540WHP 350z (11.6@126) vs Stage 3 S4 (M3=Lunch)

[DramaKidStudioz]

whose stage 3 where you using, APR - Vast- MRC tuning-?

[hootieti]

BOMBS OVER BAGHDAAAAD!!!

[moniemoua]

is this s4 bought from minnesota? 

[DAknightNAMEDmaddog]

Bad in a good way

[DAknightNAMEDmaddog]

Used to have a s4 twin turbo fully stock. It was bad

[BgCastro24]

@DAknightNAMEDmaddog I hope you mean bad as in "good".....

[darkitalian1]

The b5 s4 was the best one,all the other ones were shit.

[Derschl]

Great Car that S4!

Whats the song name?

[clint240]

Well, how i like how they never went from a dig....of course the s4 is at a disadvantage...good stuff from both cars though!

[jhoe1upGuy]

@clint240 I'm sure it will handle its business off the line. 11.6 is no slouch off the line.

[GODFaTHa212]

BRAND NEW

[hooahayes]

I'm really just wondering what the hell they did to that Z. Stock they aren't terribly fast. Did he go supercharged or turbo? Ultimately though it does have a substantially larger displacement than the S4.

[hooahayes]

Now they're glorified Audi's and thank God for that. Other than the Italian styling they were garbage before that. But it's all VAG. Don't get so touchy. It's still a nice car. I just don't think people should be crappin on APR for this "off the shelf" crap. Just because they sacrifice some horsepower to keep their product emissions legal. And if you don't live right by an in house tuner, they seem to bee the best alternative.

[hooahayes]

take a look at the parts in your S4 dick. You own a glorified VW.

[DRobSForce]

@hooahayes

And what do you think a Lamborghini is underneath? Pathetic.

[xByrned420x]

@hooahayes And I bet Ferrari's are glorified Fiats too right? My S4 will eat your ass for breakfast

[hooahayes]

@xByrned420x Will your S4 eat a twin turbo r32 for breakfast? I didn't think so. Your having AWD is not specific to Audi anymore. Quit being a badge snob. The point is that most of Audi's cars share the majority of their parts with a comparable VW. Your S4 is no exception. Pretty much only the high end cars like the R8 stand alone in the lineup.

[TrustworthyMtgGuy]

@hooahayes which VW has quattro 6 gears and a 2.7t......okay, so it shares a platform with the passat...and...

whatever...A6 2.7T 6speed with ko4's fueling and a tune is the ultimate ...considering you kin get one and alll the work done for under 20K now....KING! forget rwd and everyone has an s4...plus they are looking dated.

[hooahayes]

@TrustworthyMtgGuy Other than the 2.7T you can get the R32, the Golf R and the Passat or CC with 4 Motion all wheel drive (VW doesn't call it quattro) and most of them have a 6 spd option. The old R32's came with 6 as well. And anything you can do to a 2.7 T I can do to a VR6, probably for less money. And what is looking dated? the S4?

[jhals07]

@hooahayes the R32 is a 3.2 liter engine, that's why its called an R32, Volkswagen has never had a car with a 2.7tt engine. @drewnashty pretty summed up the AWD systems.

[hooahayes]

@jhals07 I understand what an r32 is. I wasn't saying it was a 2.7L. Thanks though.

[jhals07]

@hooahayes ahhh my bad

[drewnashty]

@hooahayes I'm not defending the other guy, but there is no VW that has the 2.7TT engine, and there's only been one VW that used a Torsen based AWD system, B5 Passat. Other car makes do use Torsen tho. Torsen is mechanical, instant, less prone to understeer and gives the driver more feel and input vs the electronic Haldex that is used an all other VW's and some Audis and due to less drag is more fuel efficient than Torsen. You can update the Haldex but it still can't perform equal to Torsen

[hooahayes]

@drewnashty I get that there are differences. This all started with some guy not knowing that Audi's are made of mostly VW parts and have been for quite a while. If you read back it gets pretty ridiculous. Personally I'd rather have a VR6 than the 90 degree Audi block from the B5. Hell of a lot less problems.

[MrRcarney2010]

@hooahayes so what is a lambo then ? a glorified audi ? how about the Bugatti ? if i am not mistaken all of these are the same company ? vw never made a bad car infact they are responsible for every hot hatch ever made thanks the the inspiration of the mk1 golf gti your probs just a jap fanboy or an American muscle retard

nothing wrong with any jap or American muscle cars just there simple minded owners

[hooahayes]

@MrRcarney2010 No I am a former MK1 GTI owner and a current MKV gti owner. I love VW's and yeah in a way a Lambo is an Audi (thank God). I like some JDM and American Muscle too. But I am a huge VW fan. My point was that an Audi is really a classed up VW, which the S4 is. And the S4 guy on this page started getting all badge snobbish like his car isn't 90% VW parts. And yes all of those exotics are funded by VAG.

[Rtree115]

z is on pump.

[hooahayes]

oh and as a VW owner I can say that that is a very nice Z.

[JeansBiturboA6]

@hooahayes I dont see a VW in this race... What are you talking about? And yes, APR is the weak sauce! Check the forums? I have many friends with A4s, S3s, S4... and they sure dont go to APR with peformance, VAST, AWE, JHM... those are real shops. I have a VAST Stage 3 S4 with w/m injection and it drives just like stock, of course until I step on the accelerator! ;) And no, no any retard can slap a huge turbo/fuel management on these cars, lol, you sound like one though.

[hooahayes]

@JeansBiturboA6 What are you putting down wheel? Could you pass emissions? And do you need the w/m for safety's sake or is it just for some extra punch?

[JeansBiturboA6]

@hooahayes About 430awhp and its my daily driver, 120k miles, runs smooth! I can pass emissions with no problems, my setup allows me to put the cats back on and off whenever I want. The w/m injection is for an extra punch, it starts spraying at 8psi and full spray at 14psi. Its almost like using race gas on pump gas and it cools down the temp. on the intake! Awesome upgrade! The S4 on the video is probably an OTS tune putting down 350awhp or maybe a little more.

[hooahayes]

@JeansBiturboA6 - And yet when VW wants someone to do work on their cars they call APR. What evidence do you have that their products are unreliable. Check the forums, I have heard almost no complaints about APR except price. You also have to think about drivability for everyday use, which APR does. Any retard can slap a huge turbo/fuel management and intercoolers for big numbers

[jabba12000]

Don't fuck with that Z

[SCHIZOPHRENlC]

Your music library is really outdated man... this is the music I listened to when I was 8 and using Napster. I'm not even kidding dude. I can't believe I'm even hearing this music.

[audis4ification]

as much as i love s4's especially nogaro I don't mind seeing it lose to this 350. that thing is pretty f'kn sick.

[Alshaytan666]

2001.5 Mint condition Audi S4 for sale.. 38900 miles... look at my videos to see a detailed video of the car

[Soprano313]

S4 all the way!

[kohlarman]

slow ass crap right thurrr

[kohlarman]

slow ass crap right thurrrrr

[g123k]

whats the song at the beginning?

[metallicafn]

im sorry to tell u but an actual stage 3 would eat that 350z for breakfast, actual stage 3's with good driver run 11's flat so calling that a stage 3 and letting that japanese trash roll on u tells me one thing that ur undeserving of ur car, i swear u drive like that against me and my a4 will eat u alive and its only a stage 2 seriously learn to bring out the full potential of ur car and then post vids

[Billboard2001]

@metallicafn You don't think going from a roll has anything to do with it no? No digs here pal...

[metallicafn]

@Billboard2001 dude i eat 350z's from a roll or a dead stop and i only have an a4 if that guy cant beat a twin turbo one with an s4 i will gladly take it off his hands and the vid info is wrong an s4 with k04's is a stage two at best, it becomes a stage 3 when you have gt25's or 30's so its annoying when people heighten the stage to try and make their cars look better, and if that s4 had a full exhaust done the turbo's would spool a hell of a lot faster making it a good stage two which it isnt

[JeansBiturboA6]

@metallicafn You my friend have no idea what you are talking about!! K04s are stage 2? Stage 3s are PJ K04s or larger!! Stage 3 is a GT25 or larger?? WTF?? LOL. Where do you get your info from? And no, you sure dont eat 350zs with your A4, you wont even beat a stock B5 S4 with your stage 2. The DPs will help the turbos to spool faster not the exhaust like you said! A decent stage 3 will run low 12s, a couple of tweaks and it will run high 11s, weight reduction or ODPs low 11s.

[JeansBiturboA6]

@metallicafn If its true thats a 540Whp lighter 350z, (which means its modded) of course the aprox. 400awhp heavier S4 will lose!!! I know what Im talking about, I had a stage 2 A6 and now I have a full Stage 3 S4 doing 430AWHP with water/meth injection. You need to get your info right buddy... You are talking crap, dont let us B5s lovers down.

[metallicafn]

@JeansBiturboA6 ok facts are this you have k04 setup with exhaust work done s4 has 400hp+ thats stage 2 ,stage 3 people use gt30's with bigger injectors and ecu tune with intake mod which makes over 600hp easy those are the facts thats why they can run 11's flat out but i mean if you think k04 is stage 3 you my friend are the one who need to do your research, go on youtube and browse some vids and ask people who have stage 3's how much hp its putting out, generally 600hp+ check for urself

[JeansBiturboA6]

@metallicafn Lol, I have a stage 3 S4. check Awetuning, Vast performance, Asp... etc. to educate yourself. ;) and no, they dont go with GT30s, GT28s at max.

[bigern545]

@metallicafn LOL ... what a flippin' tool.

stage 2 = chip plus exhaust and stock turbos.

stage 3 = k04's and fueling/tuning.

stage 3+ = RS6's or TiAL 605's or GT25's on stock block... and so on..

and jean is right.. only GT30's if the block is bored and stroked... they are to small (2.7) to get 2 GT30's rolling...lol..

[metallicafn]

@bigern545 wow there is a stage one which u describe as stage two, ur car doesnt come stage one it comes stock you fool and you dont have to waist hundreds of dollars on ecu tuning with k04's, i mean really u dont think audi engineers were like o no one will ever modify this car, o u sir are quite a genius, and its not too small to get gt30's going it actually does better without bore, same shit goes for any engine if you bore it the throttle response dies because you manifolds arent built to-

[JeansBiturboA6]

@metallicafn You do know the stock turbos are K03s right? And do you know the difference between BHP and WHP? You need to do some research, you make yourself look like an ignorant my friend.

[metallicafn]

@JeansBiturboA6 yes i am aware of both thanks and putting on tiny mods and making ur car seem like its going up so many stages at once just seems childish i've put 3k+ into my a4 and i still barely consider it a stage 2 so obviously i get annoyed when u guys sit there and say o look its a stage one because of a chip to the ecu, it goes up a stage when turbo's get bigger and intake and exhaust are included with turbo's so what u count for upping stage really doesnt count for me butpotato "potato"

[bigern545]

@metallicafn i applaud you for being a free thinker and having your own opinion, but that does not change the facts. if you have problems with reality, deal with it via psychologist or other treatment, dont argue with us about what is or what isnt... or, you can call up AWE, APR, VAST, EPL, JHM, ASP, and tell them how they are wrong. ask them what is included in their stage 3 kit and then go ape shit on them and give them your points. let us know how it goes.

[metallicafn]

@bigern545 haha psychologist thats fantastic, well keep paying out the ass for companies who tell you that having k04's makes it a stage 3, apr has a bunch of products for my car that they say r stage two bs and i have bought and tuned different products that have cost a third of the price and i have more hp than buying their bullshit but then again when you know just what every product does on ur car its easy to see companies are giving you halfass products that dont deliverbut thats my opinion

[bigern545]

@metallicafn ....well...la-di-freakin'-da..­.. good opinion..

that still doesnt mean shit to 99/9% of everyone alive..

..so...STFU!!!!

[JeansBiturboA6]

@metallicafn APR??? They suck my friend and they are expensive and not reliable, they sell a bunch of crap that you dont even need and they say its a MUST. What products are you talking about that cost the third of the price and gives you more HP? haha... no idea, uh? Check awe, vast, epl, asp, jhm... those guys are real Audi tuners!

[JeansBiturboA6]

@metallicafn Lol, you gotta be kidding... you dont even have an A4. Our cars have bigger turbos, fueling kit, bigger intercoolers, custom tuned (not just an OTS chip!) etc. And BTW, APR is the worst of all those companies. Loser!

[metallicafn]

@JeansBiturboA6 why do peple say that? "you dont even have an a4" i mean why else would i tell you my opinion seriously and you have the same turbo moron its a k04 jesus and im the ignorent one yea no and my ecu untuned runs my k04 just fine and bigger intercoolers? u have two they r not bigger and before you think ur cars all that hot my a4 starts at 150 hp and i can get it to 400 no prob while ur starts at 278 and u guys r claimin 450 at stg 3 my car improves more then urs in this case so

[JeansBiturboA6]

@metallicafn You dont even have an A4 because you know nothing about these cars! And only APR considers a Stage3 A4 with a GT turbo, they changed their setup from a K04 to a GT turbo! If you have a K04 then you are already runing a bigger turbo than stock you idiot! Yes, we have bigger intercoolers to handle the extra power! You will only achieve 400CHP with a big GT turbo!! While we achieve 500+CHP with PJ K04s!! Thats Stage 3 S4 you!!! You dont even know the difference between CHP and WHP!

[metallicafn]

@JeansBiturboA6 yes i have a k04-15 on mine and its not that apr considers it a stage 3 with gt turbo's its that people who want the most horsepower use gt turbo's because that what stage 3 is by definition you upgrade turbo's ur car goes up one more stage all the excess bullshit you think upgrades stage is actually what the turbo needs in order to perform at its best but thats too far of a stretch for u to think about because you seem to lack a brain that understands logic

[metallicafn]

@JeansBiturboA6 yes i have a k04-15 on mine and its not that apr considers it a stage 3 with gt turbo's its that people who want the most horsepower use gt turbo's because that what stage 3 is by definition you upgrade turbo's ur car goes up one more stage all the excess bullshit you think upgrades stage is actually what the turbo needs in order to perform at its best but thats too far of a stretch for u to think about because you seem to lack a brain that understands logic

[metallicafn]

@JeansBiturboA6 yes i have a k04-15 on mine and its not that apr considers it a stage 3 with gt turbo's its that people who want the most horsepower use gt turbo's because that what stage 3 is by definition you upgrade turbo's ur car goes up one more stage all the excess bullshit you think upgrades stage is actually what the turbo needs in order to perform at its best but thats too far of a stretch for u to think about because you seem to lack a brain that understands logic

[metallicafn]

@JeansBiturboA6 yes i have a k04-15 on mine and its not that apr considers it a stage 3 with gt turbo's its that people who want the most horsepower use gt turbo's because that what stage 3 is by definition you upgrade turbo's ur car goes up one more stage all the excess bullshit you think upgrades stage is actually what the turbo needs in order to perform at its best but thats too far of a stretch for u to think about because you seem to lack a brain that understands logic

[JeansBiturboA6]

@metallicafn Lol, shut up man, you are an idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about, laterzzzz.

[metallicafn]

@bigern545 to handle the extra load a bored engine demands meaning you car actually does worse unless you change those as well but i mean have you tried getting racing manifolds for an s4 its not cheap and you car goes from street car to race car, and thats when it doesnt rate by stage its rated by racing class not road class making it completely unfair to anyone who you race, maybe if you worked with these for a living you would know but u dont

[bigern545]

@metallicafn stage 1 is just a chip. stage 2 is chip plus exhaust. it is a turboed car so it makes a huge difference.

so you are still a flippin' tool .. and a fuckin' idiot. i have built my own stage 3 S4. in the process of building another. so much typing just to make yourself THAT much more of an idiot.

go troll somewheres else you little midget man...

[JeansBiturboA6]

@bigern545 its amazing how some people talk out of their asses! Lol. This guy has no idea what hes talking about! Two actual owners of a Stage 3 S4 (you and I) trying to make this stuborn guy understand... wasting time man! Nice S4 btw!

[GhostKid0201]

wats in the z??

[SCHIZOPHRENlC]

Wow dude, you need to upgrade your music library... this is shit I listened to when I was 12, not even kidding.

[shibidi]

man, i'm looking for a b5 s4 in california but it's so damn hard to find a decent one. b5's all the way..

[Lihanitastic]

@shibidi colorado. i found a 2001.5 with 95,000 mi for 7200. they are all over CO

[blueoctaneevoX]

Good runs! That 350 moves tho!

[horsemeatavengers]

so was the audi running MTM? he would have dominated if he had REVO cheaper and 10x more badass! :D

[spokismONE]

@horsemeatavengers you sir are a clown

[horsemeatavengers]

@spokismONE Hmm dont think so sir. Because when i had my b5 i was running REVO and raced another b5 using mtm. and a few others like apr and giac and so on with just about same exact mods and killed :D

[audis4mister]

great run.. wish they stopped at a light once tho ;)

[CamtheMan926]

black your tails on the z...sick anyway tho

[p10ghost]

Im a nissan lover, and a nissan owner, but i have always wanted an S4... both sick cars.

[shogun7907]

@p10ghost me too!!

[zmadman210]

time to slap some GT25's on the S4 ;)

[SickAudi]

@zmadman210 gt2871r

[zmadman210]

@SickAudi lol wut? are you saying thats what he should be running? twin 2871R? that would be awesome, but you'd lose some the "insta-boost" characteristic that the S4 is known for.

[SickAudi]

@zmadman210 so u mean stay with gt25s? ya it pulls hard but ive seen 28s pull hard as fuck to lol

[crzygutrsnobrdr]

@zmadman210 gt25's???? those wont do shit for it...gt28 or gtfo

[zmadman210]

@crzygutrsnobrdr agreed. lmao

[crzygutrsnobrdr]

@zmadman210 gt25's couldent brethe up to redline....gt28's can! i wonder if anybody has done twin 30's

[zmadman210]

@crzygutrsnobrdr I know of one guy who is running a standalone with custom manifolds and running twin 50 trims. his car is crazy fast. He has videos of him walking Gallardo's and Murciélago's

[crzygutrsnobrdr]

@zmadman210 yea a ton of people do twin 30's and make an ass load of hp for a 2.7 v6. I currently have a b5 s4 that's got a 3 liter stroker and runnin twin gt2871rs's,meth with 100 oct, fully built engine aswell...got the car brand new and first thing i did was stage 2+ chip,downpipes,and 35lb injectors and i wanted more lol

[SickAudi]

@zmadman210 2871rs*!

[zmadman210]

brand new is the shit.

[mazda6tuner99]

he got nothing on that z

[niggatwista]

thank god for poor parents

[JLXPRO]

@niggatwista Lol. Very true.

[JonMartin84]

lol Nice runs I wann run a Turbo Z like that.

[mrhemp3985]

what do you have, a b6 s4 with a turbo? I wanna see that

[nabsnabs]

chat bullsit

[chupastupidcelica]

nice race!! I own an AudiRs4 My audi kills dem lil 2.7L s4 I know I would kill that 350z easy;) kewl video thow!!

[ConnorGorman]

How do you figure you would win when the z is pushing 120 more hp than an Rs4 and weighs less? hahaha Not only that but it doesnt have to push that power through all 4 wheels. I ADORE Rs4s but you would have to be mentally retarded to think an rs4 would beat this car at any type of roll.

[mrhemp3985]

agreed that, thats like comparing boxster to a 911 TT. RS4 would get eaten by this Z if its running 11's. what a dumbass

[gloomn8]

Stock B7 RS4 does 13.0 second flat quarter mile times. If this 350z is doing 11.6 .... answer is obvious. However, a b5 Rs4 with proper tune does high 10's low 11's in the quarter. Props to that Z....well done tune.

[olegdcru]

prove it , show youre 1/4 run then i will belive you .....

[killer8424]

Dude, that lil s4 would smoke your ass.

[ZeerXX]

I don't understand how someone with your spelling abilities can afford an RS4. If you do, you're either a drug dealer, or a 16 year old with rich parents. And the Z would destroy a rs4 das auto bs.

[peculiarself]

LOL as this kid is dumb, i wish i had that car LOL fucking kids with rich parents.

[SickAudi]

thank god for rich parents. my s4 took 2 years to build

[rjmkv]

ur dumb!

[fsu16a]

ok you take your z and ill take my MTM RS4. Then tell me who wins.

[3SP0FF]

MTM is WAY over priced... Much like Dahlbäck... I'd much rather go the disco potato route than do MTM. Even w/ all the supporting Mods such as head work, built internals, fueling, diffs, clutch, trans, possible bore, you'd have a 700 hp + car for the price of a 460hp MTM... I wish MTM would be reasonable with their parts... Don't get me wrong, it is quality shit, but there is bigger and badder shit for that kind of money...

[tike0rz]

I own a Stage 3 S4 and god damn, that Z is fast. Nice runs. Keep it friendly.

[Stimo3]

And BTW that S4 was making ~500whp, it was full interior, full weight, and believe what you want but ive been in both cars numerous times and that 350z is ALOT faster than the video makes it look, the s4 was brakeboosting and the z was just rolling into the throttle

[eeeen321]

its kinda obvious there are no drag related mods done to this Z....

the twinturbo setup is no small mod by any means, but you have to be a biased idiot to think there are purpose built drag mods to this Z for getting outta the hole.

sick cars, too bad the videos attract such a wide variety of douche-bags poorly regurgitating BS statements they read.

[Stimo3]

well put. And yes it was the APS TT setup running 103 unleaded..

[Stimo3]

Im the one who made this video, both are my buddies cars and both are long gone, but the 350Z only ran an 11.6 because that was the first time with it at the track, and no its a complete street car with coilovers, DFINATELY not a drag setup. S4 ran a best of 12.2 @ 117 i believe, also first time at the track.. Z could have easily gone 10's and s4 mid 11's.. Z was built to be a kickass weekend car.

[tike0rz]

what did they both move on to?

[fofffs]

so the Z runs what a 3.5L v6 right? so whats the set up on it in this video ? twin turbos? or what?

[SickAudi]

oh ya. from a dig the s4 would win

[SickAudi]

wow 11.6 is kinda bad for a 540 hp 350 z no offense it looks nice tho. if the s4 had 540 hp the s4 would b out

[YouAreAFuckinFaggot]

11.6 bad for a 540whp Z!?!?!?!? You're an idiot

[eeeen321]

damn 11.6  thats like the quickest 350z ive seen

[YouAreAFuckinFaggot]

Injected Performance built a 350Z that ran an 8.8! They have a video of the 8.8 run here on youtube.

[eeeen321]

yea saw that, fast as shit, but its FULLY built, that should be running 7's with 1100rwhp on drag slicks

[YouAreAFuckinFaggot]

That 350Z was featured in Import Tuner Magazine and it is 100% street legal! Besides, none of that matters because you said that the Z in this video was the quickest Z you've seen - and I said it's not.

[eeeen321]

It IS the quickest non-dragcar 350Z I have seen.....

So what are you getting at? You think you know what Ive seen better than me?

And your "100%" street legal phrase doesn't pertain to the set up producing the 8.8.

[YouAreAFuckinFaggot]

"non-dragcar" - how the fuck do you know that this 350Z isn't set-up for drag racing? Granted his time isn't anything special for a car that's modified specifically for drag racing. But you don't know the owner so you don't know what his intentions were for this Z. My comment regarding the other Z being street legal was intended to give even further credit to Injected Performance. Generally speaking, when cars run times that low they're not street legal anymore.

[eeeen321]

lol....wow...yea real tough to tell there is a lot of differences..

because i can see the tires on both?

because one has no chassis work and the other has alot?

because one has no tubing and the other does?

the wheels they are running?

and because one is a shop owned, purpose built drag car and the other looks like a powerful privately owned show/street car?

its very easy to see there are many MASSIVE differences between the two 350's.

you said "100% street legal"... yea the silver 350

[YouAreAFuckinFaggot]

Injected Performance's 350Z is 100% street legal you retard! That is the green one that ran an 8.8. Just thought I'd let you know because your mind obviously lacks intelligence!

[pancho101101]

Even though the Z won, I still would like the S4 more.

[nikedunks7]

@pancho101101

like sedans better?

[samdafreak1234]

do it from a dig :p

[adubyad]

hahaha no fair haha, ive seen k04 break into high tens, in quarter, would smoke that m3.

[GERMANPOWER90]

very fair !!!! :D MY friend has a K04 car, 10.8s all day (no meth, no nitrous, on 93 oct), lol. Hes got 24k in it including the car. And itd a DD with 130k. S4 FTW!!!

[tylerxfire]

and that is how a z should run