Kani basami

[algirdas181218]

How did i get here from PONIES!?

[ninjalla]

@algirdas181218 you're lucky. That's it

[antonyneal]

I really want to start judo, I have been doing Muay Thai for self defense and fitness. I think Judo would compliment it very well.

[ninjalla]

@antonyneal I agree. It's a good background.

[desfcon11]

@antonyneal This isn't Judo, really neighter in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu this move is aloud. It's a Ninjutsu technique.

[Schtrudel]

This technique has been prohibited since the 1980 All Japan Championship, when the great Yamashita had been his fibula broken while resisting Endo's attack (by Kani Basami).

Look for the video (I found it on dailymotion "video/x4yuhq_yasuhiro-yamashi­ta-jpn-sumio-endo-j_sport")

Disclaimer: You can even HEAR the bone breaking.

[ninjalla]

@Schtrudel thank you.

[CyBeRTRoNFLuX]

@Schtrudel ohh man! that was totaly nasty !!

[Icnon2]

Still exist some Judo competitions where techniques like this are alowed ?

[lallope]

Oh please post a warning that no one should attempt this without instruction and learning how to break fall! this is an extremely dangerous technique! this is one I personally would not post out of fear some numb nut would try it. I shall give this one point I learned in course of 40 years. pulling your opponent to inner leg one closest to the attack will make throw more fluid.

[ninjalla]

@lallope you are right. I added an online warning

[johnny102marvin]

@lallope Yes, you can blow out a knee to the opponent with this throw. Plus, if you do not put your free hand out as a base support when you come in the correct direction you can break your own wrist. This video demonstrates every aspect of this throw perfectly.

[lallope]

@johnny102marvin yes very true but there are variation where one can use their back but are norm one always must place hand down, not only the knee but person back break back,neck or acquire a broken hip with concussion also, this throw is right in there with Ashigarami, Daki Age, and Kawazu Gake, because of horrible injuries that they cause,,,,sticky mats also are a horrible problem for knees,,we need to protect our bodies to enjoy Judo

[johnny102marvin]

@lallope Speaking of mats. These mats like you say become very sticky. But, a lot of people do not realize that these mats collect a lot of bad bacteria. You can get a skin staph infection from these mats. These mats need to be cleaned and disinfected with some kind of chemical at least once a week.

[ninjalla]

@johnny102marvin True. these mats are the worst

[trollwarlord3]

THIS TECHNIQUE COSTS ME MY LEG!!! FUCK JUDO FOREVER!

[lallope]

@trollwarlord3 sorry about leg. may I ask how it occurred and who was instructor and was tori well taught. this technique is illegal in competition.

[electronikita]

That sort of sucked, I'm not saying I can do it much better but I've seen it done MUCH better

[newjudoka]

Its ok in randori , or self-defense

[TheRealityRocks]

@newjudoka but why is kani basami not okay in competition?

[poorashit]

@TheRealityRocks i "think" it can really mess the other persons leg up if you're strong enough. which is good just not in competition.

[Pathogen08]

I'm glad that my Senseis teach outside the narrow box into which the IJF confines the rest of the judo world.

[chillout010]

Cool technique. I believe this is what Ryo Chonan used to takedown and submit (with a heel hook) Anderson Silva in Pride FC.

[TheRealErevos]

it's illegal in official matches

[ninjalla]

True, but in our effort to document martial arts techniques in the akban-wiki we try to document even obsolete techniques

[FaintSigh]

@ninjalla Banned, not obsolete. There's nothing that really replaces it, and it is a feasible technique. Don't get me wrong, though, I'm glad you posted it.

[CaptainMorgan32]

@ninjalla Thank you for your efforts in documenting every Judo technique, not just the ones that are legal or most effective in competition!

Judo is a full featured martial art and I'm just getting into it now but the overemphasis on competition is really kind of sad. There is so much more to the art!

[masondarko]

do you know why?

[TheRealErevos]

@masondarko Very dangerous to break knees

[13Cam37]

@TheRealErevos

why is it illegal?

[TheRealErevos]

@13Cam37 it might break a leg instantly.It is forbidden

[lallope]

@TheRealErevos it can pop a knee 

[Talentwarriordance14]

@13Cam37 youtube wont lemme post the link to the video to show you whhy but it can break someones fibula

[hkdharmon]

@TheRealErevos However, the martial arts are more than just sports competition.

[TheRealErevos]

@hkdharmon i agree but it's prohibited as an official move a long time ago.

[eddie2593]

y is this illegal ???

[minutedude]

If you don't come in right, it is possible to tear the ACL or, if worse, break the leg. This is why kawazu gake is also illegal: it is really easy to break the leg, but its one of my favorite techniques in practice because it couples with uchi mata really well.

[eddie2593]

thx :D

you u no ur stuff m8 thx

[Capoeirista81]

because you have to throw yourself into the side of the persons body, and lots of people have had their MCLs (I think) destroyed by this move by people either doing it wrong, or throwing themselves into the side of the knee with too much force.

[TheInfinite91]

This technique attempted in competition was found to be extremely dangerous to the opponents neck, especially to those who were not used to that technique.

[jaraman9]

I think it was banned in 1980 after yasuhiro yamashita broke his leg being thrown with it.

[Grove2000]

@jaraman9 I thought it was far more recent than that...mid 90's perhaps?

[kytosex]

isso eh chamado no sambo de "tesoura"

[ninjalla]

Verdade, meu amigo

[crackfukker]

Beautiful move. Ballsy, but beautiful.

[Suitsuprst]

Simple and nice! Quite good Kani Basami representation...

[calibrevr]

esse golpe não é permitido em competições de judô, assim como o Kawazu-gake.

[RKLuffy88]

Yes, he's right. The reason why Kani-basami is banned in Judo tournaments is because at the 1980 All Japan Judo Championships, a judoka fractured his opponent's left leg with that move.

[droylock]

thats illegal in tournaments now isnt it??

[TheLatinoSamurai]

Yup in Judo . But other martial arts have it .

[MMMacho]

Just to be precise: The fact that is forbidden in competition doesn't mean that Judo doesn't have it.