By these definitions Brigitte was not eating a RAW diet but cooked diet as Susan talked about. I think both of them would agree that they are eating a Natural diet compared to the majority of the western world.
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Way to go Susun! You in my opinion won the debate. No, it it tastes good and smells good we eat it. Many folks consume poisonous substances that taste good and smell good every day such as aspartame and hydrogenated oils. You are so right on the money Susun! I had a bowl of bean soup earlier and it sure did my body good. They used to give rich broths to sick people as they wanted them to get Lots of nutrients. Wise women still do. Me included.
Weed: "Human beings are not designed to think about what they eat". Really? Maybe in your case, but intelligent beings use their brains to decipher why they get indigestion, headache, fatigue, etc. after eating something. Anyone who can make a statement like that, should not be giving advice regarding food & health.
Why doesn't anyone ever look at what food or foods s/he stopped eating when changing a diet to something new as the possible reason for feeling better rather than just the new foods? Often raw diets do not include grains and grains are one of the biggest problems for sooooo many people.
@meow98 ...lol that would be fun, david wolfe would kick her ass pretty quik.....or susun debating Brain Clement...she would lose her balls in a second...lol
Lastly, some essential amino acids are destroyed by cooking so must come from raw foods. Cooking can create mutagens from proteins so risking cancer. Raw foods contain anti-mutagens that protect against cancer, they are destroyed by cooking.....
Very lastly, some essential amino acids are destroyed by cooking. So must be obtained from raw foods. Cooking can create mutagens from proteins so increasing cancer risk. Plus raw veggies have anti-mutagens protecting against cancer formation. These are destroyed by cooking.....
Just checked Food standards Agency book and it states that on average cooked foods have far less vitamins and minerals than cooked. So I don't know where she got her info, just seems to be more bs....
Actually no, this is the 'finally' bit... As Susun sits there she is slowly cooking....as the oxygen we breathe 'cooks' us. The most likely thing ( from research so far) that stops us 'cooking' or ageing is the antioxidant group. Funnily enough this includes vit C which is destroyed by heat. Humans unlike most other animals, cannot make their own vit C so needs it (unaltered!) from their diet. Cook away, Susun!
Finally, some say our brain capacity increased on a high fruit diet. Anyone who has really tried living foods knows that their consciousness expands and there is definitely a connectedness that cannot be explained. Brigitte Mars looks amazing enough said. The shipping problem needs addressing I agree but it's something we can change.
Secondly, enzyme activity may increase temperature but not to a 'cooked' level or enzyme activity stops. I agree most enzymes will be destroyed in stomach acid but actually all cells contain an enzyme that readily breaks the cell down (by autolysis) it is part of decomposition. This helps us digest the food more readily than if cooked.
First, Susun didn't know what Na stood for and it is basic high school science that it stands for sodium. She said there was more sodium available but in fact we need more potassium than sodium as this causes health problems.
I think she is showing frustration about explaining the obvious. I think when Susun talks about cooked food she is again stating that in order to absorb the nutrients from a plant the cell must be broken. Remember she stated freezing will "cook" a food. So it has not been cooked to death just broken enough to make the nutrients available to our bodies.
@2healthnuts - YES! Susan is a disgusting woman for using facts, evidence, historical context, and science for proving her point!! Brigitte is completely right because she uses personal experience that no one else can really argue about, as well as emotion. Using emotion, fake information, and misinformation is the only way to win an argument.
HUMAN BEINGS ARE NOT DESIGHNED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY EAT SUSAN REALLY??????????? OMG SO WTF ARE YOU HERE TO DEBATE OVER.... WHY DO YOU CARE???? THAT WOMAN AT FIRST I THOUGHT HAS SOME GOOD POINTS ON THE SIDE OF COOKING.........NASTY ANGRY LADY
@draqmoon86 Wow. Lots of yelling. I believe that her point here was that eating food should not become an over-intellectualized process, needing lots of equipment, books, rules, etc. With some intuition, basic common sense, good information, and personal empirical evidence, eating can be simple, nutritious, and a gift, rather than a complicated intellectual regime.
SUSAN JUST ARGUES TO ARGUE....... SHE IS SO STUPID USE YOUR INTIUTION MAYBE IF YOU BALENCED YOUR DIET.....YOU WOULD HAVE THAT BRAIN POWER. AND WHEN YOUR SICK YOU NEEEEEEEEED VITAMIN C
These two people lack the credentials for such a debate. This is like a debate between two average people with no scientific explanations just reading from some charts. Susun Weed is so brainwashed.
@777TylerJB ...Weed was the only one who actually provided sound, scientific data to back up the majority of her arguments. Mars was just going about saying how good raw makes her feel and how amazing it makes other people feel without actually providing any hard evidence to back up her statements. Meanwhile, Weed actually defined for Mars exactly how food is processed inside the body and that even if you ingest it raw -- that's not the state in which the nutrition in that food is assimilated
@mikek241 What you are referring to as "scientific data" is a flawed nutritional chart from some website. Listen to actual scientists like Brian clement. You have alot to learn.
@777TylerJB Brian Clement represents the epitome of selective bias where he will acknowledge the research that supports his hypothesis and reject the evidence that contradicts with his theories. This is not the proper way to do science. I didn't see any charts in Weed's presentation, she was constantly citing studies that contradict the raw fooder's ideas about enzyme, vitamins, and the flawed understanding about consuming foods that are actually "raw".
eating "raw" only food in a british climate ( especially through winter!!!) is just sheer madness. people are importing all these so called superfoods and powders to eat then and tropical fruits and things. we have an abundance of foods here. we also have to look at what got us here. what did our ancestors eat. good natural home cooked food! what more can be said. as soon as we started eating " mac donnalds " etc we started getting ill. not when granny offered us chicken soup. wake up!
also just look at these two women, the raw food lady has lank hair and dry skin and she looks kinda gaunt and lacking and weak, susun is bright and peachy and has nice cheeks and good hair and skin. jesus said, ye shall know them by their fruits!
that womans raw food world just came tumbleling down lol. susun was so right. and that just more or less cleared up my own nutricional journey up. i have tried an all "raw" food diet before and yes its a good clense no doubt but i always need the cooked food again. i feel lacking and denying to myself if i dont. there is something about that big pan and spoon! lol. also i have spent alot of time around raw foodist and they are weak and their hair isnt good. and skin look dry and strange.
The culprit if my own personal health was processed foods. I eat foods prepared in all the ways mentioned and that works for me. If you're not seeing results or feeling better then try something else. High fructose corn syrup and granulated sugars kill my health and energy majorly. No matter what ppl decide to do. Stay away from process foods and prepare real food how you want.
Haven't watched too much of this yet, but this Susan Weed character radiates too much anger and cynicism. It's like shes pissed that Brigitte stole her prom date in high school or something. That doesn't impress me at all.
@4amSensei i thought she seemed very amused, opinionated certainly, and although i don't totally agree with the cooked food definition she does not seem angry.
Cooked food magically gets more nutrition? And why does Susun keep sidetracking to try and prove her point by making the argument of local vs. shipped. Many raw foodist believe in buying local.
@thompson0480 Dont you understand? The cell walls need to be broken for our bodies to get the nutrition. Its not an easy thing to break the plants cell wall. There needs to be heat or maceration or somehing- but out bodies are not made to do it!
Maybe someone should this Weed to the wisdom of vinaigrette. The acetic acid in the vinegar breaks down the structure & the oil coats the nutrition released so it doesn't get oxidized off. Also, I believe we can rehab our atrophied digestive system. Then too, we can warm food without cooking it. Cooks best keep in mind that cooking is alchemy, so beware the transformation, synergy & such in the process. In this way even the best cooks are reckless
the woman on the right is right nuts: saying that fermentation is cooking. Tell that to the living probiotics in ferments, or tell that to the may-as-well-be dead enzymes in the cooked food. Yes, fermentation breaks down, softens the structure for easier digestion. But does cooking create vitamins the way the fermenting does? NO! Yeah, "all food is live", but how many times do you got to kill it thru cooking.
@reforest4fertility neither cooking or fermenting actually increase vitamin content, to my knowledge. They both increase the availability, and therefor increase the amount which we absorb into our blood and what can be tested. Some elements are actually decreased by fermenting as well as cooking, that's why i do both, getting the full spectrum.
I think there is a relation to that wire like hair and nutrition ... im not trying to be funny.. she probably got that hair after child birth... it has to do with hormones and not having the nutrition she needed after having a baby.. well in any case I found a load of flaws in her statements :(
Susun really is very negative & aggressive. Brigitte is so much more positive.
I don't understand S's addition of "I eat food from my garden". Eating local & seasonal can be done regardless of if you plan to cook it or not.
In S's own argument, she contends that eating raw is impossible & raw foodists feel good because their food is "cooked" via sprouting, dehydrating, etc so what is she actually arguing against? She's only proving that raw foods are viable and going against her own argument.
The only thing I agree with Susan about is that enzymes in raw food most likely do not play a role in food digestion. After researching a few things it appears a lot of her info is just plain FALSE. For instance, in 1 c. of raw O.J. there is 4 times more Vit C than in a large baked potato.
Re: Brigitte, unfortunately, I agree she had a weak debate, relying a lot on anecdotal evidence.
Gee, maybe gorilla breast cancer rates will go down if they all used Kraft Thousand Island on their leaves ;-)
The problem I have with this entire 'debate' is that its not a debate based on beliefs or who you like better... This is a matter of facts - Either its healthier for humans to eat raw or to eat cooked.
I think the empirical anthropological evidence speaks for itself, and then to top it off we've got modern science discovering what humans already once knew. Cooked food is healthier.
I really like Susun's definition of raw vs cooked food. Cooked doesn't have to mean heated.
Next time, Please invite David Wolfe to the debate, i love Ms. Mars, but she simply does not have enough practical knowledge to explain why raw foods are far superior to their cooked version, for our health.
Human beings are not designed to think about what they eat?? What the heck does that mean? We Think...because we are designed to think! Even my dog thinks about what he eats, its almost all he thinks about. LOL
@karenasmm What I'm thinking is, if we're not designed to think about what we eat, if we were to eat as we breathe, then doesn't that mean to grab an apple, or a bananna off a tree end just eat it? Rather than how to prepare it and with what? Doesn't it mean that we're designed to eat raw food?
lol thats what I said ... perhaps a raw food diet might clear up that fog old weedy has going on up there. I am sure she is knowledgable on herbs and what not but what she was saying really didnt fly with the more intelligent crowd.
I don't see raw foods as a religion, raw foods is a healing tool. I don't care if susan is confusing cooking with processing of foods.... raw foods are processed in a very gentle way that is closer to nature which results in reversal of disease and gain of vibrant health.
Looking into biblical teachings of nutrition could be interesting for some. Of course even that has debateable translation.
I respect both women for their participation in this event but I disagree with Susun's evaluation that there is no raw food. I also disagreed with her statement that all food is life. When an animal is butchered for consumption it has become death.
Your comment just reminded me of the biblical law to not eat blood, it says that the life is in the blood and so it is not to be eaten. But every green herb, fruits etc is the first thing Adam was told to eat. I agree that when you kill something you eat death, especially if it was brutal.
The major difference between hemoglobin and chlorrophyl is that our blood is based around iron, while plant blood is based around magnesium. With this new knowledge, reapply that equasion. The life is in the blood, eat only plants.
Yes i believe that the life in the blood refers to animal not plant "blood". But it is interesting to note that if you dont cook a plant, you dont destroy the chlorrophyl, which is highly nutritious! So all of the life of the plant life is transfered to our bodies, which is the circle of life in action. Amazing!
@karenasmm It truly is a work of art, our design. I've heard it said many times in the raw community that if you didn't believe in a God before going raw, you will soon after! Refreshing to hear. :)
Susan said by her own research the definition of cooking, is heating food. applying oil, formentation, juicing, in no way is heating, and therefore is not cooking. I can not believe no one corrected her on this. Her entire debate is de throwned by the defenition of cooking. Raw food is raw. Eating alone is not cooking. If that was the argument then it still BOILS down to applying heat or not.
@JayDeeofKrakInk its amazing how hypocritical she is, she said that the smell of the cooked food was not the vitamins or minerals escaping ....but check her video here " watch?v=FvqWKT9IDXU&feature=related "
she says that she uses a lid to keep the vitamins and minerals from escaping. lol . crazy !
I would not take nutritional advice from Susan based on her weight and her attitude.Being able to sustain life on cooked food for millions of years does not mean it is optimum. What about the Essenes? What about the Genesis diet? What about how awesome raw vegans feel when they don't eat tons of nuts and seeds? What about all the healings from raw vegan diet? She eats raw meat and dairy.....what about the parasites from raw meat? Too much left to talk about in that debate.
Raw had healed me cooked had killed me. On cooked i looked like a sponge on Raw I look like a God. Then show me an other study on cooking and I'll laugh for days and I'll show you my body on raw.
You should think before jumping to conclusions about someone else. I wasn't criticizing, simply making an observation to the obviously biased views of some and I do eat a large percentage of raw foods. I personally believe that balance is the key to all things including good health. Jesus Christ built a fire on the shore and cooked fish for his disciples, I trust his instruction above all else and please, if you have an atheistic comment I'm not interested.
In many ways balance is key, though not in all. If you are personally convinced by your research that something is unhealthy or a contamination of your own temple, it becomes wrong. There are many things that were allowed throughout scripture which were not approved. Jesus himself spoke of peoples 'hardheartedness' at Matt. 18:8. Genesis 1:29,30 is very clear as to our food. Scriptures not contradicting themselves lead to an explanation of post-flood scarcity allowing for meat. Atheistic-no
very true ... if you have not tried it you really cant say.. I have been transitioning for less than 3 months and I have loads of energy, lost almost 30ibs and my adult acne that popped up last year has been zapped! I am not totally raw and have loads of peer pressure that makes for some cooked food set backs but there is no doubt in my mind that I am going to right direction. I think that Susan should take the Raw food challenge!!
Sounds and LOOKS to me like Susun Weed would benefit from some healthy living foods. And from not smoking as much, if that's why her voice is so gravelly.
The definition of cooking is not "preparing", it's "preparing WITH HEAT". I would go on to say that that is heat at temperatures exceeding 120 degrees.
Food prepared with oil, salt etc is not dding any heat. Putting thing in the sun is still not "heat" in the sense of the level of heat in cooking. Perhaps RAW isn't the right word if it's prepared, but cooked isn't the right word for prepared live-food either!
Raw plant food is more like a broom on the system rather than nourishment, thats why it keeps peoples pipes clean and moving. Raw meat and raw milk is building, cooked plants grains and animal products delivers the nutrients for building rather than cleaning of the system. Building vs cleansing its simple.
Have you even researched amino acids and protein structure? Or the way that the protein is deconstructed through the effort of your body, then only producing a slight amount of usable resources? You're right about the fiber... it does clean you out. While the meat you just ate putrifies in your gut for days...
Since human beings weren't designed to think about what they eat, I'm gonna go eat some dirt. It doesn't matter what I eat because I wasn't even designed to think about it. I can eat dirt, bugs, worms, rats, whatever.
Bugs, worms and even rats (based on what the rats were consuming, i.e. native nutrient-dense vegetation if they are in fact living in wild or non-modernized settings) are all potentially power-packed forms of nutrition. I would recommend raw of course.
Interesting how you choose foods which would in fact be very natural for early hominid species.
The whole thing about digested fruits and veggies are "cooked" in the stomach. Even if it is, all molecules and particles are INSIDE of you, so you can nurture all of it. If you cook it in the frying pan, some or lots of it goes away - depending on how long and hard you fry it.
If you were paying attention you would have got from the debate that "cooked" doesn't have to be in a pot on the stove. Cooking means that food can be "cooked" by means of dehydration, allowing fruit to ripen completely on the vine, dousing a salad with a couple tablespoons of oil, etc, etc. A more specific and indepth description of what raw foodists mean by "raw", and "cooked" foodists mean by "cooked" needs to happen. And enough with the silly bickering.
There have been a few other comments naming specific points of temperature at which the term 'cooking' may apply more appropriately. Though, generally speaking, the definition of the word rarely has positive conotations and, when referring to food, almost always infers a substantial increase in temperature rather than a molecular or chemical reaction from, say, oil or acids. A more appropriate term for those processes might be: pre-digestion. Sounds odd though, I'm sure there's a better one.
I partly agree with Weeds comment on the raw food diet not being ecological in a cold climate.
I believe that you CAN live ecologically sound in as a raw foodist in a cold climate, but most won't eat that way. I know that I certainly don't since I buy a lot of imported fruits in the winter.
It is however a VERY small part of my ecological footprint as a whole so I don't think that much about it honestly. But enough not to use eco friendly as an argument for my diet.
I appreciate Susan's intensity, but I don't understand why she is so aggressive and antagonistic. People eating raw food and enjoying the benefits certainly does her no harm; live and let live. Wellness isn't about attacking one another, but personal discovery and enjoying life. I appreciate that Brigitte talked about all the great things the diet does for her, whereas Susan just attempted to pick her opponent apart rather than emphasizing the benefits of her opinion.
I agree with you. I was waiting for Susan to give examples of how beneficial her food has been with her health. Susan made statements that gave me the sense it was all about consumption and not conserving, when she said you can cook spinach and eat more of it. Brigitte said you don't have to eat as much of it raw and you can still have a lot.
I agree with Weed's closing line: "we're not designed to think about what they eat". It contradicted everything she said in the debate. (????)
If I didn't thing about what I ate (or how to eat it) and lived naturally (ie in a forest like the primate I am), I'd eat like a primate: fruit and leaves straight off the trees.
I felt the audience member who agreed there is wisdom in both was the most balanced.
I truly feel there is wisdom in both. And even if Weed argued that fermented and oiled salads and ripe peaches are cooked, I feel that this type of "cooking" does hold some special vitality, and might be really great to eat regularly. That is, I feel better eating sauer krout, than eating a steak.
Weed started this debate by re-defining the word "cooked" so that all foods are cooked no matter what.
Mars should have said, "I do not accept your premise that all foods are, by definition, cooked." If she had done so, Weed would've had to defend her false premise.
Since Mars did not challenge Weed's false premise, the entire debate was stacked against Mars from the start.
I think Mars had a higher purpose than to win. But to anyone who cares, they can see that Weed continually said things that can't be true: "we don't get Vitamin C"??????? Huh?
Eating Raw Foods is not a fad and has been sustaining life for centuries. There are many cultures that cook (with the heat of fire) VERY little. Eating mostly raw foods even will save and enhance your life.
some folks thrive on a really high raw fruit diet while others go more for veges & some 50% cooked 50% Raw.Ive personaly found the best Vegan diet is the the one that suits YOU. Experiment till you find your Peace.Exercise,posative life choices,regular juice fasts,& plenty of Love win the day for me!.Blessings health dudesX
I really thought how interesting a point Mars made about Life Force Energy in food, sure Weed made the point of everything is cooking ,true , case in point all cooking is in varying degrees.But life force is also something to consider
I don't think Mars was very well researched in her arguements just as a debater. She seemed more spiritual and give opinion answers which will never win a debate. As for the info what having to much of anything as a bad thing. To much BetaCarotene. Studies show high doses of BetaCarotene made cancer patience worse as apposed to eating a variety of foods which is what is important. Raw or not variety is the key. Good videos gave me some more perspective.
@RAINRAWALLIANCE I left with the feeling that Brigitte spoke in a language of higher resonance, which spoke to our hearts and not completely to our minds, didn't condescend or attack.
Good grief, another freeking fad diet. Gee I wonder how much longer they will live? Does anyone remember Susan Powder "fat makes you fat" or Marylin and Harvey Diamond was it food combining and too many others to list. "Raw foods" it's a religion and anyone that does not tow the line is so not with it. When will we have enough of this?
To me it's not about the length of my life, it's about how i feel at this moment. And raw foods make me feel better than I did on the healthy cooked food I used to eat.
Ripe, fresh food is not cooked. Cooking denatures food, I agree that altering fresh food by marinating, fermenting or dehydrating is not ideal, but it's still not "cooked". Cooked food loses its flavor and denatures it, alters it far more.
We are comparing food prep to using high heat to change the structure. You can marinate broccoli 24 hours in lemon juice and it will never lose it's color and go bland as when it's been cooked with heat.
its true tho. fermentation is cooking. digestion is cooking. the point in cooking. is so that its already partially processed. you're body has evolved over the past couple thousand years to work with cooked food.
That's not the point though. There's a difference between cooked and prepared food.
The definition of cooking is to apply heat to food. Weed tries to argue that a ripe apple straight from the tree is cooked. That doesn't really fall into the accepted definition of cooked.
Trying to win an argument by redefining words just doesn't make sense.
The raw food movement has already established what preparation methods are acceptable in the raw kitchen, let's work with those definitions.
@quasim0do That may be true but what Weed was trying to illustrate is simply that any food that is ingested is "processed" in some way before it is assimilated into your body -- whether that be through fermenting, cooking (conventional definition), dehydrating, or breaking down with acid.
I don't think Brigitte Mars was really up to going against Susun Weed. Perhaps it would've been better to have Karen Knowler, or Shazzie, or...oooo David Wolfe might be able to match Weed's fire! Dr. Rick Dina would've blown her out of the water. Jameth Sheridan is also a herbalist, he and Weed might actually get along quite well...Love to Brigitte, but her game was lacking some juice. Personally, I live comfortably and healthfully at about 80-90% raw. Any less, and I don't feel my best!
I think Dr Sebi, would have blown Susan out of the the Universe. Brigitte wasn't prepared for this debate although, I liked how she gave examples of her and her spouse's benefit from the raw food diet and Susan never did give an example of how her diet helps her. She also appeared to be vitamin D deficient (Susan's teeth).
Science has established that when plant foods are cooked they lose about half of their vitamins. IMO it follows that eating raw is more nutritious which could lead to a longer life, prevent disease and therefore would be ideal for humans.
I eat a lot of raw foods too but I also listen to my body & don't limit myself. Brigitte is peaceful yes, but she looks very unhealthy- so skinny, no color in her face & unhealthy thin dull hair. Same with the moderator. IMHO
Well humans, like most other animals, are supposed to be skinny.
And honestly it's the lighting in the studio that makes them look pale and "unhealthy". If you look at other videos and photos of them, they all look a lot different.
My proof is in the pudding....delicious raw chia pudding that is. All we need is to take a good look at these two ladies. Brigitte Mars is so beautiful and vibrant, she also has a very gentle and peaceful way about her. Susun Weed is just completely the opposite. Raw food hands down! Susun's arguments were the equivalent of a 10 mph wind TRYING to sway a giant sequoia.
i wanna see her debate other raw foodists as well
blanklabel1234567890 1 week ago
... and who looks the best? haha
blanklabel1234567890 1 week ago
Susun CLEARLY won this debate :)
Moonessence1 1 week ago
Very interesting discussion I enjoyed it and learnt a lot. I do however feel that the definitions should have been outlined before hand.
Cooked:- to subject (anything) to the application of heat
Heat:- the state of a body percived as having or generating a relatively high degree of warmth.
Raw:- not having undergone processes of preparing, dressing, finishing, or manufacture.
organicevie 4 weeks ago
By these definitions Brigitte was not eating a RAW diet but cooked diet as Susan talked about. I think both of them would agree that they are eating a Natural diet compared to the majority of the western world.
organicevie 4 weeks ago
I would much rather look like Brigette then susan thats for sure
DianaN100 2 months ago
@DianaN100 im pretty sure Susan is way older than Brigette.
saberur66 2 months ago
I compleley agree with Brigette but She needs to step it up a bit...susan comes off too strong
DianaN100 2 months ago
susan is not making sense at all saying the sun cooks the food and compares it to actual cooked food
DianaN100 2 months ago
Susun Weed would make David Wolfe cry.
moonskyheron 3 months ago
Hello there! Have you considered intellectus 424 diet (search on google)? Ive heard some incredible things about it and my father lost a ton of weight with it.
00001saddam 5 months ago
Way to go Susun! You in my opinion won the debate. No, it it tastes good and smells good we eat it. Many folks consume poisonous substances that taste good and smell good every day such as aspartame and hydrogenated oils. You are so right on the money Susun! I had a bowl of bean soup earlier and it sure did my body good. They used to give rich broths to sick people as they wanted them to get Lots of nutrients. Wise women still do. Me included.
RebLin51 5 months ago
Weed: "Human beings are not designed to think about what they eat". Really? Maybe in your case, but intelligent beings use their brains to decipher why they get indigestion, headache, fatigue, etc. after eating something. Anyone who can make a statement like that, should not be giving advice regarding food & health.
mrtruthforever 6 months ago
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mrtruthforever 6 months ago
Why doesn't anyone ever look at what food or foods s/he stopped eating when changing a diet to something new as the possible reason for feeling better rather than just the new foods? Often raw diets do not include grains and grains are one of the biggest problems for sooooo many people.
paintedgoat376 7 months ago
Regardless of what is right or wrong, I really like what Susan said at the end. Very inspirational.
healthfreak18 8 months ago
I wanna see Susan debate David Wolfe
meow98 11 months ago 2
@meow98 ...lol that would be fun, david wolfe would kick her ass pretty quik.....or susun debating Brain Clement...she would lose her balls in a second...lol
NuclearNympho 6 months ago
@StopTheRobbery I don't necessarily but she said she'd got hers from the Wiki didnt she Lol?
nyxs60 11 months ago
Lastly, some essential amino acids are destroyed by cooking so must come from raw foods. Cooking can create mutagens from proteins so risking cancer. Raw foods contain anti-mutagens that protect against cancer, they are destroyed by cooking.....
Need I go on.....?
nyxs60 11 months ago
Very lastly, some essential amino acids are destroyed by cooking. So must be obtained from raw foods. Cooking can create mutagens from proteins so increasing cancer risk. Plus raw veggies have anti-mutagens protecting against cancer formation. These are destroyed by cooking.....
Need I go on.....?
nyxs60 11 months ago
Just checked Food standards Agency book and it states that on average cooked foods have far less vitamins and minerals than cooked. So I don't know where she got her info, just seems to be more bs....
nyxs60 11 months ago
@nyxs60
Why would you trust the 'Food Standards Agency'? lol
StopTheRobbery2 11 months ago
Actually no, this is the 'finally' bit... As Susun sits there she is slowly cooking....as the oxygen we breathe 'cooks' us. The most likely thing ( from research so far) that stops us 'cooking' or ageing is the antioxidant group. Funnily enough this includes vit C which is destroyed by heat. Humans unlike most other animals, cannot make their own vit C so needs it (unaltered!) from their diet. Cook away, Susun!
nyxs60 11 months ago
Finally, some say our brain capacity increased on a high fruit diet. Anyone who has really tried living foods knows that their consciousness expands and there is definitely a connectedness that cannot be explained. Brigitte Mars looks amazing enough said. The shipping problem needs addressing I agree but it's something we can change.
nyxs60 11 months ago
Thirdly, raw meat has less bacteria on it than cooked. This is because the cooked meat is already broken down.
nyxs60 11 months ago
Secondly, enzyme activity may increase temperature but not to a 'cooked' level or enzyme activity stops. I agree most enzymes will be destroyed in stomach acid but actually all cells contain an enzyme that readily breaks the cell down (by autolysis) it is part of decomposition. This helps us digest the food more readily than if cooked.
nyxs60 11 months ago
First, Susun didn't know what Na stood for and it is basic high school science that it stands for sodium. She said there was more sodium available but in fact we need more potassium than sodium as this causes health problems.
nyxs60 11 months ago
Brigitte's beliefs seem pretty religious. Nothing wrong with that, but I can't buy her arguments.
Susun was much more fascinating and convincing. Great debate!
jimmutennodesu 1 year ago
That was interesting as hell
revived0103 1 year ago
Yes, stomach acid is strong. But humans have no enzyme (cellusale) or bacteria to break down those cell walls. One way is to chew.
Cooking means to apply heat, something like juicing, which breaks open cells walls too, is NOT cooking.
You can't just change the definitions of words to suit your argument.
TheLoserKingdom 1 year ago
I think she is showing frustration about explaining the obvious. I think when Susun talks about cooked food she is again stating that in order to absorb the nutrients from a plant the cell must be broken. Remember she stated freezing will "cook" a food. So it has not been cooked to death just broken enough to make the nutrients available to our bodies.
The3gooddogs 1 year ago
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2healthnuts 1 year ago
@2healthnuts - YES! Susan is a disgusting woman for using facts, evidence, historical context, and science for proving her point!! Brigitte is completely right because she uses personal experience that no one else can really argue about, as well as emotion. Using emotion, fake information, and misinformation is the only way to win an argument.
You are so right. You. How'd you get so smart?
dadoody 1 year ago
HUMAN BEINGS ARE NOT DESIGHNED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY EAT SUSAN REALLY??????????? OMG SO WTF ARE YOU HERE TO DEBATE OVER.... WHY DO YOU CARE???? THAT WOMAN AT FIRST I THOUGHT HAS SOME GOOD POINTS ON THE SIDE OF COOKING.........NASTY ANGRY LADY
draqmoon86 1 year ago
@draqmoon86 Wow. Lots of yelling. I believe that her point here was that eating food should not become an over-intellectualized process, needing lots of equipment, books, rules, etc. With some intuition, basic common sense, good information, and personal empirical evidence, eating can be simple, nutritious, and a gift, rather than a complicated intellectual regime.
2blackwolfeyes 1 year ago
SUSAN JUST ARGUES TO ARGUE....... SHE IS SO STUPID USE YOUR INTIUTION MAYBE IF YOU BALENCED YOUR DIET.....YOU WOULD HAVE THAT BRAIN POWER. AND WHEN YOUR SICK YOU NEEEEEEEEED VITAMIN C
draqmoon86 1 year ago
"Human beings were not designed to think about what they eat" Possibly the dumbest statement I have ever heard. Susun Weed is so stupid hahahaha
777TylerJB 1 year ago
@777TylerJB Agreed! Stupid Comment!
2healthnuts 1 year ago
These two people lack the credentials for such a debate. This is like a debate between two average people with no scientific explanations just reading from some charts. Susun Weed is so brainwashed.
777TylerJB 1 year ago
@777TylerJB ...Weed was the only one who actually provided sound, scientific data to back up the majority of her arguments. Mars was just going about saying how good raw makes her feel and how amazing it makes other people feel without actually providing any hard evidence to back up her statements. Meanwhile, Weed actually defined for Mars exactly how food is processed inside the body and that even if you ingest it raw -- that's not the state in which the nutrition in that food is assimilated
mikek241 1 year ago
@mikek241 What you are referring to as "scientific data" is a flawed nutritional chart from some website. Listen to actual scientists like Brian clement. You have alot to learn.
777TylerJB 1 year ago
@777TylerJB Brian Clement represents the epitome of selective bias where he will acknowledge the research that supports his hypothesis and reject the evidence that contradicts with his theories. This is not the proper way to do science. I didn't see any charts in Weed's presentation, she was constantly citing studies that contradict the raw fooder's ideas about enzyme, vitamins, and the flawed understanding about consuming foods that are actually "raw".
mikek241 1 year ago
eating "raw" only food in a british climate ( especially through winter!!!) is just sheer madness. people are importing all these so called superfoods and powders to eat then and tropical fruits and things. we have an abundance of foods here. we also have to look at what got us here. what did our ancestors eat. good natural home cooked food! what more can be said. as soon as we started eating " mac donnalds " etc we started getting ill. not when granny offered us chicken soup. wake up!
AngelsWithElla 1 year ago
also just look at these two women, the raw food lady has lank hair and dry skin and she looks kinda gaunt and lacking and weak, susun is bright and peachy and has nice cheeks and good hair and skin. jesus said, ye shall know them by their fruits!
AngelsWithElla 1 year ago
that womans raw food world just came tumbleling down lol. susun was so right. and that just more or less cleared up my own nutricional journey up. i have tried an all "raw" food diet before and yes its a good clense no doubt but i always need the cooked food again. i feel lacking and denying to myself if i dont. there is something about that big pan and spoon! lol. also i have spent alot of time around raw foodist and they are weak and their hair isnt good. and skin look dry and strange.
AngelsWithElla 1 year ago
The culprit if my own personal health was processed foods. I eat foods prepared in all the ways mentioned and that works for me. If you're not seeing results or feeling better then try something else. High fructose corn syrup and granulated sugars kill my health and energy majorly. No matter what ppl decide to do. Stay away from process foods and prepare real food how you want.
DarkShadowM99 1 year ago 2
Haven't watched too much of this yet, but this Susan Weed character radiates too much anger and cynicism. It's like shes pissed that Brigitte stole her prom date in high school or something. That doesn't impress me at all.
4amSensei 1 year ago
@4amSensei i thought she seemed very amused, opinionated certainly, and although i don't totally agree with the cooked food definition she does not seem angry.
almayim 1 year ago
Cooked food magically gets more nutrition? And why does Susun keep sidetracking to try and prove her point by making the argument of local vs. shipped. Many raw foodist believe in buying local.
thompson0480 1 year ago
@thompson0480 Dont you understand? The cell walls need to be broken for our bodies to get the nutrition. Its not an easy thing to break the plants cell wall. There needs to be heat or maceration or somehing- but out bodies are not made to do it!
SCOTTDAVIDSON32 1 year ago
Susun has done too much "baking", if you know what I mean! LOL ;)
beemerdi 1 year ago
OMG so Susun Weed denies that the unborm baby is alive! This woman is evil but I think her spiritual beliefs already prove that.
annehish 1 year ago
@annehish
what the hell? why are u bringing abortion into this. While im a rawfoodist, i totally support women's choice.
ohnoyoudidntx 1 year ago
@annehish WWWWWHAT!!!??
SCOTTDAVIDSON32 1 year ago
Dr. Doug Graham should have been here for the raw foods
ChaserHUN 1 year ago
Maybe someone should this Weed to the wisdom of vinaigrette. The acetic acid in the vinegar breaks down the structure & the oil coats the nutrition released so it doesn't get oxidized off. Also, I believe we can rehab our atrophied digestive system. Then too, we can warm food without cooking it. Cooks best keep in mind that cooking is alchemy, so beware the transformation, synergy & such in the process. In this way even the best cooks are reckless
reforest4fertility 1 year ago
@reforest4fertility she mentions breaking down the cell walls with vinegar.
almayim 1 year ago
the woman on the right is right nuts: saying that fermentation is cooking. Tell that to the living probiotics in ferments, or tell that to the may-as-well-be dead enzymes in the cooked food. Yes, fermentation breaks down, softens the structure for easier digestion. But does cooking create vitamins the way the fermenting does? NO! Yeah, "all food is live", but how many times do you got to kill it thru cooking.
reforest4fertility 1 year ago
@reforest4fertility neither cooking or fermenting actually increase vitamin content, to my knowledge. They both increase the availability, and therefor increase the amount which we absorb into our blood and what can be tested. Some elements are actually decreased by fermenting as well as cooking, that's why i do both, getting the full spectrum.
almayim 1 year ago
I'd like to know how the woman on the right gets her nutrition when the woman on the left looks like she's getting enough for the both of them.
plumevine 1 year ago
I think there is a relation to that wire like hair and nutrition ... im not trying to be funny.. she probably got that hair after child birth... it has to do with hormones and not having the nutrition she needed after having a baby.. well in any case I found a load of flaws in her statements :(
realityvsmyth 1 year ago
Susun really is very negative & aggressive. Brigitte is so much more positive.
I don't understand S's addition of "I eat food from my garden". Eating local & seasonal can be done regardless of if you plan to cook it or not.
In S's own argument, she contends that eating raw is impossible & raw foodists feel good because their food is "cooked" via sprouting, dehydrating, etc so what is she actually arguing against? She's only proving that raw foods are viable and going against her own argument.
DimaRakesah 1 year ago
@DimaRakesah Aggrssive, condescending, arrogant.. Speaks massively for her philosophy.
plumevine 1 year ago
That wass Gooood!! Also i HATE this new youtube format!
22poopoo 1 year ago
The only thing I agree with Susan about is that enzymes in raw food most likely do not play a role in food digestion. After researching a few things it appears a lot of her info is just plain FALSE. For instance, in 1 c. of raw O.J. there is 4 times more Vit C than in a large baked potato.
Re: Brigitte, unfortunately, I agree she had a weak debate, relying a lot on anecdotal evidence.
Gee, maybe gorilla breast cancer rates will go down if they all used Kraft Thousand Island on their leaves ;-)
Marcoosianism 2 years ago 2
I was just about to look that up lol a baked potato... my gut and everything attached to it says the fresh OJ is better and thats really the judge ;)
realityvsmyth 1 year ago
The problem I have with this entire 'debate' is that its not a debate based on beliefs or who you like better... This is a matter of facts - Either its healthier for humans to eat raw or to eat cooked.
I think the empirical anthropological evidence speaks for itself, and then to top it off we've got modern science discovering what humans already once knew. Cooked food is healthier.
I really like Susun's definition of raw vs cooked food. Cooked doesn't have to mean heated.
StopTheRobbery2 11 months ago
Incredible post!
Thank you so much for posting this...
StopTheRobbery2 11 months ago
Thnx 4 sharing.
Next time, Please invite David Wolfe to the debate, i love Ms. Mars, but she simply does not have enough practical knowledge to explain why raw foods are far superior to their cooked version, for our health.
joyisaware 2 years ago
look at the way they look and thats enough to judge if raw food is better.
todayisthedaytolive 2 years ago
Human beings are not designed to think about what they eat?? What the heck does that mean? We Think...because we are designed to think! Even my dog thinks about what he eats, its almost all he thinks about. LOL
karenasmm 2 years ago 5
@karenasmm LMFAO! Good point. That seriously made me laugh out loud.
kaymarie888 2 years ago
@karenasmm What I'm thinking is, if we're not designed to think about what we eat, if we were to eat as we breathe, then doesn't that mean to grab an apple, or a bananna off a tree end just eat it? Rather than how to prepare it and with what? Doesn't it mean that we're designed to eat raw food?
plumevine 1 year ago 2
lol thats what I said ... perhaps a raw food diet might clear up that fog old weedy has going on up there. I am sure she is knowledgable on herbs and what not but what she was saying really didnt fly with the more intelligent crowd.
realityvsmyth 1 year ago
Susan reminds me of my controlling X husband who thought his way was the RIGHT and only WAY. He was a very angry and manipulating person.
Also, the proof is in the pudding, and it looks like susan is eating that hannaford instant kind.
veggeautiful 2 years ago 2
I don't see raw foods as a religion, raw foods is a healing tool. I don't care if susan is confusing cooking with processing of foods.... raw foods are processed in a very gentle way that is closer to nature which results in reversal of disease and gain of vibrant health.
Dreadwitch 2 years ago 2
Brigitte Mars is so pretty. And i don't understand why Susun seems so angry during the discussion.
xoxoemily734 2 years ago 2
Looking into biblical teachings of nutrition could be interesting for some. Of course even that has debateable translation.
I respect both women for their participation in this event but I disagree with Susun's evaluation that there is no raw food. I also disagreed with her statement that all food is life. When an animal is butchered for consumption it has become death.
propergait 2 years ago 3
@propergait
Your comment just reminded me of the biblical law to not eat blood, it says that the life is in the blood and so it is not to be eaten. But every green herb, fruits etc is the first thing Adam was told to eat. I agree that when you kill something you eat death, especially if it was brutal.
karenasmm 2 years ago 2
The major difference between hemoglobin and chlorrophyl is that our blood is based around iron, while plant blood is based around magnesium. With this new knowledge, reapply that equasion. The life is in the blood, eat only plants.
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend
Yes i believe that the life in the blood refers to animal not plant "blood". But it is interesting to note that if you dont cook a plant, you dont destroy the chlorrophyl, which is highly nutritious! So all of the life of the plant life is transfered to our bodies, which is the circle of life in action. Amazing!
karenasmm 1 year ago
@karenasmm It truly is a work of art, our design. I've heard it said many times in the raw community that if you didn't believe in a God before going raw, you will soon after! Refreshing to hear. :)
Waylend 1 year ago
Susan said by her own research the definition of cooking, is heating food. applying oil, formentation, juicing, in no way is heating, and therefore is not cooking. I can not believe no one corrected her on this. Her entire debate is de throwned by the defenition of cooking. Raw food is raw. Eating alone is not cooking. If that was the argument then it still BOILS down to applying heat or not.
JayDeeofKrakInk 2 years ago 8
@JayDeeofKrakInk its amazing how hypocritical she is, she said that the smell of the cooked food was not the vitamins or minerals escaping ....but check her video here " watch?v=FvqWKT9IDXU&feature=related "
she says that she uses a lid to keep the vitamins and minerals from escaping. lol . crazy !
rainbowsalads 5 months ago
I would not take nutritional advice from Susan based on her weight and her attitude.Being able to sustain life on cooked food for millions of years does not mean it is optimum. What about the Essenes? What about the Genesis diet? What about how awesome raw vegans feel when they don't eat tons of nuts and seeds? What about all the healings from raw vegan diet? She eats raw meat and dairy.....what about the parasites from raw meat? Too much left to talk about in that debate.
ravendream33 2 years ago
@ravendream33 I agree in many degrees to your comment.
JayDeeofKrakInk 2 years ago
Who of the debaters would you most like to look like, that is the question to go raw vs. cooked! Not sure about the cooked look:(
rkventures 2 years ago
Everyone infers that they are the same age but I feel that is erroneous and an effort to draw attention from the issues at hand.
Susun has presented a much more convincing debate than Brigitte IMO.
morganmay1 2 years ago
@rkventures looks alone can not make the decision, But I do see that susan sure has more fat on her body. Is this fat healthy? no
JayDeeofKrakInk 2 years ago
Raw had healed me cooked had killed me. On cooked i looked like a sponge on Raw I look like a God. Then show me an other study on cooking and I'll laugh for days and I'll show you my body on raw.
ponhand 2 years ago
susun is eh... i think bridgitte has better common sense and i dont like the vibes from susun
hopesolofan18 2 years ago
I think that Susun is more convincing to an unbiased listener!
morganmay1 2 years ago 2
unbiased, or addicted to cooked food? Try raw food for 30 days, then critisize it.
Waylend 1 year ago 2
You should think before jumping to conclusions about someone else. I wasn't criticizing, simply making an observation to the obviously biased views of some and I do eat a large percentage of raw foods. I personally believe that balance is the key to all things including good health. Jesus Christ built a fire on the shore and cooked fish for his disciples, I trust his instruction above all else and please, if you have an atheistic comment I'm not interested.
morganmay1 1 year ago
In many ways balance is key, though not in all. If you are personally convinced by your research that something is unhealthy or a contamination of your own temple, it becomes wrong. There are many things that were allowed throughout scripture which were not approved. Jesus himself spoke of peoples 'hardheartedness' at Matt. 18:8. Genesis 1:29,30 is very clear as to our food. Scriptures not contradicting themselves lead to an explanation of post-flood scarcity allowing for meat. Atheistic-no
Waylend 1 year ago
I can't believe I misspelled criticize...
Waylend 1 year ago
@Waylend
Good to hear!
morganmay1 1 year ago
very true ... if you have not tried it you really cant say.. I have been transitioning for less than 3 months and I have loads of energy, lost almost 30ibs and my adult acne that popped up last year has been zapped! I am not totally raw and have loads of peer pressure that makes for some cooked food set backs but there is no doubt in my mind that I am going to right direction. I think that Susan should take the Raw food challenge!!
realityvsmyth 1 year ago
@realityvsmyth daniel vitalis!!!!!
SCOTTDAVIDSON32 1 year ago
The commentator makes excellent points.
DauntlessDiva 2 years ago
Sounds and LOOKS to me like Susun Weed would benefit from some healthy living foods. And from not smoking as much, if that's why her voice is so gravelly.
DauntlessDiva 2 years ago
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AmirHealthGuru 2 years ago
Susan's a gross, delusional cow.
Akim1121 2 years ago
you took the words out of my mouth...lol
Waylend 1 year ago
I think that the audience's comments where right on!!! Balance!! It's not all about what we put in our mouth.
XeggerollX 2 years ago 2
And it takes 7 years to finally replace all the cells in your body... what you put in your mouth rides your ass for years.
Waylend 1 year ago
The definition of cooking is not "preparing", it's "preparing WITH HEAT". I would go on to say that that is heat at temperatures exceeding 120 degrees.
Food prepared with oil, salt etc is not dding any heat. Putting thing in the sun is still not "heat" in the sense of the level of heat in cooking. Perhaps RAW isn't the right word if it's prepared, but cooked isn't the right word for prepared live-food either!
SecretsOfLongevity 2 years ago
Raw plant food is more like a broom on the system rather than nourishment, thats why it keeps peoples pipes clean and moving. Raw meat and raw milk is building, cooked plants grains and animal products delivers the nutrients for building rather than cleaning of the system. Building vs cleansing its simple.
szymborski11 2 years ago
Have you even researched amino acids and protein structure? Or the way that the protein is deconstructed through the effort of your body, then only producing a slight amount of usable resources? You're right about the fiber... it does clean you out. While the meat you just ate putrifies in your gut for days...
Waylend 1 year ago
Since human beings weren't designed to think about what they eat, I'm gonna go eat some dirt. It doesn't matter what I eat because I wasn't even designed to think about it. I can eat dirt, bugs, worms, rats, whatever.
Tamizationify 2 years ago 3
"I can eat dirt, bugs, worms, rats, whatever."
Bugs, worms and even rats (based on what the rats were consuming, i.e. native nutrient-dense vegetation if they are in fact living in wild or non-modernized settings) are all potentially power-packed forms of nutrition. I would recommend raw of course.
Interesting how you choose foods which would in fact be very natural for early hominid species.
reuters(dot)com/article/idUSSCH55179420070605
Peace.
RawRebuild 2 years ago
Weed doesn't know what cooking is.
Tamizationify 2 years ago 3
I like raw food, this was weird
LifeOM 2 years ago 3
The whole thing about digested fruits and veggies are "cooked" in the stomach. Even if it is, all molecules and particles are INSIDE of you, so you can nurture all of it. If you cook it in the frying pan, some or lots of it goes away - depending on how long and hard you fry it.
Fakepilot 2 years ago 2
I mean, the acid in your tummy breaks molecules apart - it doesn't teleport them to another galaxy...
Fakepilot 2 years ago 7
If you were paying attention you would have got from the debate that "cooked" doesn't have to be in a pot on the stove. Cooking means that food can be "cooked" by means of dehydration, allowing fruit to ripen completely on the vine, dousing a salad with a couple tablespoons of oil, etc, etc. A more specific and indepth description of what raw foodists mean by "raw", and "cooked" foodists mean by "cooked" needs to happen. And enough with the silly bickering.
EvasivePerfection 2 years ago
Exactly!!! Great statement!
SCOTTDAVIDSON32 2 years ago
Why......thank you!
EvasivePerfection 2 years ago
So true!
morganmay1 1 year ago
There have been a few other comments naming specific points of temperature at which the term 'cooking' may apply more appropriately. Though, generally speaking, the definition of the word rarely has positive conotations and, when referring to food, almost always infers a substantial increase in temperature rather than a molecular or chemical reaction from, say, oil or acids. A more appropriate term for those processes might be: pre-digestion. Sounds odd though, I'm sure there's a better one.
Waylend 1 year ago
I partly agree with Weeds comment on the raw food diet not being ecological in a cold climate.
I believe that you CAN live ecologically sound in as a raw foodist in a cold climate, but most won't eat that way. I know that I certainly don't since I buy a lot of imported fruits in the winter.
It is however a VERY small part of my ecological footprint as a whole so I don't think that much about it honestly. But enough not to use eco friendly as an argument for my diet.
quasim0do 2 years ago 2
I appreciate Susan's intensity, but I don't understand why she is so aggressive and antagonistic. People eating raw food and enjoying the benefits certainly does her no harm; live and let live. Wellness isn't about attacking one another, but personal discovery and enjoying life. I appreciate that Brigitte talked about all the great things the diet does for her, whereas Susan just attempted to pick her opponent apart rather than emphasizing the benefits of her opinion.
histerics3 2 years ago
I agree with you. I was waiting for Susan to give examples of how beneficial her food has been with her health. Susan made statements that gave me the sense it was all about consumption and not conserving, when she said you can cook spinach and eat more of it. Brigitte said you don't have to eat as much of it raw and you can still have a lot.
fendeetwcguyana 2 years ago
@histerics3 Indeed, it told me a great deal and not what came out of her mouth..
plumevine 1 year ago
I agree with Weed's closing line: "we're not designed to think about what they eat". It contradicted everything she said in the debate. (????)
If I didn't thing about what I ate (or how to eat it) and lived naturally (ie in a forest like the primate I am), I'd eat like a primate: fruit and leaves straight off the trees.
So that's how I eat.
Gary1111001 2 years ago 2
But I also feel protein is important of course, and must be considered. Has anyone tried pureed cashews, its an awesome cream sauce!
rlhope1 2 years ago
I felt the audience member who agreed there is wisdom in both was the most balanced.
I truly feel there is wisdom in both. And even if Weed argued that fermented and oiled salads and ripe peaches are cooked, I feel that this type of "cooking" does hold some special vitality, and might be really great to eat regularly. That is, I feel better eating sauer krout, than eating a steak.
rlhope1 2 years ago 2
Weed started this debate by re-defining the word "cooked" so that all foods are cooked no matter what.
Mars should have said, "I do not accept your premise that all foods are, by definition, cooked." If she had done so, Weed would've had to defend her false premise.
Since Mars did not challenge Weed's false premise, the entire debate was stacked against Mars from the start.
Cooked = more than 100 degrees.
Raw = less than 100 degrees
Mars would have won if she had insisted on this.
bimms07 2 years ago
Great point.
I think something is raw until 114 degrees.
I think Mars had a higher purpose than to win. But to anyone who cares, they can see that Weed continually said things that can't be true: "we don't get Vitamin C"??????? Huh?
Gary1111001 2 years ago
Eating Raw Foods is not a fad and has been sustaining life for centuries. There are many cultures that cook (with the heat of fire) VERY little. Eating mostly raw foods even will save and enhance your life.
LarryPowell630 2 years ago
Yeah, I think this wasn't a very good debate. They needed someone at Susuns level of education and practice.
JCWachell 2 years ago 4
some folks thrive on a really high raw fruit diet while others go more for veges & some 50% cooked 50% Raw.Ive personaly found the best Vegan diet is the the one that suits YOU. Experiment till you find your Peace.Exercise,posative life choices,regular juice fasts,& plenty of Love win the day for me!.Blessings health dudesX
veganpowernow 2 years ago 2
THE BEST RESPONSE. This is so true.
LarryPowell630 2 years ago
I really thought how interesting a point Mars made about Life Force Energy in food, sure Weed made the point of everything is cooking ,true , case in point all cooking is in varying degrees.But life force is also something to consider
meggiestmation 2 years ago
the definition of Cooking the application of heat
srhlvnv 2 years ago 2
I don't think Mars was very well researched in her arguements just as a debater. She seemed more spiritual and give opinion answers which will never win a debate. As for the info what having to much of anything as a bad thing. To much BetaCarotene. Studies show high doses of BetaCarotene made cancer patience worse as apposed to eating a variety of foods which is what is important. Raw or not variety is the key. Good videos gave me some more perspective.
RAINRAWALLIANCE 2 years ago 2
that study used synthetic betacarotene as far as I remember.
Waylend 1 year ago
@RAINRAWALLIANCE I left with the feeling that Brigitte spoke in a language of higher resonance, which spoke to our hearts and not completely to our minds, didn't condescend or attack.
plumevine 1 year ago 3
absolutly
realityvsmyth 1 year ago
Good grief, another freeking fad diet. Gee I wonder how much longer they will live? Does anyone remember Susan Powder "fat makes you fat" or Marylin and Harvey Diamond was it food combining and too many others to list. "Raw foods" it's a religion and anyone that does not tow the line is so not with it. When will we have enough of this?
crissala 2 years ago
To me it's not about the length of my life, it's about how i feel at this moment. And raw foods make me feel better than I did on the healthy cooked food I used to eat.
quasim0do 2 years ago
Ripe, fresh food is not cooked. Cooking denatures food, I agree that altering fresh food by marinating, fermenting or dehydrating is not ideal, but it's still not "cooked". Cooked food loses its flavor and denatures it, alters it far more.
We are comparing food prep to using high heat to change the structure. You can marinate broccoli 24 hours in lemon juice and it will never lose it's color and go bland as when it's been cooked with heat.
rawcurls1 3 years ago
LOL. Weed considers EVERYTHING as cooking, so you will never win the debate against her. I just looked at my apple and it was cooked!
Does she qualify for a Nobel prize?
InvisiMan2006 3 years ago 3
its true tho. fermentation is cooking. digestion is cooking. the point in cooking. is so that its already partially processed. you're body has evolved over the past couple thousand years to work with cooked food.
sjfmeyers67 3 years ago
That's not the point though. There's a difference between cooked and prepared food.
The definition of cooking is to apply heat to food. Weed tries to argue that a ripe apple straight from the tree is cooked. That doesn't really fall into the accepted definition of cooked.
Trying to win an argument by redefining words just doesn't make sense.
The raw food movement has already established what preparation methods are acceptable in the raw kitchen, let's work with those definitions.
quasim0do 2 years ago 11
Very well put.
Waylend 1 year ago
@quasim0do That may be true but what Weed was trying to illustrate is simply that any food that is ingested is "processed" in some way before it is assimilated into your body -- whether that be through fermenting, cooking (conventional definition), dehydrating, or breaking down with acid.
mikek241 1 year ago
I don't think Brigitte Mars was really up to going against Susun Weed. Perhaps it would've been better to have Karen Knowler, or Shazzie, or...oooo David Wolfe might be able to match Weed's fire! Dr. Rick Dina would've blown her out of the water. Jameth Sheridan is also a herbalist, he and Weed might actually get along quite well...Love to Brigitte, but her game was lacking some juice. Personally, I live comfortably and healthfully at about 80-90% raw. Any less, and I don't feel my best!
JadeQueen 3 years ago 5
I think Dr Sebi, would have blown Susan out of the the Universe. Brigitte wasn't prepared for this debate although, I liked how she gave examples of her and her spouse's benefit from the raw food diet and Susan never did give an example of how her diet helps her. She also appeared to be vitamin D deficient (Susan's teeth).
fendeetwcguyana 2 years ago
7:44
We are not designed to think about what we eat?
Did she just say that?
And she thinks that is the most important thing to remember?
Why would she ever think that we are 'not designed to think about the food we eat?'
Whatever yo, let us thinkers figure out what humans ought to eat...
1q2w3e4r5t6yusername 3 years ago 2
I bet I know where THAT comes from...
coquettetiquette 2 years ago
Nutrition? Science, please help us!!!
Does cooking destroy the nutrition of food?
Is it more 'nutritious' to eat only raw foods?
Can you live longer eating mostly fruits and vegetables?
Do animal products contribute to disease?
Does cooked food contribute to disease?
What is the ideal diet for the human species?
1q2w3e4r5t6yusername 3 years ago
@1q2w3e4r5t6yusername
Science has established that when plant foods are cooked they lose about half of their vitamins. IMO it follows that eating raw is more nutritious which could lead to a longer life, prevent disease and therefore would be ideal for humans.
karenasmm 1 year ago
I eat a lot of raw foods too but I also listen to my body & don't limit myself. Brigitte is peaceful yes, but she looks very unhealthy- so skinny, no color in her face & unhealthy thin dull hair. Same with the moderator. IMHO
4truth12 3 years ago
Well humans, like most other animals, are supposed to be skinny.
And honestly it's the lighting in the studio that makes them look pale and "unhealthy". If you look at other videos and photos of them, they all look a lot different.
quasim0do 2 years ago
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1q2w3e4r5t6yusername 3 years ago
I hear that! Just LOOK at her. LOL. She doesn't even know half of the things she is talking about half the time.
paradigm667 3 years ago
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1q2w3e4r5t6yusername 3 years ago
My proof is in the pudding....delicious raw chia pudding that is. All we need is to take a good look at these two ladies. Brigitte Mars is so beautiful and vibrant, she also has a very gentle and peaceful way about her. Susun Weed is just completely the opposite. Raw food hands down! Susun's arguments were the equivalent of a 10 mph wind TRYING to sway a giant sequoia.
rawfoodchica 3 years ago