as cool as cliff stoll is, he sure lacks the foresight the big players in the computer business had at that time. i don't know of a dentist who doesn't use a computerized chair with patience database and whatnot. nor would i want to go to one who doesn't have that equipment.
any politician who isn't computer literate and thus can't inform and back check certain data that he'd otherwise use unchecked is nowadays doomed to fail. he's (still) right with the actor-example though
@GameDocumentaries There is no need for these people to have any knowledge of computers beyond that of knowing how to use an application. Anyone can be taught how to use these programs relatively quickly. They need not know of what happens in the background. It only distracts from the task at hand.
Even though politicians have access to better communication technology, they still are practicing effetive communication, rather than effective computing.
@sniperpj21 i agree, but you're missing the point.stoll's remark didn't go against advanced computer use, but use of computers in general in these jobs:
"These are jobs [...] where you don't need to know ANY computing to do it"
His dentist example makes it even clearer. He specifically says he doesn't need one who is capable of using programs, but only one that is competent with teeth, so while your point is true, it is not Stoll's argument.
Clifford is great. Saw him speak at Harper College(Illinois) regarding how he caught some hackers working for the KGB. About the late 80's or early 90's.
Clifford is great. Saw him speak at Harper College(Illinois) regarding how he caught some hackers working for the KGB. About the late 80's or early 90's.
as cool as cliff stoll is, he sure lacks the foresight the big players in the computer business had at that time. i don't know of a dentist who doesn't use a computerized chair with patience database and whatnot. nor would i want to go to one who doesn't have that equipment.
any politician who isn't computer literate and thus can't inform and back check certain data that he'd otherwise use unchecked is nowadays doomed to fail. he's (still) right with the actor-example though
GameDocumentaries 2 weeks ago
@GameDocumentaries There is no need for these people to have any knowledge of computers beyond that of knowing how to use an application. Anyone can be taught how to use these programs relatively quickly. They need not know of what happens in the background. It only distracts from the task at hand.
Even though politicians have access to better communication technology, they still are practicing effetive communication, rather than effective computing.
sniperpj21 4 days ago
@sniperpj21 i agree, but you're missing the point.stoll's remark didn't go against advanced computer use, but use of computers in general in these jobs:
"These are jobs [...] where you don't need to know ANY computing to do it"
His dentist example makes it even clearer. He specifically says he doesn't need one who is capable of using programs, but only one that is competent with teeth, so while your point is true, it is not Stoll's argument.
GameDocumentaries 4 days ago
The interenet was useful for me in looking up telelphone wire diagrams so that I could link two different phone lines together.
Tzimnewman3 1 month ago
is it at all ironic that i'm watching this on the internet?
ElJimbro 1 month ago 2
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firehotemily 2 months ago
God i love this guy, he's so smart and holds my attention.
jezzr101 4 months ago
I love the irony of this being on the internet
this is a brilliant man wise before his time
Snowtail07 5 months ago 2
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Clifford is great. Saw him speak at Harper College(Illinois) regarding how he caught some hackers working for the KGB. About the late 80's or early 90's.
Great wisdom.
19775kevin 5 months ago
Clifford is great. Saw him speak at Harper College(Illinois) regarding how he caught some hackers working for the KGB. About the late 80's or early 90's.
19775kevin 5 months ago
I remember reading Cliff Stoll's book at the age of 6 and asking Dad whether I could try and catch a hacker like him XD
er10b 5 months ago
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annoying as hell, perhaps his real name is Cliff Stool.
MengaoZico 7 months ago
May be almost 20 years old this talk but everything still holds true. Great post. Thanks.
leambambam 7 months ago 3
@leambambam Is it really almost 20 years old?? How do you know when it was given?
Sandcat87 2 months ago
@Sandcat87 the first three seconds it shows "recorded in 96" ... soo
CivilWarcraft 2 months ago
this guy is epic
ValdemarDragunov 8 months ago
Thank you for posting this.
dudejohnny 9 months ago 10
My favorite mad scientist.
MadeHaste 9 months ago 31
Thank you for the upload, best talk I've heard all year.
prolulzem 9 months ago