January 2010 - for Everyone - Astrology Pt. 1/2

[mrbluesfan22]

Before you come in here and start badgering intellectual discussion, you must first realize these things you submit are nothing new, that we haven't already had our eyes on.

Trust me, I used to be in your shoes myself. It is time to grow past the idea that government was built to represent each of us individually, and realize that we need to find our most appropriate niches in society in which we can fulfill our needs, as well as the needs of others.

[northwatuppa]

Dan, ol' man, I have a doctorate in history and many, many years observing politics and history under my belt.

These are not primarily about history or politifcs. If they were, they would be very, very different in form and content.

They are about astrology with an effort to ground them in present realities so people can run with them. My primary concern is to get the astrology straight and clear and simple.

[oEXARCHIAo]

@mrbluesfan22 :not sure if your comment is directed at me or someone else.

[mrbluesfan22]

Oh sorry for the confusion, my last comment was posted @ deckchairs.

[deckchairs1]

Who is badgering? My comments are entirely well-intended. These are current issues that effect us all as they pertain to hits to capricorn & the upcoming grand cross which is historical.

I have not once in my life been under the illusion of gov't representing lil ol me, and have adjusted to life as a self-supporting adult since the age of 19.

I find your comment pompously redundant and assuming.

Everyone's an expert, lol!

[mrbluesfan22]

Just wanted to point out that not too long ago, I used to think as the gov't as us vs them, by bringing up points about fascism and the rise of the 4th reich. 

Thankfully Northwatuppa has steered me away from those constant negative thoughts.

[deckchairs1]

It's not about big gov't, it's about Fascism.

It's not about warm grassroots, it's about legalized theft of the fruits of one's labor.

This is about vulnerability (moon) to punitive propriety (pluto) draining lifeforce from the vulnerable.

It's about Disaster Capitalism using humanitarian $ to finance military occupation.

It's about denying food & medicine/arresting people trying to survive.

What I hear you say, friend, is get used to it.

[northwatuppa]

If that is what you hear me saying, then you aren't listening.

[deckchairs1]

Not at all, sir, I was observing the gaps in what you were saying and where obvious trends seem to be leading us as a nation.

This isn't a challenge to you at all as you lay out the ground we are walking on.

But ground has substance and particulars. Anything I have pointed out that you see differently, I invite you to do so, please.

[northwatuppa]

@deckchairs

OK, but this video is about the North Node in Capricorn. The NN transit of Capricorn is a small part of a comparatively small cycle in a very complicated astrological picture.

So the trend described in this video is relatively transient. The NN will transition into Sagittarius early in 2011.

So you see why I resist the idea that it will necessarily lead to a lengthy era imperialist abuses.

[mrbluesfan22]

I'm a little curious about how the president is going to go about things tonight. I hope that he can say a few things about these top down initiatives you are refering to, if this is the direction we are supposed to go.

One thing is for sure though, these vague and pompous speeches of the past are not sufficient. I think this will be a boom or bust oppertunity for him to engage the people in a more transparent and direct manner.

What are you keeping your eye on tonight?

[northwatuppa]

I definitely agree with you on this one. Obama needs to do more than talk, and talk and talk some more. He himself seems not to realize that, which is worrisome.

[mrbluesfan22]

Knowing of most of the famous people who studied the human psyche from Skinner to Prigonin, the more we study, the more we are dumbfounded. Kind of like the rest of the universe.

I just don't see how an increase in gov't and bureaucracies, is going to help. Anyone care to elaborate on this?

[northwatuppa]

I didn't say anything about more government bureaucracies. I said the planets are supporting top down initiatives - requiring top down solutions - at this point in their cycle.

[oEXARCHIAo]

@mrbluesfan22 Agreed, we are more dumb founded, always another piece to the puzzle, its part of the mystery. I gave the example of Prigogine - Assagioli - Harris to show the wide spectrum a particular idea can take .BTW Obama - good talker bad doer.

[LStratis1]

Boy, after today's court decision,did you hit it on the head.

[northwatuppa]

This Supreme Court decision has me watching for any sign at all that Congress will really rise to the challenge.

[deckchairs1]

This 3 house structure is now a shellgame with no pea.

We have maybe 3 spokespersons in our behalf who unwittingly support the Illusion of appropriate function.

Sorry, it's pallas conj venus aq in an air trine talking.

[mrbluesfan22]

I had the luxury of witnessing the full moon on the night of the Jan. 1st eclipse. It was surreal, felt like I could reach up at the moon and touch it. It felt so close. Like I was almost among "them".

I've always had a particular fascination with moon, like many others I'm sure. I was wondering if you have had any ideas or knowledge of how the moon and sun have this perfect symmetry of circumference and distance to provide us with such amazing sights.

[northwatuppa]

What I can tel you with some confidence is that if I could explain that, I'd be one of the world's greatest gurus. But I can't explain it. I have just read enough to know that the answer to that question is a humdinger.

[alchemistra]

Excellent series, btw, and touches on the historical elements of the aspects in a way that I find very appealing.

[alchemistra]

There is so much going on astrologically right now that it is difficult to take note of all the different energies that are coming into play. This video helps to clarify much. I will study these aspects more.

[northwatuppa]

There is a lot more to come in the months ahead.Frankly, my head is spinning. At the end of the day, I wait and watch to see how the world chooses to respond, and set my expectations accordingly.

I like to look ahead, and forecast, many of us do, especially my subscribers. But this time, things are so complicated, one really needs to wait for some empirical input.

[oEXARCHIAo]

@northwatuppa This is just great!

A higher order of complex systems - bifurcation point has been reached - (Prigogine's Order out of Chaos) and we can't return to the old comfortable models of adaption any longer. Its about time. Hold on tight....

[northwatuppa]

Indeed.

[northwatuppa]

Prigogene's principle: Prigogine's principle says that as systems become more complex, a threshold of complexity will be reached such that the system will begin functioning in unpredictable directions; such a system will lose its initial conditions and these can never be reversed or recovered (Briggs & Peat, 1989; Kondepudi & Prigongine, 1998).

[oEXARCHIAo]

At a certain point the futility of the old adaption methods, the escape routes and avoidance tactics reach their classic limits and a bifurcation point is met....the existiing structure gives way and the existing ways of adaption cannot protect the individual any longer from the changed reality. .. Individuals facing the stresses of a chaotic transition era may self-organise their self and psyche to a higher more complex level of functioning and behaviour. (Levy and Merry ) Its all good

[northwatuppa]

It certainly describes what we are in the midst of, and which we are headed into a lot more of.

I have seen a number of people get pushed through Prigogene's barrier in the last week or two alone.

I think it is also happening to businesses and institutions. Could get very weird.

[deckchairs1]

lol, I think you just described the rise of nazi germany.

[mrbluesfan22]

Prigogine was a physicist right? You are not aligning his mathematical or statistical equations to social structures, are you?

[northwatuppa]

Nope, just a couple of agining hippies making small talk.

[oEXARCHIAo]

@mrbluesfan22 : Prigogine could be called the Physicists answer to Joseph Campbell. The topic is more related to chaos theory and fractals/attractors. According to Levy and Merry the theory is related personal development and social structures, ie.. Life is far more complex today than it was in the 60's.(higher order system)s Merry relates this theory to Assagioli's Psychosynthesis. Bill Harris (Holosync) also describes the process in detail.

Yup, just a couple of ageing Hippies Man

[mark191416]

Thank you for this heads up!

[northwatuppa]

No problem.