I am scaried of nature in any time period. Dinasour days are freaky and big. Before sea monsters were the jelly fish and the algae that have venom, and modern day monsters like the Great White, Crocadile, and Orca scare the crap out of my ass. I am proud to be a part of nature especially if you think of it as a dinosaur being your brother from another mother and the orca is your good friend. I hope this makes sense, it's 5:00 in the morning; i haven't sleeped yet.
@EDROCKSWOO Orca are known to pray on sharks, as they are bigger than them. Sharks don't eat whales, they prefer smaller dolphins, which they can wrap their mouths around.
"orca is a type of killer whale." Nearly right. There is only one species, Orcinus orca, the Killer Whale. But there are three types in this one species, depending on where they live and what they hunt. Resident's, Transient's and Offshore's.
@goatboyful The scientists that were studying the LA pod since they appear on Farallons. They say it, because the LA pod have strategies to hunt both fish and mammals, depending on the circumstances, unlike other groups that are specialized in only one type of prey.
@gwen2110 These are not the only animals that have this kind of identification. When studying large groups, we use letters and numbers to identify each one. It would be a bit difficult to give a name to all of them.
@TheRicardobtc i understand that ive heard them call other animals numbers nd ish, but they also have a real name like after it or they say "otherwise known as..."
And there were not enough space for more in the last message:
According to fossile records, the "great" and "invencible" Megalodon, disapeared from the fossile records, a few years after orcas appear for the first time in the oceans. It can be a simple coincidence, but some paleontologists now think that groups of orcas lead megalodons to extinction, by hunting the same preys that megalodons hunted (Whales).
But others also think it extinguished because of the change of waters' temperature.
@fletchers4 For the record, i was'nt trying to sound clever, how clever do you have to be to open a book? And as for spelling mistakes, well that can happen to anyone....yes?
-The great-whites' max speed is about 40km/h and can only reach that speed in short bursts. Orcas can reach 55km/h and keep that speed for a long period
-The 2 attacks of orcas to great-whites were 1 on 1, and the orca won both without help of its pod
-Both shark and orca attack from below
-Great-whites succesfully kill prey in about 60% of its attacks. Orcas are succesfully about 90% of its attacks
-Despite of its size, great-whites never attack larger animals than himself
@TheRicardobtc "-Despite of its size, great-whites never attack animals larger than himself.." Can't agree with that. Since a big part of a sharks life is hunting the weak and old, not to mention anything dead, as in whales. I don't think you can state that last one categorically.
@TheRicardobtc -The 2 attacks of orcas to great-whites were 1 on 1, and the orca won both without help of its pod??
^That is just complete bullshit, sorry dude but there are no TRUE videos of a killer whale attacking and killing a fully grown great white.
You also say that Orcas are 90% succesfull in hunting to the sharks 60%...well that is to be expected considering that sharks are lonesome hunters and orcas hunt in HUGE pods as there is strengh in numbers.
@CheifSmokinDank So this video we are commenting is about what? An adult orca killing a baby great-white? Or is that a montage? In this case, both had the same size.
I don't know why some still say that orcas can't kill great-whites and that there are no proofs, when there are videos proving otherwise, and one of these videos is right above.
Not to mention a 45 minutes documentary, done by professionals, with two attacks, and explaining everything else about it.
@TheRicardobtc What im trying to tell you dude that there is no proof, its just aload of fake made up crap, the only way that orcas could actually kill a great white was if they had stengh in numbers like i stated in my previous post, so thats kinda like comparing this to a pride of lions to one lonesome leapord. The killer whale is only more dominent cuz it has a huge pod to defend it, 1 on 1 i think the shark would have the advantage :)
@CheifSmokinDank did you see the original home video from ALL the people who where whale watching that day when the orca carried the dead great white up to their boat in its mouth?
@CheifSmokinDank orca sneaks up on shark grabs it and flips it on its back (clever bastards orcas!) most sharks go catatonic when upside down (the orcas have worked this out) orca holds the shark still (easy enough because the shark wont struggle) shark drowns orca gets a nice meal
in short orcas are huge and have scary inteligence!
@eatthisvr6 "orca sneaks up on shark grabs it and flips it on its back (clever bastards orcas!) most sharks go catatonic when upside down (the orcas have worked this out) orca holds the shark still (easy enough because the shark wont struggle) shark drowns orca gets a nice meal
in short orcas are huge and have scary inteligence!" Couldn't have said it better.. thumbs up
@CheifSmokinDank So this video we are commenting is about what? An adult orca killing a baby great-white? In this case, both had the same size.
I don't know why some still say that orcas can't kill great-whites and that there are no proofs, when there are videos proving otherwise, and one of these videos is right above.
Not to mention a 45 minutes documentary, done by professionals, with two attacks, and explaining everything else about it.
Having said that imo if the two were to meet 1 on 1 i think the shark would win hands down as sharks can dive deeper than whales and the attack from below.
@Katazka Haha your talking complete nonsense, you obviously no nothing about sharks or whales, you just cant compare the two, killer whales hunt in pods, sometimes up to 150 in a pod, that gives the shark a slight unfair disadvantage if they were to meet, it would be like comparing a pride of lions to a lonesome gazelle. the killer whale may well be smarter but the great white is no pushover its a killing machine, it can move and monouver faster than the whale can and its got one hell of a bite.
@FEAROWNAGE Whales have been around for millions of years too. But being around for longer just makes you older. I mean for God's sake, sharks die if they dont keep swimming.
@FEAROWNAGE Whales have been around for at least 30 million years, you're takling crap. Een if Sharks have been around for longer, how does that prove that they're more succesful? Rodents have 'thrived' since the extinction of the Dinosaurs, does that make them more succesful than humans? No.
@fletchers4 What makes you say humans are more succesfull? we are poisoning ourselves to oblivion! when that happens, rodents will most likely survive and keep on going for another 100 million years, cheers
@enchilada01 Actually if all the humans died this moment, the rodents would have a field day for a while, but since they rely on us for just about everything, i think rodent numbers would drop significantly after that. If we're not alive to make the garbage and food which provides easy meals for them, they have to go back to foraging and that's a more risky prospect.
@goatboyful Uh, I doubt your theory would even make it a valid response. They survived millions of years before humans walked the earth and now you are saying they depend on us? I would say they have multiplied easier because of us but hardly depend on us,cheers!
"The Whale that ate Jaws" and "Jaws Slayer" is the same documentary with a diferent title. But even the full documentary at "letmewatchit", only shows 2 attacks from orcas to great-whites. The first attack, people had filmed the begining to the end. The second time, scientists only had time to film the shark already killed and orcas eating it.
Until someone has the good luck to be in right place and time, and with a camera, to film a third attack, the 45-minutes documentary is all we have.
@TheRicardobtc So the question becomes, why is the footage from the second event not as widely available? That i'd like to know, but who has the answer.
@goatboyful I don´t know, but maybe because, when scientists arrived to film the second attack, the action was almost over. It wouldn't deserve to be released like this one was.
The second attack was more interesting to scientists that wanted to know if the first attack was only an isolated event, or if it happens more than once. People who knew about the second attack were not so impressed as they were with the first one that was a novelty. People already knew that could happen again.
@TheRicardobtc "..inventing.." no i just thought you were mistaken. For the record, i was interested so i went looking. My security software warned me off 'letmewatchthis', the National Geographic website did'nt have "Predator CSI: Jaws Slayer" in its search files only the same "Whale that ate Jaws" one we've seen for years. On 'natgeotv.com' i found 52 seconds of Jaws Slayer....and all it showed was the same bloody footage as before. And the only video of GWS and Orcas in South Africa...
@goatboyful ..was here on YT, it's called "Great White Sharks and Killer Whales at False Bay". Basically it's someones home movies of cage diving with GWS, then a boat ride with Dolphins and then with a few juvenile female Orcas. So lets summarize, we have video footage of Orcas killing and consuming a GWS at the Farallons. It's 14 years old, but it's genuine. We have a witnessed predation of Orcas on GWS at the Farallons on Nov 19 2000, no footage. Plenty of footage from NZ of Orcas hunting...
@goatboyful ...common Stingray. Still photos and testimony from NatGeo of Orca killing Mako sharks, again in NZ. And i have seen footage on TV of Orcas hunting reef sharks in the Coral Sea and swimming along with the poor sharks sticking out of their mouths like toothpicks. And quite frankly i'd kill for that footage right now! So again, i did'nt think or say you were 'inventing', i'd love to find any other footage of Orcas and White sharks or any sharks for that matter. Until then...bye.
megladon was about 40ft and 10 tons. humans can't stand not being the top of the food chain, hence when a non-human animal attacks a human-animal it's soooo horrible. it hasn't been that long since we, the human, have been here. dino's where here for many millions of yrs. and at this rate humans, thankfully , won't be here to lond
Just an aside: I don't come here to write these things without knowing, and in fact, and contrary to what may be thinking, I even like more sharks than many other animals.
I watched the National Geographic's Doc about this event. I assure that there have been more attacks. However, what I also know, is that all arround the world, there is only 1 group of orcas that have learned how to hunt great-whites. No other group hunt great-whites. Also, all the sharks of false bay (where that orca killed the shark), have disappeared, after the second attack.
And about the argument of the years of evolution, humans live only 5 millions and dominates all other animals.
@TheRicardobtc "...false bay(where that orca killed the shark)..."? False Bay, near Capetown South Africa? If you're referring to this event of CA2 and Jerry Garcia( the GWS had a name as well), this occured in Maintop Bay of the Farallon Islands 27miles west of San Francisco California. Yes you are correct about the GWS leaving, though it occured after both attacks. The second being off Shubrick Point at the Farallons on Nov 19, 2000. Tracking tags on the sharks revealled when...
@goatboyful ..they left and where they went. Famously, it was a male GWS named Tipfin, that swam all the way back to Hawaii before he returned.And for the record, like you i like sharks over all other animals as well. Have a good one from Downunder.
This idea that an Orca can easily kill a Great White via "tonic immobility" is laughable.
As if a Great White (one who's fully aware of what's going on / not distracted by boats, etc.) is going to so easily just let itself be man-handled by a large dolphin. I swear the way some people comment you just can't help to think they know nothing a Great Whites and or they're so emotional about orcas they're blinded by reality.
NEGATIVE! Great Whites have been around way way before dinosaurs (60m yrs) and are amongst the first sharks to rome the oceans. So yes they've been around for 400+ millions years.
@mrcardio9r And we're back. Now i note for the public record, you wrote "....you need to get your facts straight.." And yet in none of your rants, do you ever quote any source materiel to back up your empty rhetoric( otherwise known as bullshit).Now there are two trains of thought as to the evolution of the "modern" GWS.Both are based on fossilised teeth. The first is that the GWS are evolved from the Mako family,Isurus. These extinct Mako sharks are noted for their narrow, smooth edged teeth...
@goatboyful ..which evolved during the Miocene period. These changed to a broad, serrated edged tooth by the start of the Pliocene period.This would cover a time frame about 16-4.5 million years ago. This is from "Origin of the Modern Great White Shark" by Stephen A. Alter.The fossil evidence from this theory shows that GWS started in Pacific Ocean and then spread to other areas. This theory is also supported by the 'Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology ', which in March 2009, concluded that GWS..
@goatboyful ..was evolved from extinct Mako and not C. Megalodon. This was primarily based on very well preserved fossil remains found in Peru.It had a jaw with 222 teeth and 45 vertebrae. Based on the shape and size of the teeth and growth rings in the vertebrae, the 4-5 million year old remains came from an early GWS of @17-18 feet in length and @20 years of age.Note that that's the early Pliocene period. Source was 'Bring me up the Enviroment' at "scrink.com." But, from "Elasmo research."..
@goatboyful ...that's "Elasmo research.com" comes this theory, again based on the teeth.The Charcaradon( that's rough tooth to you and me) lineage is older than the Isurus( Mako) line and starts about 60 million years ago, goes thru three smooth tooth species until Cosmpolitodus escheri, which lived 25-20 million years ago and gave rise to the modern GWS, which appeared @11 million years ago. Now i found all that in less than twenty minutes on google. Can you refute any of it? Do you..
@mrcardio9r and see my reply to TheRicardobtc about the only other known or recorded instance of Orca predation on Great White Sharks. Seriously, you need to smarten up.
And what about the fact that this attack of an orca to a great-white wasn't an isolated case?
Yes, when scientists discovered that an orca had attacked and eaten a great white, they began to investigate whether this had been just a single case or if the orcas actualy see sharks as another prey. So a few days later, they returned to the same place, and they found and filmed another orca, killing another shark, using exactly the same method as before: Put the shark in tonic immobility.
Just about anyone can run up to an unspecting person who's half their body weight and knock the shit out of them. Does that prove anything? Is it something to brag / get all excited about?
* Any living being (still getting used to typing with iPhone) For the spellcheckers there are other typos but I'm sure people can comprehend regardless.
Bite force ratings are pointless when talking about an animal such as the Great White.
As for how long GW's have been around yes it's over 400 M yrs. They amongst the first sharks to rome the oceans. They have been forged via millions of yrs of evolution to become the ultimate killing machines they are.
@mrcardio9r hello again, Mr White has only been around for 12-15 million years.they were not by any measure "..amongst the first sharks to rome the oceans."
A Great White most certainly can inflict massive damage to Orcas. Bite force ratings are all over the place for great whites (~700- 2500 lbs). Regardless you fooling yourself if Great Whites are going to bite down on a steal object wrapped in a layer of rubber. They aren't gong to risk breaking their teeth biting down on a steal plate with as much force possible. The fact is that Great Whites can take chunks out of just about any living bring including whales / dolphins.
Ok, here is the problem for the great white: Unlike most people think, and according to scientists, a great white's bite is not much stronger than a human's bite. What causes the damage is the shape of the teeth. Orcas, just like any cetacean, have a thick layer of fat, protecting them from the cold and their vital organs. I think the thickness is about 10 cm. That means 10 cm that the shark's teeth must pass in order to hit a blood vessel and make the orca bleed. No shark can do it, even whites
No ones accurately measures the "intelligence" of any species. Also "brain size" hasn't been determined to be an accurate indicator of intelligence. The Great White doesn't particularly have a large brain but that doesn't mean it will somehow be at a disadvantage fighting / defending itself. Everything about the Great White is geared towards making it an awesome predator. To say an Orca always wins in an actual one on one battle every time because of this video is absurd.
Yeah I typed "Orca" as "Ocra" are you going to be okay? Did you really not know what I was referring to our are you just playing dumb because I'm making a valid argument against you precious Orca?
As stated rather it's millions or billions (earth is ~4.5 billion yrs) so yes it's 400+ M years which is A LOT longer than dolphins regardless.
People don't make a big deal over a 350lb guy beating up a 150lb guy.
Pound for pound say a 18ft Great White vs. 18ft Ocra of similiar weight I think the Great White would destroy an OCRA in an actual one on one battle. I'm not talking about a full grown OCRA catching a distracted sub-adult Great white off guard as shown in the video.
People like to say "but dolphins are so intelligent" And? Great Whites have 400+ billion yrs of evolution on their side and can fight damn well. Just because they don't play around with balls, etc doesn't make them dumb.
@mrcardio9r so your claim is the Orca (not ocra) can't use the element of surprise to the shark, can't be an adult killer whale...anything else?
For the record, fossils indicate the killer whale is 11 million years in evolution...the great white at 16 million. Linking it farther back hasn't yet been proven. :)
Jim, yes I made a TYPO on YouTube and it wont be my last so please forgive now and in the future sir.
With that said Dolphins (Orca's) haven't been around nearly as long as Sharks (Great Whites) and YES it has been proven. It hasn't been proven to the EXACT time / date / time but the general concenous is over 400 BILLION (That's "B" as in BILLION) years that sharks have been around.
Regardless bottom line is that the video proves NOTHING.
@mrcardio9r Since this ball of rock known as Planet Earth has actually only existed for around 4 billion years, i think you meant to say that sharks have been around for 400million( yes million with an "m") years. and conversations regarding which animal is going to win in a one on one fight, especially ones of similar size, are amongst the most pointless on YT.
@mrcardio9r Again, I'm unclear on where you are going with this. Just because the shark has been around for allegedly billions on years, that doesn't mean Great Whites have. That's why I'm confused on your initial assessment of the Orca (again, you mistyped it three times wihtout ever typing it once correctly?)
So, I'm just asking for clarification. The Orca can't be full grown, can't use intelligence, etc.? How are we going to get those variables into play to set up this battle?
@mrcardio9r I'm still trying to understand your point. Sharks have been around, but not great whites. Are you claiming that with all that extra experience, this video is not valid? Why do you have a personal vendetta against the video rather than simply disagreeing and then showing why. I don't think "old age" or "sharks were here first" is a valid argument. :)
A great white is more than capable of killing an orca but they do not target them as a prey item, therefore all orca attacks on sharks are unsuspecting. The GW is a much more highly skilled hunter, shamu would have a lot to worry about.
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It is not a killer whale!!! It is an Orca!!! The statement of the killer whale is completely wrong! This is how nature created this animal... If this is a killer, what about man? How can we nickname ourselves? Butcher humans? We are the greatest butchers in the nature! We kill everything!!! Even each other!
@ViDeOMaStErPaUl Very smart way to name an animal !!! Why don't you call it the anti-plankton whale? It's proper name is Orca, and I bet if this animal could understand our language, it wouldn't be happy a
Orca is the fuckin' shit in da sea..
balidancer 2 hours ago
Damn, they do seek for revenge.
binbashLinuxAhole 1 day ago
Great so now i dont have to be afraid of the shark but now the orca!
Purpl3NNJJ 1 week ago
Damn Nature, you scary
13yearsrox 2 weeks ago
A ten foot shark
makkool 2 weeks ago
@makkool Jerry Garcia was a juvenile 14ft GWS
goatboyful 2 weeks ago
i am team killer whale!
DieGDJulia 3 weeks ago 2
sun of the put
facebook9335 3 weeks ago
watching this video and listening NIGHTMARE LONG By metallica!! wtf!!! f*cking amazing!
ilovethesurf 3 weeks ago
I am scaried of nature in any time period. Dinasour days are freaky and big. Before sea monsters were the jelly fish and the algae that have venom, and modern day monsters like the Great White, Crocadile, and Orca scare the crap out of my ass. I am proud to be a part of nature especially if you think of it as a dinosaur being your brother from another mother and the orca is your good friend. I hope this makes sense, it's 5:00 in the morning; i haven't sleeped yet.
Tevatron044 3 weeks ago 4
big mama is her sharky
FLATRON20100 1 month ago
CA2 doesn't play well with others.
MrNonickdude 1 month ago
Sorry shark lovers, the Orca is the king of the sea.
Icantfeeeeeelit 1 month ago 7
Yay for Team Mammal!
AtheistOnTheEdge 1 month ago
To bad it was filmed with a calculator.
h2omanz 1 month ago
nobody touches my seallions...
CA2 DOESN'T SHARE FOOD !!!
501stlegionnaire 1 month ago 2
Hm.. Kiling a shark only for the liver? Ohkay..
TireFill 1 month ago
LOL
2002fsx 2 months ago
DAMN!
9sept1999 2 months ago
great orca the first predator of sea!!
albertoace1 2 months ago
79 sharks use computers
sailorz7 2 months ago
CA2 sounds like some experimental weapon. Something to evaporate terrorists with.
milvipes 3 months ago 11
orcas will eat shark week
asshatnowhere159 3 months ago
I got from skrillex to here
Damn youtube you misleading
dakota3122 3 months ago
damn u shamoo!
atulier 3 months ago
Well, if an animal is already dead, it is obvious that the shark will eat it. In this case, even small fish can feed on whale carcasses.
TheRicardobtc 3 months ago
ORCA is THE KING!!!!
darkhaoz25 3 months ago
YEAH RIGHT, A FULL ADULT KILLER SHARK WOULD WIN......... ITS PROBABLY THE ORCAS SIZE THAT PULLS THE SHARK DOWN
EDROCKSWOO 3 months ago
@EDROCKSWOO Nope, the Orca outsmarts the dumbass shark.
sliceanddic3 3 months ago
@sliceanddic3 hahahaahhahaha... LOL
balidancer 2 hours ago
@EDROCKSWOO Orca are known to pray on sharks, as they are bigger than them. Sharks don't eat whales, they prefer smaller dolphins, which they can wrap their mouths around.
foolintherain100 3 months ago
@foolintherain100 Sharks spend many a day cleaning the worlds oceans of whale carcasses. It's their job.
goatboyful 3 months ago
"orca is a type of killer whale." Nearly right. There is only one species, Orcinus orca, the Killer Whale. But there are three types in this one species, depending on where they live and what they hunt. Resident's, Transient's and Offshore's.
goatboyful 3 months ago
@goatboyful And the LA pod is accepted by scientists as a fourth type.
TheRicardobtc 3 months ago
@TheRicardobtc Can i ask by what scientist's, since when and why?
goatboyful 3 months ago
@goatboyful The scientists that were studying the LA pod since they appear on Farallons. They say it, because the LA pod have strategies to hunt both fish and mammals, depending on the circumstances, unlike other groups that are specialized in only one type of prey.
TheRicardobtc 3 months ago
@TheRicardobtc Interesting.
goatboyful 3 months ago
orca is a type of killer whale.
jason7456 3 months ago
@jason7456 Orca is half the latin designation for Killer Whale. Orcinus orca.
goatboyful 3 months ago
@goatboyful yes, i know that. Isn't it the same?
jason7456 3 months ago
commentator-*But The Tables Are Turned
dad-WHOS TABLE IS TURNED?!
Jacobadam121 3 months ago
I'd own that orca... just stick a cork in its blow hole.. Owned bitch!
gravey345 4 months ago
GO WILLY, GO!!!!
MrCaspianX 4 months ago 4
so? i ate a shark once.
ryanisthecrazyone 4 months ago
MMMMM Orca's love their sushi
KanameShito 4 months ago
this is an episode from NatGeo channel
4FearBR 4 months ago
C.A.2 you crajee.
llxzxll 4 months ago
I'm a pisces but I'd rather be a killa whale..
671LordsofGuamtown 4 months ago
Whale fanboy till I D I E. Just kidding, i am only a fan of our female counterparts.
xander96a 4 months ago
oh dear...shark fanboys vs whale fanboys lmao
TtimWh 4 months ago
Apex predator of the 5th trophic level people!
Adovid 4 months ago
theyy couldnt have given her a real name? ca2? wtf? what did you name YOUR child???
gwen2110 4 months ago
@gwen2110 These are not the only animals that have this kind of identification. When studying large groups, we use letters and numbers to identify each one. It would be a bit difficult to give a name to all of them.
TheRicardobtc 4 months ago
@TheRicardobtc i understand that ive heard them call other animals numbers nd ish, but they also have a real name like after it or they say "otherwise known as..."
gwen2110 4 months ago
Orca's are way more badass than i though, rofl
SyncPuReX 4 months ago
gf shark
MCDrizzzle 4 months ago
Damn Nature, You scary...
BrandonIsNear 4 months ago 79
@BrandonIsNear xD Family guy
EminemBeast01 3 months ago
@BrandonIsNear This comment is old as your father son of bitch
bloodyangel5463 3 months ago
And there were not enough space for more in the last message:
According to fossile records, the "great" and "invencible" Megalodon, disapeared from the fossile records, a few years after orcas appear for the first time in the oceans. It can be a simple coincidence, but some paleontologists now think that groups of orcas lead megalodons to extinction, by hunting the same preys that megalodons hunted (Whales).
But others also think it extinguished because of the change of waters' temperature.
TheRicardobtc 4 months ago
@TheRicardobtc Another theory is that young Meg's simply starved because of competition from a newer species of shark, Charcaradon carcharius.
goatboyful 4 months ago
@goatboyful "Charcaradon carcharius".
1) Great White Shark. You don't sound clever using the Latin name, it's just irritating & confuses people.
2) If you're going to use the Latin name, at least spell it properly.
fletchers4 4 months ago
@fletchers4 For the record, i was'nt trying to sound clever, how clever do you have to be to open a book? And as for spelling mistakes, well that can happen to anyone....yes?
goatboyful 4 months ago
What? Ok, lets see:
-The great-whites' max speed is about 40km/h and can only reach that speed in short bursts. Orcas can reach 55km/h and keep that speed for a long period
-The 2 attacks of orcas to great-whites were 1 on 1, and the orca won both without help of its pod
-Both shark and orca attack from below
-Great-whites succesfully kill prey in about 60% of its attacks. Orcas are succesfully about 90% of its attacks
-Despite of its size, great-whites never attack larger animals than himself
TheRicardobtc 4 months ago
@TheRicardobtc "-Despite of its size, great-whites never attack animals larger than himself.." Can't agree with that. Since a big part of a sharks life is hunting the weak and old, not to mention anything dead, as in whales. I don't think you can state that last one categorically.
goatboyful 4 months ago
@TheRicardobtc -The 2 attacks of orcas to great-whites were 1 on 1, and the orca won both without help of its pod??
^That is just complete bullshit, sorry dude but there are no TRUE videos of a killer whale attacking and killing a fully grown great white.
You also say that Orcas are 90% succesfull in hunting to the sharks 60%...well that is to be expected considering that sharks are lonesome hunters and orcas hunt in HUGE pods as there is strengh in numbers.
CheifSmokinDank 4 months ago
@CheifSmokinDank So this video we are commenting is about what? An adult orca killing a baby great-white? Or is that a montage? In this case, both had the same size.
I don't know why some still say that orcas can't kill great-whites and that there are no proofs, when there are videos proving otherwise, and one of these videos is right above.
Not to mention a 45 minutes documentary, done by professionals, with two attacks, and explaining everything else about it.
TheRicardobtc 4 months ago
@TheRicardobtc What im trying to tell you dude that there is no proof, its just aload of fake made up crap, the only way that orcas could actually kill a great white was if they had stengh in numbers like i stated in my previous post, so thats kinda like comparing this to a pride of lions to one lonesome leapord. The killer whale is only more dominent cuz it has a huge pod to defend it, 1 on 1 i think the shark would have the advantage :)
CheifSmokinDank 4 months ago
@CheifSmokinDank did you see the original home video from ALL the people who where whale watching that day when the orca carried the dead great white up to their boat in its mouth?
illyria1286 4 months ago
@illyria1286 I know i'd love to see it!
goatboyful 4 months ago
@CheifSmokinDank orca sneaks up on shark grabs it and flips it on its back (clever bastards orcas!) most sharks go catatonic when upside down (the orcas have worked this out) orca holds the shark still (easy enough because the shark wont struggle) shark drowns orca gets a nice meal
in short orcas are huge and have scary inteligence!
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@eatthisvr6 "orca sneaks up on shark grabs it and flips it on its back (clever bastards orcas!) most sharks go catatonic when upside down (the orcas have worked this out) orca holds the shark still (easy enough because the shark wont struggle) shark drowns orca gets a nice meal
in short orcas are huge and have scary inteligence!" Couldn't have said it better.. thumbs up
Icantfeeeeeelit 1 month ago
@CheifSmokinDank So this video we are commenting is about what? An adult orca killing a baby great-white? In this case, both had the same size.
I don't know why some still say that orcas can't kill great-whites and that there are no proofs, when there are videos proving otherwise, and one of these videos is right above.
Not to mention a 45 minutes documentary, done by professionals, with two attacks, and explaining everything else about it.
TheRicardobtc 4 months ago
Having said that imo if the two were to meet 1 on 1 i think the shark would win hands down as sharks can dive deeper than whales and the attack from below.
CheifSmokinDank 4 months ago
lol peta freaks
HappyHateDay 4 months ago 14
Send a Megalodon in , the tides would be MUCH different!!!!!!!
FEAROWNAGE 4 months ago
@FEAROWNAGE And how the fuck are they gonna go millions of years in the past? There's this thing called evolution. whales win, sharks dont.
Katazka 4 months ago
@Katazka Haha your talking complete nonsense, you obviously no nothing about sharks or whales, you just cant compare the two, killer whales hunt in pods, sometimes up to 150 in a pod, that gives the shark a slight unfair disadvantage if they were to meet, it would be like comparing a pride of lions to a lonesome gazelle. the killer whale may well be smarter but the great white is no pushover its a killing machine, it can move and monouver faster than the whale can and its got one hell of a bite.
CheifSmokinDank 4 months ago
@Katazka Sharks are more Succesful They have thrived for millions of years, whales haven't!!!!!!!!
FEAROWNAGE 4 months ago
@FEAROWNAGE Whales have been around for millions of years too. But being around for longer just makes you older. I mean for God's sake, sharks die if they dont keep swimming.
Katazka 4 months ago
@FEAROWNAGE Whales have been around for at least 30 million years, you're takling crap. Een if Sharks have been around for longer, how does that prove that they're more succesful? Rodents have 'thrived' since the extinction of the Dinosaurs, does that make them more succesful than humans? No.
fletchers4 4 months ago
@fletchers4 Ha, i see you do it as well....."Een" Indeed!
goatboyful 4 months ago
@fletchers4 What makes you say humans are more succesfull? we are poisoning ourselves to oblivion! when that happens, rodents will most likely survive and keep on going for another 100 million years, cheers
enchilada01 4 months ago
@enchilada01 Actually if all the humans died this moment, the rodents would have a field day for a while, but since they rely on us for just about everything, i think rodent numbers would drop significantly after that. If we're not alive to make the garbage and food which provides easy meals for them, they have to go back to foraging and that's a more risky prospect.
goatboyful 4 months ago
@goatboyful Uh, I doubt your theory would even make it a valid response. They survived millions of years before humans walked the earth and now you are saying they depend on us? I would say they have multiplied easier because of us but hardly depend on us,cheers!
enchilada01 4 months ago
@enchilada01 i didn't say that they'd go extinct, but with less food and greater predation their numbers would significantly drop.
goatboyful 4 months ago
@goatboyful The only thing tha is going to drop right now is your mommas panties
enchilada01 3 months ago
@enchilada01 oohhh that's as nasty as your mommas mouth.
goatboyful 3 months ago
Great video
mikemitaful 5 months ago
"The Whale that ate Jaws" and "Jaws Slayer" is the same documentary with a diferent title. But even the full documentary at "letmewatchit", only shows 2 attacks from orcas to great-whites. The first attack, people had filmed the begining to the end. The second time, scientists only had time to film the shark already killed and orcas eating it.
Until someone has the good luck to be in right place and time, and with a camera, to film a third attack, the 45-minutes documentary is all we have.
TheRicardobtc 5 months ago
@TheRicardobtc So the question becomes, why is the footage from the second event not as widely available? That i'd like to know, but who has the answer.
goatboyful 5 months ago
@goatboyful I don´t know, but maybe because, when scientists arrived to film the second attack, the action was almost over. It wouldn't deserve to be released like this one was.
The second attack was more interesting to scientists that wanted to know if the first attack was only an isolated event, or if it happens more than once. People who knew about the second attack were not so impressed as they were with the first one that was a novelty. People already knew that could happen again.
TheRicardobtc 4 months ago
Alright, Lets try another way.
If someone is interested, watch the NatGeo's documentary: Predator CSI: Jaws Slayer.
It is on letmewatchthis.ch
Enter "the whale that ate jaws" in the search bar. Click the image and then choose a version (I think Version 3 is the best quality available)
Sorry, but I can´t put the direct link here.
It is the full documentary of this and other attacks from orcas to great-whites.
This is also for those who think that I've been inventing in all my comments.
TheRicardobtc 5 months ago
@TheRicardobtc "..inventing.." no i just thought you were mistaken. For the record, i was interested so i went looking. My security software warned me off 'letmewatchthis', the National Geographic website did'nt have "Predator CSI: Jaws Slayer" in its search files only the same "Whale that ate Jaws" one we've seen for years. On 'natgeotv.com' i found 52 seconds of Jaws Slayer....and all it showed was the same bloody footage as before. And the only video of GWS and Orcas in South Africa...
goatboyful 5 months ago
@goatboyful ..was here on YT, it's called "Great White Sharks and Killer Whales at False Bay". Basically it's someones home movies of cage diving with GWS, then a boat ride with Dolphins and then with a few juvenile female Orcas. So lets summarize, we have video footage of Orcas killing and consuming a GWS at the Farallons. It's 14 years old, but it's genuine. We have a witnessed predation of Orcas on GWS at the Farallons on Nov 19 2000, no footage. Plenty of footage from NZ of Orcas hunting...
goatboyful 5 months ago
@goatboyful ...common Stingray. Still photos and testimony from NatGeo of Orca killing Mako sharks, again in NZ. And i have seen footage on TV of Orcas hunting reef sharks in the Coral Sea and swimming along with the poor sharks sticking out of their mouths like toothpicks. And quite frankly i'd kill for that footage right now! So again, i did'nt think or say you were 'inventing', i'd love to find any other footage of Orcas and White sharks or any sharks for that matter. Until then...bye.
goatboyful 5 months ago
killer whales....the naughtiest of all the whales
scalbard 5 months ago
megladon was about 40ft and 10 tons. humans can't stand not being the top of the food chain, hence when a non-human animal attacks a human-animal it's soooo horrible. it hasn't been that long since we, the human, have been here. dino's where here for many millions of yrs. and at this rate humans, thankfully , won't be here to lond
karensmurray 5 months ago
Just an aside: I don't come here to write these things without knowing, and in fact, and contrary to what may be thinking, I even like more sharks than many other animals.
TheRicardobtc 5 months ago
I watched the National Geographic's Doc about this event. I assure that there have been more attacks. However, what I also know, is that all arround the world, there is only 1 group of orcas that have learned how to hunt great-whites. No other group hunt great-whites. Also, all the sharks of false bay (where that orca killed the shark), have disappeared, after the second attack.
And about the argument of the years of evolution, humans live only 5 millions and dominates all other animals.
TheRicardobtc 5 months ago
@TheRicardobtc "...false bay(where that orca killed the shark)..."? False Bay, near Capetown South Africa? If you're referring to this event of CA2 and Jerry Garcia( the GWS had a name as well), this occured in Maintop Bay of the Farallon Islands 27miles west of San Francisco California. Yes you are correct about the GWS leaving, though it occured after both attacks. The second being off Shubrick Point at the Farallons on Nov 19, 2000. Tracking tags on the sharks revealled when...
goatboyful 5 months ago
@goatboyful ..they left and where they went. Famously, it was a male GWS named Tipfin, that swam all the way back to Hawaii before he returned.And for the record, like you i like sharks over all other animals as well. Have a good one from Downunder.
goatboyful 5 months ago
This idea that an Orca can easily kill a Great White via "tonic immobility" is laughable.
As if a Great White (one who's fully aware of what's going on / not distracted by boats, etc.) is going to so easily just let itself be man-handled by a large dolphin. I swear the way some people comment you just can't help to think they know nothing a Great Whites and or they're so emotional about orcas they're blinded by reality.
mrcardio9r 5 months ago
goatboy;
NEGATIVE! Great Whites have been around way way before dinosaurs (60m yrs) and are amongst the first sharks to rome the oceans. So yes they've been around for 400+ millions years.
You need to get you FACTS straight.
mrcardio9r 5 months ago
@mrcardio9r Gather up your evidence and i'll see you after work. Have a good one.
goatboyful 5 months ago
@mrcardio9r And we're back. Now i note for the public record, you wrote "....you need to get your facts straight.." And yet in none of your rants, do you ever quote any source materiel to back up your empty rhetoric( otherwise known as bullshit).Now there are two trains of thought as to the evolution of the "modern" GWS.Both are based on fossilised teeth. The first is that the GWS are evolved from the Mako family,Isurus. These extinct Mako sharks are noted for their narrow, smooth edged teeth...
goatboyful 5 months ago
@goatboyful ..which evolved during the Miocene period. These changed to a broad, serrated edged tooth by the start of the Pliocene period.This would cover a time frame about 16-4.5 million years ago. This is from "Origin of the Modern Great White Shark" by Stephen A. Alter.The fossil evidence from this theory shows that GWS started in Pacific Ocean and then spread to other areas. This theory is also supported by the 'Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology ', which in March 2009, concluded that GWS..
goatboyful 5 months ago
@goatboyful ..was evolved from extinct Mako and not C. Megalodon. This was primarily based on very well preserved fossil remains found in Peru.It had a jaw with 222 teeth and 45 vertebrae. Based on the shape and size of the teeth and growth rings in the vertebrae, the 4-5 million year old remains came from an early GWS of @17-18 feet in length and @20 years of age.Note that that's the early Pliocene period. Source was 'Bring me up the Enviroment' at "scrink.com." But, from "Elasmo research."..
goatboyful 5 months ago
@goatboyful ...that's "Elasmo research.com" comes this theory, again based on the teeth.The Charcaradon( that's rough tooth to you and me) lineage is older than the Isurus( Mako) line and starts about 60 million years ago, goes thru three smooth tooth species until Cosmpolitodus escheri, which lived 25-20 million years ago and gave rise to the modern GWS, which appeared @11 million years ago. Now i found all that in less than twenty minutes on google. Can you refute any of it? Do you..
goatboyful 5 months ago
@goatboyful ..dare to try? Do i really give a shit? But seriously, you're wrong, you were wrong before, you're wrong now......can you admit it here?
goatboyful 5 months ago 3
NO, this in the ONLY time people have witnesses such a Orca / GW interaction.
So you are dead WRONG about there being another attack witnessed.
mrcardio9r 5 months ago
@mrcardio9r and see my reply to TheRicardobtc about the only other known or recorded instance of Orca predation on Great White Sharks. Seriously, you need to smarten up.
goatboyful 5 months ago
And what about the fact that this attack of an orca to a great-white wasn't an isolated case?
Yes, when scientists discovered that an orca had attacked and eaten a great white, they began to investigate whether this had been just a single case or if the orcas actualy see sharks as another prey. So a few days later, they returned to the same place, and they found and filmed another orca, killing another shark, using exactly the same method as before: Put the shark in tonic immobility.
TheRicardobtc 5 months ago
* unsuspecting
mrcardio9r 5 months ago
Just about anyone can run up to an unspecting person who's half their body weight and knock the shit out of them. Does that prove anything? Is it something to brag / get all excited about?
mrcardio9r 5 months ago
* Any living being (still getting used to typing with iPhone) For the spellcheckers there are other typos but I'm sure people can comprehend regardless.
Bite force ratings are pointless when talking about an animal such as the Great White.
As for how long GW's have been around yes it's over 400 M yrs. They amongst the first sharks to rome the oceans. They have been forged via millions of yrs of evolution to become the ultimate killing machines they are.
mrcardio9r 5 months ago
@mrcardio9r hello again, Mr White has only been around for 12-15 million years.they were not by any measure "..amongst the first sharks to rome the oceans."
goatboyful 5 months ago
A Great White most certainly can inflict massive damage to Orcas. Bite force ratings are all over the place for great whites (~700- 2500 lbs). Regardless you fooling yourself if Great Whites are going to bite down on a steal object wrapped in a layer of rubber. They aren't gong to risk breaking their teeth biting down on a steal plate with as much force possible. The fact is that Great Whites can take chunks out of just about any living bring including whales / dolphins.
mrcardio9r 5 months ago
Ok, here is the problem for the great white: Unlike most people think, and according to scientists, a great white's bite is not much stronger than a human's bite. What causes the damage is the shape of the teeth. Orcas, just like any cetacean, have a thick layer of fat, protecting them from the cold and their vital organs. I think the thickness is about 10 cm. That means 10 cm that the shark's teeth must pass in order to hit a blood vessel and make the orca bleed. No shark can do it, even whites
TheRicardobtc 5 months ago
No ones accurately measures the "intelligence" of any species. Also "brain size" hasn't been determined to be an accurate indicator of intelligence. The Great White doesn't particularly have a large brain but that doesn't mean it will somehow be at a disadvantage fighting / defending itself. Everything about the Great White is geared towards making it an awesome predator. To say an Orca always wins in an actual one on one battle every time because of this video is absurd.
mrcardio9r 5 months ago
Yeah I typed "Orca" as "Ocra" are you going to be okay? Did you really not know what I was referring to our are you just playing dumb because I'm making a valid argument against you precious Orca?
As stated rather it's millions or billions (earth is ~4.5 billion yrs) so yes it's 400+ M years which is A LOT longer than dolphins regardless.
People don't make a big deal over a 350lb guy beating up a 150lb guy.
Bottom line vedio proves NOTHING.
mrcardio9r 5 months ago
Damn nature, you SCARRY!!!
elfnight11 5 months ago
Will orcas eat humans next?
beautifulstar33 5 months ago
PWND
cosimosalb 5 months ago
Birds: "HOLY SHIT"
plasticwinter 5 months ago
18 ft of ocra, mmm
chanaxt 5 months ago
Pound for pound say a 18ft Great White vs. 18ft Ocra of similiar weight I think the Great White would destroy an OCRA in an actual one on one battle. I'm not talking about a full grown OCRA catching a distracted sub-adult Great white off guard as shown in the video.
People like to say "but dolphins are so intelligent" And? Great Whites have 400+ billion yrs of evolution on their side and can fight damn well. Just because they don't play around with balls, etc doesn't make them dumb.
mrcardio9r 5 months ago
@mrcardio9r so your claim is the Orca (not ocra) can't use the element of surprise to the shark, can't be an adult killer whale...anything else?
For the record, fossils indicate the killer whale is 11 million years in evolution...the great white at 16 million. Linking it farther back hasn't yet been proven. :)
JimHinCO 5 months ago
@JimHinCO
Jim, yes I made a TYPO on YouTube and it wont be my last so please forgive now and in the future sir.
With that said Dolphins (Orca's) haven't been around nearly as long as Sharks (Great Whites) and YES it has been proven. It hasn't been proven to the EXACT time / date / time but the general concenous is over 400 BILLION (That's "B" as in BILLION) years that sharks have been around.
Regardless bottom line is that the video proves NOTHING.
mrcardio9r 5 months ago
@mrcardio9r Since this ball of rock known as Planet Earth has actually only existed for around 4 billion years, i think you meant to say that sharks have been around for 400million( yes million with an "m") years. and conversations regarding which animal is going to win in a one on one fight, especially ones of similar size, are amongst the most pointless on YT.
goatboyful 5 months ago
@mrcardio9r Again, I'm unclear on where you are going with this. Just because the shark has been around for allegedly billions on years, that doesn't mean Great Whites have. That's why I'm confused on your initial assessment of the Orca (again, you mistyped it three times wihtout ever typing it once correctly?)
So, I'm just asking for clarification. The Orca can't be full grown, can't use intelligence, etc.? How are we going to get those variables into play to set up this battle?
JimHinCO 5 months ago
@mrcardio9r I'm still trying to understand your point. Sharks have been around, but not great whites. Are you claiming that with all that extra experience, this video is not valid? Why do you have a personal vendetta against the video rather than simply disagreeing and then showing why. I don't think "old age" or "sharks were here first" is a valid argument. :)
JimHinCO 5 months ago
@JimHinCO Terran OP.
noobenstein 1 month ago
@princesswolf1213 circle of life sweetie. Get over it.
demonkissed201 5 months ago
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ChaseMcQueen 5 months ago
why do people say they are animals we are all animals gosh and we kill and turture more than they kill everyday
princesswolf1213 5 months ago
survival of the fitist
leanneissosweet 5 months ago
i saw a whale mug a cod once they are rite bastards
CROMERCRABO1 5 months ago
The Orca is Boston
The Shark is Vancouver
hello48 5 months ago
that´s pretty damn impressive..
extradutyfelt1 5 months ago
ORCA APEX ROCK!!
music4lifesux 5 months ago
i want to see an orca flinging around a human, the way they do seals
WWF4200 5 months ago
Those bad killer whales. How dare they kill that poor baby whale.
BlancheDubois 5 months ago
@BlancheDubois This is real life, they have to eat.
grandmasterreggaex 5 months ago
A great white is more than capable of killing an orca but they do not target them as a prey item, therefore all orca attacks on sharks are unsuspecting. The GW is a much more highly skilled hunter, shamu would have a lot to worry about.
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kudo's to hollywood for making them as cuddly as they seem.
but make no mistake Killer Whales are the top predator of the sea, and they are smart as hell.
missionpupa 5 months ago
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missionpupa 5 months ago
they call them killer wale for a reason
BULLSEYEICEMAN 5 months ago
SHAMU TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
superfreakinawesome8 6 months ago
The Canuck's beats the san jose sharks!
freindlyapache101 6 months ago
But the table turned ~narorated
freindlyapache101 6 months ago
dolphins are still the faves :)
sk8apunkgirl 6 months ago
L.A pod, will fuck you up.
ZeeBeani 6 months ago
@ViDeOMaStErPaUl It is not a whale, it is a dolphin because it is to smart to be a whale and it have a dolphin like dorsal fin.
yes4roblox 6 months ago
there's a reason why its called Killer Whale! Free Willy VS. Jaws!! XD
930Studios 6 months ago
70 dislike from shark lovers :)
ro2a93 6 months ago
Idk, cool in theory, I can't see $hit
Dmg8130 6 months ago
And people want to swim with Orcas
saints0107 6 months ago
Whos' the king of seas ?
alesssandro78 6 months ago
She's a 25 year old female killer whale - Sounds like my x girlfriend.
Zachu89 7 months ago
i saw this happen in the 2011 stanley cup playoffs.
darksidelead 7 months ago
Me : Ow I bet you can't eat this White Shark
Orca : Ow I bet you I Can, Nomnomnom
Me : Holy shit
TutorialsAndCo 7 months ago
Annoying Orange: Hey Hey Shark Hey Shark Hey.
Shark: WHAT!
Annoying Orange: Orca!
Shark: Huh?
Orca eats Shark
MrSaturnFanster 7 months ago 7
kills the entire shark for just his liver. amazing.
0ddler 7 months ago
its copying shamu excpt is a shark not a person
cocoacrisp505 7 months ago
SHAMU We comin for you!!!!!
SSgtToby 7 months ago
That Orca is a boss!
AdamLambertsNuma1FAN 7 months ago
0:35 Seagulls: We want a piece of that too, you know...
toni8675 7 months ago
MAMMALS, FUCK YEAH!
Alectr0n 7 months ago 3
Revenge maybe....?
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MrZayster 7 months ago
Way to go CA-2!!
levelwitme 7 months ago
It is not a killer whale!!! It is an Orca!!! The statement of the killer whale is completely wrong! This is how nature created this animal... If this is a killer, what about man? How can we nickname ourselves? Butcher humans? We are the greatest butchers in the nature! We kill everything!!! Even each other!
19ultima88 8 months ago
@19ultima88 We call it a killer whale because its the only whale that kills other animals besides plankton.
ViDeOMaStErPaUl 7 months ago 2
@ViDeOMaStErPaUl Very smart way to name an animal !!! Why don't you call it the anti-plankton whale? It's proper name is Orca, and I bet if this animal could understand our language, it wouldn't be happy a