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  • This is a trailer for the program "Blood On The Carpet", I watched tis program on Youtube and it is worth watching. I did always wonder why we have two darts bodies and also whay they don't like each other much. And the snooker program shown was called "Pot Black", a program I loved a lot on the ABC TV here in Australia in the late 1970's and early 1980's.

  • I don't understand why people get so uptight about who watches BDO or PDC??? In the end its Darts (depending on your view)... the thing which annoys me about PDC is the crowds.. sometimes they remind me of rowdy football fans (the bad variety). Who cares about which orgnisation pays more if they were paying me the money I wouldn't complain but they are not why bitch about who pays out more?

  • @marky437 and Darts whatever form it takes on is enjoyable :D

  • I was looking for a band called "The Darts" and came to this video. Funny how it mentions Reupert Murdoch and he is big in the news the the last few days.

  • my parents being bloody posh i didnt get to watch it hahahaha good one

  • can't believe how stupid George is the guy says they should be humble we ain't stars yet he builds his mansion like a dart rooms shaped like flights and has a stain glass dart board over his door and became an entertainer what a hypocrite

  • Who is the presenter? I don't recognise the voice? Sounds like a presenter from some crappy Student Union radio station, you know trying to sound all grown up and professional!!!

  • Bobby George is a fool

  • I think the thing is from Bobby Georges point of view he had made his money from playing already so it didnt matter if he lefted or stayed...

    But for the younger players having no where to play and not alot of prize money is very bad...

    It now seems the PDC are trying to make lower level darts more monied and more comps through Rileys which imho can only be a good thing and will improve the whole sport of darts!

  • Darts are popular in the States, but in pockets. Midwest, New England... they never televise anything until 6 to 8 months later! And, Yes! We know Bristow, Taylor, (my boy) John Part, Barney, Roland, Painter, and on and on. Look up the ADO, or the MVDO, SCDL, you'll find a few guys you've seen on tele. We may suck, but at least we're trying (just like curling).

  • lol at end didnt get to bloody watch it, tell me sumone is darts big in america? as in do they know who taylor and bristow are

  • Martin Adams average in the final 95 per 3 darts, taylors average 106,

  • the bdo is stuck in the eighties, thats why all the best players play in the pdc, bdo made a profit last year of £16,000, the pdc over a million with 5 million in prize money, most players use the bdo as a stepping stone to get to the pdc, averages per 3 darts in pdc are about 10 higher thats because more players can earn a living and don't do it part time, olly croft is very much holding the bdo back for his own selfish reasons.

  • @AbbiandAndy - Hey dickhead, how do you know what profit BDO makes, you got access to it's business records or something?

  • @badboy10ize - Hey Dickhead £16,000 was the figure they released as there profit.

  • @AbbiandAndy - Ok inbred asshole, many thanks for the update.

  • although the bdo has some good matches all comps are irrelevant as taylor would hammer any bdo member any day of the week!

  • @5eurocups2005

    keep telling yourself that and you may just believe it. The PDC world Championship is the only title that matters.

    While the PDC is moving the sport forward, attracting more fans, paying players more money the BDO is still stuck in the dark ages with two TV tournaments.

    Also the PDC doesnt steal any players. Players leave the BDO with there own free-will. Mervin King, Webster, Whitlock etc have all said it is the best thing they could of done..

  • the BDO world championship has more viewers as it is on terrestrial tv. PDC has much more TV tournaments. The PDC gets much bigger live crowds at there events. The Premier League sell 8000 tickets in the Livepool Echo arena. Do you think the BDO could get anywhere near that?

    I remember seeing BDO event on setanta last year and there was about 100 people watching. LOL Martin Adams is just a paper champion.

    Oh and the BDO will sell up to the PDC within 2 years..

  • @kobashi100 The PDC Gets bigger crowds because it is in bigger places,BDO is at Lakeside which has a small capacity! I think PDC is better than BDO but I Think BDO Has loads of great players and a good championship

  • yeah but the PDC can sell out them venue's. If you put the PDO tournaments there they would struggle to sell tickets. Like I saide before, the PDC has attracted new fans. It has gave the players opportunity to become stars. The Management in the BDO have failed big time. Two TV tournaments every 12 months is a joke. Players can not become popualr without TV!!

  • @kobashi100 Ya I Think PDC Sell out because they have got Barnaveld and Taylor, Who really do the BDO got? You're right, its a disgrace there is only two tournaments on TV, Olly Croft really fucked BDO up.

  • @5eurocups2005 Taylor was a hasbeen?

  • Just about every darts player, amateur or professional has been in the BDO at some point or another. All the super leagues, womens and youth darts around the country are BDO run, but after the darts split in 1993, the PDC has been seen as the premier and better darts organisation. Thats also where the money is to be won, and therefore the BDO being seen as the 'feeder' to the PDC.

  • remember phill taylor won 2 bdo titles he left the bdo becuase he knew there better things for him in the pdc and other player like bristow,jocky wilson etc crosses over,bdo is old fashioned and is a dying darts organisation.

  • it all boils down to one thing

    MONEY

    This years PDC World Champion gets &200,000

    This years BDO World Champion gets &60,000

  • NO HE GETS £100,000. BDO makes darts players, PDC steals them. With BDO you dont know who is going to win the world championship with PDC its pretty much always taylor. Boring I say BDO has the history PDC is just for the players who are greedy for money.

  • The BDO is now only acting as a feeder to the PDC, just look at all the players making the transition

  • yep look at the four semi finalists. 3 former bdo world champions and a former bdo runner up.

  • Darts in the 70s and early 80s was the golden age!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • darts was getting devoid of real personalities even before the split

  • how ironic the man who destroyed darts in the late 80's-mid 90's with snooker is now destroying snooker with darts.good auld barry hearn

  • the man who destroyed darts is the bitter and twisted Ollie Croft. The man is such a self-centred, self-important, ignorant idiot that he couldn't see and still can't see just how much he's held the game back. The BDO is still stuck in the dark ages with 2 TV tournaments each year while the PDC continues to grow and improve. There are quality players in the BDO but eventually they all make the switch to the PDC, who have embraced the modern world and moved on with it rather than hiding from it.

  • "My Mum and Dad were posh and didn't get sky... so I didn't get to bloody watch it" Legend

  • Quote Olly Croft "Sods you!" to hell with the BDO up the PDC.

  • All these guys that are saying the BDO players are rubbish are taking out their backsides. There's plenty of fantastic players on the BDO Circuit that could consistently win matches against PDC players. Ask yourselves this, where did nearly all of the PDC players come from? Taylor, Barney, King, Wade, Thornton, Anderson, Priestley, Part - ALL played in the BDO. It's simple, the PDC exists because of the BDO. I play on the BDO Circuit, and i think it's brilliant.

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  • men against boys

  • well I still think there will be plenty of good players who play in the BDO. The super league and county system is still BDO run and thats where every single englishman on TV has played at some point so they will still come through the BDO at some stage. Also - the top 3 in the world aside - they can all beat each other, regardless of which body they play for. In terms of popularity and entertainment I would agree though. You can't skip legs and sets and expect people to enjoy it as much.

  • no its not,the players on the bdo are rubbish compared to sky wolfie wouldnt join the pdc as he knows taylor barney and wade would thrash him.

  • Now Whitlock has gone, along with Anderson, Webster who recently joined, is there anyone left who thinks that the BDO should still carry on and claim to have the worlds best darts players? It would be embarrasing if they did!

  • thanks very much for putting this up, very interesting.

  • the pdc isnt that far ahead of the bdo...yes there is phil taylor who is streets ahead and a couple others but most of them average about 90...only taylor can average 110 etc barney about 100 usually. and wade the same the rest are all on the night players as is the bdo.

  • I agree, lots of people think that everyone the PDC could win the BDO title. Most of the players who have made the swtich have done well. I've always thought Klassen and van Gerwen were overrated. My top 10: Taylor Barney BDO Wade Jenkins King BDO Anderson BDO Thornton BDO Adams BDO Lewis Lloyd / Part / Manley / Webster / Whitlock / Hankey / Mardle / Waites Outside the top 2 they can all easily beat each other. I do hate the BBC coverage though with them skipping legs / sets.
  • what a hypocrite Bobby George callin them 'pop stars' george didnt need to switch, he was/is making a fortune from exhibitions[because of his 'pop star' flash image] and unlike the other top boys didnt need to try something new in order to earn some corn. olly croft is a fcking dinosaur

  • The PDC is the king of darts,they have the best players in the world bar none,BDO players who don't switch to the PDC simply can't match the likes of Phil Taylor and Ray Barneveld

  • Its a disaster and a joke watching one championship ending PDC and the next hyping itself up as the best the BDO starting a day later, they should fix DARTS for the fans!!!

  • Well, the best players I've seen were players that played American Darts in Vegas.

    They scored 9-darters like Taylor or Barnefeld made 180, and had an average of 11-12 darts to check out.

    The level of steel darts today is not that high, and I belive if those players would go there, they woould win, but they still make more then a million a year, so they won't even consider steel darts...

  • are you talking about american style darts? Or like Americans playing british darts?

  • It's a shame, but I can't see it changing now. Non Sky Sports viewers really do lose out, just watched Taylor the living legend win his 14th title. He could win the BDO title with one eye covered up.

  • Obv PDC is the best now for the overall standard, maybe only getting that crown in the past few years when most of the best BDO players moved across, Barney, King, Klaasen etc, theres still a couple of top quality players in the BDO such as Gary Anderson and Webster but the numbers of great players in the BDO is gettin smaller and smaller.

  • not any more theres not

  • I loved this documentary. Particularly when Eric Bristow's wife put forward a reasonable and incisive explanation as to her role in the secession of the PDC from the BDO. Bristow himself then comes on and says bluntly "don't listen to 'er, she's fucking mad!" Priceless!

  • typical bobby george to olly croft ball licking ol' cunt

  • the bdo sucks!!!!!. the pdc is champions league, the bdo is 3 rd division !!

  • Lets be honest. I think THe BDO lakeside championships are better than The PDC world finals. Just my opinions. I think the 3 dart average on the whole at he lakeside last year was better than the PDC World finals.

  • Yeah and I like the BBC's darts coverage better because it's popular and the lakeside country club is a great venue for darts.

  • did u watch that shite on setanta when the world match play final was on at the same time?  the pdc tournament was packed while the bdo players were playin in front of 10 people!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • yes there is no comparison.TAYLOR AND WADE were over 15 darts only once in the whole final.WOW.

  • yeah and in 1 leg werent they both on a 9 darter

  • yes m8

  • Its a lot easier to play at the Lakeside in front of a smaller and quieter audience. Can you imagine Ted Hankey playing in the PDC?

    It takes a lot more bottle and nerve to play in front of loads of screaming and singing drunks than a quiet crowd, and that can put you off your game a bit.

    Hankey etc would be hitting pub standard averages in the PDC. I mean Hankey got pissed off with the crowd at the Lakeside and they are hardly deafening.

  • pdc is the place to be nuff said

  • "they all think their popstars" it was about taking Darts and their careers forward, frankly you only have to look at the PDC today, and the BDO today to realise that the move was wise. Or perhaps Bobby new that in that line of players he wouldnt get near the title

  • Shut up Bobby George. The only reason you didnt move was you was not good enough. FACT!

  • I picked up my first set of darts at just 2 years old, but have been a pool player from I was 5, and the 1 thing that I notice, is that Darts players are only starting to get the recognition that they all deserve.

    I've played snooker and I hate it, it's like being stuck in a library, trying not to move in case the world is gonna end or something :) lol

    Darts has everything, action, drama and it doesn't matter how good or bad a thrower you may be, darts is a sport for everyone :)

  • I agree. Darts is an underrated sport. It takes a lot of skill to throw those arrows. I've been playing for about 2 years and I love it.

  • Thank fuck the PDC was actually formed or would be stuck with that boring shite called the BDO

  • is it shite, the crowd just sit there and do nowt.

    darts is energetic and exciting

  • snooker is on a big fall it has no future ask any pro snooker player

    prize money is going down

    but darts is going massive with it being the second most watched sport on skysports

  • spot on pal

  • up the darts pal. check out my phil taylor video shows how good darts atmosphere is

  • Brissy is dead good!!!

  • i love all darts,bdo or pdc

  • i think bobby goerge didnt switch cos he new there was to much competion at the PDC, he wud rather stay in his comfort zone at the BDO instead and pretend he was the king there like that tosser olly croft

  • I Agree with that as bobby George although a good player he wasnt in the class like Leighton Rees, John Lowe, Eric bristow, Jocky Wilson as these players were a touch above Bobby George in his prime.

  • BDO suck. PDC rule. I'd do the same if i was one of them dart players.

  • Good luck with your money then.

  • to stal 72 think u very much mate for ur help i played darts for years but not in a long time and i have been watching the lake side darts and its got me in the mood so i went a got one but 4got how high it went thanks again mate i hope ronnie woods wins i have 50pounds on him

  • dose anyone no how high a dartborad should be

  • I presume you're using steel-point? Dartboard should be 5ft 8ins from centre of bullseye to the floor & the toe-line (oche) should be 7ft 9 1/4ins from the face of the board. All the best throwing straight!

  • shame bobby george didnt move to PDC tho

  • does anybody know the name of the programme this was taken from pls.

    PDC rules

  • its was a documentry called blood on the carpet, a documentry by the bbc back in 2000, the episode is from series 2 called Episode 3: Poisoned Arrows

    A clash between the old, The British Darts Organisation, and the new, The World Darts Council, in the story of one of the bitterest battles ever fought in the history of British Sport

  • what a load of crap

    get real

  • spot on buddy you can't get better than the true world championship THE BDO does it proper nothing can touch it

  • Nice, Long live Sky Sports and the PDC. Good to see ITV with the PDC this week, just a shame it was the same week as the Winmau world masters. The BDO is such a bore these days. My parents didnt have Sky either, so back in 1997 I got it in my bedroom via cable.

  • darts is a much faster,more edge of your seat kind of sport and beats the hell out of snooker,and i dont even mind snooker

  • please somebody put the full show on

  • darts has comeback over snooker now

  • I would really like to see th whole show, if anyone knows where????

  • great clip. love the tune wen hes tlkin about the crisis. clssic. well done m8

  • Oh no that was it how gay

  • Yeah, I don't get to fucking watch it either. I want to see Taylor thrashing Barneveld right now. (Well, I'd prefer to see Barneveld absolutely annihilate Phil Taylor, but I'd be happy to see any darts quite honestly). Oh well, at least the purists' choice, the BDO, will be on BBC later this week.

  • Is that the full video? I'd like to see that programme in full.

  • u very creative man. Nice clip.

  • he didn't make the clip... it came from a TV show in the UK on BBC3 it even says this in the description!

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