fact said protester is a scientologist and together they start a riot..good luck everyone..the world is watching
saracox1 4 years ago 4
what time is it in america now? Its 2:20pm (10-feb) in melbourne aust right now.
tycoonassassin 4 years ago
Old guy. Thanks.
Skjutentrast 4 years ago
Thanks oldguy! We need people like you.
halfdark000 4 years ago 2
very level headed advice
thank you "Old Man"
Mick0las 4 years ago
wow...
suddenreligion 4 years ago
Sound advice for dealing with your local sociopathic/psychopathic Co$.
If there is ever the rise of the Fourth Reich in this country, it will be through the Co$, no question about it.
XQzix 4 years ago 2
Excellent.
freetospeakout 4 years ago
Be careful guys! And don't loose your tempers!!!
Shine your lights into the darkness!!!!
Localmode 4 years ago 3
How sweet.
(Mike Rinder?)
Sounds like somebody from the inside.
Go Old Man!
An0nym0usMaN 4 years ago 4
This is very good information. Heed the warnings, but do not falter!
ChuutRiit 4 years ago 3
Thank you, old man. Thank you for coming out to tell us this information. We'll be sure to remember it.
kcm744 4 years ago 3
Thank you, old guy. We are reviewing your words, and will continue to let them affect us.
cerephic 4 years ago 3
Anonymous applauds you. You are a hero.
kandowontu 4 years ago 4
This is defiantly my number one video of the week!
Thanks a lot old wise guy
cyberaquarius 4 years ago 2
That music makes me wonder if old guy... is God.
Papachair 4 years ago 2
I've seen you before. Your message is pretty supportive thanks.
Knowledge is free.
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
WE DO NOT FORGET.
We Will be heard.
Expect us.
--Educate yourself.
IDVirii 4 years ago 5
WE WILL BRING THE CANS FOR YOU OLD GUY!
MousouMachine 4 years ago 3
100% vital viewing for all activists.
kitt0rz 4 years ago 6