W końcu ,jakiś angielsko jezyczny film który pokazuje prawdę o jednej z najtragiczniejszej w skutkach kampanii ,,I word war''.O której zachód nadal zbyt wiele nie wie .Dzieki Domen558,dobrze że ktoś jeszcze próbuje walczyć i ukazać nasz ból i tragedie przy okazji nasz honor ,poświecenie, i o danie dla ojczyzny .W końcu po tym względem byliśmy najlepsi wśród aliantów nie ma co ukrywać ,no może jeszcze jugosłowiańscy partyzanci w późniejszych latach .
Most people, because of the persistent nazi propaganda from 1939 do get the situation within the Polish Armed Forces in 1939 in reverse!
The mounted infnatry or the so--called cavalry was equiped in an adequate or better manner to deal with the German tanks and airplanes. The Poles failed, however, their own G.I.'s or General Infnatrymen as shown by the Cwiklice massacre -- they tried to defend themselves from the panzer attack with a few ant--personnel cannons and anti--tank rifles! It sucked!
In fact most of the Germans armour forever lost in Poland was lost due to #1) mounted infnatry's anti--tank guns, and #2) bombing by "Los B," Polish bombers. The losses in equipment were substantial enough to make the nazi Germans postpone the French campaign to 1940.
#3) Poles knew how to train and provide adequate equipment to the shock troops such as 2 mechanized divisions, cavalry or mounted infantry brigades, circa 170 major tankmen, but gave mostly rifles & non-AT cannons regular G.I.'s!
1) Many of the 1st line quality Polish warplanes were moved to isolated fields, and the Germans destroyed some older planes during their surprise attack. Most Polish warplanes survived this attack.
2) Polish cavalry NEVER charged Germans tanks with sabers and lance. They were not stupid and were heavily armed with AT guns etc. They did successfully charge German Infantry and German Infantry frequently refused to advance across open terrain without German armor support.
So, 1) you still keep those 1.Line-Quality planes, in isolated fields, now? How many, SAVED? 2)They were 'Not stupid' you say, but Poles took a metaphor literally...That's stupid. // Fighting Germany (instead of finishing the 1920 job by destroying Sov Russia, jointly, along the Wehrmacht... How stupidly suisidal was that?
I have noticed on the US History Channel; the Brits and the French are in denile!
The Poles published a booklet with conclusions from the Polish Campaign'1939 in Polish, French, and English.
The Brits and the French refused to read it!
The French Campaign was lost before it even began.
The Polish military doctrine was based on counterattack! The Brittish and French on defense, and ... even the Soviets understood that defensive doctrine meant a nearly automatic defeat!
The poster was a poster used by the nazi Germans to convince the Poles that however terrible the German occupation would be, the Brits were traitors and would never help the Poles.
The Poles have never bought the nazi propaganda because it was ... German.
Both French and British missed the spear head movement and the massive air--support of the fground foces unknown before that lead to the Blitz Krieg during the 1st 6 months of the German--Soviet armed conflict during World War Two.
However, pure Blitz Krieg meant that the foces left behind could not double--envelope the enemy; therefore, during the battles of Bialystok and Grodno in spite of great defeat and huge number of Soviet POW's taken, around 250,000 'Soviets' escaped!
The French Campaign was lost before it did begin because the British and the French refused to read the booklet written by the Poles with the conclusions from the September'1939 Campaign. The French and the British believed inpure defense; the Poles did believe in counterattack; and the Germans believed in pure attack only!
UK belived that the Poles lost because they did counterattack and two army groups got double--enveloped by around 21SEP39, and the French because some Polish forces were
Th war in France was over before it did begin because the French and the British did refuse to listen to the Poles. The Poles wrote a booklet with conclusions drawn from the September'1939 Campaign and translated into English and French as well as passed onto the French and the British.
Both British and the French refused to read it.
The French believed that the Poles lost because they deployed some substantial forces to the border, and the British that because Poles did counterattack and did
Niemcy chieli zaatakowac Francje w 1939; ale po tym jak stracili conajmniej 1/3 czolgow, 1/4 na zawsze, w Polsce, nawet Hitler, choc z nie checia, musial pozwolic na przelozenie ataku na 1940.
Realistycznie myslac, Brytyjczycy nie mogli pomoc Polsce -- oni do roku 1942 latali dwuplatowcami.
Co moze bolec, to po tym jak w 38 w ich kinach wychwalali Polskie wojsko jako nowoczesne, to teraz opluwaja; ale od anglosaksoni (spojrzec wystarczy na Dicka Chainiego) to chamstwo a z chama nie ma pana!!!
Jeszcze większą klęskę poniosła cała niemiecka 1. Dywizja Pancerna w walkach pod Kiernozią. Została ona tam w dniu 16 września pokonana a następnie jej oddziały pancerne zostały okrążone i częściowo rozgromione (16 - 19 IX) - mam kilka fotek wraków czołgów z tamtych walk.
Te spod Ruszek wygladają kiepsko - wszystkie są rozsadzone (choć może nie w 100% - ale taki czołg nadaje się i tak tylko do złomowania).
Ale te spod Kiernozi - uwierzcie - wyglądają jeszcze gorzej.
Bitwa pod Ruszkami została przez Polaków wygrana - było to 16 IX (walki nad Bzurą).
Następnego dnia polscy saperzy wysadzili wszystkie wraki czołgów niemieckich jakie znaleźli na pobojowisku, żeby się upewnić że nie zostaną naprawione.
Stąd tak dużo zniszczonych czołgów w porównaniu do całkowitych strat (29 straconych - w tym 23 kompletnie rozwalone = zniszczone).
W tej walce jedna polska bateria - 4 haubice 100mm - wystrzeliła 250 pocisków i zniszczyła 22 niemieckie czołgi oraz 30 motocykli. Dodatkowo 1 czołg zniszczyło działko ppanc. Łącznie Niemcy stracili 23 zniszczone czołgi i 6 uszkodzonych - co potwierdza dowódca pułku niem. - ppłk. Eberbach.
Jeśli chodzi o straty to taka ciekawostka - foty w 8:23, 8:27 i 9:04 przedstawiają czołgi z 35. Pułku Czołgów 4. Dywizji Pancernej, zniszczone w boju pod Ruszkami.
Ciekawy fotoreportaż. Osamotniona i pozostawiona na pastwę losu Ojczyzna.
W tym czasie gdy Niemcy
(tak Niemcy, nie naziści) masakrowali polskie miasta i wsie, Brytyjczycy wypowiedzieli im wojnę, zrzucając ulotki nad niemieckimi miastami o powstrzymanie dzialań zbrojnych.
Tak, walczyliśmy osamotnieni na trzech frontach:
z Niemcami, Rosjanami i Slowakami, którzy jak hieny cmentarne wdarli się na terytorium Rzeczpospolitej.
W końcu ,jakiś angielsko jezyczny film który pokazuje prawdę o jednej z najtragiczniejszej w skutkach kampanii ,,I word war''.O której zachód nadal zbyt wiele nie wie .Dzieki Domen558,dobrze że ktoś jeszcze próbuje walczyć i ukazać nasz ból i tragedie przy okazji nasz honor ,poświecenie, i o danie dla ojczyzny .W końcu po tym względem byliśmy najlepsi wśród aliantów nie ma co ukrywać ,no może jeszcze jugosłowiańscy partyzanci w późniejszych latach .
LoupReg 2 years ago 6
Most people, because of the persistent nazi propaganda from 1939 do get the situation within the Polish Armed Forces in 1939 in reverse!
The mounted infnatry or the so--called cavalry was equiped in an adequate or better manner to deal with the German tanks and airplanes. The Poles failed, however, their own G.I.'s or General Infnatrymen as shown by the Cwiklice massacre -- they tried to defend themselves from the panzer attack with a few ant--personnel cannons and anti--tank rifles! It sucked!
SkibaFelix 2 years ago
In fact most of the Germans armour forever lost in Poland was lost due to #1) mounted infnatry's anti--tank guns, and #2) bombing by "Los B," Polish bombers. The losses in equipment were substantial enough to make the nazi Germans postpone the French campaign to 1940.
#3) Poles knew how to train and provide adequate equipment to the shock troops such as 2 mechanized divisions, cavalry or mounted infantry brigades, circa 170 major tankmen, but gave mostly rifles & non-AT cannons regular G.I.'s!
SkibaFelix 2 years ago
Well it looks like they broke all their "commandments."
globfrob 2 years ago 5
1) Many of the 1st line quality Polish warplanes were moved to isolated fields, and the Germans destroyed some older planes during their surprise attack. Most Polish warplanes survived this attack.
2) Polish cavalry NEVER charged Germans tanks with sabers and lance. They were not stupid and were heavily armed with AT guns etc. They did successfully charge German Infantry and German Infantry frequently refused to advance across open terrain without German armor support.
christof139 2 years ago 5
So, 1) you still keep those 1.Line-Quality planes, in isolated fields, now? How many, SAVED? 2)They were 'Not stupid' you say, but Poles took a metaphor literally...That's stupid. // Fighting Germany (instead of finishing the 1920 job by destroying Sov Russia, jointly, along the Wehrmacht... How stupidly suisidal was that?
amadrys77 2 years ago
Btw - please watch this video in high quality ;)
Domen558 2 years ago
Hi siim663, sorry for such a late answer.
The name of this song is "Day 69".
Domen558 2 years ago
wahts the song name
siim663 2 years ago
I have noticed on the US History Channel; the Brits and the French are in denile!
The Poles published a booklet with conclusions from the Polish Campaign'1939 in Polish, French, and English.
The Brits and the French refused to read it!
The French Campaign was lost before it even began.
The Polish military doctrine was based on counterattack! The Brittish and French on defense, and ... even the Soviets understood that defensive doctrine meant a nearly automatic defeat!
SkibaFelix 2 years ago 10
The poster was a poster used by the nazi Germans to convince the Poles that however terrible the German occupation would be, the Brits were traitors and would never help the Poles.
The Poles have never bought the nazi propaganda because it was ... German.
The Polish traditional view is:
Outmost enemy of Poland is ... Germany!
Second worst enemy is ... Russia!
Everyone else, it depends.
SkibaFelix 2 years ago
...to the border.
Both French and British missed the spear head movement and the massive air--support of the fground foces unknown before that lead to the Blitz Krieg during the 1st 6 months of the German--Soviet armed conflict during World War Two.
However, pure Blitz Krieg meant that the foces left behind could not double--envelope the enemy; therefore, during the battles of Bialystok and Grodno in spite of great defeat and huge number of Soviet POW's taken, around 250,000 'Soviets' escaped!
SkibaFelix 2 years ago
The French Campaign was lost before it did begin because the British and the French refused to read the booklet written by the Poles with the conclusions from the September'1939 Campaign. The French and the British believed inpure defense; the Poles did believe in counterattack; and the Germans believed in pure attack only!
UK belived that the Poles lost because they did counterattack and two army groups got double--enveloped by around 21SEP39, and the French because some Polish forces were
SkibaFelix 2 years ago
Th war in France was over before it did begin because the French and the British did refuse to listen to the Poles. The Poles wrote a booklet with conclusions drawn from the September'1939 Campaign and translated into English and French as well as passed onto the French and the British.
Both British and the French refused to read it.
The French believed that the Poles lost because they deployed some substantial forces to the border, and the British that because Poles did counterattack and did
SkibaFelix 2 years ago
Germans always need Russians to conquer Poland.
German blitzkrieg with Soviet support in 17 september 1939.
ferdovit 2 years ago
That's true. Both times we were occupied it was by the germans AND russians at the same time.
globfrob 2 years ago
whats the song name what is playing please tell :P
siim663 2 years ago
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SkibaFelix 3 years ago
Elgrande555, write your comments in English, please.
Domen558 3 years ago
Niemcy chieli zaatakowac Francje w 1939; ale po tym jak stracili conajmniej 1/3 czolgow, 1/4 na zawsze, w Polsce, nawet Hitler, choc z nie checia, musial pozwolic na przelozenie ataku na 1940.
Realistycznie myslac, Brytyjczycy nie mogli pomoc Polsce -- oni do roku 1942 latali dwuplatowcami.
Co moze bolec, to po tym jak w 38 w ich kinach wychwalali Polskie wojsko jako nowoczesne, to teraz opluwaja; ale od anglosaksoni (spojrzec wystarczy na Dicka Chainiego) to chamstwo a z chama nie ma pana!!!
SkibaFelix 3 years ago 2
Jeszcze większą klęskę poniosła cała niemiecka 1. Dywizja Pancerna w walkach pod Kiernozią. Została ona tam w dniu 16 września pokonana a następnie jej oddziały pancerne zostały okrążone i częściowo rozgromione (16 - 19 IX) - mam kilka fotek wraków czołgów z tamtych walk.
Te spod Ruszek wygladają kiepsko - wszystkie są rozsadzone (choć może nie w 100% - ale taki czołg nadaje się i tak tylko do złomowania).
Ale te spod Kiernozi - uwierzcie - wyglądają jeszcze gorzej.
Domen558 3 years ago
Bitwa pod Ruszkami została przez Polaków wygrana - było to 16 IX (walki nad Bzurą).
Następnego dnia polscy saperzy wysadzili wszystkie wraki czołgów niemieckich jakie znaleźli na pobojowisku, żeby się upewnić że nie zostaną naprawione.
Stąd tak dużo zniszczonych czołgów w porównaniu do całkowitych strat (29 straconych - w tym 23 kompletnie rozwalone = zniszczone).
Domen558 3 years ago
W tej walce jedna polska bateria - 4 haubice 100mm - wystrzeliła 250 pocisków i zniszczyła 22 niemieckie czołgi oraz 30 motocykli. Dodatkowo 1 czołg zniszczyło działko ppanc. Łącznie Niemcy stracili 23 zniszczone czołgi i 6 uszkodzonych - co potwierdza dowódca pułku niem. - ppłk. Eberbach.
Domen558 3 years ago
Witam! Dzięki wszystkim za komentarze.
Jeśli chodzi o straty to taka ciekawostka - foty w 8:23, 8:27 i 9:04 przedstawiają czołgi z 35. Pułku Czołgów 4. Dywizji Pancernej, zniszczone w boju pod Ruszkami.
Domen558 3 years ago
Powinieneś dodać więcej o niemieckich stratach. Np. Czy zdobywając Westerplatte cofnęli by się przy stratach rożnych 27 ludzi?
Dlaczego najlepszy niemiecki gen. Guderian nie chwali się bitwą pod Wizną?
Dlaczego "niezwyciężeni" Niemcy musieli używać cywili jako ludzkie tarcze?
2pepe22 3 years ago 2
Ciekawy fotoreportaż. Osamotniona i pozostawiona na pastwę losu Ojczyzna.
W tym czasie gdy Niemcy
(tak Niemcy, nie naziści) masakrowali polskie miasta i wsie, Brytyjczycy wypowiedzieli im wojnę, zrzucając ulotki nad niemieckimi miastami o powstrzymanie dzialań zbrojnych.
Tak, walczyliśmy osamotnieni na trzech frontach:
z Niemcami, Rosjanami i Slowakami, którzy jak hieny cmentarne wdarli się na terytorium Rzeczpospolitej.
szym79 3 years ago 2
dobra robota sama prawda o ktorej cicho
rabitom 3 years ago 3