how atheism and evolutionism can hurt Christians and God

[kysmelmonge]

P.s this is sad :'(...

[kysmelmonge]

Christians never take into acount what if their wrong and some other religion is right,or what if no ones right. pascals wager reprsents this not how I put it but if you look it up on google you can understand it better

[donotlosefaith]

we should not be afraid to tell our friends about Jesus Christ. Jesus is our only salvation to salvation. For He is the truth, way and the life

[mastermaxmixed]

That was so very, very bad I cant even start to describe it!

[jasason10]

Fear Is always used by religion..........It's so sad, It's there last resort in this time of science and reason. Everyone who watches this video needs to ask them selfs......Do you think the punishment should fit the crime? Can you think of a crime where anyone could be tormented, burning in excruciating pain for eternity.......You can't escape it, not even death......It's forever, and the crime here is simply not believing or being convinced of the christian claims. Just think about it.

[reimondinio]

@jasason10 Do you think the punishment should fit the crime? no doubt it's a big punishment ...,i also was thinking about it .

and something that i can't understand when atheists have nde and as a result become a Christians ... it really  tells a lot

and i think that at least i would be a good person and tell here people about the salvation ...

well sorry then for religion tells the truth about what is written ...

[drfoxcourt]

@reimondinio I'm not terrorized by the message, but vulnerable children are easily scared. "Fear is the mind killer" - K Herbert. It keeps you from thinking.

Do you think it is OK to scare little children for _your_ faith?

What If I am wrong? Then for all we know we will go to Hades, We might be reincarnated. Heck we might go to be judged by God (least likely IMHO).

[reimondinio]

@drfoxcourt my opinion that a little kids would search on youtube for teletabies and not politics ...

"Do you think it is OK to scare little children for _your_ faith?" to scare them not , but to tell them, we must even if we don't believe in God

and at the church i don't see the scared children.

would you forgive yourself , IF this video ( God keep from it ) was about your beloved one ? (you thought that it was a lie ,while ,Hell was a true )

i just want you to think about it ..

[reimondinio]

@drfoxcourt the presentation wasn't about to tell you that people are getting emails from hell , but to make you think ,

for those who don't believe in Christ , but -----what if you are wrong ...."and because of you ....

i agree ..,for you it's a lie , for others evolution is a lie ,others think ....

i believe so there is hell , and i don't wish no one to get there ,

if you think that i immoral terrorize you , then sorry dear friend ...

[drfoxcourt]

What if your nose grows every time you tell a lie.

Christians wouldn't be able to go around corners.

[reimondinio]

@drfoxcourt if Christians wouldn't be able to go around corners,because their nose grows every time you tell a lie. ,

then what is waiting for a atheists ..

woy woy woy ....

[hhaugan]

What happened to positive christianity?

Jeez, this thing is like a horror movie.

And just as unreal of course...

[AggieAlum2000]

reimondinio, with all do respect, may I ask you your level of education?

[reimondinio]

@AggieAlum2000 I am professor of common sense... Man evolution is not proven ,can you show me the laboratory where mankind was created in evolutionary way ?????

No but here is the fact about...

exodus conspiracy on the Google

bible has many of these ...

I know you should do everything to protect atheism , but you know what God does to those who are misleading people ???.

[AggieAlum2000]

This video terrifies me! It terrifies me because I can't believe that people out there really believe in this sort of superstitious non-sense.

[reimondinio]

@AggieAlum2000 like or not it's real and it been foretold long ago , there is NDE's

and you should know that God is evil to evil ones,

[AggieAlum2000]

@reimondinio That belief is a fairy tale, nothing more than a myth that was created by bronze age barbarians in the desert who neither had the intellect nor the accumulated scientific knowledge to explain the world around them, save for ignorant myth. Unfortunately, their legacy, of ignorance, is still accepted by ignorant men today.

[reimondinio]

@AggieAlum2000 your theory was created by new age ignorants( atheists) ,

who has NO idea how to use real facts , and with the real fact to come to the right conclusion . nde was before "bronze age" and some evil people will stay in these evil NDE's forever , for misleading people

[AggieAlum2000]

@reimondinio Your claims of true knowledge are laughable, just as are the all the ludicrous claims of your holy scripture, a fabrication founded upon lies and fear to control the ignorant. As mankind's discovery and accumulation of knowledge turns the tide against your kind, with advancements in modern science and academia, your religion will soon become another ignorant concept discarded in history. You see, through the ages, it was never "ignorance" that was your enemy, but your ally.

[reimondinio]

@AggieAlum2000 for me is more laughable to believe that mankind is coming from dinosaurs shit then to believe that Jews have crossed the sea ,

Bible says that soon whole of you will go against us , so it's not surprising me ... .

[AggieAlum2000]

@reimondinio M.Luther on Copernicus' claim that the Earth revolves around the sun: "This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy;but sacred scripture tells us that Joshua commanded the sun to stand still, and not the earth. Who will venture to place the authority of Copernicus above that of the Holy Spirit?" Whenever Science has challenged X-ianity in the arena of truth, we have decidedly handed Religion its ass. Your assertions only solidify Christianity's claim to ignorance.

[PammyG68]

What a load of rubbish!

[willtopaint]

This is inappropriate and dangerous. Scare tactics the only thing that you guys have left?

[reimondinio]

@willtopaint what tactics you atheists have got ?

[LividImp]

Oh NOOOOOOOOOES! I got the CHAIN LETTER FROM HELL!!

So your "god" tortures people FOREVER because their friend neglected to mention their religion? That seems rather unfair (read "evil"). Do you assholes even consider what you are saying BEFORE you say it? This is as bad as those lame hell houses.

Is this all you've got? More fear mongering? Appeal to the most base human emotion because you can't make the sale without it? You really are a pathetic, sleazy lot.

[reimondinio]

@LividImp hell is real , like or not ...

and God is evil to evil ones , that's what bible say .

God would not punish you for not ability to believe that someone have walked on the water , but he will punish for believing that man kind is coming from dinosaurs shit.., ..

[LividImp]

@reimondinio

No, your video represents a "god" that sends to hell an individual for simply not being informed of Jesus. That's it! That is all this hypothetical person has done wrong. Not an act of evil, but just simple ignorance of your particular fairy tale.

And why do you even believe this? Because a BOOK told you so? Do you believe every work of fiction you read, or just the ones that threaten you with torture if you don't believe them? What's so important about believing anyway?

[reimondinio]

@LividImp. My video was made for Christians in first place , to let them think about their non believers friends .

but now this video represent also atheist evil for not letting people know about Jesus.

so this is how you can hurt us , by sending my beloved friends and brothers to hell ,yes ... God created hell , but you send them there . with your atheistic religion .that's what so important about believing...

[LividImp]

@reimondinio

I was going to try not to be directly insulting, but when you say things like "atheist religion", you leave me little choice. "A" means "without", and "theist" is one who believes in god(s). So "atheist" literally means a person without religion. Can't you see the doublethink you've engaged in here? Your religion has your head so screwed up that you can't see when you are being self contradicting. You need to understand that you are a member of a very large mind twisting CULT.

[reimondinio]

@LividImp yes you don't have a God , but what i meant by saying atheistic religion ,that you believe in your point of view , what is wrong and what is correct in the life ,

that's what i call your religion ...

we believe in our guide and beliefs (bible).

and you in your guide and beliefs .

see " two different mind twisting CULTS". .

[LividImp]

@reimondinio

No you still have this wrong. Atheism has no set of beliefs. It is only a statement announcing "I do not believe in any religion". Period. It is no different than saying "I am an American." Being an American does not tell any one about your morals or philosophy in life. All it means is you were born in America (or naturalized). We are not in competing cults, because no one tells me what to think about morality, philosophy, or death.

[reimondinio]

@LividImp, atheism is phenomena of the new age ,influenced by new discoveries ,

while Darwin was TRYING TO UNDERSTAND how man kind was created , hell cowards were already glad to BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION,

The number of the new age BELIEVERS was growing fast,

but still evolution is not proven yet , when people is gladly yelling : "i want to hell"

and BELIEVING..." one day it will be proven "

so in my point of view, it is a very very religion ....

[LividImp]

@reimondinio

Still, very wrong. Atheism does NOT equal evolution, and evolution does NOT equal atheism. All mankind were atheists before they invented religion to answer fundamental questions they were not equipped to answer. Moreover there are piles of writings of explicit atheists long before Darwin. Plus there is NOTHING in "Origin of Species" mentioning that god doesn't exist. It is totally neutral on the subject. Millions of Christians accept evolution, only the fundies don't.

[reimondinio]

@LividImp OK so what atheists say about where we are coming from ???

by the way, are you sure so "evolution does NOT equal atheism "

so then how can you prove so there is no God ????

[LividImp]

@reimondinio

Again, you are making assumptions. Atheism makes NO claims about origins. "Origin of Species" doesn't even address the origin of life, just the changing of life. The origin of life is an entirely different science called Abiogenesis, and the origin of the universe is called Cosmology. Atheists vary in their beliefs on these subjects, though Big Bang and evolution are widely accepted. Seriously, you need to educate yourself on these subjects to have a convincing argument.

[reimondinio]

@LividImp atheist without some theory ( set of beliefs) is not atheist ,but just some a indifference .

hell is real like it ,or not, and atheism or any other religion is the correct way to get there .

[LividImp]

@reimondinio

Hey, now you're starting to get it. An atheist IS indifference (of sorts). All atheism postulates is that there is no sufficient evidence for any god(s). Many atheists are content to say "I don't know" and leave it at that. Just because you don't know how the universe was created, doesn't mean you have to believe in a god.

So you are saying 4 out of 5 people of the world which is non-Christian are going to hell? That's a spiteful little religion you got going there.

[reimondinio]

@LividImp yes i know atheism is indifference about God existence , but they do care if there others believe in God and trying to mislead others '...saying 4 out of 5 people of the world which is non-Christian are going to hell?' if those 4 with their own truth, were trying their best to mislead that 1 ,and the other 4( themselves) , from salvation , without searching for truth so yes their going ...

and so that's what bible says .

[LividImp]

@reimondinio

No, atheists never cared much that other people believed in god any more than you care whether people believe Santa Claus is real. Atheists only started speaking out once theists started attacking legitimate science. Now you have awoken a sleeping tiger.

I apologize, my 4/5ths stat was wrong, it is 2 out of 3 that are non-Christian. That is still 4 billion people, which you assume will be tortured FOREVER for doing nothing more than being born in the wrong part of the world.

[reimondinio]

@LividImp to believe in Santa Claus is not necessary , but to believe in someone who even says " i will search from you your faith... " it's necessary. while you don't have any evidence, only some theory that God doesn't exists u should not mislead people from their faith... Luke (18;5-8). i don't know about other Christians , but me and my church have strong and personal evidence of God existence .

[LividImp]

@reimondinio

Yea well, the Bible also says you should KILL people collecting sticks on Sundays. (Numbers 15:32-36) So you'll have to excuse me if I have a hard time taking it seriously. Do you kill people for working on Sundays Reimondinio? You know I see A LOT of religious folks at IHOP on Sunday mornings. Apparently getting their pancakes is more important than following the instructions in the Bible. You know you are supposed to kill disobedient children too? (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

[reimondinio]

@LividImp these verses still don't prove Gods nonexistence , but if you had more a hard time taking it seriously then you should have understand so theses acts was made on purpose for old testament followers , to be afraid of disobedience . but Jesus himself would not act this way Jn 8 :10 -11.

more over, if Bible says to kill for collecting ... so then think what is waiting for you , for misleading people from their savior ... dear friend please don't talk spontaneous , Mt 12,36

[LividImp]

@reimondinio

You don't get to regurgitate the Bible, and then expect me not to do the same. If that is what you mean by "don't talk spontaneous." The truth is you don't value all parts of the Bible, you cherry pick the parts you want follow and discard the rest. Clearly you've never even read the whole thing; 95% of Christians haven't.  If you were serious about your faith, you'd know the Bible backwards and forwards. So if you don't want this debate to turn to the Bible, stop quoting it.

[reimondinio]

You should start to read the bible , from genesis and till revelation ,because you just showed to me,

so there is no atheists , but some ignorant people , with analogical excuses .. 1..reading bible , 95 % ... correct , there use to be a days when only a pope had a bible , , but people still were getting saved ( Luke 23 ;39-43 what do you think they were spiritually educated or regurgitating the Bible???NO they weren't ) Jesus says : Mathew 7;12 thats what u need 2 do .. .

[reimondinio]

@LividImp "You don't get to regurgitate the Bible, and then expect me not to" wait up , this would be your excuse for misleading people .

well try to say the same to the police as excuse on your crime ... they would let you free ....

[reimondinio]

@LividImp@ and even 4 ,3 of 5 evil people going there ...Mathew ;7 13-14., and this is not evidence that God doesn't exists ,

first of all you should care for yourself to not get there , because you don't know Him and everybody has a chance to get salvation,

may be those who never heard of Him will not get a punishment , but you ,so you knew and so was trying your best to reject salvation ,would get what you deserved ...

[ColdSHeep]

Fear mongering, is this the only response you can come up with for the video 'Hello Angry Christians'? You are only proving Pat right by showing that you revel in the thought of people buring in agony for eternity, you are sick.

[jimmyreed112]

your psychological warfare sickens me. besides i highly doubt that if your butt is being skewered in hell that you would have time to write a letter.

[executionerofgod]

@reimondinio no one feels heaven or hell. their hallucinations are products of their minds. millions of ppl around the world have had these hallucinations and the hallucinations themselves are individually experienced and interpreted. a person hindu may think they saw vishnu or kali. this is not proof of anything, proof of an afterlife would have to come from someone who is dead,a spirit of the dead or something of that nature. proof of an afterlife cannot come from a person who is not dead.

[executionerofgod]

@executionerofgod when a person has no vital signs that does not mean they are dead. thats why doctors try to revive ppl with no vital signs. some wake up and some do not. those that begin to decay are dead

[reimondinio]

@executionerofgod ,i agree with you even Jesus said to Jews , i will not judge you , Moses will be your judge , for Jesus had come not to judge but to die for our sins , that's mean you don't need to read the bible to be good , but you need to read the bible to find salvation,

" products of their minds " yeah they saw, but i didn't hear yet a Muslim that saw there 72 virgins , maybe you did ???

[executionerofgod]

@reimondinio you didnt hear of a muslim or a hindu seeing something unbelieveable? thats what their faiths are based on. yes i heard of it. i sent you a video debunking nde. you will watch it and attempt to deny the truth but the truth is the truth. if you have no objectivity , youre likely to believe anything, as long as its linked to your favorite god.

[reimondinio]

" hearing and seeing thing is just auditory and visual hallucination" "no one feels heaven or hell."

Dear friend first if you watch or read nde testimonies , all of them quote so your 5 senses is stronger then usual .

and there is many differences between hallucination and and nde

like :

no drug can make you see yourself from outside , like in game GTA San Andreas. and for this phenomena you have to have your brain with you .

hallucinations are only visual, without other scenes.

[reimondinio]

@executionerofgod "are products of their minds"

dear friend i heard that Muslims had a nde , but i never had hear that they saw their 72 virgins . (product?)

Jews don't believe that Jew goes to hell , but guess what ...(product?)

more over ,there never head been a testimony that nde didn't have nothing in common with religion (product?). i mean even you have atheists quotes about hell ,

[executionerofgod]

@reimondinio that standard for truth has never been "what you've heard" and it still is not what you've heard. so thats not relevant. i thought we ended this conversation yesterday. i'll say goodbye to you now.

[executionerofgod]

what a load of fear mongering bullshit. hell is relevant to christians since they have been convinced it actually exists. the dead dont write letters.

[reimondinio]

@executionerofgod " the dead don't write letters"- try "ouija board? " or at least search on You tube , to find out if there is any spirits . but my advise better do not ...

[executionerofgod]

@reimondinio you should try critical thinking. dont accept every silly superstitious assertion that you come across. be objective and challenge claims such as this to determine their truth value. when you can prove the existence or occurence of anything supernatural. let me know. if you can do this at will and in public. there's a million dollar check waiting for you. if you cannot , which i already suspect, you will be exposed as a liar and charlatan. we'll be waiting

[svengalie]

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[SashasVoice]

I fail to see how this has anything to do with Atheism or evolutionism, it seems to have more to do with not converting someone which...pretty much places the blame squarely on the hypothetical christian kid. :/ it's neat, but still superstitious at the core. If hell is a real place, then at least the good music will be there.

[reimondinio]

dear @SashasVoice do you know what is NDE ????

[executionerofgod]

@reimondinio i know what nde is and i know it has nothing to do with an afterlife. remember, the dead tell no tales. and the living are not dead, ask a corpse about death and hell and spirits and eternal torture. see what he says. sillly christian mythology doesnt eve make sense to christians.

[reimondinio]

Dear @executionerofgod . i see that you have absolutely no idea about N,D,E .

science agree to N,D,E and trying to find answers to that phenomena. but of course you know better then they do, no doubt .

but any way the purpose of this video ,my dear friend was ,

not to make you a religious fanatic ,but to get you out of this terrible place .

[executionerofgod]

@reimondinio if thats what you see, its no wonder you believe the nonsense you do. i know that nde occurs when the brain is deprived of oxygen and that nds, have nothing to do with an afterlife, theyre simply halucinations experienced as a result of lack of oxygen , and few other traumas. they have been reproduced in centrifuges, without injury to test subjects. recounting events in a room you were unconcious in , is not supernatural. its quite common even in ordinary households

[reimondinio]

@executionerofgod on nde millions of people could hear , them surrounding people and see the body from the out side ,(because of oxygen? lol ) more over they could even feel heaven and hell (oxygen) ,than they woke up in morgue ,and then each of them as one ,told about the tunnel and light heaven, or hell .

well i think even if you will give people LSD, they will never see same things ,and LSD has stronger effect then oxygen.

i wish you was correct ...

[executionerofgod]

@reimondinio hearing and seeing thing is just auditory and visual hallucination. no surprise there. remeber you havent actually experienced any of these things, youre interpreting what you believed others have experienced and your going for the most illogical explanation, not the most logical. i already told you that ndes can be induced artificially without injury or risk of death, so maybe you should debunk that before we continue

[reimondinio]

Dear @executionerofgod it's your choice to believe in what people tell you , i brought you a facts about my video , you don't like to believe nor what people say ,nor what science say , more over the hearing and seeing you call " hallucination."

so then my friend, you are absolutely correct about finishing this debate

[executionerofgod]

@reimondinio fits not what ppl say. thats what you have, second and third hand accounts. i have science. there is a difference. take care

[RaverMunky]

@reimondinio Wait - you believe that God doesn't care if you're a good or bad person, only that you say some words about Jesus? So a good person who lives their life helping others goes to hell because they didn't get baptised?

[reimondinio]

@RaverMunky God does care , if you are a good person , your good works is a fruits of Holy Spirit , but for people eyes , you don't suppose to read bible , because you know the law " love your neighbor as you love yourself "

but only good works is not enough , you suppose to be perfect . as Adam and Eva ones .

you cannot be perfect , but only Jesus can wash your sins away .

Jesus is not the judge , but he is the last word in there