(9/12) Battlefield I The Battle of Berlin Episode 12 (GDH)

[tansmshel]

Battle for Berlin

[nicesinging1]

What is the difference between SS Panzer Army and Panzer Army? Which army had better soldiers, weapons and training?

[tjhoenecke]

@nicesinging1 Generally speaking, Waffen SS units were superior to Wehrmacht units. They were all fanatical Nazis, they were elite forces, and they got the best equipment, supplies and reinforcements first.

[suspicious35]

@tjhoenecke and the selection process and training were really tough. That said, near the end of the war they lowered they're standards.

[warLock21X]

this commentary is absolutely brilliant

[nicesinging1]

I think Zhukov is one of the greatest generals in WWII. But recently, I started to have some doubts. Shouldn't great generals be able to win battles with minimal casualties? It seems like Zhukov or any Soviet generals for that matter was always willing to win battles at any costs. They don't seem to care much about how much troops are lost as long as the battle is won.

[ObssesedNuker]

@nicesinging1 Zhukov is rather like the US General Ulysses Grant: both fully understood the nature of warfare, accepted it, and used it too their advantage. This would include the horrible aspects. And yes, Zhukov had his failings... Operation Mars, for instance, was rather unsuccessful and came nowhere near in achieving its objectives.

[utuhamuha]

@nicesinging1 Zhukov doesn't care about human losses, it perfectly knew, Stalin Will not forgive him if the battle of berlin will fail will make. It is possible to tell, that the Soviet army has won war owing to huge manpower resources. sorry for my bad english

[tjhoenecke]

@nicesinging1 Communists don't care about casualties -- the individual counts for nothing. However, great generalship isn't really about keeping casualties low, it's about achieving decisive victories. Of course, decisive victories tend to save lives by shortening the war, but the main concern of the Red Army commanders was to deliver what Stalin demanded so they wouldn't get shot. This bred an indifference to casualties all the way down to NCO level.

[StasTarasov]

@tjhoenecke what an idiot XD

[tjhoenecke]

@StasTarasov ARGH! Skewered by your rapier wit! (I'm using the word "rapier" here as a noun, not as an adjective.)

[maxwebolver]

Roosevelt surrendered everything to Stalin and his commies-gangsters friends...

[WatcherMovie007]

Hitler felt excited to hear FDR's death, hoping for American morality to go down, when the Americans were already pressing into Germany, with high morale and expectation. Yep, sure makes sense Hitler.

[msn4n]

@WatcherMovie007 what america done in WII ?

[faokim]

@msn4n

are you uneducated or just plain ignorant? 

[msn4n]

@faokim atom bomb on civilians, air raid on civilians or ?

[bombarderoazul]

half a million shells in 30 minutes, WOW! 7:20

[whitesox889]

What is a panzergrenadier?

[2bn442RCT]

Armored infantry or you could say a light panzer division.

[KingSkullfuck]

@2bn442RCT I was under the impression that it was more like mechanised infantry with large amounts of light vehicles like half-tracks. A highly mobile force of infantry.

[2bn442RCT]

@KingSkullfuck Armored or mechanized whatever word you want to describe half-tracks. Yes they were much more mople than Panzer Divisions. Had a large component of Stugs and stuff like that.

[bawad01]

@2bn442RCT I think panzergrenadier theoretically has heavier equipment than a motorized division. Grenadier divisions have a 3:1 (i think) ratio of infantry units to armor. panzer has 3:1 armor to infantry. Panzergrenadier has 1:1, as in its half half. I think the idea of panzergrenadier divisions are very unique and I think were only ever used by Germany in WW2. correct me if I'm wrong.

[bleushift]

@whitesox889

infantry bound together with light armoured units

like halftracks or other light armoured vehicles

armoured infantry basicly

dutch stil use this as pantser infantry infantry thats gets transported and supported with light apc tanks

[TheDevilsBusiness]

@whitesox889 Originally Panzer Divisions theoretically had 2 armor Reg and one mechanized Infantry for flank support. Panzer Grenadier theoretically had two Mechanized or motorized Infantry regiments and an Armor Division, though there was wide variation. Infantry cleared the way, Panzer exploited the hole, Panzer Grenadier provided flank support to the Panzers as the tanks pushed to the objective. Luftwaffe was long range Artillery. In theory.

[seienchin88]

@whitesox889

Originally the infantry of the german panzer armies, but later the name was applied to a huge number of troops, which were in panzer armies or motorized infantry in general.

[Attila709]

Why did Hitler bother holding onto Norway at this time? Evacuating those troops would have been tough but could have giving him another 12 division to use for the Berlin defense.

[HoustonGD]

Hitler was convinced that the Allies would land in Norway. Some of these notions were based on bogus intelligence feed to the Germans by British intelligence

[Attila709]

Yeah I know that, but it 1945 what value was Norway to him? You can say the same about Corland but at least that was tying down some large Soviet forces.

[diadorim1234]

because Hitler was mentally ill at this stage

[tropickman]

Did he have syphilis?

[diadorim1234]

No Hitlet didnt have syphilis, also he didnt have only 1 testicle.

[Xeonophon]

Hitler was a retard at warfare.

[calvinhobbesliker2]

@Attila709 I think the Soviets had already invaded northern Norway

[alanheath]

On my channel I have film of the battlefield as it is today. One place - where the group shot of Zhukov with his officers - is clearly visible.