Benjy's the Dog that Victoria Stillwell Killed... by Phone.

[CornersFive]

@alanasmummy: First, I would never put say a pit bull or a rotweiler was evil. They are not. Second, I would be deeply upset if my child was attacked. But the vulnerable mother here trusted the unqualified Stillwell. The dog should have been boarded til the best dog rehabilitator available--not a trainer--was found. After rehabilitation, the dog would be rehomed. Trusting a trainer or vet in this situation is like letting the family doctor do a surgeon's work. (Vets are not behaviorists.)

[alanasmummy]

For all those of you who think it was cruel, how would you feel if it was your child it attacked? I know if a dog did this to mine then i would want it PTS so it could never happen again. Once a dog bites it will do it again. If it was a rottweiler or a pit bull would you all be saying aww poor dog shes evil? Just cos its a cute cocker doesnt mean its any less dangerous. I am a complete dog lover but sometimes the best thing for dog and family is for it to be PTS

[marcostott]

@alanasmummy ''once a dog bites it will do it again'' .....not if its told not to ! so if your kid punches another kid, does that mean it will punch ppl for the rest of its life? not if humans are willing to take the proper measure and help

A human could step on a cocker and hurt it, you cant do that to a pitbull or rott, so yes its less dangerous becuz its a lot smaller

if your a dog lover then i would urge u to use more common sense :)

the world lacks common sense, trust me

[Evalynn3f]

Type "cocker rage" into a search engine. Poor breeding has made this dog one of the most dangerous around because of it's unpredictable aggression due to neurological problems. I took this story a lot more seriously 'til I found out it was about a cocker spaniel.

[marcostott]

@Evalynn3f it was not 100% confirmed that it had cocker rage...you here VS say : it sounds like it has some sort of neurological problem...wtf thats not clear. shes just trying cover up the mess she has to clean.

[nuram666]

lol....with all that she preaches about shock collars...and she says to kill the dog without a second thought? yep VERY positive trainer, you truly are concerned for the dogs well being, good job Victoria -sarcasm-

[TheAArmstrong]

will people stop crying about this dog, it was unstable and aggressive, attacked without being pushed to it, oh yea! and could of seriously mauled and disfigured a little girl. why wont people stop acting like 5 year olds (whinging over the doggy being put to sleep) and realise further training was just too big a risk. you wud be singing a very different tune if the dog killed the girl. and as for the trainer she is a professional and made a professionals decision

[marcostott]

@TheAArmstrong yeah further training was just too big a risk...sure, dont u think a more experienced trainer that actually deals with red zone wouldnt have made a difference? or at least re-homed. we're talking about a 25pound dog here, not a giant grizzly bear. god sakes, sad that todays ''professional'' are putting dogs to sleep ..but they're allowed to since they are educated and positive...professionals today are not using all the tools & being open minded in finding solution

[TheAArmstrong]

@marcostott er last time i checked m8 she was pretty high up in terms of the professionals. And a little dog like that can still do alot of damage, especially to a small child. And so fucking wot if they have the power to put dogs to sleep, They should have that power but she only advised it. Brilliant in my mind if they attack people, thats the key bit you seem to be forgetting. Wot if a dog like tht got loose and attacked u or ur family??? Stop crying and get over it.

[marcostott]

@TheAArmstrong right,I'm not the type that thinks a dog should be put down because it's a ''biter''.99% of the time, these dogs have not be provided with the right leadership from day one.You dont think its a shame that pros suggest putting an animal down that any reasonable adult owner could control this dog.If this dog was about to attack me or whomever I would be prepared because I wouldnt be freaking out or screaming, I would stay calm and come up with a way to create balance.

[TheAArmstrong]

@marcostott create balance?? shut up you daft cunt your not the dog whisperer, i would stay calm...wot even if it was biting you and going ballistic?? and it wasnt just a biter it mauled the girl, yes it is a shame the dog is put down but in the uk we dont have cesar millan (and yes i do kno he has rehabilitated dangerous dogs) I love dogs but i value the safety of children above a dog and i think the risk to rehome even with adults is unneccesary risk. wot if it escaped??

[marcostott]

@TheAArmstrong by create balance I mean try to create a scenario where no one gets hurt, use the environment to your advantage. you dont necessarily need cesar millan lol. you can make happen yourself if you're not afraid and confident. thing is I dont know if that dogs was truly ''VICIOUS'' I didnt watch the episode...although he seemed like a pretty normal dog from this vid. maybe the kid provoked the dog to attack.duno type of info VS gave to da family. wat if it escaped lol.

[TheAArmstrong]

@marcostott oh yer one more thing u mention rehomed?? wot...to another family with a small kid, just keep putting them back thru again and again until the dog really flips. And im pretty sure you answered your own question wen u referred to the "professionals" (why thts in brackets i dont know) as EDUCATED....bravo

[marcostott]

@TheAArmstrong Um no, most likely to family with adults and/or teens. Dogs can learn to sumbit to humans, only if the people are willing to learn and do the work. It's ignorant people like you that leave no hope for the animal because you think it can never change. If you know cesar millan, youd know that he never euthanized a dog, why? because he has HOPE for every dog. its the ppl with credentials that find excuses to euthanize dogs.

[4c00h]

Fuck this shit and fuck Victoria she's got no idea how to handle a dog, that dog was perfectly trainable it just needed to know it wasn't the leader in the house and none of this wouldn't have happened. What chance does a pit bull, rotty, bull terrier, dogo, etc have with this bitch if she can't even handle a medium energy level dog. Jesus.

[Arachnaphillic]

dogs are a blank slate and can be retrained by the right person, sorry but this I dont agree with and she cant be that great a trainer can she? Google dangerous dog rehabilitation and you will see LOADs of courses and training that can be done.

[racmhk]

These parents did what good parents should've done: put their kids first. While its sad this dog needed to be put down, and I really don't care very much for Victoria's show, hopefully the parents involved have learned something and will train and socialize their next puppy better.

[dalemk90]

Dog behaviorists medicate and kill dogs all the time as a tradeoff for the trash science agenda. They exploit learning theory and have no idea what dominance even represents.

[IckelLorns]

If Victoria and the vet thought it should be put down, then the dog should be put down! Caesar Milan, is a cruel, negative trainer, he would abuse the dog until it submitted and one day it would fly yet again at another human as it obviously has inherent aggression issues. Terribly sad for the family, but the description "the dog that V.S killed" is completely false!

[doejohndoe1234]

@IckelLorns You people probably feel the same about your children...don't discipline only congratulate...your dog and child will be the same unstable dumbasses who need their butts whooped.

[IckelLorns]

@doejohndoe1234 I'm afraid you're wrong - my child is an academic scholarship holder and has never needed any form of physical discipline, funnily enough there are other methods!

[4c00h]

@IckelLorns

Your ignorance makes me wanna rip whatever's left of that tiny ignorant brain of yours out and make you choke on it.

[IckelLorns]

@4c00h the aggression you show towards me for a simple comment on a video simply proves me right - there are people who want their dogs to please them and behave accordingly, and people who bully them into doing so...I know which category I belong in and I think it is plain for all to see which you do too....

[4c00h]

@IckelLorns

Life isn't all black or white buddy, there are many in-betweens. The day you learn that you'll discover many new things in life, until then keep on thinking people are either submissive to their dogs or dog abusers..

[IckelLorns]

@4c00h People who use positive methods to train their dogs aren't submissive nor are their dogs dominant. To put it another way, if someone asked you to do something, would you rather do it because you're frightened not to, or because there was a reward for doing so? I personally would never want my dogs to do something because they were frightened not to, when we're training & working they're so happy and alert, that, in my opinion is far kinder than any technique CM uses.

[4c00h]

@IckelLorns

If that's the way you understand CMs training methods then you're completely misunderstanding him. It's not a dictatorship, it's simply a 'hey buddy, I'm the boss here' from the start so the dog understands who to look up to. Just like with your kids, if you have any, you don't yell or abuse them every time you want something done, you set it out from the start you're the parent and they should listen to what you say because you have more experience and want the best for them.

[TheWiwiee]

I will never put down a dog no matter how much damage it's gonna get. I put my dog first if that means I gotta get away from my social life. I just cant.. well, see you guys in 8 years. that's what Imma say. :(

[TheDaisyHenryShow]

Victoria is a great trainer! but Benjy attacked somebody for no reason! They needed to be put down.

[msminnamouse]

Cesar Millan's harsh methods lead to many dogs becoming so aggressive that they have to be put down. This dog should not have been brought to a behaviorist because ANYONE can call them self that. This dog should have been brought to a VETERINARY behaviorist, who have to work with Cesar Millan fall outs every day.

[Laura21701]

I agree with her. Never rehome a dog that has bitten severely, ESP after extensive rehab. All you are doing is passing the problem on to someone else and just waiting for it to happen again. If a dog has bad nerves, it has bad nerves. There is no training that out of him, it can only be managed, and if management fails, PTS must be done.

[james1227]

Dog Murderers.The dog wanted to live. >:(

[Lauschy8]

People make animals like this, especially dogs aren't born violent and aggressive. Jesus..People are brutally murdered and tortured everyday by PEOPLE and they only get a jail sentance. Why should dogs lose their lives?. In dogstrust and other rescue centres you can SPONSOR dogs, these are dogs that cannot be rehomed for many reasons but their not put down. They live today in them. Some dogs can't be rehomed or put with children, maybe this was one. I think this dog's death was uncalled for.

[pressu1]

all i want to comment to here is, if animal bites or hurts people it should but down! when i was little kid we had a mix breed cat one day she attacked family member face witout any reason! she was putten down. also when i was around teen years friends dog who i was familiar with suddenly run towards me barking agressively bite my leg . dog was putten down too. iam sorry about ur dog but dont blame victoria.

[ewibts]

Cockers are the sweetest animals on planet, if they taken this cocker from so called breeder not a good known breeder then I can believe this negative behavior he got in his nature other then that is just wrong mindset of owner and not properly taken care of from the beginning... Just cannot look on this video...it's heart breaking....

[jeffpad520]

Stillwell's methods are flawed. That dog could have been saved!

[ChickBalboa]

There's no way to watch your dog 100% of the time. One day this dog would have gotten out, and it would have been another case of a small child being killed by a dog known to have already mauled a child. Would you rather this dog's whole breed be put on a "dangerous dog breed" list, or put down the one dog who's a major threat to his own family?

[DarkRosedStories]

There truly are some idiots in these comments. "I HATE VICTORIA! BITCH! SHE DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING!" - look, she didn't kill the dog. The vet even suggested first that it should be put down, she merely agreed and reluctantly as well, but agreed. The family didn't HAVE to listen to her. But they knew that their daughter came first, as did other children.

Don't ever underestimate a savage dog. It was sad and an awful thing to have to do, but it had to be done. Deal with it.

[Triththaus]

HOLY CRAP!!!!

[AlnNewt]

It was probably a puppy mill dog which are full of mental problems because of their breeding. Most of the dogs at pet stores are bred for looks without consideration for their health.

[giannakos15]

Victoria did well about benjy!My dog bit me about 3 times and he bit many other people!i didnt put up him but eerytime i do smth that he doesnt like it,im afraid about me!i cannot take his life but its my fault about his behavior,so was benjy.He was a great dog,but the family before them maybe was cruel..This video is just wrong.

[ElfDa]

there is a difference between biting and mauling; no amount of kicking would have fixed this.

Cocker rage is not "cureable" by any method.

[diyadad]

ok. This dog was in bad condition and the family becoming more strict gave an influence and it was very sad he had to. Victoria does not like doing this but it was for pure safety he could have killed the family's daughter.

[ncom06]

I adopted a dog who was re-homed to me after severely attacking a child. Thank god the owner didn't go the Bitchtoria Stillwell route and kill the dog; he's quite happily curled up here with me now. His previous owner loved the dog enough to find him a home (mine) that doesn't have kids and isn't going to take unnecessary risks with others' kids: problem solved without euthanasia.

[joelhuntergunMoney]

She came to that conclusion way too quickly.

[ksexybeast]

@joelhuntergunMoney if you watch the entire episode, you would have known that the dog had previously attacked the little girl 4 other times. And it was this time that it got bad, it bit her on her finger, her both her thighs and her chest. She was concern of the family's safety stating that if it has bitten before, it would bite again. Re-homing it would mean to redirect the danger to another family. Watch the entire episode. You came with that conclusion waaaay too quickly

[CharlieBeeLovesMuse]

I'm more angry at the fact that the child isn't getting sympathy. If that was my daughter, the dog would be gone.

[kejaan]

What the hell do vets know about behavioural issues..? Most vets know even less about behaviour than Stilwell does - and that's saying something.

Any proper, knowledgable and qualified behaviourist could have saved this dog. At the time this program was made VS was none of the above..

[gengarjetty]

00:35 an awesome opportunity to unintentionally flip us off missed :P

[BarfBoyink]

Victoria is a woman that has taken on multiple, large, aggressive dogs head on so that they are not put down. She tries her hardest to help dogs, and her last resort would be euthanization. In all honesty, I dont believe there was any hope for this dog.

[timHYPERLITE]

@BarfBoyink sorry but your wrong and shes a cunt! she couldnt even be bothered to see them to tell them to have him put down,what a lazy bitch. she hasnt taken on any aggressive dogs ever! all she does is redirect with treats or trys to minimise the situations where the dog can esculate bad behavior.

shes a show trainer plain and simple,she should have stuck to the showring and stop giving bad advise and getting dogs killed

[sexxiibabe100]

this dog shouldnt be put down, it should have been rehomed, this made me cry so much :'(

[Seldenta]

proof that any dog can turn on a human. Notice that dog is a cocker spaniel?

[dcooper111]

Continuation of previous post....know what they are doing and are basically saying I cant fix it so you should just kill it. HORRIBLE

[dcooper111]

Victoria Stillwell is a joke! All of you that think Ceaser Milan is so terrible but at least he saves dogs lives. It should have just been placed in a home where it wouldnt be around children! And Ceasar could have rehabilitated it. I hate these trainers that think correctional method trainers are so horrible yet they would rather just play god and put the dog down rather than trying to work with it. Any trainer that recommends you put a dog down unless it has SEVERE aggression issues does not..

[delindamck]

Victoria didn't put the dog down - the vet suggested that the family put the dog down, Victoria only agreed. The people saying Victoria killed this dog need to find other things to focus on. It's ridiculous and false to make these accusations. Get over yourselves and research this story instead of making these half-assed accusations. Sheesh.

[pulujohanna91]

saatanan

 idiots..

[nwzcs]

cesar millan would have solved this...bad choice by the family!

[Purrpussful]

Victoria Stillwell did NOT kill this dog; I'm disgusted by the video's grossly misleading title. In all likelihood, a greedy breeder who was more concerned with looks than temperament used a dog or dogs with a well-documented disorder affecting cocker spaniels known as "Cocker Rage". A dog with this disorder does EXACTLY what this dog did: attack viciously without provocation. THERE IS NO CURE, EITHER MEDICAL OR BEHAVIORAL, FOR SUCH DOGS; EUTHANASIA IS THE ONLY HUMANE OPTION.

[fanofpets]

That dog can hurt the new owner if they give him away.

[fanofpets]

She did not kill the dog. The dog had to be put down for biting.

[KZoppa]

There are differences between Victoria's method of training and Cesar's method of training. While they both have various techniques that work, in the case of a dog who has mauled someone, especially a child, i'm sorry but I would put the dog down as well. There is only so much you can do and if there truly was something going on in that dogs head that was just off, it was the safest and best thing to do anyway.

[Natheyja]

@ehopkins1987 Ever seen the after math of Cesars training? Do you think ''primal methods'' will be good in the long run? By his training methods you only get a submissive, insecure dog that is more scared and will more likely become aggressive later on, when it has had enough. I rather have a companion-based relationship with a dog than a ''I say and you ****ing do or else.. !!!

[Natheyja]

Yeah, Cesar Millan would definitely have solved this. He's a very well educated dog trainer after all with his up-to-date training methods, and surely he knows better than any other trainer, or even a vet that has actually spent years studying for the job. I mean Cesar inherited all his information after all so he must be like a superman. His GREAT handing of dogs surely would have saved this poor dog, he could probably even cure his possible neurological condition .... I mean... seriously.

[P90Xfrenchi]

@Natheyja Up to date? Did you know that the whole pack theory is false? That theory came out in the 1940's with wolves taken from various zoos and put in an unnatural environment. The researcher who came our with this theory even took it back and admitted he was wrong! I highly suggest you research this for yourself.

[Natheyja]

@P90Xfrenchi up to date? Sarcasm is a completely new thing for you isn't it?

[P90Xfrenchi]

@Natheyja LOL ok sorry, i get your point. I've just been so upset about people with their e-collars and negative training thinking that positive training is nothing but a bribe. My apologies :)

[Natheyja]

@P90Xfrenchi I can imagine. ;) Yeah, I've seen quite a lot of it lately too, I just feel bad for the dogs whose owners are like that. I'm actually right now watching ''It's me or the dog'' And I think her training is the way to do it, and I will apply the same training methods once I will get my own dog.

And dw, about it, it's often hard to see written sarcasm anyway. :)

[Fleefles]

The family's vet recommended before they even went on the show to put the dog down. It had been checked over to rule out medical problems. It bit unprovoked even after the training on the show. They called Victoria again and she gave her honest opinion on the matter. I can't believe how many crazies think people should keep aggressive dogs that bite unprovoked around children.

[1mayleen]

ITS AWFUL TO HEAR OF PEOPLE KILLING DOGS FOR THEIR LACK OF RESPONSABILITY. THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY DOGS AT ALL. POOR BENJY.

[AK22PSY]

heart breaking, but the little girl comes first so they absolutely did the right thing

[lenelle57]

This is so sad. Benjy was a lot like my greyhound who does have a neurological problem that we have under control by the use of Prozac and a D.A.P. collar. This is a collar that emits the same pheromones that a mother dog emits. It keeps him calm and we have had no more attacks in two years. D.A.P. collars are available on the internet. Be sure to use this brand as others we tried were not the same.

[EpiclyAwsomeDude]

Murderers

[Anime210Freak]

I disagree with the top comments. If a dog is mentally damaged to the point where he is biting for no reason, then it's best to put the dog down. The dog is suffering as well as the owners. A dog can't have a life if he will bite. Also, if Victoria couldn't fix the problem then there is no way Cesar could.

[magicalcrazyness]

@Anime210Freak Agreed. Sometimes euthanasia is the kindest option to the dog.

[MrTerrapinboy]

@Anime210Freak victoria uses things that i use to teach my daughter like time out ?

wtf dogs arnt kids

[MrTerrapinboy]

@Anime210Freak victoria uses things that i use to teach my daughter like time out ?

wtf dogs arnt kids

[Anime210Freak]

@MrTerrapinboy

Animals are like your kids.

[MrTerrapinboy]

@Anime210Freak

no animals are animals

they should be treated like guess what ANIMALS !!!!!

yes i love my dogs and they sleep in my bed with me and my girlfreind but they are DOGS

[Anime210Freak]

@MrTerrapinboy

People who have animals and have the nerve to say they are not family, just animals, make me sick. I won't waste my time trying to talk sense into someone who is already far gone

[MrTerrapinboy]

@Anime210Freak i didnt say they wernt family but they are still ANIMALS

they deserve the respect and love i give them as animals why would they want to be treated like people when the can have a great life as dogs.

i bet people that treat their dogs like kids dont let them go out and kill rabbits and rip them up get covered in mud and blood and have a good time do they ?

[MrTerrapinboy]

@Anime210Freak my dogs like being dogs, they play in the mud, kill and rip rabbits to shreds, swim in muddy rivers everyday, role in fox s**t and have a good time,

hoe many dogs that are treated like people get to do that exactly ?

and guess what they do after they get home, they spend 5 hours curled up on the sofa with my gf and then go to bed with us

[Anime210Freak]

@MrTerrapinboy

If they rip up rabbits they sound like hunting dogs. You didn't get a word of me didn't you???? I meant dogs are not things you just treat like nic nacs or something. They are living breathing creatures with feelings. They ARE like your children in a way they are like family. If you consider them just dogs then they are not family to you. Just pets.

[MrTerrapinboy]

@Anime210Freak so you dont think they deserve the respect they get as dogs, they are a member of my family but arnt as important as my child

[Anime210Freak]

@MrTerrapinboy

I'm done. I rest my case since you are not worth it and annoying after a while. This argument is pointless. Please don't message me again

[Kzinix]

@Anime210Freak Every decent pet owner cares deeply for his/her animals and yes, pets are an important part of the family - but you're not supposed to choose the side of your dog if it threatens the safety of your own kids, for instance. If you are a parent, you are responsible for your children's well-being. No offence, I just wanted to point that out.

[CKBerman]

I absolutely agree with Victoria. The dog had to be put down. There are so many good dogs being put down every day who'd NEVER bite a child. Also, a neurological problem would not be found in an autopsy. My fiance and I have a dog with some issues and we've already discussed that if he bites somebody unprovoked he, too, will be put down.

[biziwlkngdogs]

i'm sorry, but you're wrong. it looked like a spaniel, or close enough to one that a rescue group that specializes in behavior challenged dogs could take him in. more and more i disagree with V.S., none of her cases rival cesar millan's on a normal day. however, i cannot blame the family for killing the dog if they do not know how to handle the problem. That dog could not live with that family the way it was, and, with no other options they knew about,  they did the responsible thing.

[biziwlkngdogs]

im sorry but you're wrong. there are rescue groups that specialize in dogs with behavior problems. more and more i disagree with V.S. her worst cases don't rival cesar millan's on a normal day, and if he can't help the dog stay with the family, he takes it in. rehabilitating and training dogs is a lifestyle, like sports or martial arts, it takes time, energy, and training. i can't blame the family, without any other options they knew of, they did the responsible thing.

[007bondspy]

@CKBerman DOGS ARE SOO CHEAP TO BUY THESE DAYS I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY WHEN ONE BITES THERE IS SUCH AN ISSUE WITH TAKING IT TO THE VET AND HAVING IT DESTROYED.

[msminnamouse]

@CKBerman To say that any dog who would bite a child should be put down adds fuel to the fire that the Millan followers are stoking when they say that Millan is the only trainer who gives "red zone" dogs a chance and doesn't euthanize them, which is hardly true but what they believe and keep saying.

[dalemk90]

@msminnamouse There is a reason why the food trainers and exploiters are attempting to keep everyone out of the back lot. They are absolutely lying and deceiving the public.

[doejohndoe1234]

@CKBerman Then your a lazy ass owner who shouldn't have a dog.

[TheNinjaNARWALS]

most trainers would have told the owners to put him down a long time ago but she gave him a chance. and it wasn't "just a little nip" the dog attacked the CHILD 4 no reason it was the owners' falt 4 not getting a trainer earler. plus when people get dogs that need 2 be rehomed the 1st thing they whant 2 know is has it bitten/attacked any1. People should have to get licenses to own dogs. plus all she did was give her opinon she didn't say anythink like "put it down it shouldn't live"

[leapinglabs]

This is just another example of people not giving any thought to the breeds characteristics and then failing to properly socialize and train. Victoria was only trying to clean up the mess that family made out of a beautiful dog. The family is to blame, not Victoria. People should have to get licenses to own dogs, not the other way around!

[DreamComeTrueK9]

victoria really has to stop thinking shes the almighty and not be afraid to seek advice and help. she made these decisions based on the fact that she wasnt getting or seeing results and in her mind if she cant then no1 cant. Thats her mistake. I no plenty of ppl that would have most likely been a fit for this dog and this case. Wrong trainer, and even worse advice

[DreamComeTrueK9]

im still amazed that this was her answer for this. especially being in the public eye. Ive done research on this dog n case, as well as watch the full episode, and in my opinion the dog didnt have a neuro disorder at all...she just assumed bc she wasnt getting results. I believe that her approach was the wrong 1 4 this case. At the very least, perhaps the family was incapable of maintaining the rehab structure needed, but that doesnt mean another owner couldnt..its sad.

[micheri08]

STUPID BITCH!!!!!!!!!! DUE TO SHITS LIKE THIS, CESAR MILLAN ALWAYS WILL BE THE BEST...... VICTORIA DOESN'T EXIST .. POOR DOG AND STUPID BITCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[dontpugme]

Victoria has already addressed this. All the facts were not shown in the clip. The mother had been attacked along with two of the kids. The family's vet had suspected a neurological disorder and recommended that the dog be pts for the safety of the family, but also the safety of the public. If that dog had escaped from the home, it could have easily attacked a stranger. Victoria made a statement about this episode YEARS ago on her website.

[grygon]

Why did the family get tougher on the dog? Why did they not use POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT which is what Victoria teaches? Victoria did not fail this dog, the family did.  Who else thinks the little girl, such an "angel" she is, most likely was teasing or provoking the dog?

[BlackMist301]

I have to agree with Victoria on this, the dog ATTACKED a kid for no reason, and notice it says the family got tougher on the dog after Victoria left. Wonder if that had anything to do with it? Probably!

[proudirishbeauty]

like in our case meant to add to that my dad was gutted & full of guilt when he heard that poor boy got bitten.so sometimes you just dont know whats for the best.

[proudirishbeauty]

We had a dog who bit my aunt, so my dad got him re-homed & unfortunately he struck again, this time with a little boy lucky he was ok, but his arm was badly bitten. the dog was put down needless to say. v.sad story above can relate to the sadness the guy must be feeling but you got to think could u live with yourself if you got the dog rehomed and he really badly bit someones else child or even an adult and done unbelievable damage.

[TekkamanAngel]

The dog attacked a child for god sake what if it was baby it attacked or even worse killed for no reason, they had to put him down for safety

[phabbiola]

what a stupid, bloody bitch! I hate you Victoria! What a waste of family! Now I am 100% Cesar, I always was and I always will but now I am just beyond sure!

[torment2romance]

The person who posted this and all you people who say Cesar Millan could have fixed this are fucking idiots. The dog MAULED a child, and there was no trigger, it just went for the kid. Anyone who thinks that the dog wouldn't have been put down elsewhere is a total moron. No rescue would take on this dog, and let me ask you, would you want a pet that had bitten and mauled someone else? The episode was heart breaking but it was the right decision to make.

[phabbiola]

@torment2romance who says there was no trigger? The tv? The child? The mother? No expert was around to say if there was really NO TRIGGER. You should be put down because people like you do not deserve to be alive. You wanna know who would want to have a dog like that? I would!!! and a lot of people out there would!!

MORON! That family can kiss my ass and everybodys ass, they did not fight for the dog, they did not look for the right help!

[pbpatbb]

Ceasar Millan could have helped that dog.

Probably would have him removed from the family to live with his pack for a while, then adopted by another family perhaps since it would have been difficult for this family to let go of their fear and apprehensions and feed the dog calm and positive energy.

This woman is a whore. She doesn't understand what she is dealing with.

[JoCoMoreno]

F'ing ridiculous. VS is not a dog trainer. Shes a dog feeder. This is simply a case of VS not being able to admit that she was in over her head. No animal on this planet learns solely by R+. This is her fault. No dog, not a single dog is beyond rehab. Its simply more convenient to say the dog needs to die rather than admit she doesnt have the skill set to deal with a dog like that.

[meberic]

Thumbs up if you think Cesar Millan would have solved this in 5 minutes.

[littlemaxyne]

@meberic

Cesar Millan is an Idiot!

[ksexybeast]

@meberic Victoria's methods are doable by owners.how many time have you seen "do not try this at home" on the dog whisperer show.She uses positive reinforcement to turn dogs around by rewarding good behaviour, where as milan pokes,kick,cut out air supplies to control them.Her methods also improve interactions between dog and owner.

honestly, which do you prefer. An obedient dog who loves or an obedient dog who fears. Watch the whole episode before you judge, you're just quoting out of context

[candyxx2810]

that has nothing to do with victoria so dont blame it on her

[candyxx2810]

also its for the familys own safty

[GlitzgurlKendra]

first of all Victoria didnt kill it retard

[ped200014]

cesar millan is a plague

[braeraphael]

first of all, cesar millan has never dealt with a serious biter. If anyone knows anything about bites, i would suggest you look at the bite scale invented by dr. ian dunbar. CM doesn't deal with red zone dogs either, it's just something he made up. This dog was now biting without cause, which is VERY VERY serious.

[braeraphael]

Had the dog the been rehomed it would never be able to go outside, and a couple could never have guest come over, or have anyone baby sit the dog because if a stranger were to come over, you have a law suit waiting to happen. So good bye social life.

[braeraphael]

Putting any animal to sleep is very serious. And to think that VS or the vet didn't think about the consequences of this dog's action is such irresponsibleness on someone who thinks that a dog who is biting and getting good at it an also doing it for out just cause should be rehomed is inhumane.

[braeraphael]

I also think that before you judge anyone having to put their dog to sleep you work in a shelter and see what happens there. CM doesn't put dogs down because he doesn't work with server aggression cases. Seriously, look up the bite scale, and you will see this dog was above a level 4 bite, which is VERY VERY serious, and most time often difficult to fix.

[braeraphael]

CM works with dogs who are maybe at level 3, which is trainable. This is the reality. Also, you weren't in the home everyday seeing and dealing what this family had to deal with. You just watched a tv show that probably was only 1/2 hour long. Can you seriously judge the dogs behavior in that short amount time? I doubt it.

[roxcharlie]

I remember this episode, what a bitch! it made me sick to see him arrive at the vet and the dog was all happy. stupid husband should of stood his ground and stupid moron wife, what a waste of space she was, more training was needed in this situation, not a 'quick fix.' The dog could of been rehomed to an older couple with no children. I have a dog that was given up because it nipped a kid and he is the best thing that has ever happened to us, we don't want kids so it is the perfect environment.

[jacqfly]

sometimes humane euthanasia is the only suitable course of action left. if a dog has practiced using its teeth to get what it wants, on people, esp on children, that dog can never be fully trusted again. it would take lifetime management and a very high probability that it WILL bite again. would you adopt a dog knowing it will bite you, your family or a friend? Would you rather see it locked away from people the rest of its life?

[Washugirle]

When a dog gets that aggressive and it doesn't seem that the family is going to put the time or the energy into assuring that the dog is watched and train constantly. Then regrettably the animal will need to be put down. Cesar actually trains alot dogs on site all the time. Victory actually has to train the family to take care of the dogs and well, that is also the Law. I'm so sorry that he had to be put down but the dog has become danger to the family and itself.

[DeNiZ61]

For 7 seasons, not once has Cesar Millan resorted to or needed to resort to murdering a dog.

[sunnysurfer18]

@FreThinkerCorinthian even the vet said so to have the dog put down its sad.... but there was no other way... :(

[sunnysurfer18]

i mean if a dog is dangerous and they tried many different trainers and they simply cant get him to stop he cant be rehomed ... what u want him to bite other people.....simply thats what would happen

[georgiabeastx]

that dog was a lost cause the dog should have been put own, victoria is the best dog trainer in the world. plus she was backed up by someone else. its a dog that was put down, autopsys find the cause of death which was being put down.

[roxcharlie]

@georgiabeastx it's 'autopsies' and someone should put you down, lost cause that you are

[mopaniworm]

Agreed. Basically she couldn't solve the problem herself so made the problem go away forever.

[roxcharlie]

@mopaniworm EXACTLY!!! someone with brains!