I Am Sitting In A Video Room 1

[Taktiklnewk]

sucks ass

[Taktiklnewk]

Vid sucks yoh

[rg0057]

You did not eliminate all human qualities. Keep going.

[canzona]

@rg0057 It's so true! Failed experiment.

[ryanmshepard92]

@mybrotherbeelo OK?

[darkshewbacca]

you talk kind of like quentin tarantino

[TheBraveKitten]

wow this took him a year!

[genericwoods]

Alvin Lucier must be proud

[isaacracket]

Oh come on. It's not like he is getting paid for this. This is pretty cool. If you think about it, that's how we're losing our human touch by repeatedly using technology for every single thing. Thumbs up!

[feoray]

@isaacracket All this tells me is everyone needs to use lossless codecs.

[doolittlesy1]

i consider this one of the biggest wastes of time ever OMG!

[TheMgdandme]

at first, i was like... LAME... but i started at like video 800... Now i get it... and it's kinda neat.

[N9NEseventeen]

i didnt understand at first

GO TO THE LINK

haha cool!

[bluevelvet931]

I've heard this experiment done before. "I am sitting in a room...."

[upinarms79]

This is a pretty cool project.

[alarik95]

you fail

[canzona]

@UncleVegetable I wouldn't wish that on anyone... it's a very slow transition! Just watch the mix I made and you'll get the idea! :)

[ISayTeamFred]

Kool

[bigt4616]

im going to watch em all

[emo]

fake

[inu5450]

@emo Why the hell would this be fake? You think this shit isn't possible? You obviously don't know how video ripping works, idiot

[emo]

@inu5450 Fake and gay.

[tekmrs]

@emo I'm a cannibal troll, careful, you tiny car are about to be invaded by two camels with no pancake mix.

[SemagGnav]

how the hell do u rip from youtibe??

[epicduckeh6]

uh ok

[KawaiixSama]

Okay, WTF? For a moment there, I thought I was death.

[nlicky]

Kudos on your project. I saw the 1000th one, and that is a good testament on how lossy video and audio quality can be degraded by ripping and encoding again.

[TypeZero303DevilFish]

ur smart? lol for figuring this out? lol i think its genius

[timskeezy07]

I was really confused when i watched your 1000 video. I went down by hundreds (or as close to the next hundred down i was able to find in the suggested videos) & by the time i got to this one, all i could say was "Wow." Such a cool project. I don't know a whole heck of a lot about video, sound, or the mechanics of editing the two, but this was really interesting, to say the least. Thumbs up. :]

[UncleVegetable]

This is a great concept. I have a Cd of Alvin Lucier's original vocal version and I love it. I'm gonna watch all 1000 of these videos!

[Sushiarushi]

im an artist and i find this creative and meaningful. 

[nopezarmien]

thats some cool shit man! .

Like.. (:

[luvkirby4ever]

That's just awesome! I've realized before that the quality of things decrease as they get repeadily ripped, but I never thought about if you did it 1000 times. I actually watched your end result. Man, that was pretty scary, actually. Thanks for the experiment! :D

[ipwntillidan]

i saw the 1000th video first and though "what the mother fucking fuck is this" but after looking at your profile and watching the first video, i understand it and find it very interesting.

[MrDonedatta]

this is fake.

[creativebrutality]

This is really good. Good job and thank you for the demo of this, its really cool to actually see step by step what happends. :)

[billaras51]

I did not understand a fucking thing.Please explain :D

[luvkirby4ever]

@billaras51

Canzona started with this video. He uploaded it to Youtube. He will now download it back onto his computer. Then he will upload that video as #2. He will do (and did) this 1000 times. When you upload and download videos and music from off of the internet, the quality of the video goes down each time. The point of this is to see if both the video portion and the sound portion of the movie will eventually be destoyed if downloaded too much. This theory affects movies and songs

[Nodee19297]

Nice!

[cxjiek]

awesome project

lots of work

[lochnessmonster1231]

FOLLOW THESE STEPS 1. COVER YOUR MOUTH WITH YOUR HAND 2. WHISPER A WISH INTO YOUR HAND 3.POST THIS ON TO TEN OTHER COMMENTS 4. NOW LOOK AT YOUR HAND

[affei1]

Youtube makes Peoble famous so all i can do after watching the video

|Please Wait|

is too say Good Luck :D

like that experiment.

[itsgoind]

WTF I UNDERSTAND NOW

[JRCrowley]

Very interesting project. As a musician, I'm very interested in this from the audio side. Digital is fraught with difficulties when it comes to ripping, converting, copying and so on.

[canzona]

@JRCrowley Not to mention auto-tune, over compression, poor mastering, digital dithering, word clocks, MIDI synchronization, phantom power, sound bleed, speaker/room acoustics, cable interference, and the 1001 other things that can go wrong when dealing with digital audio. Transcoding seems easy in comparison! :)

[Clarke05]

this is a very interesting experiment ive done the same with pictures

[Evi1M4chine]

Why the hell would you convert it to MP4 FROM MP4? It ALREADY IS MP4 (H.264)! There is no point to re-encoding, other than epic fail.

[canzona]

@Evi1M4chine when I started this project YouTube was still using .flac, then switched to H.264 while I was in the 600s. When they switched to H.264, I encoded using the "MP4 Improved" settings on my ripper, which are a different codec than H.264. Admittedly the change is subtle, but still noticeable after enough iterations.

[mudkipNDS]

@canzona Really? Youtube actually used the FLAC codec for their audio? I find that hard to believe.

[AndrewFaulds]

@canzona .flv.

.flac is a lossless audio codec.

[canzona]

@AndrewFaulds Yes, you're correct, I was thinking FLV but typed FLAC.

[baldmanwithBIGlegs]

thats cool! love the broken artifact

[TheYoungGuitarist]

i dont get it..

[Flophole]

I would have had such a hard time resisting to re-record it after stumbling on "characteristics" :P

[AnttiApinaPro]

Excellent!

[lemonsyay1]

damn it, I can't get the first one to play

[TheCivilEngineer22]

hi nice experiment really like it :) but did you download and upload 1000 times or did you create a macro?

[Guitareben]

wow you did it :O

[slvr99]

why are you acting like the cameras not there?



[CodysFavorites]

very good idea

[SalemXIII]

A compilation of the degrading process would be cool to watch, but I am sure you are trying to put that together too.

[olganair]

mind blowing experiment

[espanholeceia]

what a moron

[DujorgePT]

ALELUIA! lol

[EktraKrispy]

why the hell is this in the music area?

[canzona]

@EktraKrispy valid question. (1) because there's no "video art" section. (2) because I'm first and foremost a musician (3) because the sound is just as important as the video and (4) because I like confusing people.

[tekmrs]

@canzona this made no fucking sense. There's no music in this video, it has audio but you're no musician in this video, so logically you put it in the wrong section. I suggest you to put it into Film and Animation because it looks kinda like a VLOG to me.

[stephansawesome]

@EktraKrispy Alvin Lucier is an experimental composer. This, too, is considered music.

[TaterGumfries]

@EktraKrispy Also, Alvin Lucier was a composer, and this piece is based on Lucier's original sound only work.

[trixie10121]

first of all youtube doesnt allow duplicate uploads if would have to be different every time so this is all fake he did this himself using some kind of software or editing tools I know this to be fact because i tried to upload the same video about ten times and nine were rejected so dont be fooled by this...if you dont believe me go and try uploading the same video more than once it will be rejected as a duplicate

[canzona]

@trixie10121 but it's not the same video. each iteration has been trancoded twice (once to .flac/H.264, once to mp4). Plus I named them separately each time. Look at my "My Videos" page if you don't believe me.

[hajimekishi]

とりあえず乙ｗ

[Ocliot]

oh google hates you now for eating it's servers and Bandwidth !

[prinny081]

you look like morgan spurlock

[rhalas]

Interesting project.

[JPizzle1122]

With all due respect... it bears mentioning that the quality of this original isn't even good - and he's compressing it to a lossy codec each time before uploading.

I'm pretty sure if I uploaded an 1080p video, and downloaded it 1000x over... using a high-quality container... you'd still be able to recognize the image. A great experiment... but you didn't give it the best-case scenario.

Then again, it doesn't seem like that was your point.

[canzona]

@JPizzle1122 you are completely right -- I was not particularly careful with keeping continuity with the saved codecs. While I always saved to medium-quality mp4, YouTube changed codecs mid-project (in the 600-700s) and I didn't keep close notes. You're also right that I don't consider that the point.

This original uploaded video was close-to-lossless MP4 however. 280MBs for a 42 sec clip!

[JPizzle1122]

@canzona 280mb seems like a high compression rate... but the degradation here was terrible after just 50-uploads it seems.

Either way, thanks for doing all this, it is a valuable little piece on generational signal lost, and the terrors of YouTube encodes :)

[AvianAzn]

@canzona you should use a video downloading website to download what you see. youtube streams flash video (flv) which youtube will take when you upload. That will take out half of the transcoding you have produced...

[yscreth55]

@JPizzle1122 holy crap I watch ur microwave videos. first time I see a famous youtuber commenting!

[JPizzle1122]

@yscreth55 - You mustn't watch many of my videos then - I comment on them 100x a day.

[yscreth55]

@JPizzle1122 I can't believe you actually replied!! wow! I actually watch alot of your videos but I don't have time to read the comments because there are so many other videos of yours I haven't gotten to. XD

[MothBucket]

People are saying 'oh, this guy needs a life'.

What?

Okay, so he downloaded and re-uploaded this 1000 times in one year. Rounding UP that's only 4 times a day, and that doesn't exactly take long, does it? Not for such a short video, especially one that keeps decreasing in quality. Guy probably spent less time online than the clowns on here telling him to 'get a girlfriend' do.

[canzona]

@MothBucket my girlfriend seconds your comments, MB!

[SpriJones]

@MothBucket oh just freakin' great. thanks for nothing, MB! NOW how are we supposed to belittle him to feel better about ourselves?!?! COMMUNIST!!! *goes off to make fun of tron guy*

[JRCrowley]

@MothBucket Good points. I ignore those clowns more than 1000 times in one year.

[BrokenBjartur]

Dude. I am curious. Did you write a program to do this automatically? Or did you just do it yourself?...

[hyland94115]

Love the connection to Lucier’s “I Am Sitting in a Video Room”.

[tagno25]

So you converted it 2000 times (youtube flash rip, mp4, repeat). You should have just downloaded the MP4 from the youtube HTML5 video.

[SecondCityChamp]

You've got way too much time on your hands bro... I would say get a girlfriend but you probably can't. Get a girlfriend.

[emilkristensen]

get a girlfriend!

[iDenmark]

I think he used a program or then he had to much sparetime.

[districtK9]

i Seriously hope this guy used some batch scripts or macros to do this.

if he did all of this by hand, holy crap, you need more hobbies.

i digress, it's an interesting experiment and i diggit

[aurash91]

what's the point of this I don't get it

[GeorgePresents]

@aurash91 It's to show how with each upload, YouTube compresses a video. So taking each video after it's been compressed and reuploading it 1000 times one after another shows the end result of it having zero quality.

[elitisty]

The people behind popular video-ripper-sites like liveleak, collegehumour and failblog.org should be forced to watch this entire sequence of videos to see what they are doing to the internet.

[junglemap]

I looked at video #1000 and its pretty cool concept, I wish there was more original stuff like this on Youtube

[sentienceISi]

a asshole stop using up the worlds bandwidth on this stupid shit. just make 1, 500, and 1000. delete all others.

[rolfnoduk]

@sentienceISi all the world's bandwidth? you underestimate the internet, you underestimate it greatly, sir - 'tis barely a scratch ;-)

[sentienceISi]

@rolfnoduk enought people do enough stupid things like this, it adds up.

[brunfist]

Yeah And AVGN nerd already did this. BE MORE ORIGINAL.

[runie360]

@brunfist Did he really?

Can you tell me the name of the video or how I can find it?

I've been searching but can't find anything.

[brunfist]

what's a "charahishtic"?

[esoteric2000]

AVGN did it!!!

[trovardo]

i really hope u used an action recording program to do all that..

[jointhecarpool]

Interesting project! Thanks for the dedication to see it through.

[foobarmaru]

Hey there, cool idea.  I saw a link to the thousandth iteration on Fark and just wante to let you know that this is a badass project. The final result was very interesting.

[yexey]

The message is pretty stupid.

I was hoping it would be something like CP, to test the limit of what constitutes identifiable material.

[canzona]

@yexey Agreed, the message is sort of milquetoast. Because I was trying to stay as close to the original as possible, it was limiting as to what I could say. It gets the point across I suppose.

[teemuruskeepaa]

@canzona We can create real culture online too. It isn't necessarily just a tool for a selfish fetishism.

[7ypographicalError]

I MADE IT

[slackermansux]

NERD!

[focra]

Good to see other people are exploring Lucier's piece. Looking forward to how far this one goes.