@mightyafrowhitey theres a difference between art and just stupid, what is he trying to say? Many hipster/artsy types take a look a something thats so different and strange that they assume its brillance, but this sounds like a apparent lack of creativity and skill. If im wrong tell me. Explain why this is good please.
@MrBubbaloo I can't explain to you why this is good. only that I enjoy listening to it. I'm sure there are unfortunately people who say they like modern art just for the sake of trying to look "intellectual." menn of these people also critisize more traditional forms of music as sucking, which is equaly as ignorant. but I also think it's ignorant to write off anything you don't understand or appreciate as being "not good." bottom line, I just close my eyes and submit myself to the sounds.
@MrBubbaloo either you like it or you don't. but you can't go into any type of art or music having preconceived notions. whether it's the beatles or the balinese monkey chante, I just like what I like.
@funnyfacerful exactly. There doesn't have to be a message behind any form of art for it to be good, but generally it takes something great and amazing in an artists life to create something amazing.
I think that this is what gives more personal meaning to an artists own work, personal meanings should only matter to the maker, while remembering what they were feeling at the time.
@funnyfacerful Actually, all musicians are making statements. He is trying to communicate the meaningless of the universe without God to order it- trying to produce the sound of a universe that was generated at random by chance- thus this song as with others was actually written with each note being hit as randomly as possible.
Also, you say there is no formula for greatness in art, but you just gave a formula- "encapsulating music you want to exist in"!
@funnyfacerful I have sympathy with you. I'm also a musician. I think John Cage's music is brilliant with consistency in its purpose to be ever-purposeless- it's statement that makes no statement. But I as a rational non-robot human being recognize that this music is based on a particular worldview known as materialism- a world found on chance and thus music founded on chance. So this kind of music is making a statement about who we are, namely that we are actually impersonal robots.
@funnyfacerful So, for example if a Christian who believes man is not a robot because he is made in the image of God were to create this kind of music- it would utterly oppose the basis for which he believes this world and mankind was founded. With this in mind- this music as with all forms of human communication is making a statement about the world- statements which are the ANTITHESIS of others. Does that make sense?
@tipsband04 Barely, but using a more convoluted example does not make it MORE sensical! It is more or less, the same point you made in your previous comment and which i have already refuted. Perhaps John himself can explain it too you.
@funnyfacerful Actually, all musicians are making statements. He is trying to communicate the meaningless of the universe without God to order it- trying to produce the sound of a universe that was generated at random by chance- thus this song as with others was actually written with each note being hit as randomly as possible.
Also, you say there is no formula for greatness in art, but you just gave a formula- "encapsulating music you want to exist in"!
@newdaydawnsong Yes this is a prepared piano piece. I don't listen to much
of his music these days but he is still one of my favorite composers and persons to ever have lived. I really love his philosophy of music and life in general.
@S3bz3r0 What is so surprising? there are only four different sound. I don`t understand what is your expectation. random chord progressions? peace and love.
It sounds like wind chimes moving in the breeze.
LoveIndigo678 2 months ago
great :)
EmilyMaddenComposer 6 months ago
@FeoI0 Give it some time, you will.
broadpath 7 months ago
I put a lot of thoght into this comment.
bobbybobsta 8 months ago
Chopin=Standard piano genius,
cage= Preparad piano genius
TheGoier 10 months ago 3
Prelude to a miss, or is that amiss. Depends on your point of view.
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Jusstfnsk8 1 year ago
a little cage every day is good for you
jamiebyrne77 1 year ago
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funnyfacerful 1 year ago
@jarblewarble I thought minimalist music came around sometime in the 1950s...
AyumuVanguard 1 year ago
@AyumuVanguard You might be right. I was trying to describe this song myself.
jarblewarble 1 year ago
It's minimalist music. Its main component is the length of each pause.
jarblewarble 1 year ago
The piece just instantly puts your mind at ease, into a type of dream-like trance.
mahler151 1 year ago
this piece completely has a melody.. its very simple actually.. why wish it were more than it is? haters, listen closer
releasethefrogs 1 year ago
load of bleedin rubbish..
budway1942 1 year ago
It's as if it sais everything by saying nothing at all.
DeadWhiteButterflies 1 year ago
BEAUTIFUL
hobbyoda 1 year ago
are you serious? Thats it, its just like a little kid hitting a bunch of random notes, music equivolent to modern art
MrBubbaloo 1 year ago
@MrBubbaloo not everybody understand modern art I suppose.
mightyafrowhitey 1 year ago
@mightyafrowhitey theres a difference between art and just stupid, what is he trying to say? Many hipster/artsy types take a look a something thats so different and strange that they assume its brillance, but this sounds like a apparent lack of creativity and skill. If im wrong tell me. Explain why this is good please.
MrBubbaloo 1 year ago
@MrBubbaloo I can't explain to you why this is good. only that I enjoy listening to it. I'm sure there are unfortunately people who say they like modern art just for the sake of trying to look "intellectual." menn of these people also critisize more traditional forms of music as sucking, which is equaly as ignorant. but I also think it's ignorant to write off anything you don't understand or appreciate as being "not good." bottom line, I just close my eyes and submit myself to the sounds.
mightyafrowhitey 1 year ago 3
@MrBubbaloo either you like it or you don't. but you can't go into any type of art or music having preconceived notions. whether it's the beatles or the balinese monkey chante, I just like what I like.
mightyafrowhitey 1 year ago
@MrBubbaloo
he is not trying to say anything
that is not the purpose of music
the best explaination i can offer is if you find a work of art beautiful
if it awakens some kind of feeling in you
if you feel it encapsulate you, and you want to exist in it
then it is good
there is no formula for calculating greatness in art
(nor do we need one - it would only serve to amuse the psuedo intellectual)
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funnyfacerful 1 year ago 37
@funnyfacerful Well said mate. Qft.
Fiorinasulaco 1 year ago
@funnyfacerful exactly. There doesn't have to be a message behind any form of art for it to be good, but generally it takes something great and amazing in an artists life to create something amazing.
I think that this is what gives more personal meaning to an artists own work, personal meanings should only matter to the maker, while remembering what they were feeling at the time.
warriorzin 1 year ago
@funnyfacerful Actually, all musicians are making statements. He is trying to communicate the meaningless of the universe without God to order it- trying to produce the sound of a universe that was generated at random by chance- thus this song as with others was actually written with each note being hit as randomly as possible.
Also, you say there is no formula for greatness in art, but you just gave a formula- "encapsulating music you want to exist in"!
tipsband04 10 months ago
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funnyfacerful 10 months ago
@tipsband04 @tipsband04 @tipsband04 I am a musician.
And i am not always trying to make a statement.
... well that was easy to refute.
It is not a concept he is trying to communicate -
but a feeling.
Your comment is a fine exemplification of the pseudo intellectual approach to music.
I hope you find it sufficiently amusing.
I on the other hand, find it exeedingly beautiful.
funnyfacerful 10 months ago
@funnyfacerful I have sympathy with you. I'm also a musician. I think John Cage's music is brilliant with consistency in its purpose to be ever-purposeless- it's statement that makes no statement. But I as a rational non-robot human being recognize that this music is based on a particular worldview known as materialism- a world found on chance and thus music founded on chance. So this kind of music is making a statement about who we are, namely that we are actually impersonal robots.
tipsband04 10 months ago
@funnyfacerful So, for example if a Christian who believes man is not a robot because he is made in the image of God were to create this kind of music- it would utterly oppose the basis for which he believes this world and mankind was founded. With this in mind- this music as with all forms of human communication is making a statement about the world- statements which are the ANTITHESIS of others. Does that make sense?
tipsband04 10 months ago
@tipsband04 Barely, but using a more convoluted example does not make it MORE sensical! It is more or less, the same point you made in your previous comment and which i have already refuted. Perhaps John himself can explain it too you.
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@funnyfacerful Actually, all musicians are making statements. He is trying to communicate the meaningless of the universe without God to order it- trying to produce the sound of a universe that was generated at random by chance- thus this song as with others was actually written with each note being hit as randomly as possible.
Also, you say there is no formula for greatness in art, but you just gave a formula- "encapsulating music you want to exist in"!
tipsband04 10 months ago
@MrBubbaloo everbody feels differently and nobodies feelings are more important than anybody elses.
therefore there truly is no good or bad in art. only opinion.
i hope i have made some sense
funnyfacerful 1 year ago
Ignorance would say .. this makes no sense - But I say - this makes more sense then the existence of ignorance and further
carnivourlocust 1 year ago 2
Stunning
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MiguelKertsman 1 year ago
unique!
adric137 1 year ago
Was this one of his pieces for "prepared" piano?
newdaydawnsong 1 year ago 3
@newdaydawnsong I think it is prepared piano
Falzetto 1 year ago
@newdaydawnsong Yes this is a prepared piano piece. I don't listen to much
of his music these days but he is still one of my favorite composers and persons to ever have lived. I really love his philosophy of music and life in general.
bpwonderkid 1 year ago
never heard of John Cage, and i've never heard so much random chord progressions, i always expect a different note, I love how he plays the notes.
S3bz3r0 2 years ago 9
@S3bz3r0 What is so surprising? there are only four different sound. I don`t understand what is your expectation. random chord progressions? peace and love.
GryllusSamu 1 year ago
Terrific! Love it
valerius85bis 2 years ago
hermoso
ruvagada 2 years ago
aum
karoloandria 2 years ago
thsts thats really great thanks
gregaria137 2 years ago