So Manson basicaly raped a 16 year old girl, along with everyone else. Murder is one thing, but raping a 16 year old girl I ain't down with. I didn't know that about Manson, from his interviews he sounds smarter than that.
Manson wasn't present during the murdering of adults by adults. Manson was the leader of a hippie commune. Manson presumably asked fellow adults to commit murder. Yes: ASKED!
Charles Manson was not a general, not a cop, not a warden, nor a legislator. He had no political power. He had no power to arrest & incarcerate anyone.
The adults, whom he asked to murder other adults (and an unborn child), could have simply disappeared into the night without punishment. The adults, who were convicted of the murders, testified that they had often disobeyed Manson's, so-called, orders. The adults, who were convicted of the murders, testified that they routinely & freely left "the family," unobserved by Manson, to scavenge for food & clothing. The great otherworldly, hypnotic control Manson had on adults is a media contrivance.
this is actually very close to the original testimony. except Manson's lawyer, Irving Kanarek (called Skobel here) interrupted Kasabian so much more, after almost every one of her responses, that it was practically impossible for her to testify. There are pages and pages of trial testimony between most of her answers. Kanarek was so disruptive even Manson himself got mad at him.
@613leaderclint0:34 SKIP HOMIER the original billy jack plays the judge he had a tv series dan raven where he investigate corruption in hollywood he has a lot of investigating to do he also played a spaced out hippie in star trek and a Nazi on the planet of Nazis in star trek the headquarters of the Nazis was the robert taylor building at paramount he was a snitch in the macarthy hearings
Short of getting ALL the remaining people who are still alive ... that lived through this action, into the same room and carefully grilling each one as to what THEY specifically recall.. who did what, when, with whom.... etc. and then adding all the testimony up and balancing it out...
We are never going to get a really clear mental picture of what happened that night.
Their memories will all be slightly different.. that is the way "witnesses" are.
It so sad how this man is glorified by people,sad world we live,just the fact that he was recieved all this media attention is sickening to me,sad sad sad world,and we wonder why there is evil in the world,because we invite in to our lives,has nothing to do with God.love from sierra leone
@ani1616 there is no evidence that says manson actually killed. It was the girls, if they cant handle acid thenv thats their problem. Manson, if you watch his prison intervirews, is a man that just wants to be close to nature and respect the earth. The thing that makes the world sad is how most people listen to exactly what the big man wants them to listen to.
@kattmjaouvoff There could be something to what you're saying (=the standard Manson line of defense) but the fact remains the "girls" went to their killing in a group. Why and how would they do this without a conspiracy beforehand? And would the acknowledged and self-confessed leader of the commune be outside this serious action by commune members? If there was one girl that had gone to kill at the ranch, it could be argued that there was no conspiracy. But it can't.
How naive can anyone be? Manson killed Gary Hinman and there was a mountain of evidence I had several hours with Vince Bugliosi (the prosecutor) Charlie was upset with Terry Melcher who lived at 10050 Cielo Dr. and TOLD TEX AND THE GIRLS TO MAKE IT SO MEMORABLE THE COUNTRY WOULD NEVER FORGET IT!! AND THEY DID! But Charlie was so "out of touch with reality" that he didn't realize Terry Melcher and his fiancee' Candace Bergen had moved from that address 3 to 4 weeks earlier.
@shemacm2 If that's the case then why did Melcher (in an interview with some magazine) say that Manson knew he no longer lived there? Melcher said Manson had even tried to contact him at his new house. If that's true, not only did he know he'd moved, he also knew where he'd moved to. There's more to this case than meets the eye. I don't think Manson is lying when he says he didn't tell them to do it but there is something he's not telling people.@englishvinal8 you hit the nail right on the head!
LOL oh yes his concern for the environement the big excuse for all the manson horrors.
No, manson did not personally kill those people, but he set it up, showed the murderers where to go, actually took them to the LaBiancas and helped tie them up, hacked hinman's ear with a machete and left with orders to kill him, etc, so you can't say he's blameless, BUT FOR his directions those murders would not have occured.
@ani1616 The problem is the media (TV, newspapers, movies) and the people who control it, are buying and selling fear on a daily basis regardless of the implications it may have or who it effects. Manson didn't give himself that platform, the media did. It makes money and certain people are more than happy to cash in on other peoples misery. It is sad that this goes on but Manson has been warning people about this for the last 40 odd years. You can't go blaming him for the public's blood lust.
linda is a bitch. a criminal, a thief, unfit mother, slut, and much more. she knew when she drove that car to the tate house there was going to be murder...she still today talks about her attrac tion to charlie and tex wityh a smile on her face..she got by without serving time because she turned evidence...worthless white trash still.
She is guilty due to her accociation and only association. She was the prosecutions star witness, for she which she received immunity. The only problem I see with is that when manson told he get a change of black clothing, then giving the address where he wanted his subjects to go and was instructed to 'leave something witchy'- did she really think that they were going for groceries or perhaps do something illegal?
has this film been banned in England. true movies advertise it in tv mag but allways change it to another film...also cant rent it on love film.com . sayes not available for rent..
steve railsback did a super job, i am still convinced he is manson, this movie is a classic, they may have remade it, and now i hear another one is coming out, won't touch this one though,
Yes Railsback studied Manson's speech patterns, he nailed the slight midwestern accent with a hint of country twang that Manson has, did a super job capturing his voice. Railsback was a great actor, too bad his career never took off. The remake of this movie from 5 years ago had some douchebag that just talked in a low growl that wasn't anything like Manson.
Esta pelicula Helter Skelter de 1976 fue exhibida en los 80´s cá en mi país (Brasil) por la cadena Rede Globo en el año de 1982, a las 23h15, entre los días 12 y 16 de julio en el programa "Festival de Férias" (Festival de Vacaciones). Fue exhibida en el formato de miniserie, con 5 episodios.
The Beatles were/are modern prophets, and there are hidden messages and meanings in many of their songs. To learn how to perceive these hidden meanings, search "Truth Contest" in Google and click the 1st result, then open The Present and read through the section about The Beatles.
I have to hand it to Linda, no matter what one thinks of her, she had some serious balls to get up there & testify. The Manson group had no problem murdering when it served the group. they most likely would have attempted to silence her by killing her. Or they could have harmed her family/ children. I wouldn't put it past them. They visited her while she was in protective custody to persuade her not to testify. She said bugger off, then unwaveringly told the jury what happened those 2 nights.
Lol yourself, you grab a straw and challenge me to prove you wrong which I did twice....if I get around to reading the other testimonies, I'll let you know.
Yeah kudos to Railsback, he studied manson's speech and nailed the mild country twang Manson had. There was a movie from 5 years ago the douchebag playing manson just talked in a growly voice and sucked, didn't sound at all like manson. Steve railsback is a great actor who never got the right breaks.
@Bumblybee256 You believe that? Tex, Bobby, Charlie, they just decided to bring Atkins, and Krenwinkle to the Tate site, and Vanhouten to the Labianca site, and ordered only Linda to stay in the car both nights? If they didn't try to silence her with acid, she probably would never have turned state's evidence.
@Bumblybee256 A.) It makes no sense that 2 nights in a row Manson sends 3 girls to commit Helter Skelter and both nights Linda is left in the car (for what reason?) B.) She is motivated by the promise of immunity ("jailhouse snitches" are notoriously of dubious credibility) C.) She is motivated by her only chance to get her child back. D.) She is motivated by the fact that Moorehouse may have tried to kill her with an overdose.
@ih8tbush A.) wasn't she the driver? Quick get away? Do I have to point out that you are trying to find reason in the actions of a mentally ill man.
Er.....all of those are very reasonable motivations to tell the truth, yes. They don't implicate her in the crimes. Do you know what would? DNA at the crime scene but there isn't any.
B.) Reason in the actions of mentally ill man? GOOD POINT!
C.) The Motivation of a witness is relevant as to their credibility
D.) Crime Scene DNA is not an issue because no one has to prove their innocence.
i just don't buy DA's "Linda's-a-good-kid-that's-why-she-camd-forward" If Van Houten turned state's evidence, she'd have testified as the-girl-in-the-car.
@ih8tbush A) The intention that she would be the getaway driver doesn't mean that's how it played out.
B) That may be the cae, it doesn't prove her involvement.
C) They had maps of the house where blood/weapons were found and with names on it showing where this evidence was found. I think it was actually on a youtube video too.
D) Doris Tate was not there. Why did none of the others implicate Linda? In all of their testimnoies they describe what they saw the others doing.
@Bumblybee256 show me where Linda testified that she drove away from either crime scene and I'll surrender. ...as to the maps, ...that's not the DNA evidence that would convict or acquit anyone. You asked my what reason have I to doubt her, and you attack each reason as if I wrote, "I had reason to convict her"...I never claimed I had the evidence to convict her! But I don't believe her and I think I did a good job explaining why.
@ih8tbush I didn't say she definately did, that was her intended purpose. Actually- it is evidence that certain people were at the crime scene. I just asked you why none of the others mentioned her doing any killing in their testimonies. You haven't really, you just have a 'hunch'. Remember the whole innocent until proven guilty thing?
@Bumblybee256 Hi! please read the last statement of my last comment. I understand the presumption of innocence, I assure you. I am rabidly anti-death-penalty...I've seen multiple f# ups in our legal system.And yes all I have is a hunch. That's all I ever claimed...that I don't believe her. . look at your first reply to me.
@ih8tbush I really don't see what's so hard to believe about a girl being caught up with charles manson who didn't want to murder and didn't. What's so unbelievabe?
@Bumblybee256 You don't have to see what's so hard to believe! You asked me what reason have I to doubt her. My reasons are well-laid-out, as are answers to your counter-points. I challenged your beliefs, you defended them. You challenged my beliefs I defended them...that's what a debate is. Neither of us have converted the other, nor have we succumbed to ad-homini. Cool enough?
@ih8tbush It basically seems to amount to you believing something simply because you feel like it, not because of any compelling reason. Not that I particularly care but it doesn't seem like a particularly logical way to live.
You didn't answer my question about the testimonies of the defendents. You've now avoided it twice.
@ih8tbush So it basically amounts to you believing something because you feel like it, not because of any compelling reason? Not that I particularly care, it just seems like a thoroughly illogical way to live.
You didn't answer my question about the other testimonies, you keep avoiding it...
@Bumblybee256 the fact that you don't find my reasons compelling is at this point inconsequential and particularly so with respect to the way I live..I had a feeling you would eventually go there.
@Bumblybee256 you're grabbing at straws....you said 3 times that she was the getaway driver...she wasn't....you mentioned DNA how many times? Then when pressed you refer to arrows pointing to blood spots at the crime scene (no DNA evidence implicates any of the convicted...did they even have DNA testing in 1969?) Then you start referring to testimony of other defendants? Fine...I'll bite...what do you have? What testimony from what other defendant backs up Kasabian?
@ih8tbush Lol, I said she was the intended getaway driver.
Jesus christ, how many times? I asked you why none of them implicate her in their testimonies, when they mention what they saw the others doing in their retelling of that night.
@Bumblybee256 and just for the record...look at your message from 3 days ago where you strenuously declare by enumerated point that Linda testified that she was the getaway driver ....pesky record
@Bumblybee256 Ih8tbush @bumblebee256: A. Linda never testified to driving bumblebee256@Ih8tbush: "A. Yes she did"
My English is fine. You grab at a straw, and then you try to change what you said....same thing with DNA, .... and probably the same thing with testimony of other defendants....I haven't had the chance to read that testimony, if I do , I'm sure you'll modify that claim too just like the car, just like the DNA
@ih8tbush What exactly did I modify about the DNA? Linda testified to being the getaway driver, what have I changed about that? Oh, I see you've finally actually acknowledged what I was trying to ask you. Don't let this upset you dear, it's youtube.
I have no need to grab at anything, given that you are the one attempting to find reasons to disbelieve her, none of which make sense.
@Bumblybee256 kasabian didn't testify to being the getaway driver. she was yelled at by Tex Watson when she started up the car, he pushed her over to the passenger seat & drove himself. that's not a getaway driver. i think she was brought along to be tested by Manson, to see if she could kill, but when Tex saw her reacting to the murder of steven parent he left her out of the killings in the house, determining she wasnt capable of murder & would botch the mission, which she did the next night.
@Bumblybee256 First of all that would still make her an accessory to the crime, just not an accomplice, and second of all there is no proof that she didn't know what they were.
@ninjawarrior1314 There's no proof she did. Innocent until proven guilty. And no- simply being in the area of a crime doesn't make you an accessory to it.
@Bumblybee256 Um ok, sorry would have rather me say that it is absolute BULLSHIT, that she didn't get charges, because it is, she WAS an accessory and actually if you want to get technical about it she was also an obstructor to justice for not reporting just going along with
@ninjawarrior1314 Well, because I'd rather noone think it's my word, given that it's such a ridiculous choice. Yes yes, I can completely see why it's ridiculous to think she might've been hesitant to report crazed murderers. Why don't you outline exactly what you would've done if manson had told you to get in the car for some unknown mission, bearing in mind your child is at the ranch.
@Bumblybee256 Thats a question that nobody other then the people who have been in that scenario can answer. I would go along with your game, but Im completely ignorant on that subject, because Ive never been in that situation, and chances are neither have you. And her child being at the ranch still doesnt justify the fact that she broke law, morally she did the right thing, but literally and legally she didnt and she should have been charges with the rest of the manson family.
@ninjawarrior1314 Right, but it seems that I- unlike you- have actually recognised what a difficult situation it would be to be in. You don't seem to have understood why I mentioned her child. If she had refused to go for whatever reason what do you think Manson was capable of?
@Bumblybee256 First of all she definitely broke the law, enough said. Secondly I did notice that you mentioned her child considering I used her in my last post, and to be honest I don't know why you are defending this woman when you most likely have no relations with her at all. Once again, what he was capable of, honestly has nothing to do with her, she chose to go, not because she was scared for her child but because that was just a choice she made that she should have been penalized for.
@Bumblybee256 I don't think you understood the way I have used my statement. If everyone said they didn't know something was illegal and did it anyways, or did it without knowing, then we could do anything we wanted, instead there are laws that prevent that, that's why in today's world, the "ignorance toward the law" is not longer accepted.
@funkybunny9966 And kindly do not spam my account, it won't make you right, dear. This is how stalkers start and I believe that's against the law. Who's the nut here.
@Bumblybee256 Call the police and charge me lol... Your obviously a true nut who looks for equality for everyone. You probably think Manson himself deserves another chance.
@funkybunny9966 I know I know, only 'nuts' believe in equality. Lol no, I believe there's evidence for convicting Manson, there's none for kasabian. All you can say is 'she was with them'. What a crime.
@funkybunny9966 That's not evidence. I think you've just realised you're being very foolish (and btw, I'll take educational advice from you can you know the difference between 'your' and you're'). 'hon'.
@Bumblybee256 See? You know you have lost the contest here because you have now turned it into an immature account banter by worrying about who uses "your" and "you're". Your exactly the type of person that i make video's about... So whats your anger about today? What's ticked you off to feel now to use insults instead of being civil? We are done now, because I have proved my point... In both ways. TSK TSK, shake your head.. You are ignored now due to your stupidity. Enjoy your life, get help.
@funkybunny9966 No, I asked you for evidence and you gave none, you simply made some snide remark about education that you clearly are not fit to make. Either back up what you say or shut up. Simple, miss law expert.
@recoverfromhydro Except he was the cult leader who told them to go, I doubt you could get Linda on the same charge. Additionally, he did kill at least one person on the ranch. The only thing you could get Linda on is being scared of charles manson, what would you have done if he'd told you to get in the car?
@recoverfromhydro charlie tied up leno and rosemary labianca in their home then told tex and the others what to do due to the fact the tate killings were even too out of control by his standards, so that does make him a direct accessory to first degree murder
Kasabian still cries crocodile tears. She should be in prison too. She knows she helped plan the murders, she knows she helped facilitate them. She knows she only turned the other way when she was arrested-- just like Tex.
I think these ppl were brain washed, young and stuped.I feel bad for them. They seem to seriouly regret what they've done. They seem to have smartened up and taken responsibility by now. Except for mad manson.
@ipolson True...but Christ isn't about 'religion'. There are a host of religions in the world. Read John 3:16. And remember that Susan and Tex were under the 'religion' of Charles Manson in the 60's until they found the love and forgiveness of the REAL Jesus!
@MrsWLeach: I would never read 'John 3:16' because I do not believe in religion, god, jesus or any of that crap. People who have 'found Jesus' live in some sort of fantasy world. They haven't 'found' anybody. If you want to believe the nonsense about Adam and Eve etc that is your choice.
@Jtrip2133: I agree. In fact, they were not on drugs when they committed the murders. Charlie made sure they were 'clean' that night so there was no 'mistakes',
This was testified by Linda Kasabian and others at the time, and stated by her in a recent documentary on UK TV. 'The devil' (whatever that means) - Bullshit !
Demonic powers of darkness at work through all of these evil people. Anything the devil is good at they are...lying, cheating, stealing, killing, etc, etc.
You got that right a half tab of acid in the 60's was a common dose, we'd split one and trip balls, a whole hit was a freak out holy moly roller coaster ride. Blotter shit today people brag about taking 3 or 4 hits, that's because it's weak ass shit.
i havent seen this ina long time i need to watch it again. there is another movie on VHS called "MANSON" that stated that linda turned states evidence. it is thre banned one on VHS oop with Squeaky and others on it. this movie also has ronnie howard on it and other people, including vincent. Vincent Bugliosi is my hero. if the murders had not happened, charlie would have never been remembered, unless they got the kinda coverage neil cassidy did.
Linda turned state's evidence, there was a 2009 tv broadcast -Cineflix produced a docu-drama called Manson, in which Kasabian appears, telling her story in complete detail for the first time.This program was telecast in the U.K. on August 10, 2009, and also in the United States on Sept. 7, 2009, on the History Channel. In this taped interview, Kasabian recounts her four weeks spent with the Manson "family". Her image is slightly obscured to protect her identity.
it is quite amazing in a way that he got other people to commit crimes for him,he was such a sick son a bitch i do not think he ever thinks of the families that lost loved ones,he missed the death sentence by a hair,too bad,taxpayers in cali have had to feed and cloth this monster for a long time hopefully he will die soon but it should be in the way he made others suffer in my opnion,just saying.
Gosh! This video is fantastic! Some of these people look like famous Hollywood actors! I am particularly amazed that their happened to be cameras filming EVERYTHING in their lives! Wow! Where have you been hiding this amazing footage!
upload the whole movie..that would be awesome
prostockgirl 2 weeks ago
So Manson basicaly raped a 16 year old girl, along with everyone else. Murder is one thing, but raping a 16 year old girl I ain't down with. I didn't know that about Manson, from his interviews he sounds smarter than that.
TheCrazyplaying 2 months ago
@TheCrazyplaying so your ok with killing, u just don't like rapists?
mcrGD11 2 months ago
@TheCrazyplaying so your ok with killing, u just don't like rapists? what does that say about u?
mcrGD11 2 months ago
@mcrGD11 I'm not ok with it, I'm just saying it doesn't bother me as much.
TheCrazyplaying 2 months ago
@TheCrazyplaying so u would be less mad if a guy killed your mom then if he just raped her?
mcrGD11 2 months ago
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@mcrGD11 why don't you tell me what it says about me?
TheCrazyplaying 2 months ago
@TheCrazyplaying manson is completely insane. lmao. and murder is worse than rape, really. you can't come back from murder.
Kizzymorgan 5 days ago
This is one of the scariest movies you'll ever see. Used to give me nightmares! "Hey, you...Bugliosi"
WeaselHalfbreed 2 months ago
I was lookin fa the illuminat mansons not these crackers. P.s. I don't care who gets mad.
niggerlover500 3 months ago
Manson wasn't present during the murdering of adults by adults. Manson was the leader of a hippie commune. Manson presumably asked fellow adults to commit murder. Yes: ASKED!
SufferInJuly 3 months ago
Charles Manson was not a general, not a cop, not a warden, nor a legislator. He had no political power. He had no power to arrest & incarcerate anyone.
SufferInJuly 3 months ago
The adults, whom he asked to murder other adults (and an unborn child), could have simply disappeared into the night without punishment. The adults, who were convicted of the murders, testified that they had often disobeyed Manson's, so-called, orders. The adults, who were convicted of the murders, testified that they routinely & freely left "the family," unobserved by Manson, to scavenge for food & clothing. The great otherworldly, hypnotic control Manson had on adults is a media contrivance.
SufferInJuly 3 months ago
damn i thought this was real until I witnessed the bad acting. i object!
kailuagirl87 3 months ago
this is actually very close to the original testimony. except Manson's lawyer, Irving Kanarek (called Skobel here) interrupted Kasabian so much more, after almost every one of her responses, that it was practically impossible for her to testify. There are pages and pages of trial testimony between most of her answers. Kanarek was so disruptive even Manson himself got mad at him.
613leaderclint 4 months ago
@613leaderclint 0:34 SKIP HOMIER the original billy jack plays the judge he had a tv series dan raven where he investigate corruption in hollywood he has a lot of investigating to do he also played a spaced out hippie in star trek and a Nazi on the planet of Nazis in star trek the headquarters of the Nazis was the robert taylor building at paramount he was a snitch in the macarthy hearings
spacepatrolman 3 months ago
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CorbuloIV 4 months ago
movie.
skuppy 4 months ago
is that the real spahn ranch? it sure looks like it
karmalevel 5 months ago
Short of getting ALL the remaining people who are still alive ... that lived through this action, into the same room and carefully grilling each one as to what THEY specifically recall.. who did what, when, with whom.... etc. and then adding all the testimony up and balancing it out...
We are never going to get a really clear mental picture of what happened that night.
Their memories will all be slightly different.. that is the way "witnesses" are.
englishvinal8 6 months ago
It so sad how this man is glorified by people,sad world we live,just the fact that he was recieved all this media attention is sickening to me,sad sad sad world,and we wonder why there is evil in the world,because we invite in to our lives,has nothing to do with God.love from sierra leone
ani1616 6 months ago
@ani1616 there is no evidence that says manson actually killed. It was the girls, if they cant handle acid thenv thats their problem. Manson, if you watch his prison intervirews, is a man that just wants to be close to nature and respect the earth. The thing that makes the world sad is how most people listen to exactly what the big man wants them to listen to.
kattmjaouvoff 5 months ago
@kattmjaouvoff are you serious? LMAO
karmalevel 5 months ago
@kattmjaouvoff There could be something to what you're saying (=the standard Manson line of defense) but the fact remains the "girls" went to their killing in a group. Why and how would they do this without a conspiracy beforehand? And would the acknowledged and self-confessed leader of the commune be outside this serious action by commune members? If there was one girl that had gone to kill at the ranch, it could be argued that there was no conspiracy. But it can't.
Then there's Motive.
sternumagnum 5 months ago
How naive can anyone be? Manson killed Gary Hinman and there was a mountain of evidence I had several hours with Vince Bugliosi (the prosecutor) Charlie was upset with Terry Melcher who lived at 10050 Cielo Dr. and TOLD TEX AND THE GIRLS TO MAKE IT SO MEMORABLE THE COUNTRY WOULD NEVER FORGET IT!! AND THEY DID! But Charlie was so "out of touch with reality" that he didn't realize Terry Melcher and his fiancee' Candace Bergen had moved from that address 3 to 4 weeks earlier.
shemacm2 5 months ago
@shemacm2 If that's the case then why did Melcher (in an interview with some magazine) say that Manson knew he no longer lived there? Melcher said Manson had even tried to contact him at his new house. If that's true, not only did he know he'd moved, he also knew where he'd moved to. There's more to this case than meets the eye. I don't think Manson is lying when he says he didn't tell them to do it but there is something he's not telling people.@englishvinal8 you hit the nail right on the head!
djgraememaclean 4 months ago
@kattmjaouvoff
LOL oh yes his concern for the environement the big excuse for all the manson horrors.
No, manson did not personally kill those people, but he set it up, showed the murderers where to go, actually took them to the LaBiancas and helped tie them up, hacked hinman's ear with a machete and left with orders to kill him, etc, so you can't say he's blameless, BUT FOR his directions those murders would not have occured.
Blahblobify 4 months ago
@ani1616 The problem is the media (TV, newspapers, movies) and the people who control it, are buying and selling fear on a daily basis regardless of the implications it may have or who it effects. Manson didn't give himself that platform, the media did. It makes money and certain people are more than happy to cash in on other peoples misery. It is sad that this goes on but Manson has been warning people about this for the last 40 odd years. You can't go blaming him for the public's blood lust.
djgraememaclean 4 months ago
KILL ME IF YOU DARE, HOLD MY HEAD UP EVERYWHer.........sorry wrong video.
metalmillita666 6 months ago
Alright, Marilyn Burns...havent seen her, well since Leatherface was chasing her into that pickup truck in Texas Chainsaw Massacre!
SuperOmnicron 6 months ago
linda is a bitch. a criminal, a thief, unfit mother, slut, and much more. she knew when she drove that car to the tate house there was going to be murder...she still today talks about her attrac tion to charlie and tex wityh a smile on her face..she got by without serving time because she turned evidence...worthless white trash still.
sweetkittytwine 7 months ago
Was this like a part of a movie or something?Because I saw a picture of the same girl who played Susan Atkins in this in something else.
nationalanthemrca 7 months ago
@nationalanthemrca Yea, it's a movie called Helter Skelter
jcspeb010 6 months ago
She is guilty due to her accociation and only association. She was the prosecutions star witness, for she which she received immunity. The only problem I see with is that when manson told he get a change of black clothing, then giving the address where he wanted his subjects to go and was instructed to 'leave something witchy'- did she really think that they were going for groceries or perhaps do something illegal?
countryhoney28 7 months ago
this bumblenut is a real whacko. Guilty!! case closed. wow.
tiltedchips 7 months ago
Any and all of this is pathetic. They should've all been executed immediately.
MrBionicman 7 months ago
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has this film been banned in England. true movies advertise it in tv mag but allways change it to another film...also cant rent it on love film.com . sayes not available for rent..
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reddun 7 months ago
How did she know the date was aug. 8? she was trippin balls. back in my trippin days i had no idea what date it was.
TheDeadhead76 7 months ago
This version's much better than the updated one,in 2004.
recoverfromhydro 8 months ago
lol
7734ion 8 months ago
steve railsback did a super job, i am still convinced he is manson, this movie is a classic, they may have remade it, and now i hear another one is coming out, won't touch this one though,
vanhalen515084 8 months ago
@vanhalen515084
Yes Railsback studied Manson's speech patterns, he nailed the slight midwestern accent with a hint of country twang that Manson has, did a super job capturing his voice. Railsback was a great actor, too bad his career never took off. The remake of this movie from 5 years ago had some douchebag that just talked in a low growl that wasn't anything like Manson.
Blahblobify 8 months ago
Allen Oppenheimer sitting next to the prosecutor...did many cartoon voices most noteably Skeletor in the HeMan cartoon series 83-85
MotorCityPlayer 8 months ago
Esta pelicula Helter Skelter de 1976 fue exhibida en los 80´s cá en mi país (Brasil) por la cadena Rede Globo en el año de 1982, a las 23h15, entre los días 12 y 16 de julio en el programa "Festival de Férias" (Festival de Vacaciones). Fue exhibida en el formato de miniserie, con 5 episodios.
123CHEGOUAMINHAVEZ 8 months ago
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vividDC 8 months ago
OHMAHGOT! If I Had A nickle For Every Time Thaat Guy Yelled "Object" I'd Be Making More Money Then Him
NARUTO5195 8 months ago
Rose Hemsley, Joe Esposito, and Nick Espinoza committed those murders, not Charles Manson
bronyr2 9 months ago
Hope everybody realizes this is from the movie.
any12u 9 months ago
0.40 - what's Chuck Berry doing in the background?
allscape 9 months ago
Intended getaway driver.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
I have to hand it to Linda, no matter what one thinks of her, she had some serious balls to get up there & testify. The Manson group had no problem murdering when it served the group. they most likely would have attempted to silence her by killing her. Or they could have harmed her family/ children. I wouldn't put it past them. They visited her while she was in protective custody to persuade her not to testify. She said bugger off, then unwaveringly told the jury what happened those 2 nights.
nextgenerationbob 9 months ago
Who is the lady who coming at Linda when she was heading to the courtroom and what did she say?
AaronRodgersIsHot 10 months ago
I liked this tv movie better then the crap they put on Lifetime nowadays
AaronRodgersIsHot 10 months ago
Lol yourself, you grab a straw and challenge me to prove you wrong which I did twice....if I get around to reading the other testimonies, I'll let you know.
ih8tbush 10 months ago
thisis a movie??? what is the name of this movie please let me know
blancarobledovilla 10 months ago
@blancarobledovilla It's called "Helter Skelter". A TV movie from 1976.
aftershock71 10 months ago
@beepollen1 .......He doesn't want his legacy to be about Manson.....but that's all he ever talks about in public.
Andreas748 10 months ago
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ih8tbush 10 months ago
Steve Railsback was awesome as the hideous Manson
generalzod4life 11 months ago
@generalzod4life
Yeah kudos to Railsback, he studied manson's speech and nailed the mild country twang Manson had. There was a movie from 5 years ago the douchebag playing manson just talked in a growly voice and sucked, didn't sound at all like manson. Steve railsback is a great actor who never got the right breaks.
TheJomogogo 10 months ago
NOW CAN I GET A AMEN GODDAMN IT? HEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAW!!!!!!!!
heLLLarryus 11 months ago
linda kasabian is a lying snitch that deserves to be in prison
tyronesmith666 1 year ago
@tyronesmith666 lol manson lover
kfag101 1 year ago
@tyronesmith666 Shes also an obese sack of shit living in a trailer park in the midwest!
RecordsAdNauseam666 1 year ago
hes not guity of anyhting hes a good man....
astaroth333777 1 year ago
So he's also guilty of at least sexual assault and they're taking no notice of that........
Bumblybee256 1 year ago
In all reality, did that woman actually leap at Kasabian, or is that a dramatization?
savannahribeiro 1 year ago
LSD 300 times what's up Ozzie. I knew you couldn't talk . so it's nice to see you can still write.
Ruckasman 1 year ago
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@Ruckasman well said buddy
elyurita 1 year ago
soooo...basically she got away scot free? I guess people will believe lies over truth!
LittleSerboLamb 1 year ago
@LittleSerboLamb she didn't kill anyone. she was in the car.
Bumblybee256 1 year ago 5
@Bumblybee256 You believe that? Tex, Bobby, Charlie, they just decided to bring Atkins, and Krenwinkle to the Tate site, and Vanhouten to the Labianca site, and ordered only Linda to stay in the car both nights? If they didn't try to silence her with acid, she probably would never have turned state's evidence.
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush What reason have you to doubt it?
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 A.) It makes no sense that 2 nights in a row Manson sends 3 girls to commit Helter Skelter and both nights Linda is left in the car (for what reason?) B.) She is motivated by the promise of immunity ("jailhouse snitches" are notoriously of dubious credibility) C.) She is motivated by her only chance to get her child back. D.) She is motivated by the fact that Moorehouse may have tried to kill her with an overdose.
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush A.) wasn't she the driver? Quick get away? Do I have to point out that you are trying to find reason in the actions of a mentally ill man.
Er.....all of those are very reasonable motivations to tell the truth, yes. They don't implicate her in the crimes. Do you know what would? DNA at the crime scene but there isn't any.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
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ih8tbush 10 months ago
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ih8tbush 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 A.) Linda never testified to driving.
B.) Reason in the actions of mentally ill man? GOOD POINT!
C.) The Motivation of a witness is relevant as to their credibility
D.) Crime Scene DNA is not an issue because no one has to prove their innocence.
i just don't buy DA's "Linda's-a-good-kid-that's-why-she-camd-forward" If Van Houten turned state's evidence, she'd have testified as the-girl-in-the-car.
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush A).......yes she did.
C) I know, what's your point?
D) It is an issue by the simple fact they did not find any of hers.
You can't know any of that.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 .
A.) Tex drove to and from "Tate". ... Clem drove to and from "Labianca:...per Linda's testimony.
C.) "immunity-for-state's-evidence" is widely accepted as less credible than disinterested testimony.
D.) Whose DNA did they find? (1st I've heard of DNA and Manson case)
E.) Of course I can't know that....I was only making a point by way of hypothetical illustration...Linda's is a tall tale..and Doris Tate agrees.
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush A) The intention that she would be the getaway driver doesn't mean that's how it played out.
B) That may be the cae, it doesn't prove her involvement.
C) They had maps of the house where blood/weapons were found and with names on it showing where this evidence was found. I think it was actually on a youtube video too.
D) Doris Tate was not there. Why did none of the others implicate Linda? In all of their testimnoies they describe what they saw the others doing.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 show me where Linda testified that she drove away from either crime scene and I'll surrender. ...as to the maps, ...that's not the DNA evidence that would convict or acquit anyone. You asked my what reason have I to doubt her, and you attack each reason as if I wrote, "I had reason to convict her"...I never claimed I had the evidence to convict her! But I don't believe her and I think I did a good job explaining why.
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush I didn't say she definately did, that was her intended purpose. Actually- it is evidence that certain people were at the crime scene. I just asked you why none of the others mentioned her doing any killing in their testimonies. You haven't really, you just have a 'hunch'. Remember the whole innocent until proven guilty thing?
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Hi! please read the last statement of my last comment. I understand the presumption of innocence, I assure you. I am rabidly anti-death-penalty...I've seen multiple f# ups in our legal system.And yes all I have is a hunch. That's all I ever claimed...that I don't believe her. . look at your first reply to me.
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush I really don't see what's so hard to believe about a girl being caught up with charles manson who didn't want to murder and didn't. What's so unbelievabe?
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 You don't have to see what's so hard to believe! You asked me what reason have I to doubt her. My reasons are well-laid-out, as are answers to your counter-points. I challenged your beliefs, you defended them. You challenged my beliefs I defended them...that's what a debate is. Neither of us have converted the other, nor have we succumbed to ad-homini. Cool enough?
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush It basically seems to amount to you believing something simply because you feel like it, not because of any compelling reason. Not that I particularly care but it doesn't seem like a particularly logical way to live.
You didn't answer my question about the testimonies of the defendents. You've now avoided it twice.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@ih8tbush So it basically amounts to you believing something because you feel like it, not because of any compelling reason? Not that I particularly care, it just seems like a thoroughly illogical way to live.
You didn't answer my question about the other testimonies, you keep avoiding it...
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 the fact that you don't find my reasons compelling is at this point inconsequential and particularly so with respect to the way I live..I had a feeling you would eventually go there.
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush And yet again you avoid my question.
It seems fitting that you eventually find some way to take offence to give you an excuse to be avoidant. Nice tactic.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 you're grabbing at straws....you said 3 times that she was the getaway driver...she wasn't....you mentioned DNA how many times? Then when pressed you refer to arrows pointing to blood spots at the crime scene (no DNA evidence implicates any of the convicted...did they even have DNA testing in 1969?) Then you start referring to testimony of other defendants? Fine...I'll bite...what do you have? What testimony from what other defendant backs up Kasabian?
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush Lol, I said she was the intended getaway driver.
Jesus christ, how many times? I asked you why none of them implicate her in their testimonies, when they mention what they saw the others doing in their retelling of that night.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 and just for the record...look at your message from 3 days ago where you strenuously declare by enumerated point that Linda testified that she was the getaway driver ....pesky record
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush She did say she was the getaway driver. The INTENDED getaway driver. English just keeps tripping you up.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Ih8tbush @bumblebee256: A. Linda never testified to driving bumblebee256@Ih8tbush: "A. Yes she did"
My English is fine. You grab at a straw, and then you try to change what you said....same thing with DNA, .... and probably the same thing with testimony of other defendants....I haven't had the chance to read that testimony, if I do , I'm sure you'll modify that claim too just like the car, just like the DNA
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush What exactly did I modify about the DNA? Linda testified to being the getaway driver, what have I changed about that? Oh, I see you've finally actually acknowledged what I was trying to ask you. Don't let this upset you dear, it's youtube.
I have no need to grab at anything, given that you are the one attempting to find reasons to disbelieve her, none of which make sense.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 I am attempting nothing other than to answer YOUR original question.
While your re-introduction of ad-homini is subtle, it is by most standards of debate de facto surrender. I'm done...enjoy the last word.
ih8tbush 10 months ago
@ih8tbush As if I need to attack you. I wasn't referring to my original question, I was referring to my point about the testimonies. Brick wall.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 kasabian didn't testify to being the getaway driver. she was yelled at by Tex Watson when she started up the car, he pushed her over to the passenger seat & drove himself. that's not a getaway driver. i think she was brought along to be tested by Manson, to see if she could kill, but when Tex saw her reacting to the murder of steven parent he left her out of the killings in the house, determining she wasnt capable of murder & would botch the mission, which she did the next night.
dianne93675111 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Which makes her an accessory to the crime.
ninjawarrior1314 8 months ago
@ninjawarrior1314 Not if she didn't know what they were going to do.
Bumblybee256 8 months ago
@Bumblybee256 First of all that would still make her an accessory to the crime, just not an accomplice, and second of all there is no proof that she didn't know what they were.
ninjawarrior1314 8 months ago
@ninjawarrior1314 There's no proof she did. Innocent until proven guilty. And no- simply being in the area of a crime doesn't make you an accessory to it.
Bumblybee256 8 months ago
@Bumblybee256 True, but don't don't you think it is a little cheesy that she gets off scot free?
ninjawarrior1314 8 months ago
@ninjawarrior1314 er what? You think it's 'cheesy' so she should go to prison? Because it's 'cheesy'?
Bumblybee256 8 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Um ok, sorry would have rather me say that it is absolute BULLSHIT, that she didn't get charges, because it is, she WAS an accessory and actually if you want to get technical about it she was also an obstructor to justice for not reporting just going along with
ninjawarrior1314 8 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Oh and why do you quote cheesy, like some kind of self-righteous douche?
ninjawarrior1314 8 months ago
@ninjawarrior1314 Well, because I'd rather noone think it's my word, given that it's such a ridiculous choice. Yes yes, I can completely see why it's ridiculous to think she might've been hesitant to report crazed murderers. Why don't you outline exactly what you would've done if manson had told you to get in the car for some unknown mission, bearing in mind your child is at the ranch.
Bumblybee256 8 months ago
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ninjawarrior1314 8 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Thats a question that nobody other then the people who have been in that scenario can answer. I would go along with your game, but Im completely ignorant on that subject, because Ive never been in that situation, and chances are neither have you. And her child being at the ranch still doesnt justify the fact that she broke law, morally she did the right thing, but literally and legally she didnt and she should have been charges with the rest of the manson family.
ninjawarrior1314 8 months ago
@ninjawarrior1314 Right, but it seems that I- unlike you- have actually recognised what a difficult situation it would be to be in. You don't seem to have understood why I mentioned her child. If she had refused to go for whatever reason what do you think Manson was capable of?
.....and she didn't break the law.
Bumblybee256 8 months ago
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@Bumblybee256 First of all she definitely broke the law, enough said. Secondly I did notice that you mentioned her child considering I used her in my last post, and to be honest I don't know why you are defending this woman when you most likely have no relations with her at all. Once again, what he was capable of, honestly has nothing to do with her, she chose to go, not because she was scared for her child but because that was just a choice she made that she should have been penalized for.
ninjawarrior1314 8 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Ignorance is no excuse to the law.
funkybunny9966 7 months ago
@funkybunny9966 Lol, I think you'll find it is.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 I don't think you understood the way I have used my statement. If everyone said they didn't know something was illegal and did it anyways, or did it without knowing, then we could do anything we wanted, instead there are laws that prevent that, that's why in today's world, the "ignorance toward the law" is not longer accepted.
funkybunny9966 7 months ago
@funkybunny9966 yes, but she didn't do anything against the law, she was simply in their company.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Being there is being an accomplice, learn the law. In today's fashion you do time for that.
funkybunny9966 7 months ago
@funkybunny9966 No, simply being there does not make you an accomplice. Has it been shown she knew what was going to happen and took part?
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 This was in a time when the law was stupid, like i said in todays fashion if your there you go away. Don't be so naive.
funkybunny9966 7 months ago
@funkybunny9966 Lol, explain what evidence you would use to charge her. Don't be so nutty.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@funkybunny9966 And kindly do not spam my account, it won't make you right, dear. This is how stalkers start and I believe that's against the law. Who's the nut here.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Call the police and charge me lol... Your obviously a true nut who looks for equality for everyone. You probably think Manson himself deserves another chance.
funkybunny9966 7 months ago
@funkybunny9966 I know I know, only 'nuts' believe in equality. Lol no, I believe there's evidence for convicting Manson, there's none for kasabian. All you can say is 'she was with them'. What a crime.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Educate yourself on the law hon. Seriously. You have no idea how it truly works.
funkybunny9966 7 months ago
@funkybunny9966 That's not evidence. I think you've just realised you're being very foolish (and btw, I'll take educational advice from you can you know the difference between 'your' and you're'). 'hon'.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 See? You know you have lost the contest here because you have now turned it into an immature account banter by worrying about who uses "your" and "you're". Your exactly the type of person that i make video's about... So whats your anger about today? What's ticked you off to feel now to use insults instead of being civil? We are done now, because I have proved my point... In both ways. TSK TSK, shake your head.. You are ignored now due to your stupidity. Enjoy your life, get help.
funkybunny9966 7 months ago
@funkybunny9966 No, I asked you for evidence and you gave none, you simply made some snide remark about education that you clearly are not fit to make. Either back up what you say or shut up. Simple, miss law expert.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Neither did Charlie;was'nt with them the 1st night. Charlie,himself did'nt kill anyone the 2nd night either.
recoverfromhydro 8 months ago
@recoverfromhydro Except he was the cult leader who told them to go, I doubt you could get Linda on the same charge. Additionally, he did kill at least one person on the ranch. The only thing you could get Linda on is being scared of charles manson, what would you have done if he'd told you to get in the car?
Bumblybee256 8 months ago
@recoverfromhydro charlie tied up leno and rosemary labianca in their home then told tex and the others what to do due to the fact the tate killings were even too out of control by his standards, so that does make him a direct accessory to first degree murder
ftlshome1 7 months ago
this is the 1976 movie version
MinakoTomoe 1 year ago
that actor looks and sounds 100% like charles manson, thats crazy
SargentandGreenLeaf 1 year ago
people in the 60s and 70s were idealistic idiots
MrJbabs 1 year ago
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ih8tbush 10 months ago
Kasabian still cries crocodile tears. She should be in prison too. She knows she helped plan the murders, she knows she helped facilitate them. She knows she only turned the other way when she was arrested-- just like Tex.
xjakknifex 1 year ago
I think these ppl were brain washed, young and stuped.I feel bad for them. They seem to seriouly regret what they've done. They seem to have smartened up and taken responsibility by now. Except for mad manson.
thaisfakiani 1 year ago
@thaisfakiani Is this the 1976 version or 2004 one??
cam68 1 year ago
@thaisfakiani Doesn't matter. they did what they did. Fuck em.
davehutchinson67 1 year ago
i think this actress was in the original texas chainsaw massacre, she was the girl who lived the longest
sammy13576 1 year ago
@sammy13576 thats right the 1973 version
jacobladders 1 year ago
I laugh at the fools who place blame. Keep blaming "devils" "drugs".....whatever fits into your little box lol. Have a nice day = )
Jtrip2133 1 year ago
@Jtrip2133 it is true the devil works through people to destroy the world
kathryn8169 1 year ago
@kathryn8169: Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told.
Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right....
H L Mencken
ipolson 1 year ago
@ipolson True...but Christ isn't about 'religion'. There are a host of religions in the world. Read John 3:16. And remember that Susan and Tex were under the 'religion' of Charles Manson in the 60's until they found the love and forgiveness of the REAL Jesus!
MrsWLeach 1 year ago
@MrsWLeach: I would never read 'John 3:16' because I do not believe in religion, god, jesus or any of that crap. People who have 'found Jesus' live in some sort of fantasy world. They haven't 'found' anybody. If you want to believe the nonsense about Adam and Eve etc that is your choice.
ipolson 1 year ago
@Jtrip2133: I agree. In fact, they were not on drugs when they committed the murders. Charlie made sure they were 'clean' that night so there was no 'mistakes',
This was testified by Linda Kasabian and others at the time, and stated by her in a recent documentary on UK TV. 'The devil' (whatever that means) - Bullshit !
ipolson 1 year ago
@Jtrip2133 I know right. Some people are just truly fucking evil.
MamaLuigii 1 year ago
Demonic powers of darkness at work through all of these evil people. Anything the devil is good at they are...lying, cheating, stealing, killing, etc, etc.
anddihier 1 year ago
everything back then looked like a tv show.
captainkill1 1 year ago
ive dropped acid at least 300 times and i am fine
2dboy 1 year ago 23
@2dboy Yeah, right.
tubiebrother 1 year ago
@tubiebrother its true - i hardly ever see weird creatures coming out of the wall anymore!
2dboy 1 year ago
@2dboy that doesn't mean you're fine. Why would you do that to yourself? Later in life it could cause you serious problems. Good luck.
tubiebrother 1 year ago
@2dboy Bullshit ;)
orchfader 1 year ago
@orchfader glad someone can see sarcasm when its clearly written
;)
2dboy 1 year ago
@2dboy yea no doubt...at LEAST 300 times....I guess that renders me incompetent to stand trial lol
shaneyboy04 1 year ago
@2dboy stay away from me lol
williemetoyer23 1 year ago
@2dboy and so are your 3 other personalitys
barinit 1 year ago
@barinit im not sure which one of me should answer that remark
2dboy 1 year ago
@2dboy imagine that !! another human has given "their self" a pass !
plutoplatters 1 year ago
@2dboy Acid nowadays is nothing like it was then.. Just Sayin.. We don't know what good, clean drugs are
nothingnevermind27 10 months ago
@nothingnevermind27
You got that right a half tab of acid in the 60's was a common dose, we'd split one and trip balls, a whole hit was a freak out holy moly roller coaster ride. Blotter shit today people brag about taking 3 or 4 hits, that's because it's weak ass shit.
TheJomogogo 9 months ago
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Blahblobify 8 months ago
This version is a lot better than the one a couple years ago.
HUSKY57887 1 year ago
look up Steve Railsback on WIkipedia
TEMPmichaelhansen 1 year ago
i havent seen this ina long time i need to watch it again. there is another movie on VHS called "MANSON" that stated that linda turned states evidence. it is thre banned one on VHS oop with Squeaky and others on it. this movie also has ronnie howard on it and other people, including vincent. Vincent Bugliosi is my hero. if the murders had not happened, charlie would have never been remembered, unless they got the kinda coverage neil cassidy did.
TEMPmichaelhansen 1 year ago
Linda turned state's evidence, there was a 2009 tv broadcast -Cineflix produced a docu-drama called Manson, in which Kasabian appears, telling her story in complete detail for the first time.This program was telecast in the U.K. on August 10, 2009, and also in the United States on Sept. 7, 2009, on the History Channel. In this taped interview, Kasabian recounts her four weeks spent with the Manson "family". Her image is slightly obscured to protect her identity.
TEMPmichaelhansen 1 year ago
Mansons eyes are watering at 4:55.
prostockgirl 1 year ago
it is quite amazing in a way that he got other people to commit crimes for him,he was such a sick son a bitch i do not think he ever thinks of the families that lost loved ones,he missed the death sentence by a hair,too bad,taxpayers in cali have had to feed and cloth this monster for a long time hopefully he will die soon but it should be in the way he made others suffer in my opnion,just saying.
Latebargirl 1 year ago
Gosh! This video is fantastic! Some of these people look like famous Hollywood actors! I am particularly amazed that their happened to be cameras filming EVERYTHING in their lives! Wow! Where have you been hiding this amazing footage!
TwoUselessLegs 1 year ago