A Counter Guardian is someone who made a pact with the world to become a Heroic Spirit. People who became Heroic Spirits due to their legends alone are not Counter Guardians. So Gilgamesh wouldn't be one, but Archer would.
Cain/Adel complex on the Brunestud family...anyway Altrouge opened the gate to millenium castle..everybody praised and feared her..Arc appears not too long after and Altrouge is left into the shadows
Only having her good old companion and best friend Primate Murder to console her
The knights see how great Altrouge is and decided for her to be their queen BLackmore is loyal to her because of she being the daughter of 4th Crimson..and she disliked Solomon nuff said
i thought it was arcueid first then altrouge. didn't arcueid get some help from zelretch to make it possible to even summon the castle? i remember reading something about that somewhere
@OmegaChosen0 Arturia is still a Servant, even though her holy-grail stipulation lets her keep her memory.
Counter Guardian-Emiya (not Servant Emiya) has all his stats maxed out and a direct link to the world. The only Servant on a counter guardian's level is Gilgamesh, and just because of his offensive power.
primate murder is stronger than the crimson moon in terms of killing humans because that is his purpose in life. other than that the crimson moon is stronger than primate murder and can kill it easily since it's not human.
ah cool. hope that tsukihime 2 will bring out altrouge and her group, and add more story to arcueid's route..lol, seriously, where is my tsukihime remake!? :D
Altrouge defeated Arc in a duel but apparently lost to Roa for some dumbass reason that I can't remembe and Primate Murder,the white knight and the black knight are her direct vassals..but they are also Apostles so if a all-out war was to break out...Altrouge's side would win
altrouge lost to roa for 2 reasons. first he was at his most powerful incarnation and second he probably had some plans to counter a true ancestor's power in case arcueid came for him
Because they have the Beast of Gaia maybe. I'm not sure if Altrogue herself is Over Powered. Between her and Arcueid I would think that Altrogue would pull out all the stops and release all of her magical power.
Also. losing to Roa who was both at the highest potential of strength with the Marble Phantasm isn't something to be ashamed of. I mean he sucks in Tsukihime because he took over SHIKI's body. and we all know that SHIKI sucks bawls.
Arc is only HAX when she's in princess state, similar to how Ryougi is HAX when she's in Akasha state.
Otherwise, Arcs powers are limited to occurrences on earth. If ORT sets up crystal valley, Arc can't use Marble Phantasm, which ironically is the only thing she can really do to destroy ORT.
Brunestud is the strongest off TYPE-MOON and Arc is the next Crimson Moon so yeah their kid would be pretty strong well at least stronger than Shirou´s
and ShirouxSakura=guy who creates weapons out of massive epic destructions+Overpowered Yandere=their child will be the CUTTEST APPOCALYPSE EVER! worth of touhou
A Anti-Hero Shirou would be awesome and perhaps A Nanaya-ish personality being the main one would be badass as well..but it would take the good old charm of them
WEll Arc stays with Shiki..what about Saber..I mean it is kinda a pointless love..she will go back to her time and die to never go back and their offspring wouldn´t be so awesome as a ShikixArcueid..Good Crimson Moon+Nanaya Blood...Fate guys are so fucked
Best song ever !
MsElvenKing 2 months ago
WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERY BGM HAVE A GOD DAMN DEBATE?!
TheRunedExperience 1 year ago 17
@TheRunedExperience It's just the hardcore fans trying to prove points lol
NightxofxDarkrai 11 months ago
@TheRunedExperience Because we don't see tentacle porn.
Makuru 11 months ago
@TheRunedExperience because everything related to the nasuverse ever has to have a powerlevel/Sakura debate
ComradeMagnum 10 months ago
@TheRunedExperience
Welcome the the Type Moon fanbase.
DragonFoce140 7 months ago
@TheRunedExperience Because people like to argue on youtube.
ChaosLamorak 5 months ago
@TheRunedExperience Because its a Nasuverse game. everything has to be a god damn debate. like it or not
donkeykong75m 2 weeks ago
...you didnt get the joke right?
Nasuversepro 2 years ago
about Tsukihime 2: ask me, i now almost 99% of it. *spoilers*
Sabe is NOT a CF, So far...only Emiya and Joan of Arc have been known to be CF among Heroic Spirits.
ORT>=PRIMALMURDER in physical strength
Nasuversepro 2 years ago
Next thing we see is ORT gaining humanoid shape and going into the Shiki harem
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
if a cat is fine too, an alien is ok
Nasuversepro 2 years ago
That cat is a succubus
So yeah..succubus has all sort of weird festishes
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
@OmegaChosen0 Don't jinx it! It could happen!
DXBoyzofHardy 5 months ago
@DXBoyzofHardy
Shiki-Huh Ort-san..what's going on
-CRYSTAL VALLEY-
Arcueid can't do shit against that cause Crystal Valley blocks Gaia Support
OmegaChosen0 4 months ago
@Nasuversepro ORT route
Hey Gaia
What
Bend Over I am taking the Plot from here
OmegaChosen0 4 months ago
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Nasuversepro 2 years ago
i dont really think gilgamesh is a counter guardian, it's more likely to be Emiya, hmm gotta go through the UBW route one more time to make sure :D
halibonga 2 years ago
yea emiya is the countergurdian , gilgamesh just has an insane attack pwr :O
xyym 2 years ago
A Counter Guardian is someone who made a pact with the world to become a Heroic Spirit. People who became Heroic Spirits due to their legends alone are not Counter Guardians. So Gilgamesh wouldn't be one, but Archer would.
poggg 2 years ago
Cain/Adel complex on the Brunestud family...anyway Altrouge opened the gate to millenium castle..everybody praised and feared her..Arc appears not too long after and Altrouge is left into the shadows
Only having her good old companion and best friend Primate Murder to console her
The knights see how great Altrouge is and decided for her to be their queen BLackmore is loyal to her because of she being the daughter of 4th Crimson..and she disliked Solomon nuff said
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
i thought it was arcueid first then altrouge. didn't arcueid get some help from zelretch to make it possible to even summon the castle? i remember reading something about that somewhere
blazingshadow 2 years ago
altrouge's group is freaking scary man...i mean..just primate murder is already stronger than the original crimson moon himself
halibonga 2 years ago
Takes 7 Counter Guardians (7 sabers or Archers) to HOLD him down
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
i thought counter guardians are being that are higher ranked than servants?
halibonga 2 years ago
Archer(Emiya) and Saber(arthuria) are counter guardians
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
@OmegaChosen0 Arturia is still a Servant, even though her holy-grail stipulation lets her keep her memory.
Counter Guardian-Emiya (not Servant Emiya) has all his stats maxed out and a direct link to the world. The only Servant on a counter guardian's level is Gilgamesh, and just because of his offensive power.
blind51de 2 years ago
only archer is a counter guardian, all others are normal guardian
henryhenriquez 2 years ago
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Nasuversepro 2 years ago
primate murder is stronger than the crimson moon in terms of killing humans because that is his purpose in life. other than that the crimson moon is stronger than primate murder and can kill it easily since it's not human.
blazingshadow 2 years ago
ah cool. hope that tsukihime 2 will bring out altrouge and her group, and add more story to arcueid's route..lol, seriously, where is my tsukihime remake!? :D
halibonga 2 years ago
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Nasuversepro 2 years ago
Altrouge defeated Arc in a duel but apparently lost to Roa for some dumbass reason that I can't remembe and Primate Murder,the white knight and the black knight are her direct vassals..but they are also Apostles so if a all-out war was to break out...Altrouge's side would win
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
altrouge lost to roa for 2 reasons. first he was at his most powerful incarnation and second he probably had some plans to counter a true ancestor's power in case arcueid came for him
blazingshadow 2 years ago
Because they have the Beast of Gaia maybe. I'm not sure if Altrogue herself is Over Powered. Between her and Arcueid I would think that Altrogue would pull out all the stops and release all of her magical power.
Also. losing to Roa who was both at the highest potential of strength with the Marble Phantasm isn't something to be ashamed of. I mean he sucks in Tsukihime because he took over SHIKI's body. and we all know that SHIKI sucks bawls.
Shinokyouku 2 years ago 11
ORT doesn´t even do anything?
I mean he just sleeps all day long....and it blowed the old 5 loike it was nothing and we all saw how HAX Arc can be
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
There's also Ado Edem, and Altrouge Brunestud. Though I forgot the story behind Altrouge but I do know she's the reason Arcueid's hair got short.
BradleyMcCloud 2 years ago
ORT doesn't have a concept of death.
Arc is only HAX when she's in princess state, similar to how Ryougi is HAX when she's in Akasha state.
Otherwise, Arcs powers are limited to occurrences on earth. If ORT sets up crystal valley, Arc can't use Marble Phantasm, which ironically is the only thing she can really do to destroy ORT.
Shinokyouku 2 years ago
Brunestud is the strongest off TYPE-MOON and Arc is the next Crimson Moon so yeah their kid would be pretty strong well at least stronger than Shirou´s
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
I though ORT was stronger though technically it's Type-Mercury so meh.
BradleyMcCloud 2 years ago
ORT is obviously stronger than arcueid since she is merely a weaker copy of TYPE Moon which is also weaker then ORT
blazingshadow 2 years ago
I mean actual Shirou..
and ShirouxSakura=guy who creates weapons out of massive epic destructions+Overpowered Yandere=their child will be the CUTTEST APPOCALYPSE EVER! worth of touhou
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago 2
Shiki is more awesome cause of one heck of a badass phrase
I will show how to really kill someone...
or something like that...
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
"I'll show you what it means to kill things."
ArkRiley 2 years ago
A Anti-Hero Shirou would be awesome and perhaps A Nanaya-ish personality being the main one would be badass as well..but it would take the good old charm of them
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
An Anti=Hero Shirou?
umm... That's Archer =w=/
Shinokyouku 2 years ago
WEll Arc stays with Shiki..what about Saber..I mean it is kinda a pointless love..she will go back to her time and die to never go back and their offspring wouldn´t be so awesome as a ShikixArcueid..Good Crimson Moon+Nanaya Blood...Fate guys are so fucked
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
Good Ending of UBW
Shinokyouku 2 years ago
Wait Sorry...
Good Crimson+Nanaya?
Well UBW Shirou and Zelrich Dagger Rin
Shinokyouku 2 years ago
Yeah sad cause Shiki is WAY more awesome than Shirou
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago 2
I agree! XD
dragonknight99 2 years ago
wait a second shirou has potential to be majour kick ass in the imminent future
lordvenin 2 years ago 2
kinda sad shiki doesn't have his own theme like shirou
bongkawil 3 years ago
well, his BGM is "Wonderful Boy", but Werk don't put it in the game, kinda sad really
Ezekratos 3 years ago